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deadmaus
hirr Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.04.27 14:45:00 -
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Ah James, glad to see you are still around.
Your posts on "Why Is BoB Losing" were true genius that I and many others enjoyed reading ( still do for nostalgia) back in the day.
Not sure about this manifesto but still like your writing style.
cheers
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
497
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Posted - 2012.04.27 14:48:00 -
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you and everyone who liked your post are literally terrorists. We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
230
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Posted - 2012.04.27 14:50:00 -
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Read it all. Loved it all. Gave every post a space-like.
They're in a game where they're ostensibly immortal pod pilots in command of the greatest machines in existence and not only are they limiting theirselves to stacking pebbles, but they want to limit everyone else to doing the same. |
Whambot
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2012.04.27 14:57:00 -
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Wait... EVE is an internet spaceship game right?
And how many hours were wasted putting this together? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
482
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:07:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:Read it all. Loved it all. Gave every post a space-like.
They're in a game where they're ostensibly immortal pod pilots in command of the greatest machines in existence and not only are they limiting theirselves to stacking pebbles, but they want to limit everyone else to doing the same. Stacking pebbles you say. Quite a fitting analogy
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
66
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:09:00 -
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Given that every thread mentioning the Goons gets locked today lets try that...
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
FOl2TY8
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:10:00 -
[307] - Quote
Ha good post OP. |
Velicitia
Open Designs
884
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:13:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:Read it all. Loved it all. Gave every post a space-like.
They're in a game where they're ostensibly immortal pod pilots in command of the greatest machines in existence and not only are they limiting theirselves to stacking pebbles, but they want to limit everyone else to doing the same. Stacking pebbles you say. Quite a fitting analogy
I like stacking pebbles ...
right before super-heating them and launching them at near-c speeds into someone's hull |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
658
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:15:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote: You can reduce their spawn rate, reduce the yield in high sec or you could... You know... Design a war system that isn't laughably easy to bypass. Hell, you could even buff suicide ganking.
So, you want to reduce the minerals produced and greatly increase supply shortage as a cure to miners earning too much? I think you got economy right the opposite way it works. Not to miners, to high sec miners. Although personally I think the better approach would be to nerf their ability to evade war decs, and possibly turn back some of the ganking nerfs.
Hi sec miners are the main low ends providers. Whatever you do to them, ANY kind of reduction of their yield, will reflect in double digits % prices increase. The less of them / the less efficient of them you get, the higher you pay them.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
482
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:16:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:Read it all. Loved it all. Gave every post a space-like.
They're in a game where they're ostensibly immortal pod pilots in command of the greatest machines in existence and not only are they limiting theirselves to stacking pebbles, but they want to limit everyone else to doing the same. Stacking pebbles you say. Quite a fitting analogy I like stacking pebbles ... right before super-heating them and launching them at near-c speeds into someone's hull Hm, you like railguns huh? Are they good after the whole hybrid changes? My only contact with them is in ratting.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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Cristl
Perkone Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:18:00 -
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Heh. What's up with you Jimbo, cat got your tongue?
After dusting it off, crashing Bob's party disco style. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
482
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:18:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote: You can reduce their spawn rate, reduce the yield in high sec or you could... You know... Design a war system that isn't laughably easy to bypass. Hell, you could even buff suicide ganking.
So, you want to reduce the minerals produced and greatly increase supply shortage as a cure to miners earning too much? I think you got economy right the opposite way it works. Not to miners, to high sec miners. Although personally I think the better approach would be to nerf their ability to evade war decs, and possibly turn back some of the ganking nerfs. Hi sec miners are the main low ends providers. Whatever you do to them, ANY kind of reduction of their yield, will reflect in double digits % prices increase. The less of them / the less efficient of them you get, the higher you pay them. I wouldn't worry about that too much. Perhaps we should suggest to CCP even bigger and more expensive mining ships with mre yield. Sure, their real income might not rise much, but you see where we're going with this, since ships have a fixed mineral cost.
P.S. Ship construction wasn't the point so much as destruction. Heh. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Lazarus 2010
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:19:00 -
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Wow. That totally reminded me of that time I mistakenly tried to cat a binary file. |
Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
60
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:19:00 -
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OP is in an NPC corp posting about carebears ruining eve. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
730
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:22:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Hi sec miners are the main low ends providers. Whatever you do to them, ANY kind of reduction of their yield, will reflect in double digits % prices increase. The less of them / the less efficient of them you get, the higher you pay them.
"It's ok that we bot and use cheat programs to prevent us from ever having to face death, because THE ECONOMY NEEDS US."
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Velicitia
Open Designs
886
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:28:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Velicitia wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Psychotic Monk wrote:Read it all. Loved it all. Gave every post a space-like.
They're in a game where they're ostensibly immortal pod pilots in command of the greatest machines in existence and not only are they limiting theirselves to stacking pebbles, but they want to limit everyone else to doing the same. Stacking pebbles you say. Quite a fitting analogy I like stacking pebbles ... right before super-heating them and launching them at near-c speeds into someone's hull Hm, you like railguns huh? Are they good after the whole hybrid changes? My only contact with them is in ratting. Yeah, though I'm actually partial to the blasters.
Anyway, hybrids are a lot better than they used to be. I don't think they're really gonna be found in "big fleet" fights any time soon, but that's more a failing of the hulls than anything. Would be really nice to see Gallente hulls get silly fast ... but extremely clumsy (i.e. sure, you can go 3k m/sec in a straight line, but you have to practically stop in order to turn) |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
658
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:32:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote: Well the truth is Eve is pretty ******* dull now. There is a massive culture of entitlement, even though it has become easier and easier to avoid PvP. The conclusion is inevitable, nothing good is happening to PvP in Eve. Nothing good has happened to PvP in Eve in a long time.
