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Asuka SoryuLangley	Posted - 2008.10.29 14:34:00 - [1] I was thinking about all the time lost in eve becouse of network/server issues. Yesterday i didn't play at all becouse i can only connect in the late evening and there were that network problem (this is just an example btw). So i was wondering why CCP don't give us some free time for all the time we've lost during the years? Maybe even a gift ingame would be nice. This would just mean that CCP cares about their customers and we would all be a bit more happy :) Note this is not a whine
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.10.29 14:37:00 - [2] Originally by: Asuka SoryuLangley Note this is not a whine clearly one of those words doesn't mean what i thought it meant. -- Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Sleepkevert Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.29 14:41:00 - [3] If you want something so desperately, wait for the next free expansion. Happy now? _ Add your own line!
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.10.29 14:43:00 - [4] Your Refund: 0.50 Ç Transaction Fee: 3.50 Ç You owe CCP: 3.00 Ç You're welcome. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Maria Kalista	Posted - 2008.10.29 14:44:00 - [5] because.... takes a deep breath..... you agreed upon these possibilities, like disconnects, no access to the server, lost gametime etc. before you entered the game by accepting the EULA, point 11 & 12 if I'm correct. Leaving you with 2 options: disagree with the EULA which means stop your account and delete EVE from your HD or... suck it up, like most of us do. Really. Originally by: CCP Mitnal You put a bear in your tea??? tl;dr: I'm too lazy to read the entirety of what you said, but I still want to say something.
Andrea Tesla Caldari Crazy Clone Warriors of Disaster Hereticus Aegis Communis	Posted - 2008.10.29 14:46:00 - [6] I can answer that... We lost at the very most 1 day of play... yesterday. So, what you are basically asking for is to get 1 day playtime... Ok... so how to do this... CCP could sweep through the database of subscriptions and add 1 day to all running subscriptions. See how this will effect us... 1. The continous player - The next subscription is coming one day later than expected. Still you pay for another 1 month at least. The impact is insignificant. 2. The quitter - The subscrition to the game you are quitting runs one day longer. You intended to quit anyway, so it is unlikely, that you will use that one day extra. Usually once the decision to quit is taken, the real playtime approaches zero... Again, no significant impact. 3. The undecided - Your subscription runs one day longer... you do not know, if you want to play EVE any longer or if you stop playing it... Wohoo, you get one extra day to decide it... will this one day help you in making a better devision ? Unlikely. So the significance of another day of playtime is next to null. But the potential impact on such a database query is far higher. I pesonally would rather see CCP to continue their work, do their best to keep such days rare and move on with the development of the game. I am playing since 2004... in total, there is maybe 1 week of time lost due to irregular downtimes for me. One week in 4 years ? That is like... 4$ ? Oh yeah.. I want a refund Be serious, guys. The compensation you are asking for is just for show. AT
IR Scoutar Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.10.29 14:47:00 - [7] Originally by: Maria Kalista because.... takes a deep breath..... you agreed upon these possibilities, like disconnects, no access to the server, lost gametime etc. before you entered the game by accepting the EULA, point 11 & 12 if I'm correct. Leaving you with 2 options: disagree with the EULA which means stop your account and delete EVE from your HD or... suck it up, like most of us do. Really.
Tasty Bit Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2008.10.29 14:49:00 - [8] Cos.
Joshua Calvert Caldari Safespot Industries	Posted - 2008.10.29 14:54:00 - [9] I'm sure they've given refunds in the past when the server was down for a couple of days? Or I might have mistaken that event for another game. Peace and love, Josh
Angel Lightbringer Dark Evolution Industries	Posted - 2008.10.29 14:56:00 - [10] Originally by: Asuka SoryuLangley Maybe even a gift ingame would be nice. Apotheosis? They gave this shuttle to everyone (or so?) when they hit 5 years. Time/acces is refunded/given back for services when uptime is used at 100% (e.g. hosting?) not to a service which happen to disfunction JUST when you wanted so desperately to use, and was ok the rest of the day. If the servers were unusable for.. 1-2 days, maybe they'd consider adding 1-2 days to everyone, but not for a couple of hours. Also, all those network problems did not interfere with 100% of the customers. As an example, the downtime happen at 7am for my timezone (EST5EDT). Everything was good when I got in game. Some people were asleep and woke up to play when everything was fixed. -Angel
Julius Rigel House Rigel	Posted - 2008.10.29 14:58:00 - [11] Game time refunds daily at 11:30 am. Thank you for whining. Come again. Scared of the events forum?
