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Elizabeth vonStrauss
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Posted - 2009.01.10 16:45:00 -
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Hi guys..
lets do some LVL5 char EFT whoring for a second. This is comparison between two tier3 BSs, one from the "highest damage point blank" race called Ghayllente and one from "armor tanking beast with unlimited optimal" race called Amarr.
I know that some of u guys will just say: EFT is not for comparing in reality, EFT is missing something that real pew pew has or other stuff..
I just wanna prove the point, that gallente race became obsolete.
Lets look at two fittings (biggest weapons, active tanked, t2 close range ammo,empire station hugging/no need for mwd..): [Abaddon, ganky] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Large Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 True Sansha Warp Scrambler Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Nanobot Accelerator I
Ogre II x3
stats on lvl5 char without any other bonuses: 1120 dps with 15+10 range with conflag (yes, conflag, with amarr multis u get 8dps less with same range) 10k of armor, 80k of EHP, 431 dps tanked everything fits..
and this one: [Hyperion, ganky] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Large Armor Repairer II
[empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot]
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Nanobot Accelerator I
Ogre II x4
stats on lvl5 char without any other bonuses: 1190dps with 6.8+6.3 range with VOID L 10K of armor, 71K of EHP, 444 dps tanked.
soo...conclusion? Abaddon can hit up to 25km, hyp can only up to 13km. Abaddon has more EHP and almost same dps tanked. Hyp does 70dps more.. !!AND!! Hyp CANNOT fit anything else into mids except some EW, thus running out of cap after 2,5minutes, while Abaddon can run everything until it has charges in cargohold..
And tracking really isnt so much different..0.027 on hyp against 0.021 on abaddon.
Only noticable difference is that hpy can go 121m/s and abaddon only 98m/s but that is not usefull, coz we are meant to stay still and just deliver dps and tank some meanwhile..
What do u guys say? |

Sarkiss
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.10 16:46:00 -
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So your saying the Hyperion is crap? We know. |

Elizabeth vonStrauss
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Posted - 2009.01.10 16:58:00 -
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well, even mega cannot cope with this monster.. |

Katarlia Simov
Minmatar Cowboys From Hell
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Posted - 2009.01.10 17:00:00 -
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I'd say you were fairly unlikely to see abbadon fits like that. Although 1000 dps is possible, most usual fits drop heat sinks for armor plates to improve on the buffer. I'd definitely say your abbadon fit would be using trimarks to be more in line with 'normal' fits.
I agree the hype is completely meh and thats just by comparison to the mega and the domi. Just sadly there isn't much that could be done without making it way too awesome. Its a cruel little world. The buffer is king. |

Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2009.01.10 17:10:00 -
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While your conclusion that Gallente blaster battleships are now generally outperformed by other ships is reasonable, the fits you used to support your conclusion are pure comedy. |

Cyb3r Thr3at
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2009.01.10 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: Cyb3r Thr3at on 10/01/2009 17:30:44 Mega can fit 5 heavy drones ya know.. try that fit wit x5 Sentry Drones for the Mega.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 17:32:00 -
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I stopped reading at Conflagration L.
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Letifer Deus
A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.10 17:33:00 -
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lol @ putting nanobots and aux pumps on single rep setups ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |

bluebeyond
DEATHFUNK Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: bluebeyond on 10/01/2009 18:12:53 Edited by: bluebeyond on 10/01/2009 18:11:51 Your setups are ****e.
Two of my chars are Amarr and Gallente speced, both maxes out BS pilots (both dread pilots).
My hype kicked kicked the shit into my abaddon.
Learn to a) fit your ship and b) train you char for them before you spout rubbish off on the forum.
Also just fly a mega and geddon.... |

Kendon Riddick
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Posted - 2009.01.10 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Cyb3r Thr3at Edited by: Cyb3r Thr3at on 10/01/2009 18:08:03 Mega can fit 5 heavy drones ya know.. try that fit wit x5 Sentry Drones for the Mega.
an excellent sugestion if it wernt for two important facts.
1. hes talking about the hyperion not the megathron 2. hes talking about the hyperion not the megathron
sorry but it was so crucial of a piont that i had to mention it twice.
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Gram Hellfire
Eyes of the Night Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.10 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Elizabeth vonStrauss Conflagration L
i don't have to flame. the flame is inherent to the OP.
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NightmareX
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2009 21:05:17 Wow, your so funny .
So only because EFT is showing that Amarr have some higher numbers in something over Gallente, and that makes Gallente obsolete over Amarr because Amarr have some higher numbers?.
LOL, seriously dude, don't be an idiot.
And i can for sure beat that Abaddon in my Tempest any day . It doesn't help to have huge EFT numbers when your dumb as a monkey in PVP. Because a dumb PVPer loses to everything.
OMGOMG, the Abaddon have much better stats than my Tempest, it must win over my Tempest then, yeah. It's all true. |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2009 21:10:30 Wow, your so funny .
So only because EFT is showing that Amarr have some higher numbers in something over Gallente, and that makes Gallente obsolete over Amarr because Amarr have some higher numbers?.
LOL, seriously dude, don't be an idiot.
And i can for sure beat that Abaddon in my Tempest any day . It doesn't help to have huge EFT numbers when your dumb as a monkey in PVP. Because a dumb PVPer loses to everything.
OMGOMG, the Abaddon have much better stats than my Tempest, it must win over my Tempest then, yeah. It's all true.
And while i think about it. I know alot of players is like, omg why doesn't the Tempest or Megathron have the the same DPS on 25+ km range on the guns as the geddon gets etc and that.
Would there be any point to have different Battleships in EVE if all battleships have had all the same stats on all battleships?.
I don't get it either, that and the hype can fit a multispec ecm in the mids and beat the abaddon every time... not to mention I dont think anyone would fit a hype/abaddon like the op anyways.
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Elizabeth vonStrauss
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
And while i think about it. I know alot of players is like, omg why doesn't the Tempest or Megathron have the the same DPS on 25+ km range on the guns as the geddon gets etc and that.
Do tell how hyp can achieve at least 800dps at 25km..abaddon can..
Originally by: NightmareX
Would there be any point to have different Battleships in EVE if all battleships have had all the same stats on all battleships?.
Where is the point in fitting all abaddons for buffer tank and all hyps with dual LAR setups?
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Miss KillSome
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Gram Hellfire
Originally by: Elizabeth vonStrauss Conflagration L
i don't have to flame. the flame is inherent to the OP.
Would it be better if i fitted amarr navy multifrequencies?
25 less dps and same range really doesnt prove me really wrong.. ----- TCODA corporation is recruiting! TCODA is awesome! |