If anything the OP is limited in his scope when he describes the issues player entitlement has put on the Eve "sandbox", it is hardly even fit to call a sand box anymore. We have reached the point where an intelligent player can make as much ISK as they want, and realistically never expect to lose a ship.
This is not the Eve online that a lot of us signed up for.
Hi seccers are a non factor and the true content in EvE has mainly come from alliances warfare, some epic kill mails, some epic scams.
The fact EvE turned into a boring turd is certainly not because of those non factors, kill mails still happen, epic scams too. So what degenerated here? Not the non factor hi seccers but the giant "do nothing ever" NAPS and crap.
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Xutech
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
163
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:33:00 -
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A well written and eloquent article. |
Whambot
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:40:00 -
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Xython wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Hi sec miners are the main low ends providers. Whatever you do to them, ANY kind of reduction of their yield, will reflect in double digits % prices increase. The less of them / the less efficient of them you get, the higher you pay them.
"It's ok that we bot and use cheat programs to prevent us from ever having to face death, because THE ECONOMY NEEDS US."
And every miner in sec above 0.5 is a botter? Not all of us are goons who are handed everything for free when we join. (and they think highseccers are coddled LOL) The only bots I've seen recently are the Mittens bots sitting in Jita bored |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
1084
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:43:00 -
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I love this article : http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-27-ccp-players-attempt-to-destroy-eve-online-economy-is-f-ing-brilliant
Soundwave & Unifex think burn Jita is awesome.
Maybe there is hope.
Boooo dooo deeeee de de booo deooo bee doooo dee dooo bee dooo be-de-de-de-dooooo - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
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Viscount Hood
Gallivanting Travel Company Luna Sanguinem
23
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:46:00 -
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OP has too much time on his hands..
Too long.. Post is not worth reading. |
J Kunjeh
402
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:47:00 -
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Jason McCoy wrote:Get a life, eve is a hobby FFS!
Your sentence, it contradicts itself. "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Velicitia
Open Designs
886
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:49:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote: I wouldn't worry about that too much. Perhaps we should suggest to CCP even bigger and more expensive mining ships with mre yield. Sure, their real income might not rise much, but you see where we're going with this, since ships have a fixed mineral cost.
P.S. Ship construction wasn't the point so much as destruction. Heh.
No. We (yeah, I mine, get over it) don't need anything "new" in that regard. Fully decked out (T2 fit hulk, Michi's implant, Highwall implant, T2-fit rorq with max-skilled booster), you're looking at a SINGLE hulk dragging in 3000~3500 m3 of ore per minute.
Using these numbers, and buying the mega (since I don't know how "easy" it is to find in lowsec grav sites), it will take just about 7.5 man-hours to mine for an Abaddon* (hull only, no fittings), assuming you're in 0.2 or 0.1 space (if you're in 0.3 or 0.4, the mineral distribution changes, and you'd be SOL in Minnie space since you only get Kernite).
Now, we're in lowsec, with a Rorqual (hopefully in a POS), and probably have a few scouts a few jumps out watching gates, with a token defence fleet in the mining system ... so it's reasonable to assume that there are at least enough people in the belts to warrant these resources being brought to bear, and that you're going to have the materials for an Abaddon every 60-90 minutes or so.
*Using Abaddon because the mineral requirements are pretty much the highest of all the subcaps. |
ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii Rogue Elements.
615
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:49:00 -
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You're... you're not very good at eve, are you?
If we distribute pictures of people, does that mean God can file copyright claims under SOPA? |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
807
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:52:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote: You can reduce their spawn rate, reduce the yield in high sec or you could... You know... Design a war system that isn't laughably easy to bypass. Hell, you could even buff suicide ganking.
So, you want to reduce the minerals produced and greatly increase supply shortage as a cure to miners earning too much? I think you got economy right the opposite way it works. Not to miners, to high sec miners. Although personally I think the better approach would be to nerf their ability to evade war decs, and possibly turn back some of the ganking nerfs. Hi sec miners are the main low ends providers. Whatever you do to them, ANY kind of reduction of their yield, will reflect in double digits % prices increase. The less of them / the less efficient of them you get, the higher you pay them. Unless they become less efficient relative to another area of space. Say, null sec and low sec.
Then you pay them marginally less, and miners outside of high sec slightly more.
Is there something complicated about this concept?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
991
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:54:00 -
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3807 views already. Assuming that the average reader needed 20 minutes to read that manifesto that would be a total of 1269 hours that people spent reading this. Assuming all of them have jobs and earn an average of 12 $ per hour, that would be 15228 $ of RL currency destroyed by OP. You are taking that economical warfare thing to whole new level, James. Congratulations for a job well done. -.- |
Chrisfaren
Jovian Legacy Jovian Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:07:00 -
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must be the stupidest thing I've read in a long time. U my friend have some issues. |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
118
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:13:00 -
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AHAHA! Thanks for posting that!
James 315, you are epic. +1 in local |
Drago Palermus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:15:00 -
[329] - Quote
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:How is this obvious rant not locked yet are the mods on vacation? Obviously everything that deviates from Carebear Consciousness is Thoughtcrime which must be instantly punished, right?
I read this entire manifesto and it is fantastic, if slightly rambling. |
Orlacc
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
132
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:17:00 -
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Other than the "heroic goons" parts some good stuff.
I love tweakers. |
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