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Zerg Xander
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.29 23:48:31 -
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I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.
I think this could actually draw new players |
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
990
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Posted - 2015.10.30 00:25:23 -
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Holy **** ccp. You are realy going to back stab me? I pay for your god damn game every month to get my sp this high and you boys want to get greedy on this?
For the love of god wtf happend with ccp..... Playing to many facebook games ccp? Stop trolling and do your job correct this is bulshit. |
Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
209
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Posted - 2015.10.30 00:33:59 -
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Zerg Xander wrote:I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.
I think this could actually draw new players
Yea and then they quit when they realize they can't afford to pay for a second house note.
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Jadon Wallace
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2015.10.30 02:52:50 -
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Zerg Xander wrote:I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.
I think this could actually draw new players
Interesting reply, I would like to know what you mean by being 'viable in PVP' and never being able 'to compete with a 5 year character'. SP is important but I feel it's a strong psychological factor rather than a barrier to entry in most cases, for example for a new character it's easy to get into a e-war frigate or even a electronic attack ship, both of which are very valuable and incredibly annoying on the field. Frigates in general are easy low entry and really newbies should start from the bottom and work there way up in competence, goes hand in hand with the time it takes to train to the next thing as well, it's not I can fly a Battleship therefore nothing under that can compete or kill me, EVE is a game of rock, paper, shotgun. People won't play fair, learn, play smart and work your way to where you want to be. |
Josef Djugashvilis
3072
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Posted - 2015.10.30 07:48:59 -
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Zerg Xander wrote:I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.
I think this could actually draw new players
How many skill points do you feel you need in order to be good at pvp?
You should know that a skilled player flying a 'lesser' ship than yours with better general knowledge of pvp will still beat you.
This is not a signature.
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Levi Belvar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2015.10.30 08:08:58 -
[5196] - Quote
Zerg Xander wrote:I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.
I think this could actually draw new players
So to be in a tech 3 destroyer tech 2 fitted for pvp in a month - That is along time for you. If thats the case god help you with BS5 AWU5 and Capital Skills. Carebears are hi sec lvl4 mission runners and alot i would say are alts of null players. The ganking, can flipping mission ninja looting are players that are not that different than you for the most part, you will always get some people having fun at the expense of others but its EvE and it is harsh. MMO is not solo involve yourself with others.
GÇ£Stupidity and wisdom meet in the same centre of sentiment and resolution, in the suffering of human accidents.GÇ¥
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General Lootit
RDS Academy Everyb0dy Knows
125
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Posted - 2015.10.30 09:20:06 -
[5197] - Quote
Vets, did you just found easy target?
Pinky Bear
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General Lootit
RDS Academy Everyb0dy Knows
125
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Posted - 2015.10.30 10:21:49 -
[5198] - Quote
Daniela Doran wrote: Yea and then they quit when they realize they can't afford to pay for a second house note.
Daniela Doran wrote:The $144.00 usd I'm putting into Eve every month hinges on this decision.
Daniela Doran wrote:I'm losing all interest to log in anymore thanks to you. Hah?!
Pinky Bear
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General Lootit
RDS Academy Everyb0dy Knows
125
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Posted - 2015.10.30 10:29:44 -
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Jadon Wallace wrote:Zerg Xander wrote:I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.
I think this could actually draw new players Interesting reply, I would like to know what you mean by being 'viable in PVP' and never being able 'to compete with a 5 year character'. SP is important but I feel it's a strong psychological factor rather than a barrier to entry in most cases, for example for a new character it's easy to get into a e-war frigate or even a electronic attack ship, both of which are very valuable and incredibly annoying on the field. Frigates in general are easy low entry and really newbies should start from the bottom and work there way up in competence, goes hand in hand with the time it takes to train to the next thing as well, it's not I can fly a Battleship therefore nothing under that can compete or kill me, EVE is a game of rock, paper, shotgun. People won't play fair, learn, play smart and work your way to where you want to be. You might want to read this post.
Pinky Bear
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Dror
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2015.10.30 13:04:27 -
[5200] - Quote
Jadon Wallace wrote:Zerg Xander wrote:I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.
