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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:50:00 -
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Linky
  
I can't wait!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:50:00 -
[2]
Linky
  
I can't wait!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:55:00 -
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a Race ?
Centuria > whoot? Centuria > you stalking me? :) -- Nafri > then I a bird pooed on my head AND ON MY MEAL -- http://www.subroc.net/teddybears/
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:55:00 -
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a Race ?
Centuria > whoot? Centuria > you stalking me? :) -- Nafri > then I a bird pooed on my head AND ON MY MEAL -- http://www.subroc.net/teddybears/
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:55:00 -
[5]
Discorporation for a more profitable future!

[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:55:00 -
[6]
Discorporation for a more profitable future!

[Heterocephalus glaber]
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even
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:55:00 -
[7]
you like do the same think as you master amarr ; isnt it ?  ---------
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even
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:55:00 -
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you like do the same think as you master amarr ; isnt it ?  ---------
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:57:00 -
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omg nice!
www.dark-cartel.com |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:57:00 -
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omg nice!
www.dark-cartel.com |

Lefevre
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:58:00 -
[11]
Sounds great! 
Teddybears |

Lefevre
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:58:00 -
[12]
Sounds great! 
Teddybears |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:59:00 -
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It's a bit wierd that a race with such slow ships would choose a race for their championship event 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.21 19:59:00 -
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It's a bit wierd that a race with such slow ships would choose a race for their championship event 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:02:00 -
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they should of done a veldespar mining event with scorps!
www.dark-cartel.com |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:02:00 -
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they should of done a veldespar mining event with scorps!
www.dark-cartel.com |

Arud
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:03:00 -
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seems to be open for everyone
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:03:00 -
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seems to be open for everyone
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:03:00 -
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They're 'fast and agile', remember?

[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:03:00 -
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They're 'fast and agile', remember?

[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:04:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Arud seems to be open for everyone
ALL Caldari yes
...you have to be Caldari
www.dark-cartel.com |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:04:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Arud seems to be open for everyone
ALL Caldari yes
...you have to be Caldari
www.dark-cartel.com |

Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Daakkon
Originally by: Arud seems to be open for everyone
ALL Caldari yes
...you have to be Caldari
No you dont :)
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:05:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Daakkon
Originally by: Arud seems to be open for everyone
ALL Caldari yes
...you have to be Caldari
No you dont :)
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Minsc
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:05:00 -
[25]
Heh...me thinks that when they say No Holds Barred that if your opponents should end up a meat popsicle in space and not be able to finish the race, that is perfectly acceptable 
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Minsc
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:05:00 -
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Heh...me thinks that when they say No Holds Barred that if your opponents should end up a meat popsicle in space and not be able to finish the race, that is perfectly acceptable 
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:05:00 -
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Josh, are you going to enter the swimsuit section? -------------------------------------------- Dead
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:05:00 -
[28]
Josh, are you going to enter the swimsuit section? -------------------------------------------- Dead
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:07:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Daakkon
Originally by: Arud seems to be open for everyone
ALL Caldari yes
...you have to be Caldari
No you dont :)
thats stupid 
www.dark-cartel.com |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:07:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Daakkon
Originally by: Arud seems to be open for everyone
ALL Caldari yes
...you have to be Caldari
No you dont :)
thats stupid 
www.dark-cartel.com |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:07:00 -
[31]
It only has to be a Caldari ship, and no, I won't be entering with speedo's.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:07:00 -
[32]
It only has to be a Caldari ship, and no, I won't be entering with speedo's.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:09:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Sinist Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 20:08:56 What is stopping fleets blockading systems so noone can get by.
GM's young padawan
www.dark-cartel.com |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:09:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Sinist Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 20:08:56 What is stopping fleets blockading systems so noone can get by.
GM's young padawan
www.dark-cartel.com |

Amin
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:13:00 -
[35]
Caldari Championship! Cant wait 
Only restriction i saw was that you cant have a negative standing towards the Caldari State when the chanpionship starts. Seems like its open to all .
Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator Caldari State Citizen ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Amin
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:13:00 -
[36]
Caldari Championship! Cant wait 
Only restriction i saw was that you cant have a negative standing towards the Caldari State when the chanpionship starts. Seems like its open to all .
Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator Caldari State Citizen ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sinist
Originally by: Daakkon
Originally by: Sinist Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 20:08:56 What is stopping fleets blockading systems so noone can get by.
GM's young padawan
I doubt that. Especially when it passes by someone's territory. You cant tell them to leave for the day. GM intervention will make poeple mad. At least it would me.
If it was through empire then fine, but it says it spans most of the known universe.
  
thats what they did with the amarr championships
www.dark-cartel.com |

Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:13:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Sinist
Originally by: Daakkon
Originally by: Sinist Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 20:08:56 What is stopping fleets blockading systems so noone can get by.
GM's young padawan
I doubt that. Especially when it passes by someone's territory. You cant tell them to leave for the day. GM intervention will make poeple mad. At least it would me.
If it was through empire then fine, but it says it spans most of the known universe.
  
thats what they did with the amarr championships
www.dark-cartel.com |

Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:21:45
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:21:45
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Amin
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:18:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Sinist Yeah but the Amarr championship was in 1 system.
This will amount to whoever can come up with the biggest blob so noone can contest their blockade of race routes.
An event catered to the large alliances maybe?
It could be 150 jumps around one of the unconnected regions (e.g. Jove space), that way noone can interfere.
Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator Caldari State Citizen ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Amin
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:18:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Sinist Yeah but the Amarr championship was in 1 system.
This will amount to whoever can come up with the biggest blob so noone can contest their blockade of race routes.
An event catered to the large alliances maybe?
It could be 150 jumps around one of the unconnected regions (e.g. Jove space), that way noone can interfere.
Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator Caldari State Citizen ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:20:00 -
[43]
My agents have forgotten all about me, so I doubt i'll be racing. Might do other things to be involved though 
This is not a hijack
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:20:00 -
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My agents have forgotten all about me, so I doubt i'll be racing. Might do other things to be involved though 
This is not a hijack
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:21:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:23:54
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:23:54
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:30:00 -
[47]
If you can't get through an alliance blockade during this race, clearly you don't deserve to win it. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |

Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:30:00 -
[48]
If you can't get through an alliance blockade during this race, clearly you don't deserve to win it. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |

Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:31:00 -
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so basicly we're gonna have 800 crows/raptors (or vigils/claws/stilettos if other race ships are allowed) equipped with full overdrives and microwarpdrives+afterburners racing across 150 jumps without even looking at eachoter cause firing at someone will make you lose time and its not really worth it.
Who ever gets lucky (and doesnt CTD/lose connection) and loads fast wins the race.
What would be best would be to give out the route waypoints one by one while the race goes on. This would pretty much limit blockades.
But there wont be much fighting anyway, since everyone will be equipped for pure speed and no one will be able to get a lock on anyone before they warp/jump. Only chance is that if people set up blockades with medium mobiles + bombageddons on the route, in which case everyone will die immediatly (except the guy thats friends with the blockaders), save those who chose to race with battleships or cruisers. They would die a few seconds later.
This is all assuming that the route goes public before the race.
But no jumping to conclusions :P Its not final yet and i bet there's a catch to it all anyway.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:31:00 -
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so basicly we're gonna have 800 crows/raptors (or vigils/claws/stilettos if other race ships are allowed) equipped with full overdrives and microwarpdrives+afterburners racing across 150 jumps without even looking at eachoter cause firing at someone will make you lose time and its not really worth it.
Who ever gets lucky (and doesnt CTD/lose connection) and loads fast wins the race.
What would be best would be to give out the route waypoints one by one while the race goes on. This would pretty much limit blockades.
But there wont be much fighting anyway, since everyone will be equipped for pure speed and no one will be able to get a lock on anyone before they warp/jump. Only chance is that if people set up blockades with medium mobiles + bombageddons on the route, in which case everyone will die immediatly (except the guy thats friends with the blockaders), save those who chose to race with battleships or cruisers. They would die a few seconds later.
This is all assuming that the route goes public before the race.
But no jumping to conclusions :P Its not final yet and i bet there's a catch to it all anyway.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:33:00 -
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There are multiple classes, viceroy, so I think it won;t ALL be frigates.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:33:00 -
[52]
There are multiple classes, viceroy, so I think it won;t ALL be frigates.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:33:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:24:03
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:33:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:24:03
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki If you can't get through an alliance blockade during this race, clearly you don't deserve to win it.
Errr since this will be annouced in advance, you can bet your ass on it that people know what time they need to be active and ready to set up a camp.
This is not a hijack
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:34:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki If you can't get through an alliance blockade during this race, clearly you don't deserve to win it.
Errr since this will be annouced in advance, you can bet your ass on it that people know what time they need to be active and ready to set up a camp.
This is not a hijack
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert There are multiple classes, viceroy, so I think it won;t ALL be frigates.
It says "All ships, modules etc." are allowed on the championship page though. And even if not, I'd prefer to mwd towards a gate with my armageddon instead of firing at the guy next to me and waiting 90 seconds to jump through.
And either way, there's still instajump bookmarks. Bye Bye race, welcome to nanofiber/warpcore and dual microwarpdrive land.
But again, its not final yet so i'm guessing they'll change a lot of things before the event starts (which is like 1 month away), no need to mega-whine about it right away. -
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:39:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert There are multiple classes, viceroy, so I think it won;t ALL be frigates.
It says "All ships, modules etc." are allowed on the championship page though. And even if not, I'd prefer to mwd towards a gate with my armageddon instead of firing at the guy next to me and waiting 90 seconds to jump through.
And either way, there's still instajump bookmarks. Bye Bye race, welcome to nanofiber/warpcore and dual microwarpdrive land.
But again, its not final yet so i'm guessing they'll change a lot of things before the event starts (which is like 1 month away), no need to mega-whine about it right away. -
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:41:00 -
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As creator of DUI Racing, I'm delighted to see that racing has finally become noticed enough that the Caldari have created a state-sponsored racing championship. Heck, I'll even join this one if Gallente are allowed!
Wonder what the 1st prize for this race will be... ---------------------
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:41:00 -
[60]
As creator of DUI Racing, I'm delighted to see that racing has finally become noticed enough that the Caldari have created a state-sponsored racing championship. Heck, I'll even join this one if Gallente are allowed!
Wonder what the 1st prize for this race will be... ---------------------
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:46:00 -
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Noooooooooooooooooo, its gonna happen while Im away  _________________ [SAK] And Proud Of It! aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? |

Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:46:00 -
[62]
Noooooooooooooooooo, its gonna happen while Im away  _________________ [SAK] And Proud Of It! aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? |

Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:49:00 -
[63]
To clarify a few things 
o) Any class of ship is permitted, fly whatever you want.
o) We haven't decided whether to pre-announce the routes yet - more on this soon.
o) The race is open to anyone with a good caldari standing, regardless of race. Only enemies of the Caldari state need not apply.
If you have any other questions.. ask away - i'll answer what I can.
---- Nebulai Vice-Admiral Events Team Interstellar Services Department
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Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:49:00 -
[64]
To clarify a few things 
o) Any class of ship is permitted, fly whatever you want.
o) We haven't decided whether to pre-announce the routes yet - more on this soon.
o) The race is open to anyone with a good caldari standing, regardless of race. Only enemies of the Caldari state need not apply.
If you have any other questions.. ask away - i'll answer what I can.
---- Nebulai Vice-Admiral Events Team Interstellar Services Department
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:50:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Sinist Maybe if there wasnt such thing as mobile warp disruptors.
No MWD or Instant Bookmark will save you.
There is such a thing as not blindly trying to fly through everything.
Go to a planet next to the gate and then warp to the gate from there.
Mobile Warp Disruptors only trap idiots. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |

Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:50:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Sinist Maybe if there wasnt such thing as mobile warp disruptors.
No MWD or Instant Bookmark will save you.
There is such a thing as not blindly trying to fly through everything.
Go to a planet next to the gate and then warp to the gate from there.
Mobile Warp Disruptors only trap idiots. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |

Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:51:00 -
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How is an event like this possible Nebulai with any corporation camping the routes with a whole bunch of medium warp disruptors and killing all but their allies.
The rest will have to travel around them? Or amass a large enough force to break the blockade?
If you can enlighten me on these points.
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:51:00 -
[68]
How is an event like this possible Nebulai with any corporation camping the routes with a whole bunch of medium warp disruptors and killing all but their allies.
The rest will have to travel around them? Or amass a large enough force to break the blockade?
If you can enlighten me on these points.
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Last Starfighter
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:52:00 -
[69]
PITA it's standings based tbh, my agent runner aint a great pilot, nor for that matter does he have good standings with any of the relevant corps.
Spose it's something good for all those who have worked up their corp/agent standings to high levels. But tbh, there's no way I'm trawling through a bunch of agent missions on the char that I would enter into the race.
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Last Starfighter
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:52:00 -
[70]
PITA it's standings based tbh, my agent runner aint a great pilot, nor for that matter does he have good standings with any of the relevant corps.
Spose it's something good for all those who have worked up their corp/agent standings to high levels. But tbh, there's no way I'm trawling through a bunch of agent missions on the char that I would enter into the race.
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:52:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:24:21
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:52:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:24:21
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:54:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Nebulai
o) Any class of ship is permitted, fly whatever you want.
If you have any other questions.. ask away - i'll answer what I can.
In the same race?! Who in their right mind would use a battleship if that's the case?
Question: What about instajumps? Some people are sure to have them for at least a bit of the route even if it's unannounced.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.07.21 20:54:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Nebulai
o) Any class of ship is permitted, fly whatever you want.
If you have any other questions.. ask away - i'll answer what I can.
In the same race?! Who in their right mind would use a battleship if that's the case?
Question: What about instajumps? Some people are sure to have them for at least a bit of the route even if it's unannounced.
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:00:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Last Starfighter PITA it's standings based tbh, my agent runner aint a great pilot, nor for that matter does he have good standings with any of the relevant corps.
Spose it's something good for all those who have worked up their corp/agent standings to high levels. But tbh, there's no way I'm trawling through a bunch of agent missions on the char that I would enter into the race.
yuppers, even though I'd really like to enter, no way I could catch up on standings with the folk who are established agent runners. Must suck to have done thousands of missions for Ytiri :-P.
Ah well - GL to you guys with good standings - guess they're worth something finally!
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:00:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Last Starfighter PITA it's standings based tbh, my agent runner aint a great pilot, nor for that matter does he have good standings with any of the relevant corps.
Spose it's something good for all those who have worked up their corp/agent standings to high levels. But tbh, there's no way I'm trawling through a bunch of agent missions on the char that I would enter into the race.
yuppers, even though I'd really like to enter, no way I could catch up on standings with the folk who are established agent runners. Must suck to have done thousands of missions for Ytiri :-P.
Ah well - GL to you guys with good standings - guess they're worth something finally!
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:06:00 -
[77]
sticky for now 
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:06:00 -
[78]
sticky for now 
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:06:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:21:57
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:06:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:21:57
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:10:00 -
[81]
Sinist,
The racers will be setup for speed. Any campers won't be.
I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:10:00 -
[82]
Sinist,
The racers will be setup for speed. Any campers won't be.
I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Madcap Magician
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:12:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Madcap Magician on 21/07/2004 21:14:32 Edited by: Madcap Magician on 21/07/2004 21:13:41 I might be going in the wrong direction, but what if this race is about speed AND brains?
"OHNOS! A blockade!"
"Hmm, how can I get through it before my opponents do . . ."
This way, it's not all about who has the named gear, but who knows what they're doing.
But, it's all still in planning stages it seems. So let's just cool our jets and observe.
Edits: English language flows not from my fingers today.

