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Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 1157	Posted - 2012.06.04 09:25:00 - [361] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: Wait are you saying that the increase in ship prices is somehow related to the incursion nerf and not the removal of drone alloys and massive overhaul of loot tables Darth believes that WH inhabitants returning to running WHs is a bad thing, and that we should for whatever reason be opposed to it. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Mr Kidd Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 622	Posted - 2012.06.04 09:58:00 - [362] - Quote Simi Kusoni wrote: Mr Bigwinky wrote: saltrock0000 wrote: Really???? The only "risk" in a wormhole is you forget to hit that scan button every 5-10 seconds and look for combat probes. Hahahaha.. okay confirming that I need combats to catch you. Don't worry about the HICs we have on the wormholes or that dictor we warped to your POS, alligned to where you are and cloaked. You're not safe. Not ever. Even if you do manage to make it to your POS, if you acted this way when I connected to your system, i'd just remove your f*cking POS, not many WH entities take too kindly to pansy-ass farmers who don't fight. Look on the bright side, some of these imbeciles who think you need combats in wormholes are probably going to be trying out wh space soon. Time to farm me some free c1/c2 tengu kills. No doubt. It's been weeks since I've had to use combats, and that's only because someone left a badger in space somewhere. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX!
Seishi Maru doMAL S.A. 19	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:13:00 - [363] - Quote Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: It seems it's not clear enough why WHs income is fine. Incursions pay so extremely well (and much more than L4) because OH MY GOSH you had to find a proper fleet. End of. C4+ (where money is to be made) WHs begin from finding a proper fleet and then add all the risks of 0.0 space and then add unique risks of no local chat space and then add the nightmare logistics, and then add the AWFUL "live at POS" (only those who had to do it know the full extent of PAIN of it) and then add Sleepers AI. And if you get podded, you are boned. The 12 inches pillar in the ass kind of boned. To be fair Its not so easy to gather a 20 people fleet for assaults on anytime but a 2 hour interval every day. And HW fleets nowadays are very hard to form up. The risk on incursions is that you are thrusting unknown people! You get into a fleet not knowing if those guys will keep you properly repaired etc, and very few corps have enough people to run HQs by themselves. I already lost a navy apoc with faction stuff because of unprepared fleet members that kept spamming need shield need cap as fast as possible and made the logis miss my true need armor broadcast. We do also loose ships as expensive as wormhole ones. Less than in wormhole sure.. but in a much more furstrating and idiotic way. Wormhole risk is larger, but you have more oportunity of interesting stuff other than incursion sit posting your fit in chat for 2-3 hours until you get a a fleet ( I am no kidding, since the nerf that is the time you might have to wait). Wormhole On my view are ok. But ccp shoudl introduce MOREt3 stuff so that the market on wormhole products become more stable and complex. This woudl allow for mroe peopel farming but with increased demands to keep the income high.
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 760	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:22:00 - [364] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: No I am saying the DECREASE in the price of T3 ships is directly related to the Incursion nerf I do believe that other ship prices increases are due the removal of drone alloys and massive overhaul of loot tables t3s are cheaper woooot eh
Apolyon I AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 64	Posted - 2012.06.04 15:25:00 - [365] - Quote T3s cheaper --> more ppl buy them -->> quality demand rise. I dont see anything bad thing about this. Darth, move on, dont need to show us again and again how butthurt you are
Chokichi Ozuwara Royal One Piece Corporation Deadly Unknown 257	Posted - 2012.06.04 15:39:00 - [366] - Quote It's pretty obvious Darth hasn't spent a day in a WH yet. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
Darth Tickles Dark Sun Consortium 610	Posted - 2012.06.04 16:07:00 - [367] - Quote I'm def doing WH spelunking next time I actually get a chance to play some solid Eve again. Sounds so cool and different.
N'maro Makari The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative 80	Posted - 2012.06.04 16:12:00 - [368] - Quote I too enjoy walking down the streets of Edinburgh in my mankini whilst pounding a tambourine. N'maro Makari Director of Public Relations The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
Rahmiro Wormhole Exploration Crew R.E.P.O. 7	Posted - 2012.06.04 17:06:00 - [369] - Quote Why ask for a nerf? Just cometh to the fountain of isk that is wormholes. There are plenty of empty C5's and C6's for you and yours to exploit! Drink, drink from the fountain! No one lurks. No ones sees as you quench your thirst and fill you belly. WH corps welcome you.
