I think new space would be nice...but not needed. If new space is introduced it should NOT be like nullsec or lowsec at all. Something entirely new and different. Uncontrolled space, no gates, no sov, maybe a new module that acts as a way to get to each system. Without the module you can't go to those systems at all since they have no gates. Going from system to system will put you in a random location within the new system instead of always appearing at a static gate.

Some new nullsec for sov couldn't hurt either I guess...

No, its sometimes hard to find a figth the way it is.

More people in the same space = more conflict.

No, its sometimes hard to find a figth the way it is.

More people in the same space = more conflict.

I've played EVE since 2003/2004 on various chars.

One thing that strikes me about EVE anno 2012, is the competition for space.

I belive its gotten to a point, were CCP needs to adress the need for more space in eve.
every place you go, you'll find cramped and filled.
NO I DO NOT MEAN HIGH SEC! let them burn in their jita/amarr/rens hell......

im talking about low sec and null sec.

I think the game could be more rewarding for many players, if CCP added more low sec clusters o every empire, and added some more null sec.


dunno what ppl's opionions is on this, but i guess the usual troll will have a blast he eh....

how ever i am curious as to why CCP hasnt allready expandede EVE universe further...


I remember wen we were only 10k players on at random 23/7 now its more like 45k 23/7

in my opinion eve started to feel crowded wen it started hitting the 35k+ range of online.....

am i alone in this weiv?

This.

What does need changing is the way 0.0 model currently works. Massive alliance takes ton of space. Rents it to the underdogs and smaller alliances. Massive alliance gets richer, takes more space... until fail cascade. Then rinse and repeat.

There should be a way for smaller corps and alliances to take 0,0 space without having to be pets or renters, and hold it reasonably against a much larger alliance.

My thinking is, the more space you take - the harder it is to keep it, and the less you have, the easier it is to keep it. How that is done, is another matter!

I think new space would be nice...but not needed. If new space is introduced it should NOT be like nullsec or lowsec at all. Something entirely new and different. Uncontrolled space, no gates, no sov, maybe a new module that acts as a way to get to each system. Without the module you can't go to those systems at all since they have no gates. Going from system to system will put you in a random location within the new system instead of always appearing at a static gate.

Some new nullsec for sov couldn't hurt either I guess...

The Galaxy isn't too small, it's just far to easy to travel large distances (also increasing the blobbing issue).

Because players are concentrated ONLY in a few systems.

This is the real problem, but to solve this problem you need to think and search all the symptoms leading to this illness.

Because players are concentrated ONLY in a few systems.

This is the real problem, but to solve this problem you need to think and search all the symptoms leading to this illness.

NO I DO NOT MEAN HIGH SEC! let them burn in their jita/amarr/rens hell......

im talking about low sec and null sec.

And why is that? Because I can be anywhere in empire and still go shopping in Jita and back, in half an hour.

High sec is for new players so if it's easier and boring it's ok. If you are still there and play for more than one year then you are missing so many things in Eve I'm almost sad for you.

Once again, why Jita and some other high sec trade hubs are so populated? -because it's easy, and it's not by making high sec pvp easier that will change whatsoever.

Is by immediately cutting by 50% the number of high sec industry slots and make those at least 500% more expensive.

Is by increasing significantly trading fees in high sec for over 500% and make sort no skill makes you immune to it ^^

Is by decreasing significantly the number of sale/buy orders you can use in high sec, reduce their time availability.

Just this would make null sec a lot more interesting.

High sec is for new players so if it's easier and boring it's ok. If you are still there and play for more than one year then you are missing so many things in Eve I'm almost sad for you.

Once again, why Jita and some other high sec trade hubs are so populated? -because it's easy, and it's not by making high sec pvp easier that will change whatsoever.

Is by immediately cutting by 50% the number of high sec industry slots and make those at least 500% more expensive.

Is by increasing significantly trading fees in high sec for over 500% and make sort no skill makes you immune to it ^^

Is by decreasing significantly the number of sale/buy orders you can use in high sec, reduce their time availability.

Just this would make null sec a lot more interesting.

Not really. Even if you need nerf the hell out of high sec indy, it would just make things 10x worse. Since 0.0s industrial system is so flawed it can't support regular production. Add to the fact that the corporation management system is terrible which makes doing any large scale production in a large corporation a nightmare. Also with the fact that ANYONE can access 0.0 SOV markets even if they don't have docking rights. Which means people can buy and sell items without even being able to dock. This makes having any sort of functional industrial and market complex in 0.0 not worth it.

Edit: That came out crappy. But too sleepy to fix it, you get the point.