Good times will always be remembered. Sleep well, old friends. |

Madcap Magician
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:12:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Madcap Magician on 21/07/2004 21:14:32 Edited by: Madcap Magician on 21/07/2004 21:13:41 I might be going in the wrong direction, but what if this race is about speed AND brains?
"OHNOS! A blockade!"
"Hmm, how can I get through it before my opponents do . . ."
This way, it's not all about who has the named gear, but who knows what they're doing.
But, it's all still in planning stages it seems. So let's just cool our jets and observe.
Edits: English language flows not from my fingers today.

Good times will always be remembered. Sleep well, old friends. |

Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:13:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:20:41
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:13:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:20:41
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Jade Alexander
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:14:00 -
[87]
Oh how would I love to take part in my own races' championship, but unfortunately I'm on holiday till September 5th and with the preliminary rounds starting on August 20th I pretty much doubt that I have any chance to participate. 
Never mind! I will be enjoying the Olympic Games in Athens and believe you me, I will not be even thinking of Eve-Online.
I wish good luck to all the participants and hope that everyone has a brilliant time! ________________________________
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Jade Alexander
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:14:00 -
[88]
Oh how would I love to take part in my own races' championship, but unfortunately I'm on holiday till September 5th and with the preliminary rounds starting on August 20th I pretty much doubt that I have any chance to participate. 
Never mind! I will be enjoying the Olympic Games in Athens and believe you me, I will not be even thinking of Eve-Online.
I wish good luck to all the participants and hope that everyone has a brilliant time! ________________________________
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:15:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Sinist Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 21:10:44 Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 21:09:46 Nebulai.
With all due respect here. Who are you fooling?
It was said the race would be long. It would travel pretty much everywhere. What are you going to have a race thats 5 jumps so noone can react quick enough to put up bloackades? Not gonna be fun, but it would work.
As soon as you tell the racer's where they have to go then everyone rush's to put down their blockades. Like I said unless the race is extremely short there might not be a chance to put down blockades. If it is more then 20 jumps then someone is going to get there and camp.
Put a little more forethought into your answer this time please. Im not running this race but you telling me there wont be blockades because noone knows the route yet is... LOL
Unless it is in Jove space. And where does the roleplay for that come from? That is throwing the game's integrity out the window.
You obviously cant stop them. Unless maybe you disable mobile warp disruptors for a day. And smartbombs.
Not to mention there's alot of chokepoint systems into and out of some regions.
..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:15:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Sinist Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 21:10:44 Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 21:09:46 Nebulai.
With all due respect here. Who are you fooling?
It was said the race would be long. It would travel pretty much everywhere. What are you going to have a race thats 5 jumps so noone can react quick enough to put up bloackades? Not gonna be fun, but it would work.
As soon as you tell the racer's where they have to go then everyone rush's to put down their blockades. Like I said unless the race is extremely short there might not be a chance to put down blockades. If it is more then 20 jumps then someone is going to get there and camp.
Put a little more forethought into your answer this time please. Im not running this race but you telling me there wont be blockades because noone knows the route yet is... LOL
Unless it is in Jove space. And where does the roleplay for that come from? That is throwing the game's integrity out the window.
You obviously cant stop them. Unless maybe you disable mobile warp disruptors for a day. And smartbombs.
Not to mention there's alot of chokepoint systems into and out of some regions.
..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Madcap Magician
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:16:00 -
[91]
Oh, and 10 peeps together for each team.
Again, you're limiting your ideas for the race as being purely faster than your opponent.
THINK! If you fear blockades, you'd best prepare for it. And speed is not the only way to break through a blockade . . .
Good times will always be remembered. Sleep well, old friends. |

Madcap Magician
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:16:00 -
[92]
Oh, and 10 peeps together for each team.
Again, you're limiting your ideas for the race as being purely faster than your opponent.
THINK! If you fear blockades, you'd best prepare for it. And speed is not the only way to break through a blockade . . .
Good times will always be remembered. Sleep well, old friends. |

Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:16:00 -
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:16:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:20:53
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Last Starfighter
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:19:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Gunstar Zero Must suck to have done thousands of missions for Ytiri :-P.
please dont bring that up :-S
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Last Starfighter
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:19:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Gunstar Zero Must suck to have done thousands of missions for Ytiri :-P.
please dont bring that up :-S
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:19:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:21:06
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:19:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:21:06
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:25:00 -
[99]
Sinist,
You're creating a mountain out of a molehill.
Nobody cares that blockades could be setup - it will just make things more exciting.
Nobody cares that the biggest corporotions, in your opinion anyway, have the best chance of winning - this IS a massively multi-player game, after all.
Chances are the race will be Empire-based which means to Mob. Warp. Disruptors and the route is likely to be modular and announced only at the start of each stage.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:25:00 -
[100]
Sinist,
You're creating a mountain out of a molehill.
Nobody cares that blockades could be setup - it will just make things more exciting.
Nobody cares that the biggest corporotions, in your opinion anyway, have the best chance of winning - this IS a massively multi-player game, after all.
Chances are the race will be Empire-based which means to Mob. Warp. Disruptors and the route is likely to be modular and announced only at the start of each stage.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:27:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:21:19
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:27:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:21:19
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:34:00 -
[103]
OMG! 
"We brake for nobody"
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:34:00 -
[104]
OMG! 
"We brake for nobody"
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Christopher Scott
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:47:00 -
[105]
Quote: The routes haven't been announced - this isn't feesable for any corporation at this stage - how can you plan to block something you don't know where it is? Wink
Well the handful of chokepoints into 0.0 space are camped every single day by each alliance. Unless most of the universe discludes 0.0 space, alliances just have to do their same old camping routine, but maybe with a few more smartbomb'ageddons.
Not to mention that the number of routes and chokepoints between 0.0 regions are limited and well-known by every alliance, and any blob heading in the direction of these chokepoints(event or just an enemy fleet) will be blockaded to high-heaven.
For those who live in 0.0, we know our space pretty well. We can predict what direction a blob may be moving from many jumps in advance, and where to intercept it. Whether it's a battleship fleet or a frigate gank-squad, alliances deal with these things everyday. Unless the event team is making agreements with each alliance or planning GM intervention for the race, I don't see how your championship will be any different than the normal traffic that is ganked when entering 0.0 space.
I'm not doubting the event team, I'm just bringing this to your attention so that it may not become a problem for your event in the future. 
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Christopher Scott
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:47:00 -
[106]
Quote: The routes haven't been announced - this isn't feesable for any corporation at this stage - how can you plan to block something you don't know where it is? Wink
Well the handful of chokepoints into 0.0 space are camped every single day by each alliance. Unless most of the universe discludes 0.0 space, alliances just have to do their same old camping routine, but maybe with a few more smartbomb'ageddons.
Not to mention that the number of routes and chokepoints between 0.0 regions are limited and well-known by every alliance, and any blob heading in the direction of these chokepoints(event or just an enemy fleet) will be blockaded to high-heaven.
For those who live in 0.0, we know our space pretty well. We can predict what direction a blob may be moving from many jumps in advance, and where to intercept it. Whether it's a battleship fleet or a frigate gank-squad, alliances deal with these things everyday. Unless the event team is making agreements with each alliance or planning GM intervention for the race, I don't see how your championship will be any different than the normal traffic that is ganked when entering 0.0 space.
I'm not doubting the event team, I'm just bringing this to your attention so that it may not become a problem for your event in the future. 
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Kel Kracken
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:56:00 -
[107]
Here's an idea.....
What about if you don't announce the route ever?
Instead each billboard will advise you what the next system is? The GM's only need to track the front runners and turn the board *on* when they are reaching that system or keep it a couple in front. That way if people want to waste time in trying to set-up a blockade and just hope their system is on the route they can?
Make the billboards do something useful rather than just be criminally flagged everywhere. Would also introduce other tactics as people couldn't just leave it on auto-pilot not that they would with instas anyway, teams could relay information back to those behind so that they don't have to stop to read the next destination.
Just one idea? Kel
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Kel Kracken
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:56:00 -
[108]
Here's an idea.....
What about if you don't announce the route ever?
Instead each billboard will advise you what the next system is? The GM's only need to track the front runners and turn the board *on* when they are reaching that system or keep it a couple in front. That way if people want to waste time in trying to set-up a blockade and just hope their system is on the route they can?
Make the billboards do something useful rather than just be criminally flagged everywhere. Would also introduce other tactics as people couldn't just leave it on auto-pilot not that they would with instas anyway, teams could relay information back to those behind so that they don't have to stop to read the next destination.
Just one idea? Kel
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:57:00 -
[109]
Sinist, I've organised and taken part in several races in my career as racing organiser for DUI Racing, and I can tell you now that blockades are easilly passable if you can get the speed that's possible in ships like frigates and Interceptors (preferably Interceptors). I've passed through several blockades in my Taranis, because their ships have too little time available for them to lock onto my ship and make an attack that's effective enough to stop me. Maybe you'll get hit by a smart-bomb, but that will really just reduce your shields and maybe a bit of your armour. Races like this one have been pretty successful before, what's to stop this one from being successful this time?
Besides, this is a CCP event, so they may probably change the system a little to accomodate for the race, such as having police patrols at the checkpoints or something.
Don't be a pessimist this early on in the creation of a promising race, k? ---------------------
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:57:00 -
[110]
Sinist, I've organised and taken part in several races in my career as racing organiser for DUI Racing, and I can tell you now that blockades are easilly passable if you can get the speed that's possible in ships like frigates and Interceptors (preferably Interceptors). I've passed through several blockades in my Taranis, because their ships have too little time available for them to lock onto my ship and make an attack that's effective enough to stop me. Maybe you'll get hit by a smart-bomb, but that will really just reduce your shields and maybe a bit of your armour. Races like this one have been pretty successful before, what's to stop this one from being successful this time?
Besides, this is a CCP event, so they may probably change the system a little to accomodate for the race, such as having police patrols at the checkpoints or something.
Don't be a pessimist this early on in the creation of a promising race, k? ---------------------
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:59:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:22:15
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 21:59:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:22:15
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:01:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:24:33
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:01:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:24:33
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:04:00 -
[115]
There is one question I'd like to ask though...is there gonna be a background as to how the corporations are preparing for this event and what this race will achieve for them? Would make things easier for us non-caldari to pick the corp they want to represent... ---------------------
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:04:00 -
[116]
There is one question I'd like to ask though...is there gonna be a background as to how the corporations are preparing for this event and what this race will achieve for them? Would make things easier for us non-caldari to pick the corp they want to represent... ---------------------
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:05:00 -
[117]
Edited by: Ivresse on 21/07/2004 22:07:30
Originally by: Sinist
Sorry but you cant run a good blockade with a frigate. Impossible sorry unless you had GM issued 10000000000km/s MWD's. Spare me please. The only way you can is if you do it by force. Or tanking.
Ever tried using 2 MWDs you muppet? I've ran through dozens of blockades using standard frigates with 2 MWDs. Geez, you don't really understand speed, do you? ---------------------
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:05:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Ivresse on 21/07/2004 22:07:30
Originally by: Sinist
Sorry but you cant run a good blockade with a frigate. Impossible sorry unless you had GM issued 10000000000km/s MWD's. Spare me please. The only way you can is if you do it by force. Or tanking.
Ever tried using 2 MWDs you muppet? I've ran through dozens of blockades using standard frigates with 2 MWDs. Geez, you don't really understand speed, do you? ---------------------
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:08:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 22:11:38 Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 22:10:55
Originally by: Ivresse Edited by: Ivresse on 21/07/2004 22:07:30
Originally by: Sinist
Sorry but you cant run a good blockade with a frigate. Impossible sorry unless you had GM issued 10000000000km/s MWD's. Spare me please. The only way you can is if you do it by force. Or tanking.
Ever tried using 2 MWDs you muppet? I've ran through dozens of blockades using standard frigates with 2 MWDs. Geez, you don't really understand speed, do you?
Muppet? Thats trolling. Take a break from forum.
Yeah and how fast do you go? Like maybe 10km/s - 20km/s or so.
Put down 10 or so mobile warp disruptors around gate. Thats means youw ould have to MWD about 50-100km or more depending on where the mobile warp disruptors were. Thats enought ime to get your dual MWDing ship locked, webified, smartbombed, shot, dronified.
edited by Eris Discordia
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:08:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 22:11:38 Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 22:10:55
Originally by: Ivresse Edited by: Ivresse on 21/07/2004 22:07:30
Originally by: Sinist
Sorry but you cant run a good blockade with a frigate. Impossible sorry unless you had GM issued 10000000000km/s MWD's. Spare me please. The only way you can is if you do it by force. Or tanking.
Ever tried using 2 MWDs you muppet? I've ran through dozens of blockades using standard frigates with 2 MWDs. Geez, you don't really understand speed, do you?
Muppet? Thats trolling. Take a break from forum.
Yeah and how fast do you go? Like maybe 10km/s - 20km/s or so.
Put down 10 or so mobile warp disruptors around gate. Thats means youw ould have to MWD about 50-100km or more depending on where the mobile warp disruptors were. Thats enought ime to get your dual MWDing ship locked, webified, smartbombed, shot, dronified.
edited by Eris Discordia
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Fal Aren
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:10:00 -
[121]
Fun.
Regarding blockades:
Qualifiers are gonna have 100 people in, and the mass of people are gonna be neck and neck. I'd love to see a blockade try and deal with ~ 50 people at once.
For the actual thing, its still gonna be 40 people, and the "best" availible - theyre gonna be neck and neck. Only the unlucky ones will be screwed.
So what? I dislike signatures... *hmph* |

