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royal killer
Amarr Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2008.10.23 16:45:00 -
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Well, for those that don't know this yet, here's a dev blog about the Orca, and its attributes, including a raelly cool picture of it tbh the ship looks AWSUM
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Tolsimir Wolfblood
X.S. Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.23 16:55:00 -
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Looks sweet. Now were is my sub capitol dread and carrier at?
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Zak'eni
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:00:00 -
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This is awesome. Miniature stargate capable freighter for moving ships about, command bonuses, tractor beams.
Now it just needs to be 5/5/5, 375m3 bay/125 bandwith, more PG and CPU so you can PVP in it.
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CopyCatz
Caldari Brewery Research Ltd Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:01:00 -
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And no need to go to outer ring for the bpo :)
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InsanlyEvlPerson
Gallente Night-Stalkers
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tolsimir Wolfblood Looks sweet. Now were is my sub capitol dread and carrier at?
with 1 capitol gun/torp for the dread and maybe 3-5 fighters on the carrier? sounds wimpy. give me a mini carrier with a ship maininence bay, strong tank (marauder level maybe?), and i guess a couple fighters and i'll be happy. ---------------------------------------------
I may be a bit over Zealot, but i cant help myself, its the best investment i ever made! |

Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:07:00 -
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I was going to ask if it's going to be jump drive capable like a Jump Freighter, but given the lack of Jump Drive Operations in the skill requirements, I'm guessing not.
Either way, it looks like the Orca will be filling the gap between industrials/freighters/Rorqs very nicely. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |

Tolsimir Wolfblood
X.S. Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:11:00 -
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I say make a tech two tier 3 b/s. Make it have 3 weapons slots like a dread, throw on a seige mod and have fun....lol. If it sounds like i pulled it out of my a**, well i did.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:19:00 -
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So we have a new favorite way to afk mine in high sec?
Put one laser per roid, wait for roids to pop or for 90k m3 of cargo space to fill. Repeat.
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Zak'eni
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Crackzilla
So we have a new favorite way to afk mine in high sec?
Put one laser per roid, wait for roids to pop or for 90k m3 of cargo space to fill. Repeat.
No turret slots.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:20:00 -
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i have no interest in usng it for any reason ever except for the fact that it is gorgeous and i want one __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Dyaven
Interstellar Mining and Research
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:43:00 -
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While it's nice and all... will this be the end of can flipping?  |

Crackzilla
The Shadow Order
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zak'eni
No turret slots.
Whoops. Good catch.
Originally by: Dyaven will this be the end of can flipping? 
Considering can flipping is a fairly silly mechanic now? Good riddance.
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Karanth
Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.10.23 18:14:00 -
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Looks good.
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LordTiberius
Ethical Dilemma
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Posted - 2008.10.23 18:21:00 -
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bleh:P |

Benco97
Gallente The Star League
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Posted - 2008.10.23 18:46:00 -
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Hmm, I'm a little underwhelmed to be honest. Still, I can see it'll have it's uses.
However, how about something for the little guy next time CCP? You can say "But this IS for the little guy" as much as you like but it's 1.4billion isk AT LEAST (Significantly more than that no doubt), those little two-three man corps can't afford this easily. Still, I guess you're not supposed to play EVE unless you're in an alliance. I know I shouldn't rant and this IS a job well does I guess it's just annoying to see new high-end things get added with each update which cost so much, not everyone has multi billions. |

Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.10.23 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Crackzilla
Originally by: Zak'eni
No turret slots.
Whoops. Good catch.
No, but it does have a 50m^3 drone bay and 25m^3 of drone bandwidth, so if you absolutely must mine AFK in an Orca, you could do it with T2 mining drones. |

royal killer
Amarr Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2008.10.23 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97 Hmm, I'm a little underwhelmed to be honest. Still, I can see it'll have it's uses.
However, how about something for the little guy next time CCP? You can say "But this IS for the little guy" as much as you like but it's 1.4billion isk AT LEAST (Significantly more than that no doubt), those little two-three man corps can't afford this easily. Still, I guess you're not supposed to play EVE unless you're in an alliance. I know I shouldn't rant and this IS a job well does I guess it's just annoying to see new high-end things get added with each update which cost so much, not everyone has multi billions.
I think you mean because of the bpo with it ? Tbh, I don't think they'll be buying the bpo, they'll be buying it just made, and I seriously doubt it will cost more than 600 mill (if not even less), if it goes above that, it's just stupid overpricing of greedy people. |