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.29 15:00:00 - [12] Originally by: Joshua Calvert I'm sure they've given refunds in the past when the server was down for a couple of days? Or I might have mistaken that event for another game. They did it once a few years ago when the server was up and down like a yo-yo for about four or five days. So we're not in that territory just yet. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Cambarus The Baros Syndicate Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.10.29 15:00:00 - [13] Originally by: IR Scoutar Originally by: Maria Kalista because.... takes a deep breath..... you agreed upon these possibilities, like disconnects, no access to the server, lost gametime etc. before you entered the game by accepting the EULA, point 11 & 12 if I'm correct. Leaving you with 2 options: disagree with the EULA which means stop your account and delete EVE from your HD or... suck it up, like most of us do. Really. Not to say that I agree with the OP here, but this argument irritates me every single time it's brought up. The EULA says that it's legally acceptable for CCP to do something. It does NOT mean that something being on the EULA means it shouldn't bother people. If CCP were to delete everyone's accounts, it would be perfectly acceptable according to the EULA. Would it then still be something that no one should complain about? The above quote does not take into account the third option: Disagree with the EULA, and voice this disagreement in the hopes that something gets done. Will it? Pfft ya right, but it doesn't mean that the OP's complaint is invalid because of a set of rules set out by CCP that people treat as a holy text (though it is rendered invalid by the fact that it was one freaking day, really, do you want your $0.50 that badly?) If you have a problem with something in eve you SHOULD voice your concern. Because even though many people are whiny b*tches it's a small price to pay for the few who make valid complaints that lead to real gameplay issues being fixed by CCP. If you have a problem with someone's argument refute the argument itself, don't use the fact that the whiner in question would not win a freaking court case were he to persue one because of a text file CCP puts up to cover their asses from lawsuits...
Julius Rigel House Rigel	Posted - 2008.10.29 15:02:00 - [14] Originally by: Cambarus Would it then still be something that no one should complain about? Yes. Scared of the events forum?
Cambarus The Baros Syndicate Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.10.29 15:09:00 - [15] Originally by: Julius Rigel Originally by: Cambarus Would it then still be something that no one should complain about? Yes. So if CCP decided to delete your account with no explanation given, just for kicks, you would not complain?
Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.10.29 15:13:00 - [16] Originally by: Cambarus Not to say that I agree with the OP here, but this argument irritates me every single time it's brought up. The EULA says that it's legally acceptable for CCP to do something. It does NOT mean that something being on the EULA means it shouldn't bother people. If CCP were to delete everyone's accounts, it would be perfectly acceptable according to the EULA. Would it then still be something that no one should complain about Of course it would. CCP technically owns all our characters, we pay the subscription to access our account and the servers, nothing more. Of course, if such situation were to actually happen, we'd reserve the right to cancel our subscriptions. Join New Eden Research today and never worry about queues again!
Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.10.29 15:15:00 - [17] Originally by: Cambarus Originally by: Julius Rigel Originally by: Cambarus Would it then still be something that no one should complain about? Yes. So if CCP decided to delete your account with no explanation given, just for kicks, you would not complain? Not at all, I'd just quit the game and never buy anything made by CCP again. I sure as hell wouldn't waste time complaining. Join New Eden Research today and never worry about queues again!
Asuka SoryuLangley	Posted - 2008.10.29 15:15:00 - [18] How sad are the trolls? I'm not asking to get back the day i've lost yesterday, i don't care much about that. FYI i'm not asking for anything, I was just thinking that server/network issue happened several times during my years of play, but i never got anything back. There are some nice points in the replies here btw, but the trolls are sadly everywhere. PS The Apotheosis doesn't count that is for a whole different thing :P
Maria Kalista	Posted - 2008.10.29 15:15:00 - [19] I answered the Op's question: ''Why no refund for the time lost?'' I didn't say the OP could not complain. It just won't matter in this case. Originally by: CCP Mitnal You put a bear in your tea??? tl;dr: I'm too lazy to read the entirety of what you said, but I still want to say something.