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance 200	Posted - 2012.06.04 17:12:00 - [370] - Quote Endeavour Starfleet wrote: There is one thing that needs to be nerfed if all these others go into effect.. AFK Cloaking. Not sure about Wormholes tho. Here we go again.... AFK cloaking has never been a problem; they are no threat. The active cloakers are the ones you need to worry about.. but you can't get away with a nerf demand for active play so you demonize the mechanic claimiing that AFK cloaking is out of control and they are harming you. Anyone see a pattern? "miners are all bots.. so lets nerf them and kill them with wild abandon." "Gee that worked so well lets try it with cloaking." Remove the cloaked from local unless they chat.. no one should know there are cloakers AFK or otherwise using free local intel. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG]
BoBoZoBo MGroup9 20	Posted - 2012.06.04 19:01:00 - [371] - Quote *HAHA - You're comparing HiSec to W-Space?!?* the problem is that I dont need to spend 700million a month to keep a large POS in HiSec to protect my earnings while exposing myself to an environment deadlier than nullsec and WITHOUT local to help notify me of bad company. Go spend a month there, then we can consider your proposal. BoBoZoBoCEO of TheRealm
Tasiv Deka Ganked And T Bagged 42	Posted - 2012.06.04 19:07:00 - [372] - Quote BoBoZoBo wrote: *HAHA - You're comparing HiSec to W-Space?!?* the problem is that I dont need to spend 700million a month to keep a large POS in HiSec to protect my earnings while exposing myself to an environment deadlier than nullsec and WITHOUT local to help notify me of bad company. Go spend a month there, then we can consider your proposal. You know that brings up a good point... i will be okay with a decrease in blue loot prices if and only if ccp puts ice into WH space and does so at a relatively normal rate My TLDRs are usually still pretty long... so buck up and read it because usually when someone talks that much theyre either a politician or they have something important to say... sometimes both... but not usually
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 223	Posted - 2012.06.08 06:37:00 - [373] - Quote Tasiv Deka wrote: BoBoZoBo wrote: *HAHA - You're comparing HiSec to W-Space?!?* the problem is that I dont need to spend 700million a month to keep a large POS in HiSec to protect my earnings while exposing myself to an environment deadlier than nullsec and WITHOUT local to help notify me of bad company. Go spend a month there, then we can consider your proposal. You know that brings up a good point... i will be okay with a decrease in blue loot prices if and only if ccp puts ice into WH space and does so at a relatively normal rate lol putting Ice fields in wormhole space would be 1 stop closer to just making wormhole space into its own server shard CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
Disregard That Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 57	Posted - 2012.06.08 06:44:00 - [374] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Tasiv Deka wrote: BoBoZoBo wrote: *HAHA - You're comparing HiSec to W-Space?!?* the problem is that I dont need to spend 700million a month to keep a large POS in HiSec to protect my earnings while exposing myself to an environment deadlier than nullsec and WITHOUT local to help notify me of bad company. Go spend a month there, then we can consider your proposal. You know that brings up a good point... i will be okay with a decrease in blue loot prices if and only if ccp puts ice into WH space and does so at a relatively normal rate lol putting Ice fields in wormhole space would be 1 stop closer to just making wormhole space into its own server shard 3000 star systems without water ice floating in any belts, anywhere? Yeah, that's reasonable.
Victoria Sin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2012.06.08 06:46:00 - [375] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Digital Messiah wrote: 1. they are not a faucet, because they do not bring in more isk as a number they simply use what is already floating around. . bull crap SLEEPER BLUE LOOT is a ISK faucet pure & simple because it injects ISK into Eve through NPC buy orders! But... CCP must know what the isk sink v isk faucet ratio is for WH. I mean ships destroyed, POS's abandoned, etc.
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 1190	Posted - 2012.06.08 06:47:00 - [376] - Quote BoBoZoBo wrote: *HAHA - You're comparing HiSec to W-Space?!?* the problem is that I dont need to spend 700million a month to keep a large POS in HiSec to protect my earnings while exposing myself to an environment deadlier than nullsec and WITHOUT local to help notify me of bad company. Go spend a month there, then we can consider your proposal. Hmm, I think wh space being more dangerous is questionable. Sure, in null you may lose a few less ships if you are careful, but as a small corp inside a month you'll have had your POS torn down and you'll probably have attracted at least one person like me. Who will leave an alt in your home system 24/7, preventing your members from PvEing indefinitely. Also, Darth, I admire your fanaticism but I worry for your mental stability. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