Good ideas

Ive been playing EVE since 2005 and it seemed huge back then. This was of course before warp to 0, jump bridges, titan bridges and cynos were in game so traveling took a lot more time so people didnt often travel from one side of eve to the other like today. With cyno chains and jump bridges etc certain people can get almost anywhere in eve in 30-40 mins and this is what i believe is the major problem in todays game, the projection of force for certain people is too easy.

Moving from north to south or east to west isnt a problem for any one with a bit of organisation. I remember when wars were fought people used to have to deploy to staging systems to attack others, today people can attack other alliances from 4 regions and way and be back home before tea, this takes away small localized conflicts and markets. Certain alliances hold space 5 regions apart, theres no downside to traveling 5 regions away from your home to help allies because you can be back in your own space in 40mins to defend it if anyone attacks your space.

If it was harder to travel around so easily EVE would seem so much bigger again, smaller conflicts would brake out, other market hubs would appear besides just jita and i think the game would be much more fun but people are too used to having traveling so easy that it would never happen.

There is such an area in EVE that has no gates, no sov and is generally uncontrolled.

It's called 'Wormhole Space'

While the module is not new, a probe launcher is needed to move from system to system. Without it, you can't go anywhere.

This.

What does need changing is the way 0.0 model currently works. Massive alliance takes ton of space. Rents it to the underdogs and smaller alliances. Massive alliance gets richer, takes more space... until fail cascade. Then rinse and repeat.

There should be a way for smaller corps and alliances to take 0,0 space without having to be pets or renters, and hold it reasonably against a much larger alliance.

My thinking is, the more space you take - the harder it is to keep it, and the less you have, the easier it is to keep it. How that is done, is another matter!

Would be nice to see expanded empire, but we dont need more null space, if you look at map statistic (average piltots in last hour) you see meny 0.0 system are empty or got like 1-3 visitors per system, this mean 0.0 is empty or is to big, so we dont need expanded 0.0 space... while Empire got heavy amount of people.

This.

What does need changing is the way 0.0 model currently works. Massive alliance takes ton of space. Rents it to the underdogs and smaller alliances. Massive alliance gets richer, takes more space... until fail cascade. Then rinse and repeat.

There should be a way for smaller corps and alliances to take 0,0 space without having to be pets or renters, and hold it reasonably against a much larger alliance.

My thinking is, the more space you take - the harder it is to keep it, and the less you have, the easier it is to keep it. How that is done, is another matter!

Increasing costs come to mind, not linear but exponential. Once an alliance balances out profit / loss over sov, the expansion will come to an halt.

On the other hand, that might not be a good idea, since that wont give alliances means to expand themselves, thus leading to a stale world.

In my opinion, new space is always welcome. These sytems quantity was good when the server had 20k people online, now it feels overcrowed.

I like the to explore new stuff, like we had with whormholes, the feeling of emptyness is great and we dont have that anymore.

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Free The Mittani

No, its sometimes hard to find a figth the way it is.

EVE seems smaller, We need more space!

No.

What EVE needs is to utilize the vast stretches of space it already has.

What you are really asking for is more gates to sit on, not more space. And since an entire star system becomes crowded with six ships due to having only one or two places to go, I can see why the whine.

But think about this. What if you changed each system from a couple of gates and a station or two, to a thriving dynamic entity in itself. Allow player structures of some type everywhere. Stick random habitats in the middle of nowhere. Boost the microwarp drive to the point that pilots will use it to travel and explore the area.

With a little imagination each system could become a microcosm of the universe itself. Giving hundreds or even thousands of people something to do besides scamspam or shoot rocks and each other. Take a cue from the COSMOS systems but expand it a hundredfold.

EVE is small because 99% percent of it is warp to gate or warp to belt. No one bothers to think about all the stuff that could be put in between the two. I envision an EVE where some pilots spend their entire careers in one system because it has so much interesting and dynamic gameplay that they just don't need to go anywhere else.

Mr Epeen

Remove warp to 0, jump bridges, jump freigthers and titan portals. EVE just became huge again.

Remove warp to 0, jump bridges, jump freigthers and titan portals. EVE just became huge again.

And remove jump clones and mineral compression. Hell, remove freighters, that will kill Jita and spread highsec industry out among numerous market hubs, as products will have to be built close to where their minerals are mined.

But first nullsec industry would need to be fixed. What's that story about it taking just five minutes to use up a day's production of ammo in a 0.0 region, or something silly?

I think new space would be nice...but not needed. If new space is introduced it should NOT be like nullsec or lowsec at all. Something entirely new and different. Uncontrolled space, no gates, no sov, maybe a new module that acts as a way to get to each system. Without the module you can't go to those systems at all since they have no gates. Going from system to system will put you in a random location within the new system instead of always appearing at a static gate.

Some new nullsec for sov couldn't hurt either I guess...