Natalie Mia	Posted - 2008.10.29 15:44:00 - [20] Originally by: Asuka SoryuLangley I was thinking about all the time lost in eve becouse of network/server issues. Yesterday i didn't play at all becouse i can only connect in the late evening and there were that network problem (this is just an example btw). So i was wondering why CCP don't give us some free time for all the time we've lost during the years? Maybe even a gift ingame would be nice. This would just mean that CCP cares about their customers and we would all be a bit more happy :) Note this is not a whine Um.... Here is a quarter call your friend and tell them. Actually here is two quarters call them both. Refund??? How much money do you think it cost to play per day? How about $.50 Yea thats right you just spent your stinking refund on the phone calls. Get over it and quit your whining. Next thing ya know you will want a refund for the time you cant play because you are sleeping.
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.29 15:53:00 - [21] Obviously you weren't going to play for the full 24 hours. So, presuming that things were down for 24 hours and you normally would have played for 4 of those hours, you're looking at 1/120th of your subscription. If you are using the year long subscription (and since it saves you $48/yr, why wouldn't you?) then you're looking at 1/120th of $10.95 -- which is $0.0912 (about 9 cents). I understand that money is tight for a lot of people and that EVE may be one of their few leisure and relaxation outlets - and perhaps they have to sacrifice a few treats every month to even afford that. But then again, it's still only 9 cents worth of time that you really lost. That's not even two soda cans worth of refund/deposits. Is it really worth freaking out about? Now, if that inconvenience was frequent and chronic over a period of time (a week, perhaps) then feel free to complain. But one day... come on.
Pesky LaRue Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.29 15:59:00 - [22] Honest to god, I often think gamers are the biggest, most pathetic bunch of whining maggots on the planet This thread is pathetic To the OP - just adding "this is not a whine" doesn't stop it from being a complete cry-baby whine ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
Anvalor Gallente Germania Inc. D0GMA	Posted - 2008.10.29 16:10:00 - [23] Yes please let CCP give us all the time back we lost. And while we are talking about fairness right now, let us also pay for the time when the downtime is over early and for the expansions each time. I meanhow can we ask for compensation while on the other side do not pay for that stuff CCP is developing. People like you should think a bit before posting. Just a friendly advice.
Cogswin Iannyen Caldari Minmatar Mafia	Posted - 2008.10.29 16:15:00 - [24] Originally by: Asuka SoryuLangley Note this is not a whine Lies.
Leviathan9 Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.10.29 16:29:00 - [25] Originally by: "EULA Point 12" # NO WARRANTIES The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game. CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software. While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures. ----------------------------
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.29 16:32:00 - [26] Originally by: Cambarus Originally by: Julius Rigel Originally by: Cambarus Would it then still be something that no one should complain about? Yes. So if CCP decided to delete your account with no explanation given, just for kicks, you would not complain? I agreed to it. So did you, you, you over there....turns to screen and points YOU. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
TimMc Gallente The Motley Crew	Posted - 2008.10.29 16:34:00 - [27] EULA covers CCP ass. They do not have to supply the game, the server, the website, your characters or anything. You pay them and if they feel nice they give you a game.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.29 16:35:00 - [28] Originally by: TimMc EULA covers CCP ass. They do not have to supply the game, the server, the website, your characters or anything. You pay them and if they feel nice they give you a game. Oh actually i think they do say that you get access to the server of the game, but not without this and that and those and his disclosures on DT etc My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Jac Straw Association of Commonwealth Enterprises FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.10.29 16:36:00 - [29] I lol'd FFS people this is a G A M E! If one day is so important I suggest you quit now!!
Julius Rigel House Rigel	Posted - 2008.10.29 16:38:00 - [30] Originally by: Jac Straw FFS people this is a G A M E! A what?! Scared of the events forum?
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.29 16:40:00 - [31] Originally by: Julius Rigel Originally by: Jac Straw FFS people this is a G A M E! A what?! A witch! A WITCH!! Get the templar! If he warps slower then a templar, then he's a witch! My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Siona Windweaver	Posted - 2008.10.29 16:40:00 - [32] Don't care about free game-time, but this may prove to be a nice PR example imo. People talk alot about games. When your friend asks about CCP and EVE, wouldn't it be cool to say things like "Its just one gaint server, so its hard to maintain it, but CCP reimburses the lost time if you lose a day to unscheduled downtimes etc". Think about this, what possibly could go wrong if they add 1 day to everyones accounts during DT? People will say "oh, 1 day free, nice" instead of "sigh, server crashed again?!". As i said, I don't care about losing time because of downtimes, it happens, but CCP has a nice opportunity to make a positive PR stunt for a change .