NightmareX
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2009 21:36:43
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton I dont think anyone would fit a hype/abaddon like the op anyways.
Yeah i agree on that.
Well, i just checked my EFT with the setup i have on my Tempest, and my Tempest beat both the Abaddon and the Hyperion in EHP LOL .
My Tempest have 91.3k EHP .
This is my tempest setup:
High-Slot:
6 x Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 2 x Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Med-Slot:
1 x 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 1 x Warp Disruptor II 1 x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 1 x ECM - Multispectral Jammer II 1 x Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Low-Slot:
1 x Large Armor Repairer II 1 x Damage Control II 2 x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1 x 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1 x Gyrostabilizer II
Rig-Slot:
3 x Trimark Armor Pump I
Drones:
3 x Ogre II or Berserker II
This is one of the most solid close range setup you can get to the Tempest today.
It have 709 DPS (787 DPS overloaded) with my skills and implants.
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Elizabeth vonStrauss
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bronson Hughes While your conclusion that Gallente blaster battleships are now generally outperformed by other ships is reasonable, the fits you used to support your conclusion are pure comedy.
Well, i really wanted to have same fittings for same doings on both ships.
Its easier to use abaddons bonus for resists with active tank, then not use hyps repping bonus on buffer tank..
And its really hard to compare stats if abaddon would be buffer tanked and hyp active tanked..
But even if we do buffer vs active tank comparison, it gets even worse. They both have to drop one MFS, abaddon gets alot of free PG left if reffits with plates, while hyp has to downgrade to ions if not to electrons to fit dual LAR plus heavy and medium cap booster to sustain all that crap..
Can dual LAR hyp outlast abaddons tons of EHP and higher DPS?
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Elizabeth vonStrauss
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Elizabeth vonStrauss on 10/01/2009 21:42:13
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2009 21:36:43
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton I dont think anyone would fit a hype/abaddon like the op anyways.
Yeah i agree on that.
Well, i just checked my EFT with the setup i have on my Tempest, and my Tempest beat both the Abaddon and the Hyperion in EHP LOL .
My Tempest have 91.3k EHP .
This is my tempest setup:
High-Slot:
6 x Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 2 x Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Med-Slot:
1 x 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 1 x Warp Disruptor II 1 x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 1 x ECM - Multispectral Jammer II 1 x Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Low-Slot:
1 x Large Armor Repairer II 1 x Damage Control II 2 x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1 x 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1 x Gyrostabilizer II
Rig-Slot:
3 x Trimark Armor Pump I
Drones:
3 x Ogre II or Berserker II
This is one of the most solid close range setup you can get to the Tempest today.
It have 709 DPS (787 DPS overloaded) with my skills and implants.
yes, but how much dps tanked? And EHP isnt fair, u have plate..exchange that plate for gyrostab and lets see your stats again..
And have in mind, u dont have required fittings for this comparison..
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NightmareX
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2009 21:42:18
Originally by: Elizabeth vonStrauss
Originally by: NightmareX
And while i think about it. I know alot of players is like, omg why doesn't the Tempest or Megathron have the the same DPS on 25+ km range on the guns as the geddon gets etc and that.
Do tell how hyp can achieve at least 800dps at 25km..abaddon can..
Well any good pvper know what to do if your in a Tempest or a Megathron, or other non-amarr bs'es against an Abaddon or a geddon if your alone against him, you don't go to 25+ km, your going very close to him and orbits him.
Even when i'm webbed, i will still do tons of more DPS on the Abaddon than the Abaddon does on my Tempest. Because when i'm very close the Abaddon wont track any good.
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Elizabeth vonStrauss
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Elizabeth vonStrauss on 10/01/2009 21:44:37
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2009 21:42:18
Originally by: Elizabeth vonStrauss
Originally by: NightmareX
And while i think about it. I know alot of players is like, omg why doesn't the Tempest or Megathron have the the same DPS on 25+ km range on the guns as the geddon gets etc and that.
Do tell how hyp can achieve at least 800dps at 25km..abaddon can..
Well any good pvper know what to do if your in a Tempest or a Megathron, or other non-amarr bs'es against an Abaddon or a geddon if your alone against him, you don't go to 25+ km, your going very close to him and orbits him.
Even when i'm webbed, i will still do tons of more DPS on the Abaddon than the Abaddon does on my Tempest. Because when i'm very close the Abaddon wont track any good.
And i tell u, it will.. he has one web, so if u orbit him without AB/MWD on, u gonna orbit him with like 70m/s or less..and he can track a BS sized ship at that velocity..
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NightmareX
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Elizabeth vonStrauss yes, but how much dps tanked? And EHP isnt fair, u have plate..exchange that plate for gyrostab and lets see your stats again..
And have in mind, u dont have required fittings for this comparison..
LOL, you don't know much about how the Tempest is i see.
The plate is the thing that helps the Tempest in most situations.
Anyways, if i take away the plate and put in another Gyro, i will get exactly 100 DPS more, also i goes from 709 to 809 DPS.
But it's better to have a ship that can last long enough so my dual heavy neuts can start to do some serious damage to the capacitor to any cap hungry battleships. That's the whole point.
And when cap hungry battleships is having problems with the cap because of my neuts, then your in 90% of the cases in big trouble.
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kessah
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:49:00 -
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That Abaddon fit is just terrible, if you not actively tankin about 800-900 dps dont bother.
With that setup with dual injectors you'd have 3 Nanobot accelerators and make that single rep take use of the nuts amount of cap its got to burn (your dual heavy t2 injectors).
Also your Hyperion setups lacking its med slots. I hope you relise how that the hyperion has 5 med slots which are incredible for versatility - such as the domi and Tempest. I wont tell you how to use them, but its damned useful.
If your target is close enough to be in scramble range (<10km) then an hyperion will hit it just as good, if not use Null.
Finally, there are several broken battleships - the Hyperion isnt one imho, tho i know others disagree, i think people need to read up on the changes in QR.
Honestly LOOK at all the changes QR brought, each new patch subtilely changes pvp. People need to keep up. |

