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lamarar
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:15:00 -
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I've been playing eve for 4 year but since the timecards price fixing and crap economy I've went from paying ú20 for 3 months to ú35 (I pay ú46 for 6 months on wow), therefore running 3 accounts is no longer justifiable. Eve is by far the most expensive MMO I know of.
Good bye Eve hello LOTRO life time membership, now theres value for money!
CCP: Why don't you ask your economist if its good practice to compete against other MMO's by having uncompetitive prices. When you get the correct answer file this under the question "Why are so many people leaving eve?"
And before anyone says says CCP arent responsible for the current economy, they arent but the Icelandic banking system didnt help now did it - lol |
ry ry
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:17:00 -
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stuff. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:19:00 -
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LOL@stuff |
Furb Killer
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:21:00 -
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Eve is dying, you heard it here first (wel not really). |
Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:21:00 -
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stuff can i have...
come on Eve is not like other mmo's it doesn't directly compete with them as its a unique sandbox not cookie cutter same old, same old (with different graphics)
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Salliene
Gallente
Trinity Acquisitions
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:22:00 -
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 Originally by: lamarar
CCP: Why don't you ask your economist if its good practice to compete against other MMO's by having uncompetitive prices. When you get the correct answer file this under the question "Why are so many people leaving eve?"
Sorry, everyone at CCP is too busy preparing for the 6 year anniversary party of their dying game to answer any questions.
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Kale Kold
Caldari
Brutal Seizure
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:22:00 -
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EVE is dying again??? Oh nose! |
Irida Mershkov
Gallente
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: lamarar
Good bye Eve hello LOTRO life time membership, now theres value for money!
HAHAHAHA. |
Leviathan9
Gallente
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:23:00 -
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Aye its alot more expensives for us Brits since the enconomic crisis started, but its not exactly eve's fault. They haven't actually increased the prices. Though CCP should start charging GTC's and CC in ú aswell as $ and Euro. Or lower the prices to even out the effect of the economic crisis. |
Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:24:00 -
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CCP should start charging GTC's and CC in ú aswell as $ and Euro. Or lower the prices to even out the effect of the economic crisis.
**** no, we should jump on the euro whilst it's 1:1! |
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: lamarar
timecards price fixing
Lolwut ? You mean, timecard RL cost adjustment ? Because the ISK price was NEVER "fixed" in any way.
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therefore running 3 accounts is no longer justifiable
The average is 1.3 accounts per player. You are one of the very few (less than 5%) with more than 2 accounts. Time to go back to a single account, it seems.
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Good bye Eve hello LOTRO life time membership, now theres value for money!
See you in 2-3 years when LOTRO closes down.
"Lifetime membership" doesn't mean YOUR lifetime, it means the game's lifetime. They calibrate it in such a way as to get about as much cash out of you as they could possibly hope to get out of you if you were a faithful customer.
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CCP: Why don't you ask your economist if its good practice to compete against other MMO's by having uncompetitive prices. When you get the correct answer file this under the question "Why are so many people leaving eve?"
Subscriber numbers have KEPT INCREASING even in this economic recession we're witnessing, in spite of the policies enacted by CCP which you keep criticizing.
So, apparently, their policy is good enough, for now at least.
P.S. Why bother charging less if no other game comes close in long-term enjoyability ? |
Eran Laude
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Eran Laude on 13/01/2009 16:27:12
Originally by: lamarar
Good bye Eve hello LOTRO life time membership, now theres value for money!
If you're serious [I doubt it] you will regret it.
EDIT: Also, a 60d timecard is ú23.45 on Battleclinic. Onoes! 
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H Lecter
Gallente
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:29:00 -
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Having only one account I can easily afford it 
But of course I fully understand your concern and agree that you should switch to LOTRO.
Apart from that I want to offer my services for disposal of your virtual belongings. Just contract everything to this character and don't forget to send the remaining ISK you have.
Have fun with LOTRO!
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:32:00 -
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eve is dying so badly that hordes of people are joining just to watch it die.
or something. |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:34:00 -
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*looks to left*
*looks to right*
I pay around 18e/month... |
Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: lamarar
I've been playing eve for 4 year but since the timecards price fixing and crap economy I've went from paying ú20 for 3 months to ú35 (I pay ú46 for 6 months on wow), therefore running 3 accounts is no longer justifiable. Eve is by far the most expensive MMO I know of.
Good bye Eve hello LOTRO life time membership, now theres value for money!
CCP: Why don't you ask your economist if its good practice to compete against other MMO's by having uncompetitive prices. When you get the correct answer file this under the question "Why are so many people leaving eve?"
And before anyone says says CCP arent responsible for the current economy, they arent but the Icelandic banking system didnt help now did it - lol
I think the price is pretty low actually. I paid 133 dollar for 1 year subscription, which makes it about 11 dollar a month. I think I can get 1-2 beers for that price.. And when we know CCP dont add anything for their expansion EVE online is a real bargain!
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Confuzer
Volition Cult
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:40:00 -
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CCP is sorry for the fact they don't have millions of subscribers so the price can go down.
