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Kayosoni
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2009.01.28 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Schalac I do. Older players already have too much of an advantage. I think that every new character made after the new expansion will start max scanning/learning/gunnery/engineering/mechanic skills just to even the playing field. Also there will be a new Caldari bloodline introduced that doesn't even have the charisma skill listed as an attribute, instead those 10 points get directly injected into intelligence and perception.
Um WRONG. my main char (this one, has 75m SP. I was created on the FIRST day of retail, and have had implants since they came out.
I made an achura when they came out sometime in the middle of 2006, and she now has 50m SP. She will catch up to me in 2 years.
Old characters are at a rather huge disadvantage due to complete ass for attributes. |
coeathal vega
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.01.28 18:02:00 -
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lol, my char started with 65k skillpoints and attributes not going above 8.
Yeah, sure, the old characters have an advantage. |
Dani SP
Rupture Farms Mining
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Posted - 2009.01.28 18:14:00 -
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Perfect. I started just 2 months ago and I am 2,5mil SP
So even the most newbie dudes are getting more SP than me? LOL
9millions... thats a little too much. I mean, im sure 800k were considered as too much when they upgraded it from 20-30k... but it doesnt take too much time to get 800k. Now tell me 9millions... theyre reached after 4-6 months if im not wrong!!
In addition, who the hells is gonna drive frigates if they do this? |
Haakelen
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.01.28 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Haakelen on 28/01/2009 18:21:21 Why does everyone keep repeating this 9M number as if it has any weight?
PS: Omber you're the worst salesman ever, your replies made it sound terrible. |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 28/01/2009 18:26:41
Originally by: Dedalus77
Originally by: Oday Darkcrest Will it be a case where all older members who don't have 9M SP points will get some kind of injection?
This is what I want to know.
No, what you want to know is where he got that silly idea from.
Originally by: Haakelen Why does everyone keep repeating this 9M number as if it has any weight?
Because they're idiots who assume that if someone said it on the forums, it must be true, and if it's repeated often enough, it must be super-true. |
Lee Dalton
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.28 18:37:00 -
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Successful troll is successful. ;( |
baltec1
R.U.S.T. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Schalac I do. Older players already have too much of an advantage. I think that every new character made after the new expansion will start max scanning/learning/gunnery/engineering/mechanic skills just to even the playing field. Also there will be a new Caldari bloodline introduced that doesn't even have the charisma skill listed as an attribute, instead those 10 points get directly injected into intelligence and perception.
Just to point out. I have no problem beating up people with 2 million sp or 90 million. Unfortunatly the same happens to me. |
Dephar Arcarnum
Amarr Imperial Trade Federation
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Posted - 2009.01.28 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Omber Zombie CSM actually got to hear (and see a little) about what CCP have been working on as part of the New Player Experience. There should be a dev blog about it soonÖ. Suffice to say - it's pretty awesome and should fix a lot of the issues new players are having with eve.
and yet I hope anyone whos been playing this game and doesnt get the nice candy extra skillpoints gets them imbursed into skills we want, because if your going to rewards noobs and not your vets and other players thats quite low |
Obento Jones
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.28 19:40:00 -
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This character was created over 10 months ago. Never finished my trial period and just came back the first week of January and I'm just now approaching 2 million SP. I, for one, would be ****ed if I have to go out and buy the box to get to the point where people who are just now picking up the game are starting off (especially if it's the learning skills). |
Billy Sastard
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.28 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Obento Jones This character was created over 10 months ago. Never finished my trial period and just came back the first week of January and I'm just now approaching 2 million SP. I, for one, would be ****ed if I have to go out and buy the box to get to the point where people who are just now picking up the game are starting off (especially if it's the learning skills).