NightmareX
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:49:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2009 21:53:00
Originally by: Elizabeth vonStrauss And i tell u, it will.. he has one web, so if u orbit him without AB/MWD on, u gonna orbit him with like 70m/s or less..and he can track a BS sized ship at that velocity..
An Abaddon can track me yeah, but how hard will he hit me if i'm orbiting him at 70-80 m/s at 500m - 1km?, that's the whole thing. And with my 80% EM resist and 67% Thermal resists, your lasers are not gonna do so much damage on me anyways .
A good fitted Dominix and Hyperion is the thing my Tempest fear most. |

Miss KillSome
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.10 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: kessah That Abaddon fit is just terrible, if you not actively tankin about 800-900 dps dont bother.
With that setup with dual injectors you'd have 3 Nanobot accelerators and make that single rep take use of the nuts amount of cap its got to burn (your dual heavy t2 injectors).
Also your Hyperion setups lacking its med slots. I hope you relise how that the hyperion has 5 med slots which are incredible for versatility - such as the domi and Tempest. I wont tell you how to use them, but its damned useful.
If your target is close enough to be in scramble range (<10km) then an hyperion will hit it just as good, if not use Null.
Finally, there are several broken battleships - the Hyperion isnt one imho, tho i know others disagree, i think people need to read up on the changes in QR.
Honestly LOOK at all the changes QR brought, each new patch subtilely changes pvp. People need to keep up.
All true, but i wanted to show u guys if we take same role for both ships (max dps, ACTIVE tanke (to make bonuses for both ships useless in the same way..))
1. what 3 nanobot accs? two aux and one nanobot i have, and its cap stable with all the guns, like i wrote in OP..
2.yes, hyp doessnt have mids fitted, why? If u read OP, u would see that hyp runs out of PG if its fitted in same way than abaddon (active tank, largest guns) and has almost same dps and tank than abaddon..And while i agree that hyps mids are usefull for something else, it doesnt help it with raw numbers for dps and/or tank..
3. even further downgrades dps and gets tracking issues..
4. can u name some changes that affect hyp apart that BS sized guns are unable to hit cruisers.. |

Miss KillSome
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.10 22:12:00 -
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Edited by: Miss KillSome on 10/01/2009 22:12:23
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2009 21:53:00
Originally by: Elizabeth vonStrauss And i tell u, it will.. he has one web, so if u orbit him without AB/MWD on, u gonna orbit him with like 70m/s or less..and he can track a BS sized ship at that velocity..
An Abaddon can track me yeah, but how hard will he hit me if i'm orbiting him at 70-80 m/s at 500m - 1km?, that's the whole thing. And with my 80% EM resist and 67% Thermal resists, your lasers are not gonna do so much damage on me anyways .
A good fitted Dominix and Hyperion is the thing my Tempest fear most.
not sure why are u insisting on comparing tempest fits (which doesnt have largest guns fitted nor similar dps to ccompare nor similar tank to compare with both setups..)..
U are right, tempest is better, never said that..try to fit it like i fitted those two ships and lets check raw numbers..
I've seen thorax beat up cookiecutter setup astarte coz of medium ecm drones: he had luck and astarte didnt have eccm..i know that there are better setups for abaddon and hyp, but u cannot compare those setups between eachothers..
And still..can dual rep hyp outlast abaddons raw HP and higher DPS? |

kessah
The Accursed
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Posted - 2009.01.10 22:12:00 -
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Im really not going to connect the dots for people. Sorry if u think that means i dont know a damned thing, but im really not.
The Patch notes are there. *claps hands* threads done for me. |

Miss KillSome
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.10 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: kessah Im really not going to connect the dots for people. Sorry if u think that means i dont know a damned thing, but im really not.
The Patch notes are there. *claps hands* threads done for me.
yeah, i thought so..u dont have a good example.. |

adriaans
Amarr Ankaa.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 22:38:00 -
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learn to fit hyperions? 
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Mandorr Kzrell
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Posted - 2009.01.10 22:49:00 -
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Abaddon is pretty sexy, it owns even without a setup o.O |