I think this could actually draw new players Interesting reply, I would like to know what you mean by being 'viable in PVP' and never being able 'to compete with a 5 year character'. SP is important but I feel it's a strong psychological factor rather than a barrier to entry in most cases, for example for a new character it's easy to get into a e-war frigate or even a electronic attack ship, both of which are very valuable and incredibly annoying on the field. Frigates in general are easy low entry and really newbies should start from the bottom and work there way up in competence, goes hand in hand with the time it takes to train to the next thing as well, it's not I can fly a Battleship therefore nothing under that can compete or kill me, EVE is a game of rock, paper, shotgun. People won't play fair, learn, play smart and work your way to where you want to be. The game should seem absolutely enthralling before a character has to train T2 ammo. T1 fitting is vastly outplayed though, for the already tiny target selection of T1 frigates.
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Zerg Xander wrote:I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.
I think this could actually draw new players How many skill points do you feel you need in order to be good at pvp? You should know that a skilled player flying a 'lesser' ship than yours with better general knowledge of pvp will still beat you. On that note, it'd be interesting to watch a T1 ammo twink vs. a newbie that has a decent clue how to play (and has better skills obviously). I'd bet on the newbie for every class of ship probably.
"SP is helpful for the game?" Here's all of the research on motivation -- it says the opposite! What purpose does it serve, then? Starter corps are non-competitive. Sov is unchallenged. "Fix sov!" you say? Remove SP.
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Levi Belvar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
161
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Posted - 2015.10.30 13:38:11 -
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Dror wrote:Jadon Wallace wrote:Zerg Xander wrote:I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.
I think this could actually draw new players Interesting reply, I would like to know what you mean by being 'viable in PVP' and never being able 'to compete with a 5 year character'. SP is important but I feel it's a strong psychological factor rather than a barrier to entry in most cases, for example for a new character it's easy to get into a e-war frigate or even a electronic attack ship, both of which are very valuable and incredibly annoying on the field. Frigates in general are easy low entry and really newbies should start from the bottom and work there way up in competence, goes hand in hand with the time it takes to train to the next thing as well, it's not I can fly a Battleship therefore nothing under that can compete or kill me, EVE is a game of rock, paper, shotgun. People won't play fair, learn, play smart and work your way to where you want to be. The game should seem absolutely enthralling before a character has to train T2 ammo. T1 fitting is vastly outplayed though, for the already tiny target selection of T1 frigates. Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Zerg Xander wrote:I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.
I think this could actually draw new players How many skill points do you feel you need in order to be good at pvp? You should know that a skilled player flying a 'lesser' ship than yours with better general knowledge of pvp will still beat you. On that note, it'd be interesting to watch a T1 ammo twink vs. a newbie that has a decent clue how to play (and has better skills obviously). I'd bet on the newbie for every class of ship probably. Your back with some more clueless ramblings, A twink is a character that has items that are far superior for its level of intended use, best enchantments armour weapons, so your twink is given t1 ammo ..... your priceless Dror.
Infact seeing as you opened that door, the reason you can't have twinks in this game is we have no locked characters, classes or content, player A plays for 90 days / player B plays for 90 days regardless if they both play the same amount of time or player A logs in every day and player B plays at the weekends only, at the end of the 90 days they both have the same skillpoints to distribute.
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YouAreMyBounty Sarn
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.10.30 15:22:35 -
[5202] - Quote
My friend just text me about this. I'm livid!
You are going to offer the low skilled players a chance to boost their skill points significantly. I've had to train my account for just over 2 years to get 40 million skill points. A task that has cost me around -ú240 to do. Now you are saying to the beginners that they can grind a tonne of ISK on an alt account & use it to just BUY their skill points? Why would you punish me like that? If you go through with this, I would hope that you offer me to sell my points back to Eve Online for real life money at a rate of -ú10 a month (like you charge me), then I will just grind the ISK in game & buy all my skill points using ISK instead of paying the -ú240 I've spet on my account. What a joke! Not happy! |
Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
495
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Posted - 2015.10.30 15:43:58 -
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Zerg Xander wrote:I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.
I think this could actually draw new players
So much misunderstanding of the game in that statement. You can be better than a10 year veteran within a year of you specialize. You can be on competitive level with a 10 year veteran within a couple of months. I'm sorry you had a poor experience at start. I would try again and find a good corp. |
Jadon Wallace
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2015.10.30 16:31:05 -
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Dror wrote:Jadon Wallace wrote:Zerg Xander wrote:I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.