Fal Aren
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:10:00 -
[122]
Fun.
Regarding blockades:
Qualifiers are gonna have 100 people in, and the mass of people are gonna be neck and neck. I'd love to see a blockade try and deal with ~ 50 people at once.
For the actual thing, its still gonna be 40 people, and the "best" availible - theyre gonna be neck and neck. Only the unlucky ones will be screwed.
So what? I dislike signatures... *hmph* |

Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:12:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:22:25
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:12:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:22:25
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:15:00 -
[125]
As if you haven't trolled enough of this forum with your pessimistic views as to how the race is gonna mess up and how it will be a complete disaster and that people will ruin everything... ---------------------
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:15:00 -
[126]
As if you haven't trolled enough of this forum with your pessimistic views as to how the race is gonna mess up and how it will be a complete disaster and that people will ruin everything... ---------------------
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Kel Kracken
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:22:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Kel Kracken on 21/07/2004 22:24:34
Originally by: Sinist Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 22:04:39
Nvidia bug would make the billboard idea kind of exclude alot of people.
Fair point I use nvidia drivers but always forget people have issues with them. So maybe terms are good enough standings with Caldari State AND the ability to be able to read the billboards (Joke <- hate having to say that but some people really really take other people's comments either too seriously or just start ranting).
I like the idea that as there will be so many people it's down to luck through any potential baricades. How about eve mailing the participants the route so only they new know it. Adds another dimension when they get their corp to set-up a blockade further down the line to aid their race - reminds me of dastardly & muttley in the wacky races :)
BTW to finish with it's possible to do well over 100k/s with the right tools, skills and ship :) Unfortunately I have none of them but seen the people that do.
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Kel Kracken
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:22:00 -
[128]
Edited by: Kel Kracken on 21/07/2004 22:24:34
Originally by: Sinist Edited by: Sinist on 21/07/2004 22:04:39
Nvidia bug would make the billboard idea kind of exclude alot of people.
Fair point I use nvidia drivers but always forget people have issues with them. So maybe terms are good enough standings with Caldari State AND the ability to be able to read the billboards (Joke <- hate having to say that but some people really really take other people's comments either too seriously or just start ranting).
I like the idea that as there will be so many people it's down to luck through any potential baricades. How about eve mailing the participants the route so only they new know it. Adds another dimension when they get their corp to set-up a blockade further down the line to aid their race - reminds me of dastardly & muttley in the wacky races :)
BTW to finish with it's possible to do well over 100k/s with the right tools, skills and ship :) Unfortunately I have none of them but seen the people that do.
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:31:00 -
[129]
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:31:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:22:34
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:33:00 -
[131]
My dear Sinist.
Firstly, you are just jumping around screaming, not because the event sucks or anything, but because you dont like the event team or their lead. Note that nothing in this event is certain yet, no one has announced exactly how the race will happen, where it will be, how the route will be decided etc. You're just whining because you want to make it look like its a failure even though it hasnt even happened, and the event team has stated that nothing is final yet. If you have a grudge with Nebulai or aurora, I advise you to mail [email protected] instead of whining like a 4 year old on the forums and making a total arse out of yourself. Thanks.
Secondly, nobody is going to have great big fleets of battleships running around deploying mobiles (which take 5-10 minutes to deploy alone, not to mention pack up) while a group of 10 ships are zipping around with microwarpdrives (note that mobiles take 200 to 600 m3 cargo, so the "campers" will have to keep an industrial with them if they want to deploy the "5-10" (lol) mobiles that you suggest), probably through different routes in a time-frame of 10-20 minutes after they are given the route. That being said, again, nothing is clear about the route or how it will be decided, so you're just screaming about something that hasnt even been declared yet.
Thirdly, its a multiplayer game. If you have friends who can help you out in the race, FAIR GAME. If you got buddies that can gank your competitors, GOOD FOR YOU. This isnt the amarr championship, its stated that there are no rules of engagement. Playing dirty is probably the only way to win this particular event. Its not a "fair race". If you dont have friends who can help you, TOUGH LUCK. Go play freelancer.
That being said, I suggest that you start comming up with constructive critism instead of doom-saying about stuff that hasnt even been decided yet, much less declared. -
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:33:00 -
[132]
My dear Sinist.
Firstly, you are just jumping around screaming, not because the event sucks or anything, but because you dont like the event team or their lead. Note that nothing in this event is certain yet, no one has announced exactly how the race will happen, where it will be, how the route will be decided etc. You're just whining because you want to make it look like its a failure even though it hasnt even happened, and the event team has stated that nothing is final yet. If you have a grudge with Nebulai or aurora, I advise you to mail [email protected] instead of whining like a 4 year old on the forums and making a total arse out of yourself. Thanks.
Secondly, nobody is going to have great big fleets of battleships running around deploying mobiles (which take 5-10 minutes to deploy alone, not to mention pack up) while a group of 10 ships are zipping around with microwarpdrives (note that mobiles take 200 to 600 m3 cargo, so the "campers" will have to keep an industrial with them if they want to deploy the "5-10" (lol) mobiles that you suggest), probably through different routes in a time-frame of 10-20 minutes after they are given the route. That being said, again, nothing is clear about the route or how it will be decided, so you're just screaming about something that hasnt even been declared yet.
Thirdly, its a multiplayer game. If you have friends who can help you out in the race, FAIR GAME. If you got buddies that can gank your competitors, GOOD FOR YOU. This isnt the amarr championship, its stated that there are no rules of engagement. Playing dirty is probably the only way to win this particular event. Its not a "fair race". If you dont have friends who can help you, TOUGH LUCK. Go play freelancer.
That being said, I suggest that you start comming up with constructive critism instead of doom-saying about stuff that hasnt even been decided yet, much less declared. -
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Gnauton
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:38:00 -
[133]
Sinist,
In a whopping 18 posts, you've added absolutely nothing constructive to this thread. All you've done is go "OMGWTFTHISSUX!!!!!" using alternative wording.
Do you honestly think we haven't thought about this? Do you think we won't be able to take measures to stop whatever's liable to come up during the course of the event (which, mind, is still four weeks away)? You're completely derailing this thread, you're being excessively negative in a ridiculously early stage of the proceedings, and to be frank, your intensely dogged bickering reeks of an agenda.
Stay out of this thread or you will be banned from the forums. Clear enough? |

Gnauton
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:38:00 -
[134]
Sinist,
In a whopping 18 posts, you've added absolutely nothing constructive to this thread. All you've done is go "OMGWTFTHISSUX!!!!!" using alternative wording.
Do you honestly think we haven't thought about this? Do you think we won't be able to take measures to stop whatever's liable to come up during the course of the event (which, mind, is still four weeks away)? You're completely derailing this thread, you're being excessively negative in a ridiculously early stage of the proceedings, and to be frank, your intensely dogged bickering reeks of an agenda.
Stay out of this thread or you will be banned from the forums. Clear enough? |

Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:43:00 -
[135]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:22:45
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Sinist
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:43:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Sinist on 31/07/2004 00:22:45
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:55:00 -
[137]
As you can tell we will not tolerate any trolling or unconstructive comments. You can discuss the thread but in a discussion you need to listen to others otherwise the result will be nothing.
Listen and wait for what Nebulai has to say and dont assume the worst, the people in control of this event know what they are doing since months of planning goes into organisation. And we probably dont know even half of the details,yet.
So please, stay calm and wait for more news as it arrives.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.07.21 22:55:00 -
[138]
As you can tell we will not tolerate any trolling or unconstructive comments. You can discuss the thread but in a discussion you need to listen to others otherwise the result will be nothing.
Listen and wait for what Nebulai has to say and dont assume the worst, the people in control of this event know what they are doing since months of planning goes into organisation. And we probably dont know even half of the details,yet.
So please, stay calm and wait for more news as it arrives.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Damajink
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:30:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Damajink on 21/07/2004 23:33:02 Interceptors > everything else.
That pretty much rules out anyone who doesn't have an interceptor....
Perhaps different races for different classes of ship would be good, you can have one route for tech 1 frigates, one for tech 2, one for cruisers etc - even an industrial race 
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:30:00 -
[140]
Edited by: Damajink on 21/07/2004 23:33:02 Interceptors > everything else.
That pretty much rules out anyone who doesn't have an interceptor....
Perhaps different races for different classes of ship would be good, you can have one route for tech 1 frigates, one for tech 2, one for cruisers etc - even an industrial race 
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Boffin
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:37:00 -
[141]
Quote: And viceroy we do know basically what the race is about. We know it is long. We know it encompas's most of the known universe. We know that it will be 100 people initially per race and then 10 in the final race.
Am i reading the rules incorrectly ?, It is my understanding that the final race will have 80 contenders (10 per Corp Team).
The rules do not state that there will be one individual winner so it could mean that a team effort is necessary to ensure 1 member of the team crosses the finish line first.
It would be interesting if this was the case.
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Boffin
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:37:00 -
[142]
Quote: And viceroy we do know basically what the race is about. We know it is long. We know it encompas's most of the known universe. We know that it will be 100 people initially per race and then 10 in the final race.
Am i reading the rules incorrectly ?, It is my understanding that the final race will have 80 contenders (10 per Corp Team).
The rules do not state that there will be one individual winner so it could mean that a team effort is necessary to ensure 1 member of the team crosses the finish line first.
It would be interesting if this was the case.
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:40:00 -
[143]
An absolute showstopper!
I can hardly wait (to win) !
I LOVE the fact that there are no rules or limitations, it adds to the whole "Cannonball run" feeling. I hope we run into big challenges and dangerous situations. Who would want to race 200 jumps with only the otherwise drab surroundings of cold and dark space as your companion. I demand SPICE.

Kudos to the event team as well. Putting up such a huge event is an investment of a lot of time and planning. Putting up with unprovoked harassment from the critic/s is not something you have to put up with as a volunteer, and I applaud Dev Gnauton for standing up for Nebulai.
Want to work for me? |

PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:40:00 -
[144]
An absolute showstopper!
I can hardly wait (to win) !
I LOVE the fact that there are no rules or limitations, it adds to the whole "Cannonball run" feeling. I hope we run into big challenges and dangerous situations. Who would want to race 200 jumps with only the otherwise drab surroundings of cold and dark space as your companion. I demand SPICE.

Kudos to the event team as well. Putting up such a huge event is an investment of a lot of time and planning. Putting up with unprovoked harassment from the critic/s is not something you have to put up with as a volunteer, and I applaud Dev Gnauton for standing up for Nebulai.
Want to work for me? |

Vegeta
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:43:00 -
[145]
WAAAAAAAH SINIST, shut up for once.
If you dont like the rules (wich are not completed yet), fine, dont enter. I wouldnt want you as my teamate anyway.
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:43:00 -
[146]
WAAAAAAAH SINIST, shut up for once.
If you dont like the rules (wich are not completed yet), fine, dont enter. I wouldnt want you as my teamate anyway.
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Porter Hadlend
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:59:00 -
[147]
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credendo vides - believing is seeing -=Proud member of the Fountain Alliance=- Hell Hath No Fury Like A Shattered Star! |

Porter Hadlend
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:59:00 -
[148]
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credendo vides - believing is seeing -=Proud member of the Fountain Alliance=- Hell Hath No Fury Like A Shattered Star! |

Rinji
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:59:00 -
[149]
Question: If we are gone for part of the 4-week qualifying sesion are we screwed, or do we just need to participate in any one of the 5 qualifiers? I'm going to be gone for the first week and would really really hate to miss out on this race.
Vice Admiral Rinji Morisato Logistics Division Commanding Officer of Logistics Division |

Rinji
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Posted - 2004.07.21 23:59:00 -
[150]
Question: If we are gone for part of the 4-week qualifying sesion are we screwed, or do we just need to participate in any one of the 5 qualifiers? I'm going to be gone for the first week and would really really hate to miss out on this race.
Vice Admiral Rinji Morisato Logistics Division Commanding Officer of Logistics Division |

Jade Alexander
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:07:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Rinji Question: If we are gone for part of the 4-week qualifying sesion are we screwed, or do we just need to participate in any one of the 5 qualifiers? I'm going to be gone for the first week and would really really hate to miss out on this race.
Yes, I would like to know this as well...
I will be back on September 5th. Do I stand a chance or should I just forget all about it? ________________________________
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Jade Alexander
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:07:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Rinji Question: If we are gone for part of the 4-week qualifying sesion are we screwed, or do we just need to participate in any one of the 5 qualifiers? I'm going to be gone for the first week and would really really hate to miss out on this race.
Yes, I would like to know this as well...
I will be back on September 5th. Do I stand a chance or should I just forget all about it? ________________________________
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Porter Hadlend
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:15:00 -
[153]
Figured that would happen.. fair enough..
I for one am looking forward to hearing more info on this. --------------
credendo vides - believing is seeing -=Proud member of the Fountain Alliance=- Hell Hath No Fury Like A Shattered Star! |

Porter Hadlend
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:15:00 -
[154]
Figured that would happen.. fair enough..
I for one am looking forward to hearing more info on this. --------------
credendo vides - believing is seeing -=Proud member of the Fountain Alliance=- Hell Hath No Fury Like A Shattered Star! |

Marc Vestabule
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:18:00 -
[155]
I cannot believe the Caldari mega-corps would organise a race in which their own production ships are so unlikely of winning, its a bit like Boeing designing a show which highlights how good Airbus planes are! 
I can only hope that the mega-corps are not stupid and that they are currently working on a discovery, between now and the Championship, which will correct all Caldari ships handling and performance issues; and that my beloved Scorpion will stop acting like its turning around in semi-dried cement. |

Marc Vestabule
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:18:00 -
[156]
I cannot believe the Caldari mega-corps would organise a race in which their own production ships are so unlikely of winning, its a bit like Boeing designing a show which highlights how good Airbus planes are! 
I can only hope that the mega-corps are not stupid and that they are currently working on a discovery, between now and the Championship, which will correct all Caldari ships handling and performance issues; and that my beloved Scorpion will stop acting like its turning around in semi-dried cement. |