LadyLubU2
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.10 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2009 21:10:30 Wow, your so funny .
So only because EFT is showing that Amarr have some higher numbers in something over Gallente, and that makes Gallente obsolete over Amarr because Amarr have some higher numbers?.
LOL, seriously dude, don't be an idiot.
And i can for sure beat that Abaddon in my Tempest any day . It doesn't help to have huge EFT numbers when your dumb as a monkey in PVP. Because a dumb PVPer loses to everything.
OMGOMG, the Abaddon have much better stats than my Tempest, it must win over my Tempest then, yeah. It's all true.
And while i think about it. I know alot of players is like, omg why doesn't the Tempest or Megathron have the the same DPS on 25+ km range on the guns as the geddon gets etc and that.
Would there be any point to have different Battleships in EVE if all battleships have had all the same stats on all battleships?.
Came back from your holyday in troll-country? -- Sig:
NARF FALCONS!!!
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DamienV
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:07:00 -
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This thread is full of fail.
Because you cannot fit a Hype exactly like an abbadon it sucks? THEY ARE 2 DIFFERENT SHIPS, FIT THEM DIFFERENTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Hype with dual rep can beat an abbadon, that abbadon will be using cpa boosters like no tomorrow.
If you want to go gank v gank use a mega, it is fitted more for that role. |

NightmareX
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:09:00 -
[32]
Originally by: LadyLubU2
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2009 21:10:30 Wow, your so funny .
So only because EFT is showing that Amarr have some higher numbers in something over Gallente, and that makes Gallente obsolete over Amarr because Amarr have some higher numbers?.
LOL, seriously dude, don't be an idiot.
And i can for sure beat that Abaddon in my Tempest any day . It doesn't help to have huge EFT numbers when your dumb as a monkey in PVP. Because a dumb PVPer loses to everything.
OMGOMG, the Abaddon have much better stats than my Tempest, it must win over my Tempest then, yeah. It's all true.
And while i think about it. I know alot of players is like, omg why doesn't the Tempest or Megathron have the the same DPS on 25+ km range on the guns as the geddon gets etc and that.
Would there be any point to have different Battleships in EVE if all battleships have had all the same stats on all battleships?.
Came back from your holyday in troll-country?
Yeah i did come back from my vacation.
But it doesn't mean i'm trolling for telling the truth. |

Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:17:00 -
[33]
Comparing unrealistic in EFT means N O T H I N G.
A ship with an extra low and more PG can tank and gank better? No ****? You are a genius, thanks for the info dude. Hey, do you know that ships with more mid slots and cpu are better shield tankers? Let's compare a shield tanked drake to a shield tanked hurricane using no low slots. Come on, use all skills @ V char because that mimics what happens on tranquility perfectly.
I also like how you throw on a faction item on one ship and then whine that the other ship doesn't fit well. Hey guys, I'll fit no speed mod and a scrambler. I'll be able to catch anything with that setup! 
I see we have a good collection of EFT warriors in this thread, I suggest CCP nuke this thread from orbit, that way we wouldn't have to read this **** anymore. |

Lisento Slaven
Amarr The Drekla Consortium
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:22:00 -
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I have yet to see a Hyperion fitting that could defeat the good Abaddon's I've encountered. The Abaddon is one of the most dangerous BS to take on unless you can stop it from dishing out its DPS somehow. That beast has a LOT of armor for ships to eat through (because of the resists)...
Chances are you will lose at least one or two ships if you engage an abaddon without TD's or ECM, or without overwhelming damage. The 1v1, 2v1, 3v1, and sometimes 4v1 fights can still result in a loss unless you have the TD's, ECM, or overwhelming DPS.
Sentries against you don't help either =) |

Mistress Destruction
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:27:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Lisento Slaven I have yet to see a Hyperion fitting that could defeat the good Abaddon's I've encountered. The Abaddon is one of the most dangerous BS to take on unless you can stop it from dishing out its DPS somehow. That beast has a LOT of armor for ships to eat through (because of the resists)...
Chances are you will lose at least one or two ships if you engage an abaddon without TD's or ECM, or without overwhelming damage. The 1v1, 2v1, 3v1, and sometimes 4v1 fights can still result in a loss unless you have the TD's, ECM, or overwhelming DPS.
Sentries against you don't help either =)
Why not try an active tank instead of plates?
I feel its a ship not to call primary, but on its own its pretty vunerable to anyone that can active tank. |

PsychoBones
SPORADIC MOVEMENT FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:51:00 -
[36]
That is the worst Abaddon fitting I have ever seen in my live. I didn't even read past the low slots  |

PsychoBones
SPORADIC MOVEMENT FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2009.01.11 00:53:00 -
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Finished reading the OP. The Hyperion setup isn't any better 
Lol @ Conflag and Void. |