Sniper Wolf18 Gallente Apocalypse Ponies H E L I C O N	Posted - 2008.10.29 16:46:00 - [33] What i would like to know is what thier policy on ships lost due to the lag is, as they can hardly claim that the game wasnt broken...
zobod	Posted - 2008.10.29 16:56:00 - [34] Originally by: Siona Windweaver Don't care about free game-time, but this may prove to be a nice PR example imo. People talk alot about games. When your friend asks about CCP and EVE, wouldn't it be cool to say things like "Its just one gaint server, so its hard to maintain it, but CCP reimburses the lost time if you lose a day to unscheduled downtimes etc". Think about this, what possibly could go wrong if they add 1 day to everyones accounts during DT? People will say "oh, 1 day free, nice" instead of "sigh, server crashed again?!". As i said, I don't care about losing time because of downtimes, it happens, but CCP has a nice opportunity to make a positive PR stunt for a change . Yeah! What he/she said! The EULA may possibly cover CCP's ass from a legal point of view, but from the point of view of keeping their clientelle happy and keeping us playing, giving every subscriber one free days play would not cost CCP much and would do them a lot of good. Yeah it's only a game but this kind of thing breeds bad feelings. As a new subscriber who paid a week ago for 3 months, I'm feeling kinda peeved. One day out of 8 I've paid for so far I couldn't play! To the 1/120th month subscription comment guy. Get a life. In the UK the game was down for the whole evening. That's all my potential playing time for a day gone. I don't want 50 cents, I want a free day added onto my subscription. That's the way other services work when they fail. That's the way eve should work. Oh just a quick note to all the 'EULA covers CCP, shaddap' comments. You do not understand contract law at all. Please stop making yourself look dumb. It's ENTIRELY possible for aspects of a contract to break the law, and to thus be invalid. UK law at least clearly states than unreasonable contract clauses are not valid and CANNOT be upheld. And stop implying you read the whole EULA before signing up, that also makes you look like a liar. NO-ONE reads those things! :)
Angel Lightbringer Dark Evolution Industries	Posted - 2008.10.29 16:58:00 - [35] Originally by: Asuka SoryuLangley PS The Apotheosis doesn't count that is for a whole different thing :P Oh, I thouth it'd fill this: Originally by: Asuka SoryuLangley Maybe even a gift ingame would be nice. This would just mean that CCP cares about their customers and we would all be a bit more happy :) They were not forced to do this (and I personnaly wish the model would have been... different!) but they did and it was, I hope, appreciated. Anyhow, you see the point. Won't happen, not for a collection of minutes. -Angel
Sebea Bottomfeeders Science and Research	Posted - 2008.10.29 17:34:00 - [36] Originally by: zobod Originally by: Siona Windweaver You do not understand contract law at all. Please stop making yourself look dumb. It's ENTIRELY possible for aspects of a contract to break the law, and to thus be invalid. UK law at least clearly states than unreasonable contract clauses are not valid and CANNOT be upheld. And stop implying you read the whole EULA before signing up, that also makes you look like a liar. NO-ONE reads those things! :) Just to be clear, your saying you seem to have more knowledge than a lot of us about contract law.....and in the same breath, you say you didn't read a contract for this game that you essentially agreed to? Good man. Btw, I think alot of us actually read that, I know I read it, but hey, whatever. Also, your other point "it was all my available playing time for the day" does not validate your being reimbursed for the entire day, and if your at all familiar with law, you would know that wouldn't hold any water in court either. You were denied access for a few hours only, IF you had tried to log in after that period of difficulties your services would have been fine, and rendered as promised, meaning that if taken before a judge, you would AT MOST, be awarded a few pennies, though I doubt you'd be awarded anything at all...short of a scolding from a judge for wasting court time over said pennies. Nice try though chief
Prof Patpending Bodgit and Scarper Industrial	Posted - 2008.10.29 17:36:00 - [37] Because you named your Character after a member of the cast from an Anime. NEXT!
zobod	Posted - 2008.10.29 17:44:00 - [38] Quote: Just to be clear, your saying you seem to have more knowledge than a lot of us about contract law.....and in the same breath, you say you didn't read a contract for this game that you essentially agreed to? I didn't claim to be a lawyer or an expert on contract law. However I certainly do understand contract law better than all the people saying "it's in the eula therefore they don't have to do anything", because that is simply wrong... My laziness with regards reading EULAs doesn't make one jot of difference to that.