Elaron
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.10.23 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97 it's 1.4billion isk AT LEAST
Why would mom'n'pop industrial shops want to buy the BPO? If it's being bought to use, then 450M - 500M is the investment required.
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Benco97
Gallente The Star League
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Posted - 2008.10.23 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Elaron
Originally by: Benco97 it's 1.4billion isk AT LEAST
Why would mom'n'pop industrial shops want to buy the BPO? If it's being bought to use, then 450M - 500M is the investment required.
You know what, you're absolutely right, I read it completely wrong and it got a bit wonky in my head. All I can say is that today is a bit of an off day for me *shrugs* For some reason I thought everyone needed a BP to own one, you'd never believe I'd been here since the beginning would you?
Still, I don't take back what I said, less high-end alliance aimed stuff please.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.

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InsanlyEvlPerson
Gallente Night-Stalkers
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Posted - 2008.10.23 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97 Hmm, I'm a little underwhelmed to be honest. Still, I can see it'll have it's uses.
However, how about something for the little guy next time CCP? You can say "But this IS for the little guy" as much as you like but it's 1.4billion isk AT LEAST (Significantly more than that no doubt), those little two-three man corps can't afford this easily. Still, I guess you're not supposed to play EVE unless you're in an alliance. I know I shouldn't rant and this IS a job well does I guess it's just annoying to see new high-end things get added with each update which cost so much, not everyone has multi billions.
agreed. honestly, i could go for a hisec carrier or something of the sort, and dont say buy a domi cuz it cant fill the support role without killing its own tank like a carrier. ---------------------------------------------
I may be a bit over Zealot, but i cant help myself, its the best investment i ever made! |

Kunming
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core
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Posted - 2008.10.23 19:11:00 -
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Dispite this being slightly off topic, I strongly agree with Benco here... All new content thats being added lately is aimed for large alliances. So unless ur part of BoB, Goons or the North this content is pretty much off limits. I feel this is against the spirit of the game.
Not all of us want to be part of the epic lag fest or we might enjoy being the underdog, trying to make a living out there while the big boys clash it out, but we are paying customers too and want to have a taste at new content just like everyone else.
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Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.10.23 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: InsanlyEvlPerson
agreed. honestly, i could go for a hisec carrier or something of the sort, and dont say buy a domi cuz it cant fill the support role without killing its own tank like a carrier.
Um, the Orca is a HiSec carrier. It's got the seperate cargo hold, corp hangar, and ship hangar like a carrier, you can refit in space at one like a carrier. It doesn't have the awesome tank, DPS, or remote reps like a carrier, but it looks like it will still be very capable given that it is essentially an overgrown industrial ship.
Originally by: Kunming Dispite this being slightly off topic, I strongly agree with Benco here... All new content thats being added lately is aimed for large alliances. So unless ur part of BoB, Goons or the North this content is pretty much off limits. I feel this is against the spirit of the game.
Not all of us want to be part of the epic lag fest or we might enjoy being the underdog, trying to make a living out there while the big boys clash it out, but we are paying customers too and want to have a taste at new content just like everyone else.
My guess would be that the Orca, once the market settles down after its initial release, would sell for as much as a Marauder or less, and you're far less likely to spend the price of the ship in modules to pimp it out. You don't only see big alliance members flying around in Marauders do you? People will have to work hard for this ship, no doubt, but it's hardly going to be only for big alliance members. |