Fuazzole
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:03:00 -
[38]
You put Ions on the Hyperion, then You can actualy fit stuff on and claim the 0.0575 tracking against the 0.04219 from MegaPulse
100MN MWD II Heavy Capacitor Booster II ECCM - Mag II Stasis Web II Stasis Web II
not to forget +150m3 of 800's
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Fuazzole
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:06:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Lisento Slaven I have yet to see a Hyperion fitting that could defeat the good Abaddon's I've encountered. The Abaddon is one of the most dangerous BS to take on unless you can stop it from dishing out its DPS somehow. That beast has a LOT of armor for ships to eat through (because of the resists)...
Chances are you will lose at least one or two ships if you engage an abaddon without TD's or ECM, or without overwhelming damage. The 1v1, 2v1, 3v1, and sometimes 4v1 fights can still result in a loss unless you have the TD's, ECM, or overwhelming DPS.
Sentries against you don't help either =)
You tried a close orbit? I have, my shields were recharging, and that was pre-web nerf
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Stuart Price
Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:28:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Fuazzole
Originally by: Lisento Slaven I have yet to see a Hyperion fitting that could defeat the good Abaddon's I've encountered. The Abaddon is one of the most dangerous BS to take on unless you can stop it from dishing out its DPS somehow. That beast has a LOT of armor for ships to eat through (because of the resists)...
Chances are you will lose at least one or two ships if you engage an abaddon without TD's or ECM, or without overwhelming damage. The 1v1, 2v1, 3v1, and sometimes 4v1 fights can still result in a loss unless you have the TD's, ECM, or overwhelming DPS.
Sentries against you don't help either =)
You tried a close orbit? I have, my shields were recharging, and that was pre-web nerf
This.
Yes, Abaddon's are terrific. I fly one. It rules at mid-range combat it really does. Massive firepower, incredibly tough, ability to mount two ECCM's (gang fit ofc, solo battleship work is, risky, shall we say) and good range, with decent tracking AT THAT RANGE.
However, you put a Megathron in orbit 500m from me and I'm in all kinds of trouble. His blasters will have no problems tracking ME thanks to better native tracking and the tracking bonus from the ship (why people moan about blaster ship bonuses I have no idea, tracking bonus and falloff bonus (Deimos/Astarte) are GREAT for blasters but that's another discussion) whereas I'm going to have real trouble tracking him.
I almost came unstuck last time I fought a Mega for exactly this reason. Luckily I was able to tank him until we decided it might be a good idea to primary and kill him. If he'd had t2 guns instead of best named and better skills it would have been a LOT more painful. |

Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.01.11 01:56:00 -
[41]
Hmm...
I have max skills for blaster ships, I have Amarr BS5 and large pulse spec 4, with all other skills maxed for Amarr BS. I have two separate HG slave clones- one for blaster ships, the other for lasers. Maxed damage and ROF implants for both clones.
I know how to fit a Mega and a Hype. Very well. The Abaddon is superior to either of them. By a very large margin.
Anyone who thinks that a blaster BS can 'orbit' an Abaddon, or any other laser BS for that matter, and think it will help them in a fight, doesn't know WTF they're talking about.
While the OP's fits and general concepts are a bit off the mark, the Abaddon can output the same or MORE DPS than either the Hype or Megathron, at much greater range, and with the same or MORE tank, given similar DPS numbers.
I know this from first hand experience because I'm maxed with both Gallente and Amarr BS, and I've put in the ISK to make sure that I'm flying both at the absolute maximum of their capacity. The Abaddon has no competition. That being said, I hate flying laser ships. They're boring as all hell. |

Ahmadiyya
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Posted - 2009.01.11 02:03:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Hmm...
I have max skills for blaster ships, I have Amarr BS5 and large pulse spec 4, with all other skills maxed for Amarr BS. I have two separate HG slave clones- one for blaster ships, the other for lasers. Maxed damage and ROF implants for both clones.
I know how to fit a Mega and a Hype. Very well. The Abaddon is superior to either of them. By a very large margin.
Anyone who thinks that a blaster BS can 'orbit' an Abaddon, or any other laser BS for that matter, and think it will help them in a fight, doesn't know WTF they're talking about.
While the OP's fits and general concepts are a bit off the mark, the Abaddon can output the same or MORE DPS than either the Hype or Megathron, at much greater range, and with the same or MORE tank, given similar DPS numbers.
I know this from first hand experience because I'm maxed with both Gallente and Amarr BS, and I've put in the ISK to make sure that I'm flying both at the absolute maximum of their capacity. The Abaddon has no competition. That being said, I hate flying laser ships. They're boring as all hell.
more tank and more range, but its not getting the 1200-1300 like mega/hype. by that im not saying that abaddon sux or anything. actually the abaddon win over a megathron 1v1 fairly easy (stupid high ehp) |

Ashani Tazuki
Gallente VisionEight
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Posted - 2009.01.11 02:22:00 -
[43]
well, hate to state the pain staking obvious,
but the aba can only do 1 dmg type. |

Deva Blackfire
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2009.01.11 02:35:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Ahmadiyya
more tank and more range, but its not getting the 1200-1300 like mega/hype. by that im not saying that abaddon sux or anything. actually the abaddon win over a megathron 1v1 fairly easy (stupid high ehp)
cant dualrep hype with aux pumps/nanobot (?) and combat booster actually tank abaddon till it runs out of cap? IIRC they tanked around 1500dps when using combat boosters.
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PsychoBones
SPORADIC MOVEMENT FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2009.01.11 02:50:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: Ahmadiyya
more tank and more range, but its not getting the 1200-1300 like mega/hype. by that im not saying that abaddon sux or anything. actually the abaddon win over a megathron 1v1 fairly easy (stupid high ehp)
cant dualrep hype with aux pumps/nanobot (?) and combat booster actually tank abaddon till it runs out of cap? IIRC they tanked around 1500dps when using combat boosters.
I've had a dual LAR boosted Hyp tank my Abaddon and sentries  |

Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2009.01.11 03:01:00 -
[46]
abaddons are passive plate with best dmg that you want to sacrifice tank for.
hypers are active tank with as best dmg that you want to sacrifice tank for.
with an extra low and a res bonus the abaddon comes out ontop for anything other than a 2v fight. But generally the hypers dont plate and fit mwd and are quick to bump and get in range while shredding, and the abaddon more of a fat slug with armor like diamond and enough dps to hold its own.
both have their uses. |

Bashiri
Burning Sky Labs
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Posted - 2009.01.11 03:25:00 -
[47]
I laugh so hard when i read what op pu in. |