IF they actually did this (which I highly doubt, refer to total lack of any proof) they would do it in the same manner as they did when they upped the starting SP previously, where every player with sp below the new mark is given random skills depending on their starting profession to bring them in line with the new sp amounts. |
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Bruce Scythe
Atomic Mexicans
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Posted - 2009.01.28 20:16:00 -
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Edited by: Bruce Scythe on 28/01/2009 20:17:16 Argh what the hell is this about? Does this mean I will have to buy the boxed set, because my character is only 1M SP now. So I'll be even worse than 1 day olds. God damn this is stupid.
This is dumb, I really hope they don't include a 9M SP character or whatever it is. It will take me over half a year just to catch up with new characters. |
Billy Sastard
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.28 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Bruce Scythe Edited by: Bruce Scythe on 28/01/2009 20:17:16 Argh what the hell is this about? Does this mean I will have to buy the boxed set, because my character is only 1M SP now. So I'll be even worse than 1 day olds. God damn this is stupid.
This is dumb, I really hope they don't include a 9M SP character or whatever it is. It will take me over half a year just to catch up with new characters.
Calm down, I am sure that this is all just a troll, and that nothing of this sort is actually happening. And if it IS happening, read what I said above regarding current players with SP lower than the new starting amounts. |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Bruce Scythe Does this mean I will have to buy the boxed set, because my character is only 1M SP now.
Does what mean?
Quote: I really hope they don't include a 9M SP character or whatever it is.
Why would they? |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.28 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 28/01/2009 20:29:57 I wish I knew what extra skills I got when they upped the starting SPs. It happened in the winter of 06/07 right? I was basically AFK that whole time and I didn't notice anything new when I came back full-time during Rev I.
edit: oh wait I noticed the Executive Commander occupation. Whatever that does. |
bff Jill
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Posted - 2009.01.28 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: bff Jill on 28/01/2009 20:26:05 Box will gave jove newbie ship |
Savage Creampuff
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Posted - 2009.01.28 21:44:00 -
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you guys are funny. in a special happy meal kinda way.
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ItradethereforIam
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Posted - 2009.01.28 23:44:00 -
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try starting with 35k .... |
Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.29 00:53:00 -
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CCP could do a really cruel trick here.
Give new chars created from the box 10 million SP and advertise the fact.
...but they are forced to do the tutorial. One of the missions pops their ship and pods them and they go back to 900k SP to show what happens when you're podded without an updated clone.
Who cares if they quit, you've sold a boxed game so they are out of pocket if they give up. If they continue, they are no worse off than the other newbies who created chars from the downloaded client.
I think it would be a really good way to teach people to update their clone regularly.
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Blastil
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Posted - 2009.01.29 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: AnonyTerrorNinja "We're sending you on a special training mission, recruit.
Should you choose to accept it, you should come out a new man (woman), armed with new skills that few ordinary civilians could dream to acquire so quickly..."
To cut to the chase, missions that will give players a level in a related skill or two purely for finishing their arcs, is what I'm guessing.
I mean, way I see it, with mission arcs, this kind of thing becomes possible:
You choose your race and bloodline; these affect your starting attributes alone.
You are sent on your training. You choose at the start which field you would like to study in, such as mining, industry, trade, military operations or the like.
As you progress through the arcs, this directly affects what skills you come out with at the end, truly affecting how a 'new player' sees the game and what they know about the gameplay, as opposed to the way it currently works where you're simply given a few skills and modules you may not have needed and might not train (or could have just bought with the copious amounts of isk that generous guy in local gave you when you started).
I somehow doubt this'll necessarily mean that new players post March10 will get MORE skillpoints total when coming out of their mission arc than current newly-created-players get, but I do suspect that it will allow players to far better focus on what they want for their character.
For example, not everyone is at all interested in the few thousand SP spent in missiles when creating a minmatar character; defender missiles? Most people never even use them, since whatever is spewing the missiles can't do so if it's dead.
Industry lvl1? What's that used for again? Mining? I did not have refined relations with that omber!