Ensar'da
Amarr Advanced Capital Ship Designs Hephaestus Rising
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Posted - 2008.10.23 19:22:00 -
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I like this ship; i love the ability to boost my booster toon even further and corperate hanger no more jet cans; though atm i don't like the 3 high and med slots; as 3 high b used for mining gang links and with 3 meds and no multiple gang link role bonus means you will need to put command processers in the meds; leving 1 med for a tank and no highs spare for tracters as it get a bonus and be helpfull; so a couple more high and med slots I think would be a good change |

Dyaven
Interstellar Mining and Research
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Posted - 2008.10.23 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ensar'da I like this ship; i love the ability to boost my booster toon even further and corperate hanger no more jet cans; though atm i don't like the 3 high and med slots; as 3 high b used for mining gang links and with 3 meds and no multiple gang link role bonus means you will need to put command processers in the meds; leving 1 med for a tank and no highs spare for tracters as it get a bonus and be helpfull; so a couple more high and med slots I think would be a good change
Hi Slots: Tractors / Gang Links Med Slots: Command Processors Low Slots: Cargo Expanders? Ever heard of an armor tank? |

Sani Ka
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.10.23 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Sani Ka on 23/10/2008 19:25:56
Originally by: Bronson Hughes
Originally by: InsanlyEvlPerson
agreed. honestly, i could go for a hisec carrier or something of the sort, and dont say buy a domi cuz it cant fill the support role without killing its own tank like a carrier.
Um, the Orca is a HiSec RORQ. It's got the seperate cargo hold, corp hangar, and ship hangar like a Rorq, you can refit in space at one like a Rorq. It doesn't have the awesome tank, DPS, or remote reps like a carrier, but it looks like it will still be very capable given that it is essentially an overgrown industrial ship.
Originally by: Kunming Dispite this being slightly off topic, I strongly agree with Benco here... All new content thats being added lately is aimed for large alliances. So unless ur part of BoB, Goons or the North this content is pretty much off limits. I feel this is against the spirit of the game.
Not all of us want to be part of the epic lag fest or we might enjoy being the underdog, trying to make a living out there while the big boys clash it out, but we are paying customers too and want to have a taste at new content just like everyone else.
My guess would be that the Orca, once the market settles down after its initial release, would sell for as much as a Marauder or less, and you're far less likely to spend the price of the ship in modules to pimp it out. You don't only see big alliance members flying around in Marauders do you? People will have to work hard for this ship, no doubt, but it's hardly going to be only for big alliance members.
fixed it for ya |

Ensar'da
Amarr Advanced Capital Ship Designs Hephaestus Rising
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Posted - 2008.10.23 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: Ensar''da on 23/10/2008 19:36:20 It doesn't really matter IMO, if your stupid enough to get caught by wartargets while flying this (I see no reason to take this into low-sec or 0.0) then you deserve to die. Rolling Eyes
True though tank would be nice; and low sec mayb not but i can see it used in 0.0 a cheap mans rorqual, plus a 400 mill base price i can see it going 600 normal; so 600 mill ship no tank i never like i hate that prospect with freighters to
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Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.10.23 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sani Ka
fixed it for ya
Fair enough, but the qualities that many people were looking for in a HiSec Carrier were the ones that Carriers and Rorqs shared so I think my point still stands. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |

ZW Dewitt
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Posted - 2008.10.23 20:12:00 -
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Needs more mids.
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Jonna Andromedae
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Posted - 2008.10.23 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Jonna Andromedae on 23/10/2008 20:12:58 FINALLY WE HAVE A SHIP WICH CAN HAUL UNPACKAGED SHIPS IN HIGHSEC!!!! 
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Arazel Chainfire
Dissolution Of Eternity Ethikos Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.23 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jonna Andromedae Edited by: Jonna Andromedae on 23/10/2008 20:12:58 FINALLY WE HAVE A SHIP WICH CAN HAUL UNPACKAGED SHIPS IN HIGHSEC!!!! 
... you do realize that you can get that anyways by making a courier contract, right?
-Arazel |
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