Aerin Cloudfayr
the evil ones Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.01.11 03:27:00 -
[48]
Terribad, sorry - just terribad. |

Grarr Dexx
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 03:33:00 -
[49]
EFT warriors, ho! |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.11 05:48:00 -
[50]
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2009 21:36:43
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton I dont think anyone would fit a hype/abaddon like the op anyways.
Yeah i agree on that.
Well, i just checked my EFT with the setup i have on my Tempest, and my Tempest beat both the Abaddon and the Hyperion in EHP LOL .
My Tempest have 91.3k EHP .
This is my tempest setup:
High-Slot:
6 x Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 2 x Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Med-Slot:
1 x 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 1 x Warp Disruptor II 1 x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 1 x ECM - Multispectral Jammer II 1 x Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Low-Slot:
1 x Large Armor Repairer II 1 x Damage Control II 2 x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1 x 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1 x Gyrostabilizer II
Rig-Slot:
3 x Trimark Armor Pump I
Drones:
3 x Ogre II or Berserker II
This is one of the most solid close range setup you can get to the Tempest today.
It have 709 DPS (787 DPS overloaded) with my skills and implants.
9/10 it will kick the **** out of my abaddon 1v1.
the other 1/10 I had ecm drones, and got lucky.
oh and my abaddon has more ehp, rep, and dps. |

Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.11 06:38:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Elizabeth vonStrauss
What do u guys say?
Either you don't have a clue about this game or you are quite the troll. That is what we guys say.
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BiggestT
Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.01.11 07:30:00 -
[52]
Edited by: BiggestT on 11/01/2009 07:32:24
Originally by: Bronson Hughes While your conclusion that Gallente blaster battleships are now generally outperformed by other ships is reasonable, the fits you used to support your conclusion are pure comedy.
This sums it up nicely.
Fitting faction mods on one fit then complaining how it beats another fit without them is bad mmkay.
A better argument wld be...
"My hyp sucks coz abba can get almost as high dps up close but can get awesome dps at ranges a hyp cant fathom. Plus the abba gets a huge buffer tank to boot etc etc" EVE history
t2 precisions |

Elizabeth vonStrauss
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Posted - 2009.01.11 09:38:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Hmm...
I have max skills for blaster ships, I have Amarr BS5 and large pulse spec 4, with all other skills maxed for Amarr BS. I have two separate HG slave clones- one for blaster ships, the other for lasers. Maxed damage and ROF implants for both clones.
I know how to fit a Mega and a Hype. Very well. The Abaddon is superior to either of them. By a very large margin.
Anyone who thinks that a blaster BS can 'orbit' an Abaddon, or any other laser BS for that matter, and think it will help them in a fight, doesn't know WTF they're talking about.
While the OP's fits and general concepts are a bit off the mark, the Abaddon can output the same or MORE DPS than either the Hype or Megathron, at much greater range, and with the same or MORE tank, given similar DPS numbers.
I know this from first hand experience because I'm maxed with both Gallente and Amarr BS, and I've put in the ISK to make sure that I'm flying both at the absolute maximum of their capacity. The Abaddon has no competition. That being said, I hate flying laser ships. They're boring as all hell.
This is the answer i was looking for. Somebody who uses both ships, has experience in 1:1 combat and has understood why i fitted such a lol comedy fittings..
/thread
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Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.11 09:44:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Elizabeth vonStrauss
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Hmm...
I have max skills for blaster ships, I have Amarr BS5 and large pulse spec 4, with all other skills maxed for Amarr BS. I have two separate HG slave clones- one for blaster ships, the other for lasers. Maxed damage and ROF implants for both clones.
I know how to fit a Mega and a Hype. Very well. The Abaddon is superior to either of them. By a very large margin.
Anyone who thinks that a blaster BS can 'orbit' an Abaddon, or any other laser BS for that matter, and think it will help them in a fight, doesn't know WTF they're talking about.
While the OP's fits and general concepts are a bit off the mark, the Abaddon can output the same or MORE DPS than either the Hype or Megathron, at much greater range, and with the same or MORE tank, given similar DPS numbers.
I know this from first hand experience because I'm maxed with both Gallente and Amarr BS, and I've put in the ISK to make sure that I'm flying both at the absolute maximum of their capacity. The Abaddon has no competition. That being said, I hate flying laser ships. They're boring as all hell.
This is the answer i was looking for. Somebody who uses both ships, has experience in 1:1 combat and has understood why i fitted such a lol comedy fittings..
/thread
Bellum is clueless, he is spamming other forum section with the same refuted crap. He only flies gallente and is extremely biased. Ontop of that he also doesnt fit his ships right just to make points he doesnt otherwise have.
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TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 09:50:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Bronson Hughes While your conclusion that Gallente blaster battleships are now generally outperformed by other ships is reasonable, the fits you used to support your conclusion are pure comedy.
Minmatar BS suck. Gallente are outproformed.
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chrisss0r
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Posted - 2009.01.11 11:06:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Elizabeth vonStrauss
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Hmm...
I have max skills for blaster ships, I have Amarr BS5 and large pulse spec 4, with all other skills maxed for Amarr BS. I have two separate HG slave clones- one for blaster ships, the other for lasers. Maxed damage and ROF implants for both clones.
I know how to fit a Mega and a Hype. Very well. The Abaddon is superior to either of them. By a very large margin.
Anyone who thinks that a blaster BS can 'orbit' an Abaddon, or any other laser BS for that matter, and think it will help them in a fight, doesn't know WTF they're talking about.
While the OP's fits and general concepts are a bit off the mark, the Abaddon can output the same or MORE DPS than either the Hype or Megathron, at much greater range, and with the same or MORE tank, given similar DPS numbers.
I know this from first hand experience because I'm maxed with both Gallente and Amarr BS, and I've put in the ISK to make sure that I'm flying both at the absolute maximum of their capacity. The Abaddon has no competition. That being said, I hate flying laser ships. They're boring as all hell.
This is the answer i was looking for. Somebody who uses both ships, has experience in 1:1 combat and has understood why i fitted such a lol comedy fittings..
/thread
in fact you just desperately waited for someone to confirm your bull****.
Why not determine who the best boxer in the world is simply by weight and lenght of arms?
btw: An active tanked maelstrom woul beat the holy crap out of both your comedy fittings and still noone with a sane mind would say a maelstrom is superior to both hyp and abaddon
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Weeka
Lyonesse. KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 11:15:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Miss KillSome 1. what 3 nanobot accs? two aux and one nanobot i have, and its cap stable with all the guns, like i wrote in OP..
So something is cap-stable with 2 heavy cap booster .. I stopped reading here.
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Randgris
The Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 11:38:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Randgris on 11/01/2009 11:38:18
Originally by: Ashani Tazuki well, hate to state the pain staking obvious,
but the aba can only do 1 dmg type.
seriously, read up on amarr ammo types before trolling. crystals do Em and thermal damage. 75m3 drone bay with a drone damage type of choice. also EM resist on armor has been lowered and is in some cases even the lowest resist
and tbfh if i had to choose between 800 dps at 15km or 1300 dps at 5 i'd choose the first.. people just seem to forget that the abaddon can shoot long before hyperions get into range
while bellum might be exaggerating a bit the abaddon has both the better guns AND the better tank bonus ------------------------------------------ Yes I know how my face looks like :D |