But yeah - it's just over a month away, so we'll see when it gets here :D
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So your saying that you can... level up... through grinding.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar Goo Spew
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Posted - 2009.01.29 01:26:00 -
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hey I heard that once you get the boxed version you start with 9 mil sp and all the people who have less sp are gonna get totally screwed over, so lets all rage in this thread some more about how angry we are, I personally have only 36 million sp and if I dont get my 9 mil sp I'm cancelling my 26 accounts and then an hero'ing IRL |
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Ocih
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.29 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni
Originally by: Schalac I do. Older players already have too much of an advantage. I think that every new character made after the new expansion will start max scanning/learning/gunnery/engineering/mechanic skills just to even the playing field. Also there will be a new Caldari bloodline introduced that doesn't even have the charisma skill listed as an attribute, instead those 10 points get directly injected into intelligence and perception.
Um WRONG. my main char (this one, has 75m SP. I was created on the FIRST day of retail, and have had implants since they came out.
I made an achura when they came out sometime in the middle of 2006, and she now has 50m SP. She will catch up to me in 2 years.
Old characters are at a rather huge disadvantage due to complete ass for attributes.
Maybe but seeing an '03 in local still has that certain effect on you. Unless all his fleet members are middle '08, then you know they will feed the '03 to you on a platter. '06 was the year of the alts or something. I expect '09 will be too. True noobs will never be a threat in EvE. Free SP is like an Ebay char. |
Quake Abuse
Amarr North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.29 01:28:00 -
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I also heard this that you get 9 mil sp when you buy the march 10'th boxed version and all the people who have less than 9 mil sp get shafted, also I have nothing to do with gneez and am not his alt |
Sabrosa Namaste
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Posted - 2009.01.29 01:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sabrosa Namaste on 29/01/2009 01:36:22
Originally by: Quake Abuse I also heard this that you get 9 mil sp when you buy the march 10'th boxed version and all the people who have less than 9 mil sp get shafted
its true I heard it in a channel in game |
Shirley Estyre
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Posted - 2009.01.29 01:42:00 -
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while we are at it i hope they introduce old age too where after 6 years your sp will deminish again back to zero |
Aeo IV
Amarr Xomic OmniCorporation
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Posted - 2009.01.29 01:59:00 -
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I think CCP should perhaps up the skills, or add a 4 profession.
And then I think they should let everyone repec their character's attributes. |
Ocih
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.01.29 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Aeo IV I think CCP should perhaps up the skills, or add a 4 profession.
And then I think they should let everyone repec their character's attributes.
That will be in the Platinum, limited edition, deluxe box edition |
Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.01.29 02:08:00 -
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I can only imagine they're doing something with Learning skills, and maybe upping some others. Lots of L5 skills for the specilisation you choose maybe. |
Xailia
Unsteady Corporation
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Posted - 2009.01.29 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry Besides, i'm going to buy the boxed version just for the manual. ;)
This.
Finally, an updated manual! I'm still keeping my old one though. |
Acrel
Amarr makaveli Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.29 03:43:00 -
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I find this complaining quite hilarious..
I do think the starting SP will be upped and should be.. If you believe CCP is going to make it 9mil then quit now.. 1.5m-2m SP is my guess if they do decide to raise it and most of it will probably be put into learning skills.
For those complaining that you should get compensated because of it.. Grow up. Now i do agree that the older players are gimped in a sense because of attribute changes over the years but the difference of starting SP isnt going to effect you at all.
One thing that alot people forget is that CCP is not forgetting about the older players. In fact by CCP marketing to getting newer players into the game as well as STAYING in which causes more revenue for CCP which then means having the money for better servers, staffing, expansions, etc.
But hey lets not think of it that way.. Lets just ***** and complain because CCP is making the game a little better for the newer players.
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ollobrains2
Gallente New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.01.29 04:25:00 -
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5 mil thats about 5 months seems to be a good starting point, im not worried about higher because we can all create alts now anyway if we have free slots with more skillpoints, balances the field too and will drive up demand for t2 mods |
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