Azura Nester White Shadow Imperium Conviction.	Posted - 2008.10.29 18:03:00 - [39] Edited by: Azura Nester on 29/10/2008 18:04:50 Originally by: Sleepkevert If you want something so desperately, wait for the next free expansion. Happy now? this. if you have a problem with the server crashing, then go play WoW...i hear that their servers are much, much more reliable..considering EVE has over 250,000 user accounts on 1 server, i think CCP does very well @ maintaining it. p.s. can i have your stuff
zobod	Posted - 2008.10.29 18:03:00 - [40] Oh and another point, to all the people saying "Oh it's only 9 cents". Yes that's the point, it would only cost CCP 9 cents per player to reimburse us all. That's a grand total of bugger-all, plus the time to craft one SQL query to update everyone's next payment/expiry date to increment by one day. Refunding us summary: Cost: FA Benefit: a LOT of goodwill. Not refunding us summary: Cost: FA Benefit: a lot of goodwill LOST. To services like this which thrive on friends recommendations, the goodwill gained would be worth a lot more than the few thousand dollars it would cost to put this right...
Asuka SoryuLangley	Posted - 2008.10.29 18:16:00 - [41] Edited by: Asuka SoryuLangley on 29/10/2008 18:17:15 Originally by: Siona Windweaver Don't care about free game-time, but this may prove to be a nice PR example imo. People talk alot about games. When your friend asks about CCP and EVE, wouldn't it be cool to say things like "Its just one gaint server, so its hard to maintain it, but CCP reimburses the lost time if you lose a day to unscheduled downtimes etc". Think about this, what possibly could go wrong if they add 1 day to everyones accounts during DT? People will say "oh, 1 day free, nice" instead of "sigh, server crashed again?!". As i said, I don't care about losing time because of downtimes, it happens, but CCP has a nice opportunity to make a positive PR stunt for a change . That is exactly the meaning of my post, i really don't understand why people read it like a whine, i really just wanted to say that giving something to the players would be just nice, for example 20 mil isk for 1 hour lost (THAT IS JUST AN EXAMPLE, I AM NOT ASKING FOR MONEY FFS!!) I'm not crying for the time i've lost, i don't understand why people always misunderstand!
Dickens Cider Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.29 18:35:00 - [42] Originally by: Faife Originally by: Asuka SoryuLangley Note this is not a whine clearly one of those words doesn't mean what i thought it meant. INCONCEIVABLE!
Sinder Ohm Demonic Corp G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.10.29 18:37:00 - [43] Originally by: Asuka SoryuLangley I was thinking about all the time lost in eve becouse of network/server issues. Yesterday i didn't play at all becouse i can only connect in the late evening and there were that network problem (this is just an example btw). So i was wondering why CCP don't give us some free time for all the time we've lost during the years? Maybe even a gift ingame would be nice. This would just mean that CCP cares about their customers and we would all be a bit more happy :) Note this is not a whine I used the server borked time to stick my ***** inside my wife what did you do?
Artemis Rose Varion Galactic Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate	Posted - 2008.10.29 18:48:00 - [44] Unless the server bouncing on and off stopped skills from training, no refund should be given. It happens, move on with life. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.29 18:58:00 - [45] Originally by: zobod Oh and another point, to all the people saying "Oh it's only 9 cents". Yes that's the point, it would only cost CCP 9 cents per player to reimburse us all. That's a grand total of bugger-all, plus the time to craft one SQL query to update everyone's next payment/expiry date to increment by one day. So every time anyone has network problems, preventing them from playing, CCP owes them money? As pointed out before, the network outage wasn't even for an entire day and even if it was, it wasn't for everyone. So then the next complaint will be "this XYZ subset of users did not get nine pennies worth of time gifted to them even though they had an outage, though nobody else had the problem!". The irony of telling a company that they owe you something out of good-will. This is the most inane thread ever.
