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Lt Angus
Caldari
End Game.
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2009.01.28 12:59:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Mordekai Bloodwake
Originally by: Omber Zombie
CSM actually got to hear (and see a little) about what CCP have been working on as part of the New Player Experience. There should be a dev blog about it soonÖ. Suffice to say - it's pretty awesome and should fix a lot of the issues new players are having with eve.
I for one hope new players get their full set of base learning skill books along with learning V and the rest to III or IV.
If they do can i get those too?  |
ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:01:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Omber Zombie
CSM actually got to hear (and see a little) about what CCP have been working on as part of the New Player Experience. There should be a dev blog about it soonÖ. Suffice to say - it's pretty awesome and should fix a lot of the issues new players are having with eve.
*is very worried about this statement* alot of the "issues" new players have aren't issues at all but merely them encountering the learning curve of eve... and frankly thats the way it should be because it stops eve turning into absolute crap with idiots every 5 au asking for a few isk and ppl going im better than you cause i've got such and such item. CCP really really needs to understand that actually what makes this game great you remove that you've got nothing.
As long as its something low level like simply adding their learning skills in for them thats ok its only gonna save em a couple of months |
ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:04:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Omber Zombie
Originally by: Malcanis
Well we might as well stfu now and wait and see. 6 weeks and all our questions will be answered.
but reading speculation is so much fun 
*Hires a crack team of mercenaries (handily listed in the crime and punishment forums) to kidnap OZ and proceeds to torture him till he reveals the info* :P |
RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:04:00 -
[34]
Here is hoping EVE doesn't go the way of Starwars Galaxys when they unleashed that new player experience on an undeserving public. |
Vonlutt
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:06:00 -
[35]
Edited by: Vonlutt on 28/01/2009 13:06:36
I just started playing again this last month after a two year break, and I only played for 3 months then....If brand new players start out with more SP or what not... I don't know if I'd roll another char or just quit.  |
Induc
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:13:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Induc on 28/01/2009 15:25:41
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Reading stuff to fast and then jumping to conclusions is never good.
But if they do decide to up the skill points you start with (which is actually a good way to get new players to stay) the rest of us should get some sort of compensation... |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:15:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Induc
This sucks for me. I got around 4.5 Million skill points atm, at mars 10th I will end up with less than 7 Million skill points, and then new players will get 9-13 million skill points right out of the box.
No they won't. |
Ezael Whiteshadow
Caldari
Divine Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:21:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Emanuelle Jasmine
Originally by: Tippia
Why?
because they can! why else would anyone do anything? or since when has reasoning come to here?
NO, because you are a troll. |
Oday Darkcrest
Minmatar
Veldspar International
Imperial Defense Coalition
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:27:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Omber Zombie
As I said, the dev blog about it should be pretty in-depth, and while some of it may shock the 'vets' I personally think it's an awesome change they are making.
linkly loo? |
Valinen
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:28:00 -
[40]
Wth, i made an alt and been training him for about 6 months now, he is close to 9.5 mil sp and somebody who just buys a box gets more sp than me in a day?
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:30:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Valinen
Wth, i made an alt and been training him for about 6 months now, he is close to 9.5 mil sp and somebody who just buys a box gets more sp than me in a day?
Says who? |
AnonyTerrorNinja
Minmatar
Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:30:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Induc
Edited by: Induc on 28/01/2009 13:15:06
Edited by: Induc on 28/01/2009 13:14:57
This sucks for me. I got around 4.5 Million skill points atm, at mars 10th I will end up with less than 7 Million skill points, and then new players will get 9-13 million skill points right out of the box.
Obviously I've got the advantage of having a lot more isk and experience than they have, but they will still have a advantage over me that I will never be able to get around.
Is there any plan on players below the new skill point limit will get "free" skill points too? Or should I just buy the box and accept that the months of training I've done so far has just been a complete waste of time?
Also, even if I do get a bump up to 9-13 Million skill points it doesn't change the fact that the few months I've played so far will still have been a waste of time (skill training-wise)
I love it when people don't read an entire thread and make a statement that perfectly demonstrates this fact. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:36:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Valinen
Wth, i made an alt and been training him for about 6 months now, he is close to 9.5 mil sp and somebody who just buys a box gets more sp than me in a day?
lol
no if anything they would give max 2 million sp, or less. They might just include scanning skills or something. |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:39:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Vonlutt
Edited by: Vonlutt on 28/01/2009 13:06:36
I just started playing again this last month after a two year break, and I only played for 3 months then....If brand new players start out with more SP or what not... I don't know if I'd roll another char or just quit.
I started Mal just before Revelations. Missed getting a "free" 700k SP by, I dunno a couple of weeks.
I don't care really. I started with ~40 or 50k SP and 5k ISK. All my SP and everything I have is mine, rather than being given to me because I was too lickle and fwuffy and lonely to cope in nasty ol' EvE.