I think this could actually draw new players Interesting reply, I would like to know what you mean by being 'viable in PVP' and never being able 'to compete with a 5 year character'. SP is important but I feel it's a strong psychological factor rather than a barrier to entry in most cases, for example for a new character it's easy to get into a e-war frigate or even a electronic attack ship, both of which are very valuable and incredibly annoying on the field. Frigates in general are easy low entry and really newbies should start from the bottom and work there way up in competence, goes hand in hand with the time it takes to train to the next thing as well, it's not I can fly a Battleship therefore nothing under that can compete or kill me, EVE is a game of rock, paper, shotgun. People won't play fair, learn, play smart and work your way to where you want to be. The game should seem absolutely enthralling before a character has to train T2 ammo. T1 fitting is vastly outplayed though, for the already tiny target selection of T1 frigates. Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Zerg Xander wrote:I love this idea! I am a new player who recently resubbed after quitting after only a couple months. This might actually keep me in the game. When I look at how long I will have to train to be viable in pvp it seems hopeless. If I try to pve I get insulted or ganked. The biggest problem this game has is its community. Everyone says they want to help noobs but you call us Care Bears gank us while mining or steal our stuff in missions. It seems like the only reason the older players want newer players is to kill them most older players who act like they are good at this game only take fights with weaker players. The old guard needs to be shaken up in this game. Most of the map is empty because coalitions control 100x more space then they need. Why would any new player stay in this game if they know that no matter how hard they work they will never be able to compete with a 5 year character.
I think this could actually draw new players How many skill points do you feel you need in order to be good at pvp? You should know that a skilled player flying a 'lesser' ship than yours with better general knowledge of pvp will still beat you. On that note, it'd be interesting to watch a T1 ammo twink vs. a newbie that has a decent clue how to play (and has better skills obviously). I'd bet on the newbie for every class of ship probably.
The game is very deep and capturing, the thing with EVE is though you make your own adventures, stories and content. It's not like WoW or any other MMO, EVE is harsh, EVE is unforgiving and so for many it's not the game for them. For those who thrive on that kind of thing EVE is amazing, massive sandbox. Even as a newbie there is a lot to do, EVE is a game about sacrifice, patience and determination. I know for myself I would be put off by EVE being watered down into a typical MMO, this game is beautiful, this game is different and in my opinion it should stay that way. I am not saying we don't need to improve the new player experience or help out newcomers to the game, there is a lot that can be done on that front. But let's not encourage CCP to take away a big part of what makes this game great.
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Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
495
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Posted - 2015.10.30 17:14:28 -
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Coming up next, golden ships and modules for aurum that have similar stats to T2 but don't require years of training. |
Portmanteau
oooh ponies
151
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Posted - 2015.10.30 18:19:33 -
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YouAreMyBounty Sarn wrote:My friend just text me about this. I'm livid!
You are going to offer the low skilled players a chance to boost their skill points significantly. I've had to train my account for just over 2 years to get 40 million skill points. A task that has cost me around -ú240 to do. Now you are saying to the beginners that they can grind a tonne of ISK on an alt account & use it to just BUY their skill points? Why would you punish me like that? If you go through with this, I would hope that you offer me to sell my points back to Eve Online for real life money at a rate of -ú10 a month (like you charge me), then I will just grind the ISK in game & buy all my skill points using ISK instead of paying the -ú240 I've spet on my account. I doubt you will offer me this chance, so I'm well annoyed. Let me know ASAP on if this will be in the patch because I won't be paying for a subscription anymore. I'll simply just grind the ISK and buy my skill points.
Any what about PVP fights now? Where possible I've tried to guess my opponents skill points by looking at their DOB. I would no longer be able to do that anymore?
Big corps who have trillions could just buy a 1day old toon and buy it 50 mill SP. So I could lose to a 1day old toon. What a joke man. Seriously.
Final thoughts: What a joke! Not happy!
See while I think selling SPs is a bad idea, the reasons you gave just play into the hands of the "pro selling SPs" camp because they sound like self entitled vet whine.
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Portmanteau
oooh ponies
151
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Posted - 2015.10.30 18:24:55 -
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Dror wrote: On that note, it'd be interesting to watch a T1 ammo twink vs. a newbie that has a decent clue how to play (and has better skills obviously). I'd bet on the newbie for every class of ship probably.
LMFAO if you had said twink vs hisec bear I might have actually siht myself laughing |
General Lootit
RDS Academy Everyb0dy Knows
129
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Posted - 2015.10.30 18:40:38 -
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Portmanteau wrote:YouAreMyBounty Sarn wrote:My friend just text me about this. I'm livid!