Nuclear Warrior
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Posted - 2009.01.11 11:49:00 -
[59]
Hyperion LOLFIT to prove the EFT warriors wrong
8x Neutron blaster II /w void
2x Invul fields 3x Large shield extenders
4x 1600mm RTP 1x EANM 1x Damage control
3x Trimarks
3x Ogre IIs
195,000 buffer without slaves.
909 DPS
Buff the abaddon!
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Lisento Slaven
Amarr The Drekla Consortium
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Posted - 2009.01.11 15:40:00 -
[60]
Getting close enough in order to ruin an Abaddon's tracking is actually kind of hard to do you know...unless your gang has the option of instantly appearing at 0 meters...
If you don't have a way of getting that close fast enough, then you're going to have a big problem while you make the very slow trek towards that orbit range (while the Abaddon is moving away from you, and while you're both webbed).
Getting to that range would be GREAT for the attacking ship. Getting to that range is also the hard part, especially with limited numbers. |

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.01.11 16:17:00 -
[61]
Your fits provide such a horrendous basis for comparison, that your argument is invalidated. -- 249km locking? |

Nienna Fael
Sininen Talo
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Posted - 2009.01.11 18:44:00 -
[62]
ITT horrible fits and lolsolo 1vs1 battleship theorycrafting.
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Wardeneo
DEATHFUNK Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:37:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Wardeneo on 11/01/2009 19:39:36
Originally by: Elizabeth vonStrauss Hi guys..
1120 dps with 15+10 range with conflag (yes, conflag, with amarr multis u get 8dps less with same range)
8 less dps? ud rather have 8 less dps and a more cap unstable setup? gd 4 u id rather have a amore cap stable setup that might free up a cap mod (setup Dependant) ^^ or will enable u 2 usee cap charges and then ur setup will last longer
wardeneo |

Wardeneo
DEATHFUNK Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:38:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Grarr Dexx I stopped reading at Conflagration L.
lol me 2 :)
wardeneo |

Letifer Deus
A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.11 22:38:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Letifer Deus on 11/01/2009 22:38:09
Originally by: Wardeneo
Originally by: Grarr Dexx I stopped reading at Conflagration L.
lol me 2 :)
wardeneo
and your horrendous typing made me stop reading your posts.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |

Letifer Deus
A Astroid Belt Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.01.11 22:42:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Letifer Deus on 11/01/2009 22:43:24
Originally by: Nuclear Warrior Hyperion LOLFIT to prove the EFT warriors wrong
8x Neutron blaster II /w void
2x Invul fields 3x Large shield extenders
4x 1600mm RTP 1x EANM 1x Damage control
3x Trimarks
3x Ogre IIs
195,000 buffer without slaves.
909 DPS
Buff the abaddon!
You are mentally handicapped. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Brought to you by the letter ARRR!" |

Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.01.11 23:13:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Amira Shadowsong
Bellum is clueless, he is spamming other forum section with the same refuted crap. He only flies gallente and is extremely biased. Ontop of that he also doesnt fit his ships right just to make points he doesnt otherwise have.
You're a fraud and a liar. See? It's on the internet, it must be true.
I fit my ships as well as anyone that plays the game. If I'm so biased, then why am I max skilled with Amarr BS and have an entire HG Slave clone dedicated to laser ships?
Somehow I think that A) you're not posting with your main, B) you don't have enough skill points to be max skilled in any factions BS, much less two of them, and C) have never flown blaster ships or pulse BS very much, if at all.
So, in conclusion, sit the f#ck down and shut the f#ck up. |

LadyLubU2
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.11 23:19:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Amira Shadowsong
Bellum is clueless, he is spamming other forum section with the same refuted crap. He only flies gallente and is extremely biased. Ontop of that he also doesnt fit his ships right just to make points he doesnt otherwise have.
You're a fraud and a liar. See? It's on the internet, it must be true.
If I'm so biased, then why am I max skilled with Amarr BS and have an entire HG Slave clone dedicated to laser ships?
Because its obvious you like to brag about it? |

Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2009.01.12 00:58:00 -
[69]
How about using those mid-slots on the hyperion for ECM, tracking disruptors, targeting computers, and lord knows what else, instead of leaving them empty? .............
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Tom Peeping
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Posted - 2009.01.12 01:28:00 -
[70]
Yeah... good thing you left all those mid slots on the gallente ship empty... you're right... there's nothing you could possibly fit into those slot that would affect this equation at all... would enable you to ameliorate the dps put out by the abaddon. You also couldn't possibly fit things in a different manner so you can use those mid slots.... I'm quite sure that all eve gallente players simply fit so as to not use a single one of their mid slots. Good job on pointing out these serious problems with the ship... Don't listen to your detractors... there's no way you could be missing taking advantage of the strengths and weaknesses of these ships. |

Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.01.12 01:51:00 -
[71]
Originally by: LadyLubU2
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Amira Shadowsong
Bellum is clueless, he is spamming other forum section with the same refuted crap. He only flies gallente and is extremely biased. Ontop of that he also doesnt fit his ships right just to make points he doesnt otherwise have.
You're a fraud and a liar. See? It's on the internet, it must be true.
If I'm so biased, then why am I max skilled with Amarr BS and have an entire HG Slave clone dedicated to laser ships?
Because its obvious you like to brag about it?
Who's bragging? I'm saying that if you don't have first hand experience with all involved, then how can you speak to whether or not one is overpowered verses another? The answer: you can't. I however am, and I can. Come up with something other than personal attacks to derail the thread.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Death of Virtue is Recruiting
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NightmareX
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2009.01.12 05:15:00 -
[72]
Edited by: NightmareX on 12/01/2009 05:25:33
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: LadyLubU2
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Amira Shadowsong
Bellum is clueless, he is spamming other forum section with the same refuted crap. He only flies gallente and is extremely biased. Ontop of that he also doesnt fit his ships right just to make points he doesnt otherwise have.
You're a fraud and a liar. See? It's on the internet, it must be true.
If I'm so biased, then why am I max skilled with Amarr BS and have an entire HG Slave clone dedicated to laser ships?
Because its obvious you like to brag about it?
Who's bragging? I'm saying that if you don't have first hand experience with all involved, then how can you speak to whether or not one is overpowered verses another? The answer: you can't. I however am, and I can. Come up with something other than personal attacks to derail the thread.
All LadyLubU2 can say is either that we are bragging or trolling in every replies.
LadyLubU2 was telling me that i was trolling for telling some facts about Gallente and Amarr. And that made me laught.
So from now on, just ignore the npc corp noob.
Check out my new flash web page 'Alpha Strike' |

Amira Shadowsong
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.12 06:46:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
I fit my ships as well as anyone that plays the game. If I'm so biased, then why am I max skilled with Amarr BS and have an entire HG Slave clone dedicated to laser ships?
Uhm, everytime you try to make a point comparing ships and fittings on this forum you fit ships like a noob, no offense. Why? Because you are trying to make a point that wouldn't be there if you didnt fit like one. You are maxed skilled with amarr and have a slave set because you obviously need it to somewhat stop whining about your own short comings. People that cross train all races and STILL are whining on the forums suck, no offense. Oh and add that HG slave. Yeah, you don't really have much saying around here mate. Go whine elsewhere.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2009.01.12 07:14:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Bronson Hughes While your conclusion that Gallente blaster battleships are now generally outperformed by other ships is reasonable, the fits you used to support your conclusion are pure comedy.
This
*** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |

hellsknights
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.01.12 10:05:00 -
[75]
Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 10/01/2009 21:36:43
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton I dont think anyone would fit a hype/abaddon like the op anyways.
Yeah i agree on that.
Well, i just checked my EFT with the setup i have on my Tempest, and my Tempest beat both the Abaddon and the Hyperion in EHP LOL .
My Tempest have 91.3k EHP .
This is my tempest setup:
High-Slot:
6 x Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 2 x Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Med-Slot:
1 x 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 1 x Warp Disruptor II 1 x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 1 x ECM - Multispectral Jammer II 1 x Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Low-Slot:
1 x Large Armor Repairer II 1 x Damage Control II 2 x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1 x 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1 x Gyrostabilizer II
Rig-Slot:
3 x Trimark Armor Pump I
Drones:
3 x Ogre II or Berserker II
This is one of the most solid close range setup you can get to the Tempest today.
It have 709 DPS (787 DPS overloaded) with my skills and implants.
I dont fly a Tempest but why use artillery instead of AC for close range. |

Jaro Brutus
La Isla del Mono
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Posted - 2009.01.12 10:13:00 -
[76]
Originally by: hellsknights
I dont fly a Tempest but why use artillery instead of AC for close range.
Nah, Dual 650 Repeating Artillery is in fact an AutoCannon.... blame CCP for his confusing weapon naming : http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/item/i2953-Dual-650mm-Repeating-Artillery-II-details.html |

Randgris
The Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.01.12 15:35:00 -
[77]
here's my setup
[Hyperion, ions] Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Large Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Armor Explosive Hardener II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Nanobot Accelerator I Nanobot Accelerator I
Berserker II x2 Valkyrie II x2 Warrior II x6
havent beaten an abaddon 1on1 with it though.. not even close, i died while the abaddon had maybe 30% armor left (both active tanked)
(BS5, large blaster spec 4, drone spec 4, di 5) |

Uncle Smokey
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Posted - 2009.01.12 15:38:00 -
[78]
hi mom |
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