Gnauton
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:19:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Jade Alexander
Originally by: Rinji Question: If we are gone for part of the 4-week qualifying sesion are we screwed, or do we just need to participate in any one of the 5 qualifiers? I'm going to be gone for the first week and would really really hate to miss out on this race.
Yes, I would like to know this as well...
I will be back on September 5th. Do I stand a chance or should I just forget all about it?
There will be 5 qualifier races for each corporation, each with 20 players out of the total of 100 admitted for the corp's qualifiers. The top 2 players from each qualifier race will go on to race on behalf of their megacorp in the final race. No single player will have to participate in more than one qualifier.
In general there will be 5 days, give or take, between qualifiers for any given corp. Right now we're thinking of spreading each corporation's 5 qualifiers out among different time zones so as to give players everywhere a fair chance to race on behalf of their favorite megacorp. If you sign up, have sufficient standings with the corp, and get a qualifier date that you won't be able to make, it's conceivable that we might be able to switch you with someone from another qualifier for the same corp, provided you're able and willing to re-arrange your clock on that date in order to race with players from a different time zone. No promises yet, though, as we can't be sure at this point how much of a logistical headache it will be.
These points will be clarified in future updates to the rules section of the sign-up page. Until then, hope I've helped. |

Gnauton
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:19:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Jade Alexander
Originally by: Rinji Question: If we are gone for part of the 4-week qualifying sesion are we screwed, or do we just need to participate in any one of the 5 qualifiers? I'm going to be gone for the first week and would really really hate to miss out on this race.
Yes, I would like to know this as well...
I will be back on September 5th. Do I stand a chance or should I just forget all about it?
There will be 5 qualifier races for each corporation, each with 20 players out of the total of 100 admitted for the corp's qualifiers. The top 2 players from each qualifier race will go on to race on behalf of their megacorp in the final race. No single player will have to participate in more than one qualifier.
In general there will be 5 days, give or take, between qualifiers for any given corp. Right now we're thinking of spreading each corporation's 5 qualifiers out among different time zones so as to give players everywhere a fair chance to race on behalf of their favorite megacorp. If you sign up, have sufficient standings with the corp, and get a qualifier date that you won't be able to make, it's conceivable that we might be able to switch you with someone from another qualifier for the same corp, provided you're able and willing to re-arrange your clock on that date in order to race with players from a different time zone. No promises yet, though, as we can't be sure at this point how much of a logistical headache it will be.
These points will be clarified in future updates to the rules section of the sign-up page. Until then, hope I've helped. |

Jade Alexander
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:27:00 -
[159]
Gnauton, thanks for the quick reply. 
Hope for a chance was all I was asking for at the present time and you have provided that... ________________________________
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Jade Alexander
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:27:00 -
[160]
Gnauton, thanks for the quick reply. 
Hope for a chance was all I was asking for at the present time and you have provided that... ________________________________
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olyyy
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:38:00 -
[161]
Edited by: olyyy on 22/07/2004 00:40:55 it could be extremly fun and nice if the race was through ALL 0.0 regions, this way giving a chance to all alliances to "eliminate" some opponents  then it's not sure small frigs would be the ship of choice since they would get popped too easely  Also team work would be requested to survive to the trip and reach the final system 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |

olyyy
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Posted - 2004.07.22 00:38:00 -
[162]
Edited by: olyyy on 22/07/2004 00:40:55 it could be extremly fun and nice if the race was through ALL 0.0 regions, this way giving a chance to all alliances to "eliminate" some opponents  then it's not sure small frigs would be the ship of choice since they would get popped too easely  Also team work would be requested to survive to the trip and reach the final system 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |

Maliko
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Posted - 2004.07.22 01:03:00 -
[163]
The race is all about who has the uberleeet computer to load the next system the fastest. I've participated in a race before and that's all it came down to, whoever had the fastest comp.
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Maliko
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Posted - 2004.07.22 01:03:00 -
[164]
The race is all about who has the uberleeet computer to load the next system the fastest. I've participated in a race before and that's all it came down to, whoever had the fastest comp.
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.07.22 01:34:00 -
[165]
Edited by: Kayosoni on 22/07/2004 01:35:47 Fastest comp? I am sure to win, and with 4 accounts of all caldari characters, I'm sure to get in.  -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.07.22 01:34:00 -
[166]
Edited by: Kayosoni on 22/07/2004 01:35:47 Fastest comp? I am sure to win, and with 4 accounts of all caldari characters, I'm sure to get in.  -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

corporal hicks
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Posted - 2004.07.22 02:42:00 -
[167]
I have to ask in the interests of rp ect, When are the caldari going to ask the alliances if they can run there race into there space? According to the jove delegate all alliances as such have been recognised as independant empires by the jove. This would lead me to belive that the caldari have to get permission to do this in alliance space and if the GM's interfere to stop alliances camping there systems with speed camra's to dish out some penalty points of course. This act if the GM's interfere will surly just undermine the whole rp nature of the jove event and this event.
Think along the lines of Death Race 2000 should be the way it go's no holds barred and if ya make it ya make it if not your dead.
Just my opinion.
" Stay Frosty "
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2004.07.22 02:42:00 -
[168]
I have to ask in the interests of rp ect, When are the caldari going to ask the alliances if they can run there race into there space? According to the jove delegate all alliances as such have been recognised as independant empires by the jove. This would lead me to belive that the caldari have to get permission to do this in alliance space and if the GM's interfere to stop alliances camping there systems with speed camra's to dish out some penalty points of course. This act if the GM's interfere will surly just undermine the whole rp nature of the jove event and this event.
Think along the lines of Death Race 2000 should be the way it go's no holds barred and if ya make it ya make it if not your dead.
Just my opinion.
" Stay Frosty "
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Z0mbie
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Posted - 2004.07.22 02:46:00 -
[169]
120 - 150 jumps.... I need to install a bed in my ship, bring the miss's and the kids... |

Z0mbie
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Posted - 2004.07.22 02:46:00 -
[170]
120 - 150 jumps.... I need to install a bed in my ship, bring the miss's and the kids... |

ricko mortis
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Posted - 2004.07.22 02:52:00 -
[171]
Race begins race gets 10 jumps away Dear players we need to make a short unsceduled reboot at 20.20 everyone gets kicked 20 mins pass everyone trys log back in. First guy in race gets 3 min headstart on rest 35 jumps away lead guy gets ctd..damn Lead guys gets back in to find himself in 5th Repeat 20 more times with various players 5 jumps from finish 4 guys left in race dear players we need to make a short unsceduled reboot at 04.35 First guy back wins.
Moral Fix the bugs get shiva out and stop trying to take our minds off all the other stuff by stagging another championship like last years Amarr one so you can give yourselfs breathing room.
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ricko mortis
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Posted - 2004.07.22 02:52:00 -
[172]
Race begins race gets 10 jumps away Dear players we need to make a short unsceduled reboot at 20.20 everyone gets kicked 20 mins pass everyone trys log back in. First guy in race gets 3 min headstart on rest 35 jumps away lead guy gets ctd..damn Lead guys gets back in to find himself in 5th Repeat 20 more times with various players 5 jumps from finish 4 guys left in race dear players we need to make a short unsceduled reboot at 04.35 First guy back wins.
Moral Fix the bugs get shiva out and stop trying to take our minds off all the other stuff by stagging another championship like last years Amarr one so you can give yourselfs breathing room.
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Nathan Adler
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Posted - 2004.07.22 03:06:00 -
[173]
Originally by: corporal hicks I have to ask in the interests of rp ect, When are the caldari going to ask the alliances if they can run there race into there space? According to the jove delegate all alliances as such have been recognised as independant empires by the jove. This would lead me to belive that the caldari have to get permission to do this in alliance space and if the GM's interfere to stop alliances camping there systems with speed camra's to dish out some penalty points of course. This act if the GM's interfere will surly just undermine the whole rp nature of the jove event and this event.
Just because the Jove consider them a soverign state doesn't make it so. The bloody Jove don't count for squat in my books. :p
Out of curiosity, the standings that are needed to pass into the final 100... do these take into account standings with the corporation police force? If someone works for Lai Dai protection service, would they have less of a chance than someone who works directly for Lai Dai? If so, would that not discriminate against combat pilots who want to help their favourite Caldari corp? (I say this as an outsider, so I'm not 100% sure how these work)
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Nathan Adler
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Posted - 2004.07.22 03:06:00 -
[174]
Originally by: corporal hicks I have to ask in the interests of rp ect, When are the caldari going to ask the alliances if they can run there race into there space? According to the jove delegate all alliances as such have been recognised as independant empires by the jove. This would lead me to belive that the caldari have to get permission to do this in alliance space and if the GM's interfere to stop alliances camping there systems with speed camra's to dish out some penalty points of course. This act if the GM's interfere will surly just undermine the whole rp nature of the jove event and this event.
Just because the Jove consider them a soverign state doesn't make it so. The bloody Jove don't count for squat in my books. :p
Out of curiosity, the standings that are needed to pass into the final 100... do these take into account standings with the corporation police force? If someone works for Lai Dai protection service, would they have less of a chance than someone who works directly for Lai Dai? If so, would that not discriminate against combat pilots who want to help their favourite Caldari corp? (I say this as an outsider, so I'm not 100% sure how these work)
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.07.22 03:27:00 -
[175]
Originally by: ricko mortis Race begins race gets 10 jumps away Dear players we need to make a short unsceduled reboot at 20.20 everyone gets kicked 20 mins pass everyone trys log back in. First guy in race gets 3 min headstart on rest 35 jumps away lead guy gets ctd..damn Lead guys gets back in to find himself in 5th Repeat 20 more times with various players 5 jumps from finish 4 guys left in race dear players we need to make a short unsceduled reboot at 04.35 First guy back wins.
Moral Fix the bugs get shiva out and stop trying to take our minds off all the other stuff by stagging another championship like last years Amarr one so you can give yourselfs breathing room.
In case you did not know this, the Dev's do not organise these events. They mearly give trained volunteers the tools to make them happen for the community.
Will the server need to make a short unsceduled reboot? ... maybe. Will people CTD? ... maybe. Everyone here is playing the same game... all is fair 'game'.
You may eat my space dust at the finish line. 
Want to work for me? |

PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.07.22 03:27:00 -
[176]
Originally by: ricko mortis Race begins race gets 10 jumps away Dear players we need to make a short unsceduled reboot at 20.20 everyone gets kicked 20 mins pass everyone trys log back in. First guy in race gets 3 min headstart on rest 35 jumps away lead guy gets ctd..damn Lead guys gets back in to find himself in 5th Repeat 20 more times with various players 5 jumps from finish 4 guys left in race dear players we need to make a short unsceduled reboot at 04.35 First guy back wins.
Moral Fix the bugs get shiva out and stop trying to take our minds off all the other stuff by stagging another championship like last years Amarr one so you can give yourselfs breathing room.
In case you did not know this, the Dev's do not organise these events. They mearly give trained volunteers the tools to make them happen for the community.
Will the server need to make a short unsceduled reboot? ... maybe. Will people CTD? ... maybe. Everyone here is playing the same game... all is fair 'game'.
You may eat my space dust at the finish line. 
Want to work for me? |

Hans Schinkel
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Posted - 2004.07.22 06:46:00 -
[177]
Good luck to everyone taking part in this great event! I hope it's a great success and that there will be more like it in the future. 
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Hans Schinkel
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Posted - 2004.07.22 06:46:00 -
[178]
Good luck to everyone taking part in this great event! I hope it's a great success and that there will be more like it in the future. 
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.22 07:39:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Ivresse on 22/07/2004 07:42:11 Anyways, back to my original question, will we get a background for the corporations we're representing as to what they plan to gain from this race as well as what they will achieve if they win? It would be helpful to us non-Caldari who want to participate if there is, as it would help us decide which corp we should represent...
Oh yes, and one more thing, will standings take diplomacy skill into account? I have a 0.33 rating with the Caldari, but only because I have Diplomacy at lvl 3... ---------------------
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.22 07:39:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Ivresse on 22/07/2004 07:42:11 Anyways, back to my original question, will we get a background for the corporations we're representing as to what they plan to gain from this race as well as what they will achieve if they win? It would be helpful to us non-Caldari who want to participate if there is, as it would help us decide which corp we should represent...
Oh yes, and one more thing, will standings take diplomacy skill into account? I have a 0.33 rating with the Caldari, but only because I have Diplomacy at lvl 3... ---------------------
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.07.22 07:45:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Nathan Adler
Originally by: corporal hicks I have to ask in the interests of rp ect, When are the caldari going to ask the alliances if they can run there race into there space? According to the jove delegate all alliances as such have been recognised as independant empires by the jove. This would lead me to belive that the caldari have to get permission to do this in alliance space and if the GM's interfere to stop alliances camping there systems with speed camra's to dish out some penalty points of course. This act if the GM's interfere will surly just undermine the whole rp nature of the jove event and this event.
Just because the Jove consider them a soverign state doesn't make it so. The bloody Jove don't count for squat in my books. :p)
Think the point was that according to the story arc, the Caldari State agreed with the Joves and recognised alliances as states...
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.07.22 07:45:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Nathan Adler
Originally by: corporal hicks I have to ask in the interests of rp ect, When are the caldari going to ask the alliances if they can run there race into there space? According to the jove delegate all alliances as such have been recognised as independant empires by the jove. This would lead me to belive that the caldari have to get permission to do this in alliance space and if the GM's interfere to stop alliances camping there systems with speed camra's to dish out some penalty points of course. This act if the GM's interfere will surly just undermine the whole rp nature of the jove event and this event.
Just because the Jove consider them a soverign state doesn't make it so. The bloody Jove don't count for squat in my books. :p)
Think the point was that according to the story arc, the Caldari State agreed with the Joves and recognised alliances as states...
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Gank CE0
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Posted - 2004.07.22 08:07:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Viceroy My dear Sinist.
Firstly, you are just jumping around screaming, not because the event sucks or anything, but because you dont like the event team or their lead. Note that nothing in this event is certain yet, no one has announced exactly how the race will happen, where it will be, how the route will be decided etc. You're just whining because you want to make it look like its a failure even though it hasnt even happened, and the event team has stated that nothing is final yet. If you have a grudge with Nebulai or aurora, I advise you to mail [email protected] instead of whining like a 4 year old on the forums and making a total arse out of yourself. Thanks.
Secondly, nobody is going to have great big fleets of battleships running around deploying mobiles (which take 5-10 minutes to deploy alone, not to mention pack up) while a group of 10 ships are zipping around with microwarpdrives (note that mobiles take 200 to 600 m3 cargo, so the "campers" will have to keep an industrial with them if they want to deploy the "5-10" (lol) mobiles that you suggest), probably through different routes in a time-frame of 10-20 minutes after they are given the route. That being said, again, nothing is clear about the route or how it will be decided, so you're just screaming about something that hasnt even been declared yet.
Thirdly, its a multiplayer game. If you have friends who can help you out in the race, FAIR GAME. If you got buddies that can gank your competitors, GOOD FOR YOU. This isnt the amarr championship, its stated that there are no rules of engagement. Playing dirty is probably the only way to win this particular event. Its not a "fair race". If you dont have friends who can help you, TOUGH LUCK. Go play freelancer.
That being said, I suggest that you start comming up with constructive critism instead of doom-saying about stuff that hasnt even been decided yet, much less declared.
My gosh ! You know I'd never noticed how wise Viceroy is before , this actually makes sense  All the power he wields is actually attractive in non mansechs kinda way too 
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Gank CE0
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Posted - 2004.07.22 08:07:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Viceroy My dear Sinist.
Firstly, you are just jumping around screaming, not because the event sucks or anything, but because you dont like the event team or their lead. Note that nothing in this event is certain yet, no one has announced exactly how the race will happen, where it will be, how the route will be decided etc. You're just whining because you want to make it look like its a failure even though it hasnt even happened, and the event team has stated that nothing is final yet. If you have a grudge with Nebulai or aurora, I advise you to mail [email protected] instead of whining like a 4 year old on the forums and making a total arse out of yourself. Thanks.
Secondly, nobody is going to have great big fleets of battleships running around deploying mobiles (which take 5-10 minutes to deploy alone, not to mention pack up) while a group of 10 ships are zipping around with microwarpdrives (note that mobiles take 200 to 600 m3 cargo, so the "campers" will have to keep an industrial with them if they want to deploy the "5-10" (lol) mobiles that you suggest), probably through different routes in a time-frame of 10-20 minutes after they are given the route. That being said, again, nothing is clear about the route or how it will be decided, so you're just screaming about something that hasnt even been declared yet.
Thirdly, its a multiplayer game. If you have friends who can help you out in the race, FAIR GAME. If you got buddies that can gank your competitors, GOOD FOR YOU. This isnt the amarr championship, its stated that there are no rules of engagement. Playing dirty is probably the only way to win this particular event. Its not a "fair race". If you dont have friends who can help you, TOUGH LUCK. Go play freelancer.
That being said, I suggest that you start comming up with constructive critism instead of doom-saying about stuff that hasnt even been decided yet, much less declared.
My gosh ! You know I'd never noticed how wise Viceroy is before , this actually makes sense  All the power he wields is actually attractive in non mansechs kinda way too 
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Mirvnillith
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Posted - 2004.07.22 08:09:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Sinist How is an event like this possible Nebulai with any corporation camping the routes with a whole bunch of medium warp disruptors and killing all but their allies.
The rest will have to travel around them? Or amass a large enough force to break the blockade?
If you can enlighten me on these points.
No-holds-barred works both ways doesn't it? If pilot A has corps X, Y and Z put up a hefty camp to put everyone else in pods, why cannot pilot B get corps Q, W, E, R and T to clear the way? This could end up a VERY cooperative race, with both active and inactive "bystanders". Perhaps even in-race pilots could gang up with some aimed at boosting "sprinters" by tricks-n-traps? Make no mistake, a single pilot on his own won't easily win this race. It'll take a team effort, both on- and off-track!
--- Implement forum search already!!! |