You are going to offer the low skilled players a chance to boost their skill points significantly. I've had to train my account for just over 2 years to get 40 million skill points. A task that has cost me around -ú240 to do. Now you are saying to the beginners that they can grind a tonne of ISK on an alt account & use it to just BUY their skill points? Why would you punish me like that? If you go through with this, I would hope that you offer me to sell my points back to Eve Online for real life money at a rate of -ú10 a month (like you charge me), then I will just grind the ISK in game & buy all my skill points using ISK instead of paying the -ú240 I've spet on my account. I doubt you will offer me this chance, so I'm well annoyed. Let me know ASAP on if this will be in the patch because I won't be paying for a subscription anymore. I'll simply just grind the ISK and buy my skill points.
Any what about PVP fights now? Where possible I've tried to guess my opponents skill points by looking at their DOB. I would no longer be able to do that anymore?
Big corps who have trillions could just buy a 1day old toon and buy it 50 mill SP. So I could lose to a 1day old toon. What a joke man. Seriously.
Final thoughts: What a joke! Not happy! See while I think selling SPs is a bad idea, the reasons you gave just play into the hands of the "pro selling SPs" camp because they sound like self entitled vet whine. Now you talking like a real politic.
Pinky Bear
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Suede
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2015.10.30 19:47:31 -
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YouAreMyBounty Sarn wrote:My friend just text me about this. I'm livid!
You are going to offer the low skilled players a chance to boost their skill points significantly. I've had to train my account for just over 2 years to get 40 million skill points. A task that has cost me around -ú240 to do. Now you are saying to the beginners that they can grind a tonne of ISK on an alt account & use it to just BUY their skill points? Why would you punish me like that? If you go through with this, I would hope that you offer me to sell my points back to Eve Online for real life money at a rate of -ú10 a month (like you charge me), then I will just grind the ISK in game & buy all my skill points using ISK instead of paying the -ú240 I've spet on my account. I doubt you will offer me this chance, so I'm well annoyed. Let me know ASAP on if this will be in the patch because I won't be paying for a subscription anymore. I'll simply just grind the ISK and buy my skill points.
Any what about PVP fights now? Where possible I've tried to guess my opponents skill points by looking at their DOB. I would no longer be able to do that anymore?
Big corps who have trillions could just buy a 1day old toon and buy it 50 mill SP. So I could lose to a 1day old toon. What a joke man. Seriously.
Final thoughts: What a joke! Not happy!
Just a shame that 10 years playing eve till now we never had any way to buy SP and we eve Vets who have been royal to eve had to train skill for all this time to get to the SP where are now, which we paying sub for all this time
Just a bit of joke that CCP letting new player become an 50Mill SP in less then a day is just bit of a joke and total insult to royal player base who been playing since Alpha/Beta and CCP needs to get its priority rights to think more about the royal paying 10 years olds who been with eve all this time, |
Dror
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2015.10.30 20:07:29 -
[5210] - Quote
Suede wrote:YouAreMyBounty Sarn wrote:My friend just text me about this. I'm livid!
You are going to offer the low skilled players a chance to boost their skill points significantly. I've had to train my account for just over 2 years to get 40 million skill points. A task that has cost me around -ú240 to do. Now you are saying to the beginners that they can grind a tonne of ISK on an alt account & use it to just BUY their skill points? Why would you punish me like that? If you go through with this, I would hope that you offer me to sell my points back to Eve Online for real life money at a rate of -ú10 a month (like you charge me), then I will just grind the ISK in game & buy all my skill points using ISK instead of paying the -ú240 I've spet on my account. I doubt you will offer me this chance, so I'm well annoyed. Let me know ASAP on if this will be in the patch because I won't be paying for a subscription anymore. I'll simply just grind the ISK and buy my skill points.
Any what about PVP fights now? Where possible I've tried to guess my opponents skill points by looking at their DOB. I would no longer be able to do that anymore?
Big corps who have trillions could just buy a 1day old toon and buy it 50 mill SP. So I could lose to a 1day old toon. What a joke man. Seriously.
Final thoughts: What a joke! Not happy! Just a shame that 10 years playing eve till now we never had any way to buy SP and we eve Vets who have been royal to eve had to train skill for all this time to get to the SP where are now, which we paying sub for all this time Just a bit of joke that CCP letting new player become an 50Mill SP in less then a day is just bit of a joke and total insult to royal player base who been playing since Alpha/Beta and CCP needs to get its priority rights to think more about the royal paying 10 years olds who been with eve all this time, "Guys, SP training is awful, and others should have to do it because we did."