Natalie Mia	Posted - 2008.10.29 21:18:00 - [46] Originally by: Prof Patpending Because you named your Character after a member of the cast from an Anime. NEXT! Exactly!! And if memory serves correctly Asuka went crazy the first time she lost a fight in her precious Unit 02, and was mind r@ped by one of the Angels. Being saved by the one she hated the most didnt help her either. Maybe the OP got beaten and mind r@ped and is now going insane and cant help herself. Yup that about sounds right. Nat And Yes I like the NGE series.
Tom Perrish Mystic Lion Hearts Sev3rance	Posted - 2008.10.29 21:26:00 - [47] Originally by: Asuka SoryuLangley I was thinking about all the time lost in eve becouse of network/server issues. Yesterday i didn't play at all becouse i can only connect in the late evening and there were that network problem (this is just an example btw). So i was wondering why CCP don't give us some free time for all the time we've lost during the years? Maybe even a gift ingame would be nice. This would just mean that CCP cares about their customers and we would all be a bit more happy :) Note this is not a whine i want my minute refunded from you reading this whine, pls send me the cent via pay pal. thx
xhardxcorex	Posted - 2008.10.29 21:27:00 - [48] Edited by: xhardxcorex on 29/10/2008 21:28:10 Great thread. Seriously awesome. My completely ridiculous and unapologetically sarcastic contribution: This game has how many subscribers? ONE of them has to be a lawyer (in fact, I used to know one, but he doesn't play anymore). I say we all pitch in ISK and hire him to sue for our 9 cents. Power to the people! Saying "this is not a whine" is equivalent to saying "I'm not racist but..."
Ficti0n Heavens Gate Consortium	Posted - 2008.10.29 21:36:00 - [49] Double skill time training would be nice :) :)
Julius Rigel House Rigel	Posted - 2008.10.29 21:41:00 - [50] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Julius Rigel Originally by: Jac Straw FFS people this is a G A M E! A what?! A witch! A WITCH!! Get the templar! If he warps slower then a templar, then he's a witch! Get a Nyx! If he can't tank the Nyx, then he's a witch! Scared of the events forum?
Darknesss D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.29 21:49:00 - [51] Edited by: Darknesss on 29/10/2008 21:50:04 I for one would like my 13.5 pence back for time lost! (note i multiplied the 9 cents by 1.5 roughly for US dollar value). Join me in bringing down these evil robbing s****known as CCP! Down with CCP, Down with the system! I also demand the time that this took me to type be refunded, i roughly calculate that as something below a penny. I would also like back payments on all other unplanned downtimes. If my terms are not met by noon, i shall deactivate all my accounts!!!
Asuka SoryuLangley	Posted - 2008.10.29 21:57:00 - [52] Edited by: Asuka SoryuLangley on 29/10/2008 22:03:39 Going insane? Crying? Get a life? Are you guys stupids or what? That was a very clear thought, made with no anger and without pretending anything! Why can't you understand it ffs? Why? I said: hey it would be nice! I didn't say "OMFG GIVE ME MY TIME BACK" And fyi i've lost nothing and (always fyi) when i saw the network problem yesterday "going do something in RL" is exactly what i did, i don't need advice from you pathetic trolls! What makes me crazy is people like you, i don't know if you just like to flame or are so stupid for real. Maybe YOU are the reason why CCP don't care about these kind of things... well... they are right, you deserves only kicks in your teeth. I ask for a thread lock for troll and flame evidence (and too much human stupidity of course).
Willow Whisp Sadist Faction	Posted - 2008.10.29 22:00:00 - [53] How about this... CCP Agrees to refund you for every minute of every day that you have lost due to extended downtimes or crashes, if you agree to pay CCP for every minute of every day that they are early coming back from downtime. -- this is my sig.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.29 22:12:00 - [54] This thread's existence and subsequent infiltration and infection by trolls pleases me greatly You have done well, my minions _____________________ The unofficial faceless Achura alt of EVE Online
zobod	Posted - 2008.10.29 22:12:00 - [55] Originally by: Qordel Originally by: zobod Oh and another point, to all the people saying "Oh it's only 9 cents". Yes that's the point, it would only cost CCP 9 cents per player to reimburse us all. That's a grand total of bugger-all, plus the time to craft one SQL query to update everyone's next payment/expiry date to increment by one day. So every time anyone has network problems, preventing them from playing, CCP owes them money? As pointed out before, the network outage wasn't even for an entire day and even if it was, it wasn't for everyone. So then the next complaint will be "this XYZ subset of users did not get nine pennies worth of time gifted to them even though they had an outage, though nobody else had the problem!". The irony of telling a company that they owe you something out of good-will. This is the most inane thread ever. No don't make stuff up. I never said that at all. Clearly if you have network problems then that's your problem or your ISPs, take it up with them.. CCP have stated this was a problem with their network. Furthermore I've not told them they owe me out of good-will. I'd like to see a good will gesture because in this day and age companies live or die on word of mouth and reputation. I like this game and I'd like to see it continue. I think it likely the long term cost of not doing this outweighs the cost of giving us the day! :)
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.10.29 22:15:00 - [56] Why no refund? Because CCP don't need to give you one. Seriously, they are under neither a contractual nor a moral obligation to reimburse you for play time you in theory "lost". After all, it's not like you couldn't go do something else. - Captain Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Rebnott Valeri	Posted - 2008.10.29 22:19:00 - [57] Lost a command ship yesterday due to lag/disco's (well, I shouldn't got out of station ofc). Today I got my ship back. CCP is good for you, me, everybody!