Mirvnillith
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Posted - 2004.07.22 08:09:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Sinist How is an event like this possible Nebulai with any corporation camping the routes with a whole bunch of medium warp disruptors and killing all but their allies.
The rest will have to travel around them? Or amass a large enough force to break the blockade?
If you can enlighten me on these points.
No-holds-barred works both ways doesn't it? If pilot A has corps X, Y and Z put up a hefty camp to put everyone else in pods, why cannot pilot B get corps Q, W, E, R and T to clear the way? This could end up a VERY cooperative race, with both active and inactive "bystanders". Perhaps even in-race pilots could gang up with some aimed at boosting "sprinters" by tricks-n-traps? Make no mistake, a single pilot on his own won't easily win this race. It'll take a team effort, both on- and off-track!
--- Implement forum search already!!! |

Albus
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Posted - 2004.07.22 08:28:00 -
[187]
Wow, this sounds like great fun. Shame my Caldari standings are completely crap :-(
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Albus
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Posted - 2004.07.22 08:28:00 -
[188]
Wow, this sounds like great fun. Shame my Caldari standings are completely crap :-(
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jason hill
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:17:00 -
[189]
he he he ..jason starts to train acceleration control level 5 
"THE HUMAN SHIELD" |

jason hill
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:17:00 -
[190]
he he he ..jason starts to train acceleration control level 5 
"THE HUMAN SHIELD" |

Gungankllr
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:27:00 -
[191]
Edited by: Gungankllr on 22/07/2004 14:25:15

www.hadean.org
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:27:00 -
[192]
Edited by: Gungankllr on 22/07/2004 14:25:15

www.hadean.org
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:28:00 -
[193]
Edited by: Vel Kyri on 22/07/2004 09:31:01 OK. seeing all this is making me frustrated... have some imagination and do some research ppl.. 
anyway.
for background on the corporations.. see: State Factionalism (chronicle)
and Sukuuvestaa CBD NOH Hyasyoda Ishukone Kaalakiota Lai Dai Wiyrkomi
As to racing...
why do you assume all that will be involved is set autopilot to system, warp jump warp jump....
how about checkpoints that are a few 1000km from a planet, or having to collect certain items from stations etc..
and as for the route - it is more than possible that you are given checkpoint - and at the checkpoint you receive word of the next checkpoint... easy to get somwhat around the camping problem.
the caldari are inventive, ruthless business people - i am sure they will think of various things to challenge you.
and ps - this is open to ANYONE with positive caldari standings - with no further rules about teams/equip etc...
be imaginative ppl -----
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:28:00 -
[194]
Edited by: Vel Kyri on 22/07/2004 09:31:01 OK. seeing all this is making me frustrated... have some imagination and do some research ppl.. 
anyway.
for background on the corporations.. see: State Factionalism (chronicle)
and Sukuuvestaa CBD NOH Hyasyoda Ishukone Kaalakiota Lai Dai Wiyrkomi
As to racing...
why do you assume all that will be involved is set autopilot to system, warp jump warp jump....
how about checkpoints that are a few 1000km from a planet, or having to collect certain items from stations etc..
and as for the route - it is more than possible that you are given checkpoint - and at the checkpoint you receive word of the next checkpoint... easy to get somwhat around the camping problem.
the caldari are inventive, ruthless business people - i am sure they will think of various things to challenge you.
and ps - this is open to ANYONE with positive caldari standings - with no further rules about teams/equip etc...
be imaginative ppl -----
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Jowen Datloran
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:35:00 -
[195]
Now I wonder if the agression detection system will be disabled at the stargates the race goes through. If the sentries and CONCORD doesn't react to agression between contestans and you're free to jump whenever you want to this could become a very interesting race.
---------------- What's a rumor on page one is a fact on page two |

Jowen Datloran
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:35:00 -
[196]
Now I wonder if the agression detection system will be disabled at the stargates the race goes through. If the sentries and CONCORD doesn't react to agression between contestans and you're free to jump whenever you want to this could become a very interesting race.
---------------- What's a rumor on page one is a fact on page two |

Oveur
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:35:00 -
[197]
As to why it's a race:
World of EVE / Caldari: "To curb their aggressive tendencies, the Caldari actively pursue and sponsor a range of sporting activities. Many of these are bloody, gladiatorial-like competitions, while others are more like races. But whatever the sport, the Caldari love betting on the outcome, making gambling a massive industry in the State."
The race has waypoints, the routes will not be known beforehand, you will be allowed to shoot people (competitors and non-competitors alike), if you manage to find them. GM's will not interfere unless absolutely necessary.
Those are also preliminary rules, subject to change, since we haven't made up our mind yet regarding things such as 2 MWD's or if we want to limit the race to certain ships types. _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |

Oveur
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:35:00 -
[198]
As to why it's a race:
World of EVE / Caldari: "To curb their aggressive tendencies, the Caldari actively pursue and sponsor a range of sporting activities. Many of these are bloody, gladiatorial-like competitions, while others are more like races. But whatever the sport, the Caldari love betting on the outcome, making gambling a massive industry in the State."
The race has waypoints, the routes will not be known beforehand, you will be allowed to shoot people (competitors and non-competitors alike), if you manage to find them. GM's will not interfere unless absolutely necessary.
Those are also preliminary rules, subject to change, since we haven't made up our mind yet regarding things such as 2 MWD's or if we want to limit the race to certain ships types. _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |

Elithiomel
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:38:00 -
[199]
Edited by: Elithiomel on 22/07/2004 09:41:45 Covert ops friggies will be nice for this. Especially given that iirc they have a x4.5 (13.5au/sec)warp speed multiplier (interceptors and frigates only have x2.0). Be really nice if Black ops frigates were available before this race because i think they have a x6 (18au/sec) warp speed multiplier. --------------------------------------------- Engineers motto; If it doesn't fit, force it. If it breaks it needed replacing anyway. |

Elithiomel
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:38:00 -
[200]
Edited by: Elithiomel on 22/07/2004 09:41:45 Covert ops friggies will be nice for this. Especially given that iirc they have a x4.5 (13.5au/sec)warp speed multiplier (interceptors and frigates only have x2.0). Be really nice if Black ops frigates were available before this race because i think they have a x6 (18au/sec) warp speed multiplier. --------------------------------------------- Engineers motto; If it doesn't fit, force it. If it breaks it needed replacing anyway. |

Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:44:00 -
[201]
will this provoke the gallente? ;)
Everyone please see linky ^^  ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.07.22 09:44:00 -
[202]
will this provoke the gallente? ;)
Everyone please see linky ^^  ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
:: bio :: blog ::
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Oveur
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Posted - 2004.07.22 10:14:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Jowen Datloran Now I wonder if the agression detection system will be disabled at the stargates the race goes through. If the sentries and CONCORD doesn't react to agression between contestans and you're free to jump whenever you want to this could become a very interesting race.
If some of the legs go through Empire space, Empire space laws will be fully enforced. That's part of the race. _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |

Oveur
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Posted - 2004.07.22 10:14:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Jowen Datloran Now I wonder if the agression detection system will be disabled at the stargates the race goes through. If the sentries and CONCORD doesn't react to agression between contestans and you're free to jump whenever you want to this could become a very interesting race.
If some of the legs go through Empire space, Empire space laws will be fully enforced. That's part of the race. _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |

FoRGyL
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Posted - 2004.07.22 10:50:00 -
[205]
Instajumps for sale anyone?
Most of empire wanted. 
-out- ********************************************************* Ohhhh iyayaayaya puff ohh iyaayaya puff puff PVR =Player vs Roid! Burr, scary peps!!! |

FoRGyL
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Posted - 2004.07.22 10:50:00 -
[206]
Instajumps for sale anyone?
Most of empire wanted. 
-out- ********************************************************* Ohhhh iyayaayaya puff ohh iyaayaya puff puff PVR =Player vs Roid! Burr, scary peps!!! |

MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.22 10:56:00 -
[207]
Damn wish I could compete ------------------------------------------
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.22 10:56:00 -
[208]
Damn wish I could compete ------------------------------------------
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Artean
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:50:00 -
[209]
Sounds amazing!
A bit of "deathrace 2000" kind of feeling to it... even more if u added some innocent spectators we could blow up at the gates.. ........ There is a fine line between gate camping and just standing by a gate, looking like an idiot... |

Artean
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:50:00 -
[210]
Sounds amazing!
A bit of "deathrace 2000" kind of feeling to it... even more if u added some innocent spectators we could blow up at the gates.. ........ There is a fine line between gate camping and just standing by a gate, looking like an idiot... |

Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:54:00 -
[211]
Do you think the devs would mind if DUI Racing organises a betting element to the race? Or are CCP organising a betting element themselves, since they themselves said that the Caldari love to bet on the outcome...
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.22 11:54:00 -
[212]
Do you think the devs would mind if DUI Racing organises a betting element to the race? Or are CCP organising a betting element themselves, since they themselves said that the Caldari love to bet on the outcome...
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Gnauton
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Posted - 2004.07.22 12:09:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Ivresse Do you think the devs would mind if DUI Racing organises a betting element to the race?
We'd love it if you organised a betting element. If well done, we'd support it through the in-game news and weave it into the storyline. |

Gnauton
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Posted - 2004.07.22 12:09:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Ivresse Do you think the devs would mind if DUI Racing organises a betting element to the race?
We'd love it if you organised a betting element. If well done, we'd support it through the in-game news and weave it into the storyline. |

Cemetary
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Posted - 2004.07.22 12:22:00 -
[215]
Seeing as Ytiri has blessed me in so many ways,it`s only fair that I win this contest in their name. ------------------------------------------------- Ytiri kills |

Cemetary
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Posted - 2004.07.22 12:22:00 -
[216]
Seeing as Ytiri has blessed me in so many ways,it`s only fair that I win this contest in their name. ------------------------------------------------- Ytiri kills |

Monty Burns
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Posted - 2004.07.22 12:46:00 -
[217]
I'm well up for this with either of my characters that can use interceptors. You seen the speed an interceptor can do with 2 MWD's and a few overdrives? Think you can lock and web me even if i have to go 100k to get to a gate? Try it!
I as a matter of ocupation I MWD through small to large fleets and then just mwd to 500/600km in a matter of seconds away from them. Its fun watching these frigs try and catch up. The only oponents there will be other similar equiped Dual MWD Interceptors.
Gona be fun im sure! :-) Sadly I really do think it will come down to load times and this is where the fact I live in London, lots of memory, fast CPU, 3meg link and have dual raptor striped disks will help give me the edge I need.
Good luck to all!
  Darwin 4tw
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Monty Burns
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Posted - 2004.07.22 12:46:00 -
[218]
I'm well up for this with either of my characters that can use interceptors. You seen the speed an interceptor can do with 2 MWD's and a few overdrives? Think you can lock and web me even if i have to go 100k to get to a gate? Try it!
I as a matter of ocupation I MWD through small to large fleets and then just mwd to 500/600km in a matter of seconds away from them. Its fun watching these frigs try and catch up. The only oponents there will be other similar equiped Dual MWD Interceptors.
Gona be fun im sure! :-) Sadly I really do think it will come down to load times and this is where the fact I live in London, lots of memory, fast CPU, 3meg link and have dual raptor striped disks will help give me the edge I need.
Good luck to all!
  Darwin 4tw
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.07.22 12:56:00 -
[219]
Edited by: Jim Steele on 22/07/2004 13:01:17
Originally by: Monty Burns I'm well up for this with either of my characters that can use interceptors.
Good luck to all!
 
