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SwiftAssassin
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:06:00 -
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so the raven is way to unagile to be used for 0.0 ratting, although it effortlessly dispatches the ships.. what would be the lowest ship class i could use to be able to kill up to 1.8 million bounty rats? |

Gnomes Rock
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:08:00 -
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Retribution, and some other assault frigates but I haven't used any of the others to vouch.
You just need to pay alot of attention. |

Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: SwiftAssassin so the raven is way to unagile to be used for 0.0 ratting, although it effortlessly dispatches the ships.. what would be the lowest ship class i could use to be able to kill up to 1.8 million bounty rats?
A well skilled Wolf with several anchored giant secure cans full of ammo should do the trick. |

Apoctasy
Young Enterprise Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:10:00 -
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My officer fitted Ibis rats like no tommorow. |

Mal Plox
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Mal Plox on 18/01/2009 18:15:09 I use Ishtar. Very efficient, but you have to barge right in and wait for everything to aggro you, before releasing your drones. |

Tellenta
Gallente Invicta. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:17:00 -
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Ishkur works well. Don't know about T1 friggies as I haven't tried. |

Chris Liath
Gallente The Vorlon Empire Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:19:00 -
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Heavy Assault Ships would be your best bet. |

McRoll
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:26:00 -
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I killed 3 an angel battleships each worth 1,4 mil. and 1 frigate spawn yesterday in a Wolf quite easily, only took some time. So i guess Assault Frigs are the lowest ship class which can do this in an reasonable amount of time, just make sure you use the frigs with the max. possible damage output. Oh and dont forget to bring a lot of ammo with you. |

Shadow Ballet
OffBeat Creations
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:27:00 -
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Ishkur can do it rather well although it can be slow. Any HAC will manage it just fine. I've tried a lachesis too but my missile skills aren't quite up to scratch.
HACs are the best compromise between manoeuvrability and damage dealing. If you are low on cash you can use a BC. |

pherlopolus
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:28:00 -
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Vexor can work nicely, doesnt cost much either. myrmidon with t1 fit is perfectly acceptable (with a/c) |

Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:32:00 -
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Abitrator is also very good if you shield tank it and fit heavy pulse. Ammoless ratting is handy in hostile 0.0 space. |

Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:37:00 -
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Blaster Harpy or Pulse Retribution probably, though for obvious reasons they need to be the "right" rats.
Otherwise, the Caracal can do the job pretty well at very low cost.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:42:00 -
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All depends on skills really, one can take a 1mil BS down with a rookie ship so 
Arbitrator is a very nice hunter, versatile among the best out there.
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |

SwiftAssassin
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:42:00 -
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so how about a hurricane? would it do it semi effectively? , like could it take down a 1.8 mil bounty one? thanks gys =]
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:47:00 -
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I think the consensus is that nearly every ship can rat in 0.0 its just down to what you are willing to risk to a bubble camp is all that left to decide. 
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McRoll
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:47:00 -
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Hurricane is just fine but you need to find the right balance between tank and damage output. On an assault frig the rats mostly cant hit you so you can fit "full gank" but a hurricane has a way larger signature, so you will want to have some tank on it. 2-3 specific hardeners and a medium armor repairer should do the job.
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Louis DelaBlanche
Adam Adamants Emporium Zzz
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:59:00 -
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I remember along time ago ratting in Fountain in a thorax. Probably would only be up to the task against serps though.
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Kye Do'lan
Gallente The Whitesands Consortium
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:01:00 -
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Harpy with 4x T2 150 rails...can take down BS rats upto 750k with np
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TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:17:00 -
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Assuming caldari, Cerberus and Drake are both excellent ratters.
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UMEE
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: SwiftAssassin so the raven is way to unagile to be used for 0.0 ratting, although it effortlessly dispatches the ships.. what would be the lowest ship class i could use to be able to kill up to 1.8 million bounty rats?
i ninja rat and salvage in my ishkur. there isnt a better frig for the job. ive taken down officer spawns with 3.7mill bounty rats no problem. u can make 20mill/hour, not including the salvage and meta 4 or officer drops. taking a BS into 0.0 for ratting is really risky. i wouldnt even take a cruiser, as u cant make it past gate camps and u usually cant burn back to the gate in time. |

UMEE
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Posted - 2009.01.18 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: UMEE on 18/01/2009 19:40:37
Originally by: TimMc Assuming caldari, Cerberus and Drake are both excellent ratters.
negative, not for 0.0. you will get caught. if ure in a 0.0 alliance, sure use a cruiser. |

Mobius 1
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.19 06:37:00 -
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Stealth Bombers, 200k safespots on all the belts, and they kill even the most expensive 0.0 rats easy.
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Luke Lor'aul
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.19 07:01:00 -
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I suppose an afterburning catalyst or thrasher would work pretty well on sanshas and other signature weak rats |

Major Templar
Caldari The Dark Wheel Corporation
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Posted - 2009.01.19 07:07:00 -
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Drake with MWD and T2 Heavy Launchers and passive tank. :) Can take out pretty much everything with ease.
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Capt Kees
Decorum Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.01.19 08:33:00 -
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I have used as lowest ship a Manticore with T2 Cruises and AB, Sens Booster and BCU II for ratting on most 0.0 belt..
Just keep at max shooting distance and peel them off one by one..
Drakes also make fine ratting ships, lil more expensive, works a tat faster too and allows for tanking. (you dont want too take BS hits even of rats in that manticore ;))
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.01.19 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: UMEE
Originally by: TimMc Assuming caldari, Cerberus and Drake are both excellent ratters.
negative, not for 0.0. you will get caught. if ure in a 0.0 alliance, sure use a cruiser.
Sooo.. the Cerberus isn't agile enough compared to a cruiser? 
I've been ninjaratting in most kind of ships, BC's do perfectly fine. Even before the agility boost in QR, I had ninjaratting command ships etc that did perfectly fine. Had a Drake that was doing it as well but got fed up with running with ammo all the time, prefer drone- or laserboats.
Anything goes, it's a matter of how you play, where you play etc. AF's are probably the smallest semi-effective one, yes. But you'll do fine up to BC/Command Ships if you're just paying attention. If you fly Amarr, Harbinger is a cheap fairly option with nice damage output. Ishtar is my choise if Gallente, and for Caldari the Cerb and Drake is awsome. Havn't been ninjaratting with my Minmatar ships but I know a guy doing it with success in a Rupture.
Seriously, as you see, there's a crapload of options. Just take whichever you will enjoy flying. 's ofc easier in smaller ships but you do fine in bigger if you pay attention. |

DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2009.01.19 10:29:00 -
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I used a Thorax back when i was a newb (1600 plate, small blasters), also assault frigs do the trick nicely. - - -
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.19 10:58:00 -
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Zealots and Cerbs are both pretty efficient, especially vs EM and Kinetic rats respectively.
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2009.01.19 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: SwiftAssassin so the raven is way to unagile to be used for 0.0 ratting
No, it's not. You're doing it wrong.
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Squably
Minmatar Invenio Inceptum
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Posted - 2009.01.19 11:09:00 -
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Raven still does the trick, can't say i notice any difference with a while ago when it comes to ratting. |
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