DarthNefarius Minmatar Heavy Industries 223	Posted - 2012.06.08 06:50:00 - [377] - Quote Victoria Sin wrote: DarthNefarius wrote: Digital Messiah wrote: 1. they are not a faucet, because they do not bring in more isk as a number they simply use what is already floating around. . bull crap SLEEPER BLUE LOOT is a ISK faucet pure & simple because it injects ISK into Eve through NPC buy orders! But... CCP must know what the isk sink v isk faucet ratio is for WH. I mean ships destroyed, POS's abandoned, etc. The ISK faucet right now I bet 100 million ISK is 3X greater then Incursions with blue loot after the Escalation NERF. The Materials puping out of WH's must be huge in the orm o PI & nano ribbons. CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 1190	Posted - 2012.06.08 07:01:00 - [378] - Quote ABLOOBLOO I think CCP should nerf incursions again just so we can have more threads like these. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Tasiv Deka Ganked And T Bagged 43	Posted - 2012.06.08 07:03:00 - [379] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Tasiv Deka wrote: BoBoZoBo wrote: *HAHA - You're comparing HiSec to W-Space?!?* the problem is that I dont need to spend 700million a month to keep a large POS in HiSec to protect my earnings while exposing myself to an environment deadlier than nullsec and WITHOUT local to help notify me of bad company. Go spend a month there, then we can consider your proposal. You know that brings up a good point... i will be okay with a decrease in blue loot prices if and only if ccp puts ice into WH space and does so at a relatively normal rate lol putting Ice fields in wormhole space would be 1 stop closer to just making wormhole space into its own server shard hah no i still love coming out to low and null to wreak havoc... plus gotta sell and buy other stuff My TLDRs are usually still pretty long... so buck up and read it because usually when someone talks that much theyre either a politician or they have something important to say... sometimes both... but not usually
Stalafur State War Academy Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.06.08 07:09:00 - [380] - Quote Nooo, not the wormhole! They try to burns the precious! Scuttles into his wormhole hermit pos
Apolyon I AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 73	Posted - 2012.06.08 07:28:00 - [381] - Quote Simi Kusoni wrote: ABLOOBLOO I think CCP should nerf incursions again just so we can have more threads like these. that'd be too harsh. they should just leave it as it is now since all the isk farmers, whiny carebears are gone. what left is a real community run it for fun and socialization
Alice Saki Analog Folk SRS. 98	Posted - 2012.06.08 07:52:00 - [382] - Quote Don't **** with my Wormhole. http://tinyurl.com/RifterDeath My Rifter Adventure in Null
catinboots Vintage heavy industries 3	Posted - 2012.06.08 08:00:00 - [383] - Quote DarthNefarius wrote: Incursions getting nerfed & drone alloys getting nerfed why are the blue loot NPC buy orders not getting nerfed to to help with the inflation?!?! The Pax Amarrian nerf was a good precendent of a NPC sell order which was balanced next the sleeper blue loot NPC buy order should be cut in the name of balance. A possible bounty 10% cut is being thrown around too by CCP Soundwave. Only one currenntly smelling like a rose is the Wormhole residents with the Escalation to Inferno. Lets have the current inflation mean the end fo Empire NPC's no longer being able to affford to buy sleeper crap (NPC buy orders) which is non ribbons (blue loot) which acually adds something to Eve & empire ( at least with Incursions Capsuleers are providing a service to Empire residents what has blueloot added to Empire's security? ) . LETS HAVE EVERYONE FEEL THE PAIN OF ESCALATING INFERNO[:!: A pox on EVERYONE'S house are you suggesting WH dellers are having a easy time ? Pardon me but you need to join a Dedicated WH corp , because honestly i think you have no clue what so ever what you are talking about So this is permanence
Alice Saki Analog Folk SRS. 99	Posted - 2012.06.08 08:06:00 - [384] - Quote So... Do you Spam D-scan when you run incursions? I did not think so. http://tinyurl.com/RifterDeath My Rifter Adventure in Null
Stalafur State War Academy Caldari State 8	Posted - 2012.06.08 08:41:00 - [385] - Quote Wormholes are practically twice as hard, you have to deal with rats that switch targets, Drain cap, warp scram and you have to scan down sites to even warp to them. There is no local, no one is daft enough to speak in local. It is a element of surprise but extremely sucks if three bombs uncloak and bomb your men. D-Scan? no feasible on cloakers. So I can safely say that Wormhole is pretty hard and twice the risk but the rewards are plentiful.
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 1190	Posted - 2012.06.08 10:08:00 - [386] - Quote Stalafur wrote: Wormholes are practically twice as hard, you have to deal with rats that switch targets, Drain cap, warp scram and you have to scan down sites to even warp to them. There is no local, no one is daft enough to speak in local. It is a element of surprise but extremely sucks if three bombs uncloak and bomb your men. D-Scan? no feasible on cloakers. So I can safely say that Wormhole is pretty hard and twice the risk but the rewards are plentiful. Am I the only one that chats in local in WHs? "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Godfrey Silvarna Stargates and Smuggler Barons 15	Posted - 2012.06.08 10:33:00 - [387] - Quote So much delicious butthurt, decorated with tasty tears. Sorry, but the risk/reward ratio in vanguard incursions was completely broken. Now it has been repaired and you will just have to deal with it. Getting out of highsec might be a good start.
aoe dps Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.06.08 10:36:00 - [388] - Quote nothing makes me happier than to see a 15+ page troll thread :D common guys, this was all bull troll's billy goat gruff from page one! i am a posting alt.
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 1190	Posted - 2012.06.08 10:45:00 - [389] - Quote aoe dps wrote: nothing makes me happier than to see a 15+ page troll thread :D common guys, this was all bull troll's billy goat gruff from page one! View Darth's post history, he isn't a troll. Just a bit fixated on vanguards and ISK. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
aoe dps Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.06.08 11:03:00 - [390] - Quote ill take your word for it, over reading. man I'm cool looking i am a posting alt. "He doesn't believe in taking into consideration any facts that might detract from his argument"

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