Infact, they should charge moar! |
Victor Adler
The Incredible Machine
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:40:00 -
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Going by basic credit card subscription prices:
EVE costs $14.99 a month.
LOTRO costs $14.99 a month.
Warhammer Online costs $14.00 a month.
Everquest II costs $14.99 a month.
World of Warcraft costs $14.99 a month.
Yeah, EVE Online is really the most expensive of all of those games. |
Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:43:00 -
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this thread just makes me want to buy more and more GTCs |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:44:00 -
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Can I have your stuff? |
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AnonyTerrorNinja
Minmatar
Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: AnonyTerrorNinja on 13/01/2009 16:46:47
1. Learn how to make reasonable amounts of isk with a time commitment that is justifiable
2. Buy GTCs with ISK
3. Let the rich kids who aren't feeling the world economic recession thingy pay your EVE sub(s) for you
4. Stop being a bigot
5. ???
6. Profit
To Akita T, there has in fact been some GTC price-fixing occurring. Prior to the whole 'world economic recession', you could get a 30-day for 150mil and a 60-day for 280mil or so. Economic recession thingy kicks in and we see South Africans paying R10.5/$1, where it was ~R7/$1 prior. That's a 50% increase. How did GTCs react?
30-day GTCs disappeared and 60-day GTCs went up to 450mil in price. 50% more than their previous price of 300mil. But wait! There's more! If you sift through the forum threads of old you will notice that the price gradually got pushed up by fake buy/sell threads, steadily increasing the price! Demand went up and supply went down? Rubbish - you couldn't have a thread up for more than a minute at the 'buying' price that these people had pushed it up to without it being filled.
So GTCs now sit at a toasty 600mil for a 60-day, on average. That's 100% more than they used to be.
That aside; can I have one of your characters? :D |
Salliene
Gallente
Trinity Acquisitions
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Adler
Going by basic credit card subscription prices:
EVE costs $14.99 a month.
LOTRO costs $14.99 a month.
Warhammer Online costs $14.00 a month.
Everquest II costs $14.99 a month.
World of Warcraft costs $14.99 a month.
Yeah, EVE Online is really the most expensive of all of those games.
Don't forget:
Warhammer Online - $49.99
LOTRO - $49.99 + $29.99 for Moria
World of Warcraft - $29.99 + $29.99 + $39.99
EVE - $0.00 + $0.00 + $0.00 + $0.00 + $0.00
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Bumbum George
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: lamarar
Good bye Eve hello LOTRO
stuffz, i wantz them, you gief them, now! |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.13 16:55:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 13/01/2009 17:00:59
Originally by: AnonyTerrorNinja
To Akita T, there has in fact been some GTC price-fixing occurring.
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That's price adjustment, caused by external factors.
"Price fixing" means something else entirely, and it certainly not appliable in this case.
It would imply GTC sellers (or GTC buyers) have some form of agreement to sell at or buy only at certain prices - which is obviously not the case, there is no such bloc of people that have the power to dictate prices unilaterally. All GTC sellers try to get as much as possible, all buyers try to pay as little as possible. It's not price fixing, it's free market chaos. |
Edward Tang
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Posted - 2009.01.13 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Edward Tang on 13/01/2009 17:10:10
Originally by: lamarar
Good bye Eve hello LOTRO life time membership, now theres value for money!
Be cautios. Any MMO desperate enough for such an offer has some serious subscription problem... Hellgate London anyone? |
nether void
Caldari
Shrapnel Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.13 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: lamarar
running 3 accounts
LOL. You're running 3 accounts and complaining because it's expensive. Maybe just run 1 account, as intended? You'll feel economic relief immediately. I guarantee it. |
Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.13 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: lamarar
Good bye Eve hello LOTRO life time membership, now theres value for money!
Hmm that depends on how long lifetime is, and if the game is any fun.
When they start offering lifetime memberships it usually means the expected lifetime is short and that the game isnt really fun. |
Gnomes Rock
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Posted - 2009.01.13 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
I think the price is pretty low actually. I paid 133 dollar for 1 year subscription, which makes it about 11 dollar a month. I think I can get 1-2 beers for that price.. And when we know CCP dont add anything for their expansion EVE online is a real bargain!
You're neglecting the fact that people in europe have to pay with money which isn't the same value as monopoly money.
To the op; you figured that Eve costs to much and you can't justify it, I sympathise with that alot. But it wasn't worth a thread, in some magical forum where the majority weren't self-indulgent trolls it might be, but this is eve.
Having said that, lol lotro. |
Wolfae
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.13 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: lamarar
CCP: Why don't you ask your economist if its good practice to compete against other MMO's by having uncompetitive prices. When you get the correct answer file this under the question "Why are so many people leaving eve?"
Leaving? Didn't we recently hit an all time high or something? |
Gamer4liff
Caldari
Metalworks
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2009.01.13 17:21:00 -
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You're right, I'm sick of paying $0.00 a month by playing with GTCs, CCP should pay me, thanks for the tip! |
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