Pesky LaRue Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.29 22:27:00 - [58] Originally by: Asuka SoryuLangley Edited by: Asuka SoryuLangley on 29/10/2008 22:03:39 Going insane? Crying? Get a life? Are you guys stupids or what? That was a very clear thought, made with no anger and without pretending anything! Why can't you understand it ffs? Why? I said: hey it would be nice! I didn't say "OMFG GIVE ME MY TIME BACK" And fyi i've lost nothing and (always fyi) when i saw the network problem yesterday "going do something in RL" is exactly what i did, i don't need advice from you pathetic trolls! What makes me crazy is people like you, i don't know if you just like to flame or are so stupid for real. Maybe YOU are the reason why CCP don't care about these kind of things... well... they are right, you deserves only kicks in your teeth. I ask for a thread lock for troll and flame evidence (and too much human stupidity of course). is this some form of high-level irony that I just don't get? you make a ridiculous, ill-conceived and somewhat immature (in a consumer sense) post and then, not only do you wonder why no one agrees, you actually insult the people that took time out of their day to explain WHY you're a cretin? boy, talk about being an ingrate... ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++ ++
Siberys Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.29 22:36:00 - [59] New question: When will CCP inplement fees for stupidity on the forums? __________________________________________ This be my sig.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.29 22:41:00 - [60] Originally by: Siberys New question: When will CCP inplement fees for stupidity on the forums? Tomorrow, and hopefully they'll send me a 10% cut I'll be a billionaire, and Oveur will get to wipe with 100-dollar bills like the CEO of Blizzard _____________________ The unofficial faceless Achura alt of EVE Online
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.29 23:21:00 - [61] Originally by: zobod Edited by: zobod on 29/10/2008 17:48:56 Quote: Just to be clear, your saying you seem to have more knowledge than a lot of us about contract law.....and in the same breath, you say you didn't read a contract for this game that you essentially agreed to? I didn't claim to be a lawyer or an expert on contract law. However I certainly do understand contract law better than all the people saying "it's in the eula therefore they don't have to do anything", because that is simply wrong... My laziness with regards reading EULAs doesn't make one jot of difference to that. Do you actually dispute my point about UK law overriding unreasonable clauses in contracts? Its correct...you having not the EULA makes it kinda fecking hard to say that their is a unresonable cause in the contract...you still lose ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.29 23:27:00 - [62] Originally by: Cambarus Originally by: Julius Rigel Originally by: Cambarus Would it then still be something that no one should complain about? Yes. So if CCP decided to delete your account with no explanation given, just for kicks, you would not complain? He couldnt since he could no longer post on the forums -----
Jake Silence	Posted - 2008.10.30 00:32:00 - [63] Originally by: zobod Yeah it's only a game but this kind of thing breeds bad feelings. As a new subscriber who paid a week ago for 3 months, I'm feeling kinda peeved. One day out of 8 I've paid for so far I couldn't play! To the 1/120th month subscription comment guy. Get a life. In the UK the game was down for the whole evening. That's all my potential playing time for a day gone. I don't want 50 cents, I want a free day added onto my subscription. That's the way other services work when they fail. That's the way eve should work. As a nearly 3 year subscriber to EVE, I am upset that the network problems happened while I was at work and couldn't play anyway, so I demand that future problems be extended to ruin my playtime as well.

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