Conversely, there's rooting for every character getting max SP.
"SP is helpful for the game?" Here's all of the research on motivation -- it says the opposite! What purpose does it serve, then? Starter corps are non-competitive. Sov is unchallenged. "Fix sov!" you say? Remove SP.
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Iowa Banshee
Fenrir Vangard
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Posted - 2015.10.30 20:54:24 -
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I think I would be less against this if it was skills being sold not skill points
Example:- I have fighters lvl 5 so I can package it & sell it as lvl 5 fighters
If I can sell the SP value of a skill then what happens is "Does every pilot in my fleet have perfect skills? - NO - Then we just go out and buy them some" and the skills of pilots becomes secondary to the amount of ISK you can throw at them.
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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
993
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Posted - 2015.10.30 21:56:22 -
[5212] - Quote
Waiting for the golden ammo and T4 guns (for v.i.p members only) my god ccp.
If you going to do. I have calculate it. I have 130m sp I have sins day 1 this char +5 implants its now 7 years ago sins birth. 2008 char
Pay every year : 131.40 x 7 years thats 919,80 total i have payed for this one with discount.
Now the SP calculator : 18 571 428 ,57 SP every year 130 mil sp point and total of 7 years
if the pay 150 dollars for 20 mil sp, i can live with that. Or i want a refund for all the wasted money. |
Leonardo Adami
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
53
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Posted - 2015.10.30 23:23:01 -
[5213] - Quote
Suede wrote:YouAreMyBounty Sarn wrote:My friend just text me about this. I'm livid!
You are going to offer the low skilled players a chance to boost their skill points significantly. I've had to train my account for just over 2 years to get 40 million skill points. A task that has cost me around -ú240 to do. Now you are saying to the beginners that they can grind a tonne of ISK on an alt account & use it to just BUY their skill points? Why would you punish me like that? If you go through with this, I would hope that you offer me to sell my points back to Eve Online for real life money at a rate of -ú10 a month (like you charge me), then I will just grind the ISK in game & buy all my skill points using ISK instead of paying the -ú240 I've spet on my account. I doubt you will offer me this chance, so I'm well annoyed. Let me know ASAP on if this will be in the patch because I won't be paying for a subscription anymore. I'll simply just grind the ISK and buy my skill points.
Any what about PVP fights now? Where possible I've tried to guess my opponents skill points by looking at their DOB. I would no longer be able to do that anymore?
Big corps who have trillions could just buy a 1day old toon and buy it 50 mill SP. So I could lose to a 1day old toon. What a joke man. Seriously.
Final thoughts: What a joke! Not happy! Just a shame that 10 years playing eve till now we never had any way to buy SP and we eve Vets who have been royal to eve had to train skill for all this time to get to the SP where are now, which we paying sub for all this time Just a bit of joke that CCP letting new player become an 50Mill SP in less then a day is just bit of a joke and total insult to royal player base who been playing since Alpha/Beta and CCP needs to get its priority rights to think more about the royal paying 10 years olds who been with eve all this time,
Delicious tears you have QQ moar plzkthxbai |
Verminah Helbain
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2015.10.31 00:16:54 -
[5214] - Quote
Why did they even bother posting this when it seems they have no intent on replying at all. |
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
993
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Posted - 2015.10.31 01:10:46 -
[5215] - Quote
Leonardo Adami wrote:Suede wrote:YouAreMyBounty Sarn wrote:My friend just text me about this. I'm livid!
You are going to offer the low skilled players a chance to boost their skill points significantly. I've had to train my account for just over 2 years to get 40 million skill points. A task that has cost me around -ú240 to do. Now you are saying to the beginners that they can grind a tonne of ISK on an alt account & use it to just BUY their skill points? Why would you punish me like that? If you go through with this, I would hope that you offer me to sell my points back to Eve Online for real life money at a rate of -ú10 a month (like you charge me), then I will just grind the ISK in game & buy all my skill points using ISK instead of paying the -ú240 I've spet on my account. I doubt you will offer me this chance, so I'm well annoyed. Let me know ASAP on if this will be in the patch because I won't be paying for a subscription anymore. I'll simply just grind the ISK and buy my skill points.
Any what about PVP fights now? Where possible I've tried to guess my opponents skill points by looking at their DOB. I would no longer be able to do that anymore?
Big corps who have trillions could just buy a 1day old toon and buy it 50 mill SP. So I could lose to a 1day old toon. What a joke man. Seriously.