That which is gotten cheaply is held in contempt. |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:40:00 -
[45]
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Valinen
Wth, i made an alt and been training him for about 6 months now, he is close to 9.5 mil sp and somebody who just buys a box gets more sp than me in a day?
lol
no if anything they would give max 2 million sp, or less. They might just include scanning skills or something.
Why scanning skills? W-space is hardly going to be noob-friendly. |
Vonlutt
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:44:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Vonlutt
Edited by: Vonlutt on 28/01/2009 13:06:36
I just started playing again this last month after a two year break, and I only played for 3 months then....If brand new players start out with more SP or what not... I don't know if I'd roll another char or just quit.
I started Mal just before Revelations. Missed getting a "free" 700k SP by, I dunno a couple of weeks.
I don't care really. I started with ~40 or 50k SP and 5k ISK. All my SP and everything I have is mine, rather than being given to me because I was too lickle and fwuffy and lonely to cope in nasty ol' EvE.
That which is gotten cheaply is held in contempt.
If I recall, I started right after.  |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:49:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Vonlutt
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Vonlutt
Edited by: Vonlutt on 28/01/2009 13:06:36
I just started playing again this last month after a two year break, and I only played for 3 months then....If brand new players start out with more SP or what not... I don't know if I'd roll another char or just quit.
I started Mal just before Revelations. Missed getting a "free" 700k SP by, I dunno a couple of weeks.
I don't care really. I started with ~40 or 50k SP and 5k ISK. All my SP and everything I have is mine, rather than being given to me because I was too lickle and fwuffy and lonely to cope in nasty ol' EvE.
That which is gotten cheaply is held in contempt.
If I recall, I started right after.
And you're fwuffy! |
Gneeznow
Minmatar
Goo Spew
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:54:00 -
[48]
hey guys lets jump to some more conclusions with no basis in fact! |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 13:59:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Gneeznow
hey guys lets jump to some more conclusions with no basis in fact!
By podding box-newbs and eating their brains, you can gain the bonus SP they get! |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.01.28 14:00:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Valinen
Wth, i made an alt and been training him for about 6 months now, he is close to 9.5 mil sp and somebody who just buys a box gets more sp than me in a day?
lol
no if anything they would give max 2 million sp, or less. They might just include scanning skills or something.
Why scanning skills? W-space is hardly going to be noob-friendly.
because they talked about moving all of the normal belts to scanning some dya?
good point though, and the belt thing isn't confirmed at all, and just me starting a rumor :P |
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.01.28 14:01:00 -
[51]
I remember I ust reached 800,000 skillpoints when they gave all over players 800,000 skill points.
god damn it. |
Dark Soldat
Caldari
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.28 14:05:00 -
[52]
If they give younger players more SP i DEMAND That old players get the same amount of SP to distribute to their skill/skills of choice. |
ry ry
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Posted - 2009.01.28 15:20:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Dark Soldat
If they give younger players more SP i DEMAND That old players get the same amount of SP to distribute to their skill/skills of choice.
why?
if you both played for the next thousand years you'd still have more SP than them unless you somehow forgot to train the learning skills. |
WarlockX
Amarr
Free Trade Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.28 15:26:00 -
[54]
TBH, all new players should start with lvl 4 of all rank 1 and 3 learning skills. |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 15:29:00 -
[55]
Originally by: MotherMoon
because they talked about moving all of the normal belts to scanning some dya?
good point though, and the belt thing isn't confirmed at all, and just me starting a rumor :P
They talked about moving the nice ores to scannable belts, explicitly leaving the crap ores for newbies to gather… the fact that the crap ores are currently the most valuable ones (and have been for some time) is completely besides the point… |
Joss Sparq
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.28 16:04:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Omber Zombie
Suffice to say - it's pretty awesome and should fix a lot of the issues new players are having with eve.
Yeah, so ... is it, A MANUAL? |
Dedalus77
Junkyard Dogs
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Posted - 2009.01.28 16:21:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Oday Darkcrest
Will it be a case where all older members who don't have 9M SP points will get some kind of injection?
This is what I want to know. It would suck if those characters in the say 6mil SP range who have been playing (and paying) for a while are now at a disadvantage to the brand new players. |
Gneeznow
Minmatar
Goo Spew
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Posted - 2009.01.28 17:22:00 -
[58]
Originally by: WarlockX
TBH, all new players should start with lvl 4 of all rank 1 and 3 learning skills.
I agree, learning skills are an outdated grind that imho doesnt help |
Tananda Vaakaja
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Posted - 2009.01.28 17:43:00 -
[59]
Si Senior.. the Manual to be included izz me..
Manual Ortega - Refried Beans Consortium |
Jaina Proudmoar
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.28 17:56:00 -
[60]
I hope I haven't just paid for another 6 months of subscription to have this expansion screw everything up. |
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