so what happens if you come accros a disco apoc beaming with smartbombs sat on a gate? kaaabbooooom no more frigate, i personally think it should be done rally style so your depart time and your finish time are used to determine a final time to reduce the inevitable carnage that will follow, i guess nothings been decided yet but it sounds like a carnage (where do i sign up ) Yarrgh.. oh incidently what happens if no-one manages to finish the race?
Death to the Galante |

Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.07.22 12:56:00 -
[220]
Edited by: Jim Steele on 22/07/2004 13:01:17
Originally by: Monty Burns I'm well up for this with either of my characters that can use interceptors.
Good luck to all!
 
so what happens if you come accros a disco apoc beaming with smartbombs sat on a gate? kaaabbooooom no more frigate, i personally think it should be done rally style so your depart time and your finish time are used to determine a final time to reduce the inevitable carnage that will follow, i guess nothings been decided yet but it sounds like a carnage (where do i sign up ) Yarrgh.. oh incidently what happens if no-one manages to finish the race?
Death to the Galante |

Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2004.07.22 13:06:00 -
[221]
/me images the scene Big crowd waiting at finish line for the contestants to arrive..
1h passes.
2h passes..
finally a single pod comes across the finish line to meet the cleaners taking away the rubbish... -----
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2004.07.22 13:06:00 -
[222]
/me images the scene Big crowd waiting at finish line for the contestants to arrive..
1h passes.
2h passes..
finally a single pod comes across the finish line to meet the cleaners taking away the rubbish... -----
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Sammira
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Posted - 2004.07.22 13:19:00 -
[223]
( Heh, I like the idea of getting the player run betting into the championships and into the story arc. On that note, Drink Starsi will be sponsoring one of the 300 patriot corp pilots in this racing championship. See this thread in the IGS to state interst/apply/ask questions. )
Drink Starsi Press release about sponsoring a Colossus Racer
***********
As it is currently doing with the Splinterz champion, Crushor Mk III, Drink StarsiÖ is also willing to sponsor an efficient Caldari pilot for the coming Colossus Race.
The pilot must have a good standing with the State and/or be know for his dedication to the State. The pilot must run for a patriot Corporation, which are Kaalakiota, Lai Dai and Wiyrkomi. The pilot will have to apply Drink StarsiÖ logos on his ships, and mention his sponsor each time he will publicly communicate.
Drink StarsiÖ may provide to the pilot material, intelligence, and StarsiÖ refreshements.
************
More sponsorship may become available, depending on interest and the calibre of the pilots in the qualifying races.
Drink StarsiÖ + [DS] Haulage Production Division Caldari State Citizen
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Sammira
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Posted - 2004.07.22 13:19:00 -
[224]
( Heh, I like the idea of getting the player run betting into the championships and into the story arc. On that note, Drink Starsi will be sponsoring one of the 300 patriot corp pilots in this racing championship. See this thread in the IGS to state interst/apply/ask questions. )
Drink Starsi Press release about sponsoring a Colossus Racer
***********
As it is currently doing with the Splinterz champion, Crushor Mk III, Drink StarsiÖ is also willing to sponsor an efficient Caldari pilot for the coming Colossus Race.
The pilot must have a good standing with the State and/or be know for his dedication to the State. The pilot must run for a patriot Corporation, which are Kaalakiota, Lai Dai and Wiyrkomi. The pilot will have to apply Drink StarsiÖ logos on his ships, and mention his sponsor each time he will publicly communicate.
Drink StarsiÖ may provide to the pilot material, intelligence, and StarsiÖ refreshements.
************
More sponsorship may become available, depending on interest and the calibre of the pilots in the qualifying races.
Drink StarsiÖ + [DS] Haulage Production Division Caldari State Citizen
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.07.22 13:41:00 -
[225]
Edited by: Estios on 22/07/2004 14:08:28 Omg Sinist you are the new no1 forum ***** of all time. Step aside Josh, this guy > you 
I felt a bit ashamed to be agreeing with you on the \o/ side of that other thread, you have pretty much nothing to say and insist on saying what you do over and over again.
Ok there will be blockades, Im pretty sure CCP realise this but hey, where is the fun seeing who has the fastest loading PC ?
And whilst I dont think it will be in Jove space you give it the biggen saying 'Wheres the roleplay arc in that crazy plan' (or words to that effect) ....ERRR maybe the fact that the Caldari race just won massive props from the JOVIAN event perhaps ??
I doubt I'll be able to enter coz Ive only ever done agent missions for pirate factions and I dont think they get on too well with the Caldari but give it a rest pls dude.
I'll be at a gate no doubt.....handing out cups of water for the racers of course
Edit: I had only read the 1st three pages when I made this post....now Ive read the whole thing I see Viceroy and a Dev have already wtfpwnd you. Please go to local shops and buy both some prozac and a clue !!
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.07.22 13:41:00 -
[226]
Edited by: Estios on 22/07/2004 14:08:28 Omg Sinist you are the new no1 forum ***** of all time. Step aside Josh, this guy > you 
I felt a bit ashamed to be agreeing with you on the \o/ side of that other thread, you have pretty much nothing to say and insist on saying what you do over and over again.
Ok there will be blockades, Im pretty sure CCP realise this but hey, where is the fun seeing who has the fastest loading PC ?
And whilst I dont think it will be in Jove space you give it the biggen saying 'Wheres the roleplay arc in that crazy plan' (or words to that effect) ....ERRR maybe the fact that the Caldari race just won massive props from the JOVIAN event perhaps ??
I doubt I'll be able to enter coz Ive only ever done agent missions for pirate factions and I dont think they get on too well with the Caldari but give it a rest pls dude.
I'll be at a gate no doubt.....handing out cups of water for the racers of course
Edit: I had only read the 1st three pages when I made this post....now Ive read the whole thing I see Viceroy and a Dev have already wtfpwnd you. Please go to local shops and buy both some prozac and a clue !!
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.07.22 14:36:00 -
[227]
( Quick Question:
Is there any restriction a player putting forward multiple characters into this event from the same or multiple accounts? Actually only have one account myself, so is only the one character per account allowed to apply to participate? )
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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Celebon
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Posted - 2004.07.22 14:36:00 -
[228]
( Quick Question:
Is there any restriction a player putting forward multiple characters into this event from the same or multiple accounts? Actually only have one account myself, so is only the one character per account allowed to apply to participate? )
Drink StarsiÖ Security Division Caldari State Citizen
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.07.22 14:42:00 -
[229]
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 22/07/2004 14:54:10
It is good to see the Caldari State enter into the entertainment industry. It will bring the Caldari concept of competition into the Gallente-dominated world of entertainment. I see nothing wrong in that.
However, I expect a small inconvenience to be announced soon. Seeing the amount of publicity the Caldari State is gaining with this event, one can expect that usage of a depsoited trademark and copyrighted name in the title of such a large event could lead to problems.
Wether or not this will indeed bring out an indictment or official complaint is yet to be seen, but the Caldari State would do good to contact Colossus Technologies corporation to either gain it's ceo's approval or to start negotiations for a settlement of a likely costly dispute that might erupt at any time over this.
In the mean time, all us non-Caldari will be trying to fit the races into our schedules so we can watch, of course.
link to economics section
Rod Blaine Colossus Security Services CEO spokesperson and economical advisor for Colossus Technologies Corp. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.07.22 14:42:00 -
[230]
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 22/07/2004 14:54:10
It is good to see the Caldari State enter into the entertainment industry. It will bring the Caldari concept of competition into the Gallente-dominated world of entertainment. I see nothing wrong in that.
However, I expect a small inconvenience to be announced soon. Seeing the amount of publicity the Caldari State is gaining with this event, one can expect that usage of a depsoited trademark and copyrighted name in the title of such a large event could lead to problems.
Wether or not this will indeed bring out an indictment or official complaint is yet to be seen, but the Caldari State would do good to contact Colossus Technologies corporation to either gain it's ceo's approval or to start negotiations for a settlement of a likely costly dispute that might erupt at any time over this.
In the mean time, all us non-Caldari will be trying to fit the races into our schedules so we can watch, of course.
link to economics section
Rod Blaine Colossus Security Services CEO spokesperson and economical advisor for Colossus Technologies Corp. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Klopstschuk
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Posted - 2004.07.22 14:57:00 -
[231]
Is it possible to sign up for more than one Corp? Of course one will only be able to participate for one of the eight corps in the race. If it is not possible to sign up for more than one corp please include it in the rules.
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Klopstschuk
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Posted - 2004.07.22 14:57:00 -
[232]
Is it possible to sign up for more than one Corp? Of course one will only be able to participate for one of the eight corps in the race. If it is not possible to sign up for more than one corp please include it in the rules.
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Garramon
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Posted - 2004.07.22 15:39:00 -
[233]
Whats up with people complaining that it will be too hard because of blockades? Somebody will probably still win...
I'm not really worried about the blockades either. Two 10mn afterburners on my ship, and my sig radius stays low. Smartbombs are the only issue, so just be ready for them, keep your ear on blockade info, and come from a different direction. You get blown up? You don't win. But more than likely someone will get past, and finish, and they will be a hero. ------------------------------------------------
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Garramon
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Posted - 2004.07.22 15:39:00 -
[234]
Whats up with people complaining that it will be too hard because of blockades? Somebody will probably still win...
I'm not really worried about the blockades either. Two 10mn afterburners on my ship, and my sig radius stays low. Smartbombs are the only issue, so just be ready for them, keep your ear on blockade info, and come from a different direction. You get blown up? You don't win. But more than likely someone will get past, and finish, and they will be a hero. ------------------------------------------------
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.22 15:45:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Gnauton
We'd love it if you organised a betting element. If well done, we'd support it through the in-game news and weave it into the storyline.
Sweet, I'd love to help out with this event. Who should I talk to in order to discuss this element further? ---------------------
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.22 15:45:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Gnauton
We'd love it if you organised a betting element. If well done, we'd support it through the in-game news and weave it into the storyline.
Sweet, I'd love to help out with this event. Who should I talk to in order to discuss this element further? ---------------------
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jukriamrr
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Posted - 2004.07.22 15:54:00 -
[237]
This all sounds nice (frankly)! 
However, I have one slight concern ... i'm not rich.. that is: rich enough to lose, say, a Crow, a Claw or even a Cheetah, but NOT a full set of implant.
This begs the question: if this race is a "free-for-all" race, great. But will it include rules such as? :
- any ship in your way to victory is fair game. - pods are to be left alone.
Ah and... will a (small) negative standing with the Caldari State do? Like, around -1.2? 
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jukriamrr
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Posted - 2004.07.22 15:54:00 -
[238]
This all sounds nice (frankly)! 
However, I have one slight concern ... i'm not rich.. that is: rich enough to lose, say, a Crow, a Claw or even a Cheetah, but NOT a full set of implant.
This begs the question: if this race is a "free-for-all" race, great. But will it include rules such as? :
- any ship in your way to victory is fair game. - pods are to be left alone.
Ah and... will a (small) negative standing with the Caldari State do? Like, around -1.2? 
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Aelius
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Posted - 2004.07.22 16:28:00 -
[239]
Yeah... this is very fair indeed... Amarr have their own frigate championship where only Amarr could enter for the prize.
Now we Caldari make a race open to all even the stupid Gallente.
This is very roleplayish indeed... and yes im beeing sarcastic. 
Caldari ships and caldari pilots only, please
I can bet when the Gallente make their event (the strangest hairdue in the universe contest) those bald caldari like Negociator are not going to be allowed to participate. yarrrrr  Selling Raven BPC ME20 3M at Yulai 1st Station |

Aelius
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Posted - 2004.07.22 16:28:00 -
[240]
Yeah... this is very fair indeed... Amarr have their own frigate championship where only Amarr could enter for the prize.
Now we Caldari make a race open to all even the stupid Gallente.
This is very roleplayish indeed... and yes im beeing sarcastic. 
Caldari ships and caldari pilots only, please
I can bet when the Gallente make their event (the strangest hairdue in the universe contest) those bald caldari like Negociator are not going to be allowed to participate. yarrrrr  Selling Raven BPC ME20 3M at Yulai 1st Station |

Amarula
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Posted - 2004.07.22 16:37:00 -
[241]
Edited by: Amarula on 22/07/2004 16:42:26
Originally by: Aelius Yeah... this is very fair indeed... Amarr have their own frigate championship where only Amarr could enter for the prize.
Now we Caldari make a race open to all even the stupid Gallente.
This is very roleplayish indeed... and yes im beeing sarcastic. 
Caldari ships and caldari pilots only, please
I can bet when the Gallente make their event (the strangest hairdue in the universe contest) those bald caldari like Negociator are not going to be allowed to participate. yarrrrr 
Oh quit complaining, just because you're scared of going up against a few Gallente ships that will end up beating you in a race...
Besides, I don't know what you're complaining about anyway, you're more likely to be signed up into the race because you're more likely to have higher positive standings with the Caldari. So chances are you'll have about 5 foreigners to 95 Caldari per race anyway...
In anycase, this at least shows that the Caldari aren't Xenophobic, just tolerant of those that follow the rules, unlike the Amarr which are just the most xenophobic religious fanatics you could ever meet, so this is good roleplaying... ---------------
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Amarula
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Posted - 2004.07.22 16:37:00 -
[242]
Edited by: Amarula on 22/07/2004 16:42:26
Originally by: Aelius Yeah... this is very fair indeed... Amarr have their own frigate championship where only Amarr could enter for the prize.
Now we Caldari make a race open to all even the stupid Gallente.
This is very roleplayish indeed... and yes im beeing sarcastic. 
Caldari ships and caldari pilots only, please
I can bet when the Gallente make their event (the strangest hairdue in the universe contest) those bald caldari like Negociator are not going to be allowed to participate. yarrrrr 
Oh quit complaining, just because you're scared of going up against a few Gallente ships that will end up beating you in a race...
Besides, I don't know what you're complaining about anyway, you're more likely to be signed up into the race because you're more likely to have higher positive standings with the Caldari. So chances are you'll have about 5 foreigners to 95 Caldari per race anyway...
In anycase, this at least shows that the Caldari aren't Xenophobic, just tolerant of those that follow the rules, unlike the Amarr which are just the most xenophobic religious fanatics you could ever meet, so this is good roleplaying... ---------------
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2004.07.22 16:42:00 -
[243]
It's not open to ALL
I guess people can't read,
Got to have positive standing towards caldari. If they are gallente that support gallent missions they will not have a positive standing toward caldari.
that will illiminate all gallente mission runners weather the race or not......
As far as ships......i thought it was open to ALL class of pod carrying ships from what i read meaning any race ship if you got the skills.
Am I wrong on ships, is it only caldari ships? (sorry if previously posted as at work and can't read 6 pages of "wow cool" posts)
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2004.07.22 16:42:00 -
[244]
It's not open to ALL
I guess people can't read,
Got to have positive standing towards caldari. If they are gallente that support gallent missions they will not have a positive standing toward caldari.
that will illiminate all gallente mission runners weather the race or not......
As far as ships......i thought it was open to ALL class of pod carrying ships from what i read meaning any race ship if you got the skills.
Am I wrong on ships, is it only caldari ships? (sorry if previously posted as at work and can't read 6 pages of "wow cool" posts)
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.22 16:50:00 -
[245]
Is clone-jumping allowed?
I hope not or else Omega Corp. are dead certs to win 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.22 16:50:00 -
[246]
Is clone-jumping allowed?
I hope not or else Omega Corp. are dead certs to win 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.07.22 18:38:00 -
[247]
Edited by: Harisdrop on 22/07/2004 18:40:02 Joshua I hope they dont give out the plan until the race.
On the Gallente you guys are making me think to start doing some missions. I might just have to show you what it means to play fair  --------------------------
Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |

Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.07.22 18:38:00 -
[248]
Edited by: Harisdrop on 22/07/2004 18:40:02 Joshua I hope they dont give out the plan until the race.
On the Gallente you guys are making me think to start doing some missions. I might just have to show you what it means to play fair  --------------------------
Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |

Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:55:00 -
[249]
Instajumps.
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Selim
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Posted - 2004.07.22 20:55:00 -
[250]
Instajumps.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.07.22 21:35:00 -
[251]
This event sounds fun and all, but i think this race should have been a minmitar event, and the caldari should have been combat oriented 
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.07.22 21:35:00 -
[252]
This event sounds fun and all, but i think this race should have been a minmitar event, and the caldari should have been combat oriented 
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Matt Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.22 21:43:00 -
[253]
Hanns, if you read the Caldari race description, you'll see that the Caldari are heavily involved into racing and gambling, so this suits them down to a tee. With the Minmatars, I think they'd be more involved in combat trying to free their people instead of merely racing, even if they're the fastest... ---------------------------
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Matt Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.22 21:43:00 -
[254]
Hanns, if you read the Caldari race description, you'll see that the Caldari are heavily involved into racing and gambling, so this suits them down to a tee. With the Minmatars, I think they'd be more involved in combat trying to free their people instead of merely racing, even if they're the fastest... ---------------------------
DUI Racing - The PREMIER Racing corporation for Racing fans out there in the world of |

Hanns
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Posted - 2004.07.22 21:54:00 -
[255]
Originally by: Matt Ivresse Hanns, if you read the Caldari race description, you'll see that the Caldari are heavily involved into racing and gambling, so this suits them down to a tee. With the Minmatars, I think they'd be more involved in combat trying to free their people instead of merely racing, even if they're the fastest...
Hmm never read that much into it, but if they caldari are so into racing, why do most caldari ships handle like a veldspar roid?
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.07.22 21:54:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Matt Ivresse Hanns, if you read the Caldari race description, you'll see that the Caldari are heavily involved into racing and gambling, so this suits them down to a tee. With the Minmatars, I think they'd be more involved in combat trying to free their people instead of merely racing, even if they're the fastest...
Hmm never read that much into it, but if they caldari are so into racing, why do most caldari ships handle like a veldspar roid?
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Matt Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.22 22:52:00 -
[257]
Edited by: Matt Ivresse on 22/07/2004 22:56:01 Because they're primarily military ships, not racing ships...
See, the caldari also have a great military history, where they use long range force using missiles and rail-guns unlike the other races, such as the Minmatar ships who use quick hit-and-run tactics with their overwhelming speed. The ships are therefore designed as such. Racing was never the intention when designing these ships... ---------------------------
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Matt Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.22 22:52:00 -
[258]
Edited by: Matt Ivresse on 22/07/2004 22:56:01 Because they're primarily military ships, not racing ships...
See, the caldari also have a great military history, where they use long range force using missiles and rail-guns unlike the other races, such as the Minmatar ships who use quick hit-and-run tactics with their overwhelming speed. The ships are therefore designed as such. Racing was never the intention when designing these ships... ---------------------------
DUI Racing - The PREMIER Racing corporation for Racing fans out there in the world of |

Ooswa Glantuula
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Posted - 2004.07.23 06:57:00 -
[259]
Edited by: Ooswa Glantuula on 23/07/2004 06:58:36
Originally by: Hanns
Originally by: Matt Ivresse Hanns, if you read the Caldari race description, you'll see that the Caldari are heavily involved into racing and gambling, so this suits them down to a tee. With the Minmatars, I think they'd be more involved in combat trying to free their people instead of merely racing, even if they're the fastest...
Hmm never read that much into it, but if they caldari are so into racing, why do most caldari ships handle like a veldspar roid?
You see Formula One? Nerfed to hell for safety reasons! You should have seen their ships 4 years ago...
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Ooswa Glantuula
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Posted - 2004.07.23 06:57:00 -
[260]
Edited by: Ooswa Glantuula on 23/07/2004 06:58:36
Originally by: Hanns
Originally by: Matt Ivresse Hanns, if you read the Caldari race description, you'll see that the Caldari are heavily involved into racing and gambling, so this suits them down to a tee. With the Minmatars, I think they'd be more involved in combat trying to free their people instead of merely racing, even if they're the fastest...
Hmm never read that much into it, but if they caldari are so into racing, why do most caldari ships handle like a veldspar roid?
You see Formula One? Nerfed to hell for safety reasons! You should have seen their ships 4 years ago...
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GALAGA
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Posted - 2004.07.23 07:56:00 -
[261]
Oveur, I believe that 2 mwd's should be allowed in the race. For one, it will kill the cap on alot of ships that use 2 and they will have to make 2 warps through a system on some jumps, which will slow them down.
Also, if i get to a camped gate, i will want to hit all of my mwd's and abs at once to quickly get out of range of any enemies and i need that option for defense in a frigate.
Best of luck to you all, You're gonna need it. :) ----------------------------------------------- "The Light shineth in the darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not." |

GALAGA
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Posted - 2004.07.23 07:56:00 -
[262]
Oveur, I believe that 2 mwd's should be allowed in the race. For one, it will kill the cap on alot of ships that use 2 and they will have to make 2 warps through a system on some jumps, which will slow them down.
Also, if i get to a camped gate, i will want to hit all of my mwd's and abs at once to quickly get out of range of any enemies and i need that option for defense in a frigate.
Best of luck to you all, You're gonna need it. :) ----------------------------------------------- "The Light shineth in the darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not." |

Monty Burns
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:57:00 -
[263]
Originally by: GALAGA
Oveur, I believe that 2 mwd's should be allowed in the race. For one, it will kill the cap on alot of ships that use 2 and they will have to make 2 warps through a system on some jumps, which will slow them down.
Also, if i get to a camped gate, i will want to hit all of my mwd's and abs at once to quickly get out of range of any enemies and i need that option for defense in a frigate.
Best of luck to you all, You're gonna need it. :)
Agreed. We would like the flexibility. Galaga, try out the speed diference from 1 to 2 MWD's when approaching a gate in a 'ceptor, it makes feck all diference mate. There seems to be some logic to calculate distance to go and maximum speed including acceleration and deceleration times/distance. Granted the deceleration calculations don't work too well, but you do seem to hit a top speed that a second MWD don't help. There are of course other ways to increase your speed 
Sadly I really do think this will be a comp between who has the fastest load/reload time for systems BUT ... that of course depends on dodging smartbombs etc <grin>
Best of luck! Although it won't help you ... muwaaaaaahhhahaha! Darwin 4tw
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Monty Burns
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:57:00 -
[264]
Originally by: GALAGA
Oveur, I believe that 2 mwd's should be allowed in the race. For one, it will kill the cap on alot of ships that use 2 and they will have to make 2 warps through a system on some jumps, which will slow them down.
Also, if i get to a camped gate, i will want to hit all of my mwd's and abs at once to quickly get out of range of any enemies and i need that option for defense in a frigate.
Best of luck to you all, You're gonna need it. :)
Agreed. We would like the flexibility. Galaga, try out the speed diference from 1 to 2 MWD's when approaching a gate in a 'ceptor, it makes feck all diference mate. There seems to be some logic to calculate distance to go and maximum speed including acceleration and deceleration times/distance. Granted the deceleration calculations don't work too well, but you do seem to hit a top speed that a second MWD don't help. There are of course other ways to increase your speed 
Sadly I really do think this will be a comp between who has the fastest load/reload time for systems BUT ... that of course depends on dodging smartbombs etc <grin>
Best of luck! Although it won't help you ... muwaaaaaahhhahaha! Darwin 4tw
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AFortuna
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Posted - 2004.07.23 13:10:00 -
[265]
Will the bug were dual mwding towards a stargate slows your ship to a halt be fixed before hand? Or is this an intended feature? 
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AFortuna
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Posted - 2004.07.23 13:10:00 -
[266]
Will the bug were dual mwding towards a stargate slows your ship to a halt be fixed before hand? Or is this an intended feature? 
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Zaque Zundu
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Posted - 2004.07.23 19:53:00 -
[267]
I would love to see this the way they are going to introduce jumpdrives, or something like them (maybe mobile jumpgates). Caldari State did get the favorable stading with Jove from that parts collection. And it would stop all the insta-jump bmers, as well as play havoc with any blockakers cause you would first have to scout the systems then set the blockade. Makes it a bit harder to do if the route isn't know beforehand.
Just my two cents. Zaque Zundu
Without chemistry there would be no life. Without research we would know nothing. Without Eve we would all be lost. |

Zaque Zundu
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Posted - 2004.07.23 19:53:00 -
[268]
I would love to see this the way they are going to introduce jumpdrives, or something like them (maybe mobile jumpgates). Caldari State did get the favorable stading with Jove from that parts collection. And it would stop all the insta-jump bmers, as well as play havoc with any blockakers cause you would first have to scout the systems then set the blockade. Makes it a bit harder to do if the route isn't know beforehand.
Just my two cents. Zaque Zundu
Without chemistry there would be no life. Without research we would know nothing. Without Eve we would all be lost. |

DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.07.24 02:15:00 -
[269]
Edited by: DJTheBaron on 24/07/2004 13:44:06
Originally by: Joshua Calvert Is clone-jumping allowed?
I hope not or else Omega Corp. are dead certs to win 
sch
i hope covert ops may not compete, their warp speed is insane
also can someone please clarify, do i need to start getting a good standing with these corps to race for them, unfortunatley my only lai dai standings are with lai dai security and i dont want to do courrious missions with lai dai? my state standing is getting close to a 6 while my navy close to a 9, damit why cant the navy compete! lol
and for example could you have a high standing with lai dai security instead of lai dai, and cbd corp says sell devision on the logo but just standard cbd corp on the selection? __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.07.24 02:15:00 -
[270]
Edited by: DJTheBaron on 24/07/2004 13:44:06
Originally by: Joshua Calvert Is clone-jumping allowed?
I hope not or else Omega Corp. are dead certs to win 
sch
i hope covert ops may not compete, their warp speed is insane
also can someone please clarify, do i need to start getting a good standing with these corps to race for them, unfortunatley my only lai dai standings are with lai dai security and i dont want to do courrious missions with lai dai? my state standing is getting close to a 6 while my navy close to a 9, damit why cant the navy compete! lol
and for example could you have a high standing with lai dai security instead of lai dai, and cbd corp says sell devision on the logo but just standard cbd corp on the selection? __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

Beringe
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Posted - 2004.07.24 16:24:00 -
[271]
This is brilliant! I can already envision all the great scenarios that might take place in such a race, never mind the politics... *swoons*
Too bad I won't be able to participate. I'll have to make the best of it, by watching from afar.
In which case, I demand screenshots, FRAPS and plenty of in-character descriptions/news items! Damnit!  ------------------------------------------- "My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
"No, it's none of your business." |

Beringe
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Posted - 2004.07.24 16:24:00 -
[272]
This is brilliant! I can already envision all the great scenarios that might take place in such a race, never mind the politics... *swoons*
Too bad I won't be able to participate. I'll have to make the best of it, by watching from afar.
In which case, I demand screenshots, FRAPS and plenty of in-character descriptions/news items! Damnit!  ------------------------------------------- "My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
"No, it's none of your business." |

Rhia
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Posted - 2004.07.24 17:47:00 -
[273]
Doesnt it make sense to tell only the racers were they are going, and after about 1/2-2/3 of the race is complete you tell the public? Because if your going along the edge of the universe, and your probably going to end in empire, it gives plenty of time for people to get to the end zone, and makes it harder for campers.
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Rhia
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Posted - 2004.07.24 17:47:00 -
[274]
Doesnt it make sense to tell only the racers were they are going, and after about 1/2-2/3 of the race is complete you tell the public? Because if your going along the edge of the universe, and your probably going to end in empire, it gives plenty of time for people to get to the end zone, and makes it harder for campers.
------------------------------------- It is curious that physical courage should be so common in the world and moral courage so rare. -Mark Twain |

Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.25 00:25:00 -
[275]
Could one of the Devs answer my original question about who to discuss the betting element I'd like to introduce to the event with, please? ---------------------
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.25 00:25:00 -
[276]
Could one of the Devs answer my original question about who to discuss the betting element I'd like to introduce to the event with, please? ---------------------
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DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.07.25 00:29:00 -
[277]
i'd like more information on exact race standing requirements for characters, must they be in the highest ranking standings of the corp they select or is state standing enough, and do working for corps afiliated with the race hosts count, e.g. lai dai security for lai dai, and i noticed the sell devision logo is used but the main corp is the one u apply for can someone please explain or am i dense __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.07.25 00:29:00 -
[278]
i'd like more information on exact race standing requirements for characters, must they be in the highest ranking standings of the corp they select or is state standing enough, and do working for corps afiliated with the race hosts count, e.g. lai dai security for lai dai, and i noticed the sell devision logo is used but the main corp is the one u apply for can someone please explain or am i dense __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