Final thoughts: What a joke! Not happy! Just a shame that 10 years playing eve till now we never had any way to buy SP and we eve Vets who have been royal to eve had to train skill for all this time to get to the SP where are now, which we paying sub for all this time Just a bit of joke that CCP letting new player become an 50Mill SP in less then a day is just bit of a joke and total insult to royal player base who been playing since Alpha/Beta and CCP needs to get its priority rights to think more about the royal paying 10 years olds who been with eve all this time, Delicious tears you have QQ moar plzkthxbai
Are you a League of Toxic player or what? Learn some respect dude or gtfo this forum. And stay at the topic. This is a serious matter if you can not handle that, then stay at world of warcraft. I can not stand this kind of stupid nonsense in those forums.
This is a serious problem for vet and for "new" people. |
Tiberius Heth
Say No to Features
351
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Posted - 2015.10.31 01:36:06 -
[5216] - Quote
Verminah Helbain wrote:Why did they even bother posting this when it seems they have no intent on replying at all.
They're trying to see if they can get away with it. If we blink for a second, lower our guard just a tiny bit or perhaps grow tired of being ever defiant, they'll sneak in P2W juuuuust a tiny, teensy little bit... for now.
Do note that while they so cleverly grabbed our attention with this monstrosity of an idea they quickly brought us this new Crimson Harvest thing which is, of course, a test bed for more P2W. |
Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
210
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Posted - 2015.10.31 05:38:38 -
[5217] - Quote
Tiberius Heth wrote:Verminah Helbain wrote:Why did they even bother posting this when it seems they have no intent on replying at all. They're trying to see if they can get away with it. If we blink for a second, lower our guard just a tiny bit or perhaps grow tired of being ever defiant, they'll sneak in P2W juuuuust a tiny, teensy little bit... for now. Do note that while they so cleverly grabbed our attention with this monstrosity of an idea they quickly brought us this new Crimson Harvest thing which is, of course, a test bed for more P2W.
Yep and they threw in that fail alt (Dave Stark) to try and convince any gullible naysayers into thinking " Hey it's the same as Character Bazaar just only easier....cough a tad more expensive". Unfortunately there are a few players in eve who relish this idea. Just as there are professional players in sports who cheat and take steroids for instant improvements in order to be able to compete with the more experience players, the players in eve who agree with this abominable idea are just the same.
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Sgt Ocker
Kenshin. DARKNESS.
760
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Posted - 2015.10.31 07:55:20 -
[5218] - Quote
Daniela Doran wrote:Tiberius Heth wrote:Verminah Helbain wrote:Why did they even bother posting this when it seems they have no intent on replying at all. They're trying to see if they can get away with it. If we blink for a second, lower our guard just a tiny bit or perhaps grow tired of being ever defiant, they'll sneak in P2W juuuuust a tiny, teensy little bit... for now. Do note that while they so cleverly grabbed our attention with this monstrosity of an idea they quickly brought us this new Crimson Harvest thing which is, of course, a test bed for more P2W. Yep and they threw in that fail alt (Dave Stark) to try and convince any gullible naysayers into thinking " Hey it's the same as Character Bazaar just only easier....cough a tad more expensive". Unfortunately there are a few players in eve who relish this idea. Just as there are professional players in sports who cheat and take steroids for instant improvements in order to be able to compete with the more experience players, the players in eve who agree with this abominable idea are just the same. It is coming - As confirmed during CCP Seagulls Vegas presentation.
Whether players want it or not.
This is about CCP making money, it has nothing to do with the health of TQ. Fast money grabs from naive rookies and some existing players alike who think buying SP is an I WIN. Only after they have spent their hard earned money will they come to realize how misleading and false CCP advertising is.
Trivia; Ever watched seagulls on a beach - Thieves of the air, will steal the food right off your plate.
My opinions are mine.
If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - -
Just don't bother Hating - I don't care
Why can't CCP see the obvious - Large dominating groups are bad for Eve.
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General Lootit
RDS Academy Everyb0dy Knows
129
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Posted - 2015.10.31 09:10:11 -
[5219] - Quote
Sgt Ocker wrote: Thieves of the air, will steal the food right off your plate.
We could and will do.
Pinky Bear
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Erasmus Grant
High Flyers Northern Coalition.
27
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Posted - 2015.10.31 09:31:14 -
[5220] - Quote
CCP would be better off selling Neural Remaps and name changes for characters. |
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