Zipoldy
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Posted - 2004.07.25 11:14:00 -
[279]
Just a quick question, Frigates/Interceptors and prolly most Cruisers will die if Smartbombed by 2-3 BS at a gate. BS on the otherhand can take that but takes forever to turn around 10-15sec so webbed/missiled and dead.... Now it's time to explaine how the race will ever survive 120-150 jumps 
This is thought as without Warp Disruptors... getting them in to the calculation will not make it look any nicer 
Zipoldy
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Zipoldy
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Posted - 2004.07.25 11:14:00 -
[280]
Just a quick question, Frigates/Interceptors and prolly most Cruisers will die if Smartbombed by 2-3 BS at a gate. BS on the otherhand can take that but takes forever to turn around 10-15sec so webbed/missiled and dead.... Now it's time to explaine how the race will ever survive 120-150 jumps 
This is thought as without Warp Disruptors... getting them in to the calculation will not make it look any nicer 
Zipoldy
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Matt Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.25 11:35:00 -
[281]
Zipoldy, Sinist has already been going on about this, the answer as the Dev's have already stated is that the devs have already figured out about all of this, and they're likely to implement changes. Just wait and see what happens. ---------------------------
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Matt Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.25 11:35:00 -
[282]
Zipoldy, Sinist has already been going on about this, the answer as the Dev's have already stated is that the devs have already figured out about all of this, and they're likely to implement changes. Just wait and see what happens. ---------------------------
DUI Racing - The PREMIER Racing corporation for Racing fans out there in the world of |

kjwise
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Posted - 2004.07.27 09:54:00 -
[283]
I have full faith in the events team. Even if everyone gets ganked it's just going to make the race take a bit longer.. the one that gets through first will win, who cares if it's not the ship he started out it 
Thank you Vel Kyri for making the reading more bearable, and Ivresse or whatever, get a clue and look for the info, kierons mail should be listed somewhere or you can just mail someone at CCP. Do some research.
Sinister, all I can say is. WOW. You must have so much more free time now that you don't post here anymore. 
And now for some questions: I registered for the race but started collecting standing for my chosen corp afterwards, will that affect the application? Or will all applications be reviewed at the end of the application period? ------------------------------- Be fair, share and try to care. Podkill the podkillers! |

kjwise
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Posted - 2004.07.27 09:54:00 -
[284]
I have full faith in the events team. Even if everyone gets ganked it's just going to make the race take a bit longer.. the one that gets through first will win, who cares if it's not the ship he started out it 
Thank you Vel Kyri for making the reading more bearable, and Ivresse or whatever, get a clue and look for the info, kierons mail should be listed somewhere or you can just mail someone at CCP. Do some research.
Sinister, all I can say is. WOW. You must have so much more free time now that you don't post here anymore. 
And now for some questions: I registered for the race but started collecting standing for my chosen corp afterwards, will that affect the application? Or will all applications be reviewed at the end of the application period? ------------------------------- Be fair, share and try to care. Podkill the podkillers! |

Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.07.27 10:31:00 -
[285]
Applications will be reviewed at the end of the recruiting time, you have until then to pump those standings up \o/
---- Nebulai Vice-Admiral Events Team Interstellar Services Department
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Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.07.27 10:31:00 -
[286]
Applications will be reviewed at the end of the recruiting time, you have until then to pump those standings up \o/
---- Nebulai Vice-Admiral Events Team Interstellar Services Department
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:59:00 -
[287]
Yes but is it 'CBD Sell Division' or plain old 'CBD' 
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2004.07.27 13:59:00 -
[288]
Yes but is it 'CBD Sell Division' or plain old 'CBD' 
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.27 18:26:00 -
[289]
Edited by: Ivresse on 27/07/2004 18:30:49 Firstly kjwise, I can't just go and email anyone about my request, I'd look a complete idiot if I did email it to the wrong person. So I'd like to know who to talk to first before doing the actual talking.
Secondly, I have looked, and the only email I found was [email protected], which isn't exactly the best place to send my request now, is it?
Thirdly, if you're so smart, maybe you'd like to look for it as well, I'm sure you can show how great at research you are.
Finally, do you honestly think I have the time to just explore the entire site to look for an email address? I'd rather get an answer from someone quickly instead of having to waste my time searching for something which may not be the right person.
Oh, and cut it out with saying stuff like 'get a clue', you sound like a little kid... ---------------------
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.27 18:26:00 -
[290]
Edited by: Ivresse on 27/07/2004 18:30:49 Firstly kjwise, I can't just go and email anyone about my request, I'd look a complete idiot if I did email it to the wrong person. So I'd like to know who to talk to first before doing the actual talking.
Secondly, I have looked, and the only email I found was [email protected], which isn't exactly the best place to send my request now, is it?
Thirdly, if you're so smart, maybe you'd like to look for it as well, I'm sure you can show how great at research you are.
Finally, do you honestly think I have the time to just explore the entire site to look for an email address? I'd rather get an answer from someone quickly instead of having to waste my time searching for something which may not be the right person.
Oh, and cut it out with saying stuff like 'get a clue', you sound like a little kid... ---------------------
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.07.28 01:09:00 -
[291]
Looks like an agent mission runner + good security rating people only event.
Wtg CCP. -- Stories: #1 --
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.07.28 01:09:00 -
[292]
Looks like an agent mission runner + good security rating people only event.
Wtg CCP. -- Stories: #1 --
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.07.28 01:13:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Nebulai o) The race is open to anyone with a good caldari standing, regardless of race. Only enemies of the Caldari state need not apply.
Add the player pirates to the list of not wished participants.
Add the non agent mission runners to the list of not wished particpants.
Oh wait, you already did that.
Doh. -- Stories: #1 --
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.07.28 01:13:00 -
[294]
Originally by: Nebulai o) The race is open to anyone with a good caldari standing, regardless of race. Only enemies of the Caldari state need not apply.
Add the player pirates to the list of not wished participants.
Add the non agent mission runners to the list of not wished particpants.
Oh wait, you already did that.
Doh. -- Stories: #1 --
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Amarula
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:31:00 -
[295]
Oh shut it, it's your own stupid fault for being a pirate, isn't it? ---------------
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Amarula
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:31:00 -
[296]
Oh shut it, it's your own stupid fault for being a pirate, isn't it? ---------------
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Reptar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:50:00 -
[297]
is there any point in me entering even though i have + standing wiht caldari, yet -3.0 standing to concord(i have not been a pirate for several months). Is ther any point in me entering as we may have to go into 1.0 ie New Caldari
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Reptar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:50:00 -
[298]
is there any point in me entering even though i have + standing wiht caldari, yet -3.0 standing to concord(i have not been a pirate for several months). Is ther any point in me entering as we may have to go into 1.0 ie New Caldari
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Aelita
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Posted - 2004.07.29 18:53:00 -
[299]
Technical question to championship. I would like to work for Ishukone, but I'm confused there are two corporations Ishukone corporation and Ishukone Watch.
Which one is right one?
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Aelita
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Posted - 2004.07.29 18:53:00 -
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Technical question to championship. I would like to work for Ishukone, but I'm confused there are two corporations Ishukone corporation and Ishukone Watch.
Which one is right one?
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kjwise
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Posted - 2004.07.30 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ivresse Edited by: Ivresse on 27/07/2004 18:30:49 Firstly kjwise, I can't just go and email anyone about my request, I'd look a complete idiot if I did email it to the wrong person. So I'd like to know who to talk to first before doing the actual talking.
Secondly, I have looked, and the only email I found was [email protected], which isn't exactly the best place to send my request now, is it?
Thirdly, if you're so smart, maybe you'd like to look for it as well, I'm sure you can show how great at research you are.
Finally, do you honestly think I have the time to just explore the entire site to look for an email address? I'd rather get an answer from someone quickly instead of having to waste my time searching for something which may not be the right person.
Oh, and cut it out with saying stuff like 'get a clue', you sound like a little kid...
Yes... I would then think that [email protected] would be where you get INFO on who to talk to. And like I said, do your own work and find this out yourself.
Originally by: Sally Looks like an agent mission runner + good security rating people only event.
Wtg CCP. --- Add the player pirates to the list of not wished participants.
Add the non agent mission runners to the list of not wished particpants.
Oh wait, you already did that.
Doh.
erm.. what exactly is your problem with this? Why would anyone but a player that has spent time making his in-game political stance obvious want to take part in this race as a contestant? And it will likely go through 0.0 so it will be the biggest gankfest ever for you piraty types. What exactly is the problem with that? ------------------------------- Be fair, share and try to care. Podkill the podkillers! |

kjwise
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Posted - 2004.07.30 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ivresse Edited by: Ivresse on 27/07/2004 18:30:49 Firstly kjwise, I can't just go and email anyone about my request, I'd look a complete idiot if I did email it to the wrong person. So I'd like to know who to talk to first before doing the actual talking.
Secondly, I have looked, and the only email I found was [email protected], which isn't exactly the best place to send my request now, is it?
Thirdly, if you're so smart, maybe you'd like to look for it as well, I'm sure you can show how great at research you are.
Finally, do you honestly think I have the time to just explore the entire site to look for an email address? I'd rather get an answer from someone quickly instead of having to waste my time searching for something which may not be the right person.
Oh, and cut it out with saying stuff like 'get a clue', you sound like a little kid...
Yes... I would then think that [email protected] would be where you get INFO on who to talk to. And like I said, do your own work and find this out yourself.
Originally by: Sally Looks like an agent mission runner + good security rating people only event.
Wtg CCP. --- Add the player pirates to the list of not wished participants.
Add the non agent mission runners to the list of not wished particpants.
Oh wait, you already did that.
Doh.
erm.. what exactly is your problem with this? Why would anyone but a player that has spent time making his in-game political stance obvious want to take part in this race as a contestant? And it will likely go through 0.0 so it will be the biggest gankfest ever for you piraty types. What exactly is the problem with that? ------------------------------- Be fair, share and try to care. Podkill the podkillers! |

Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.30 10:42:00 -
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kjwise, maybe you should butt out of topics and requests that don't concern you then, you wouldn't look like the arrogant little git you seem to present yourself to me...
geez, why do people try to intrude on matters that don't concern them...?
Oh, and one more thing, look at the date of the post next time, I found out this info well before you started splurting rubbish from someone else who was actually more helpful than you...you simply ask and you get help. I dunno if that applies to you or anything, but... ---------------------
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Ivresse
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Posted - 2004.07.30 10:42:00 -
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kjwise, maybe you should butt out of topics and requests that don't concern you then, you wouldn't look like the arrogant little git you seem to present yourself to me...
geez, why do people try to intrude on matters that don't concern them...?
Oh, and one more thing, look at the date of the post next time, I found out this info well before you started splurting rubbish from someone else who was actually more helpful than you...you simply ask and you get help. I dunno if that applies to you or anything, but... ---------------------
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hellwarrior
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Posted - 2004.08.01 17:38:00 -
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Ohhh a race... i'm not participating -.-; Also my sec screws me over i think.
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hellwarrior
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Posted - 2004.08.01 17:38:00 -
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Ohhh a race... i'm not participating -.-; Also my sec screws me over i think.
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kjwise
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Posted - 2004.08.02 07:07:00 -
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Look Ivresse, I didn't but in, I simply stated my oppinion. You had been looking for info in this thread, info that should be easy enough to get through more direct channels than this particular thread. I had read through the whole topic and found myself irritated at your apparent helplessness to find out this stuff by yourself. I actually like your idea, I liked your initiative. I didn't mean to get you mad at me, telling people to go get a clue isn't exactly at the top of my "bad things to say" list you know. ------------------------------- Be fair, share and try to care. Podkill the podkillers! |

kjwise
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Posted - 2004.08.02 07:07:00 -
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Look Ivresse, I didn't but in, I simply stated my oppinion. You had been looking for info in this thread, info that should be easy enough to get through more direct channels than this particular thread. I had read through the whole topic and found myself irritated at your apparent helplessness to find out this stuff by yourself. I actually like your idea, I liked your initiative. I didn't mean to get you mad at me, telling people to go get a clue isn't exactly at the top of my "bad things to say" list you know. ------------------------------- Be fair, share and try to care. Podkill the podkillers! |

Sally
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Posted - 2004.08.02 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: kjwise erm.. what exactly is your problem with this? Why would anyone but a player that has spent time making his in-game political stance obvious want to take part in this race as a contestant? And it will likely go through 0.0 so it will be the biggest gankfest ever for you piraty types. What exactly is the problem with that?
Well. I am for events. They are great.
But I am against all kinds of events where some specific players are not welcome because of the way they play.
If you have a hard time understanding a basic concept like equality there is no need to find some excuses and yell at my "in-game political stance".
And I don't owe you a definition why I want to take part in this, why should I? What authority are you to ask me that? I am paying for the game the same way as the mission runners are doing it and the same way as the non pirates are doing it. This alone and only this should give me equal rights to participate in the game.
I have yet to see CCP organising a global event for pirates only. -- Stories: #1 --
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.08.02 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: kjwise erm.. what exactly is your problem with this? Why would anyone but a player that has spent time making his in-game political stance obvious want to take part in this race as a contestant? And it will likely go through 0.0 so it will be the biggest gankfest ever for you piraty types. What exactly is the problem with that?
Well. I am for events. They are great.
But I am against all kinds of events where some specific players are not welcome because of the way they play.
If you have a hard time understanding a basic concept like equality there is no need to find some excuses and yell at my "in-game political stance".
And I don't owe you a definition why I want to take part in this, why should I? What authority are you to ask me that? I am paying for the game the same way as the mission runners are doing it and the same way as the non pirates are doing it. This alone and only this should give me equal rights to participate in the game.
I have yet to see CCP organising a global event for pirates only. -- Stories: #1 --
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.08.03 11:08:00 -
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I remember that the Amarr Championships were open to pirates 
As I recall, Tank CEO was part of a team 
Join the IC! |

Orestes
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Posted - 2004.08.03 11:08:00 -
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I remember that the Amarr Championships were open to pirates 
As I recall, Tank CEO was part of a team 
Join the IC! |

Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.08.03 11:29:00 -
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Closing this thread.. if you have questions ask them in the new sticky.
---- Nebulai Vice-Admiral Events Team Interstellar Services Department
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Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.08.03 11:29:00 -
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Closing this thread.. if you have questions ask them in the new sticky.
---- Nebulai Vice-Admiral Events Team Interstellar Services Department
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