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meafy
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Posted - 2004.08.19 01:23:00 - [481]

Edited by: meafy on 19/08/2004 01:24:17
i will attempt to get a unicor response to this thread. Very good read btw

oh and Cao Cao it seems we shall be meeting again my friend Twisted Evil

Quote:
26. TPS begins operations in Pure Blind . . . and now we come to the present


I will say this to the one or two people that think that unicor were kicked from pilar to post, we fought long and hard against an experienced and determined Foe, that is all i have to say.
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Posted - 2004.08.19 01:23:00 - [482]

Edited by: meafy on 19/08/2004 01:24:17
i will attempt to get a unicor response to this thread. Very good read btw

oh and Cao Cao it seems we shall be meeting again my friend Twisted Evil

Quote:
26. TPS begins operations in Pure Blind . . . and now we come to the present


I will say this to the one or two people that think that unicor were kicked from pilar to post, we fought long and hard against an experienced and determined Foe, that is all i have to say.
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Posted - 2004.08.19 01:23:00 - [483]

Edited by: meafy on 19/08/2004 01:24:17
i will attempt to get a unicor response to this thread. Very good read btw

oh and Cao Cao it seems we shall be meeting again my friend Twisted Evil

Quote:
26. TPS begins operations in Pure Blind . . . and now we come to the present


I will say this to the one or two people that think that unicor were kicked from pilar to post, we fought long and hard against an experienced and determined Foe, that is all i have to say.
Theious
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Posted - 2004.08.19 01:28:00 - [484]

Let's keep this on topic, and RAGING flame free.

Good to see your side of the story Halseth, bit witty remarks from both sides, should be in another thread.

Good work so far.

Who else???

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Theious
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Posted - 2004.08.19 01:28:00 - [485]

Let's keep this on topic, and RAGING flame free.

Good to see your side of the story Halseth, bit witty remarks from both sides, should be in another thread.

Good work so far.

Who else???

Very Happy
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Theious
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Posted - 2004.08.19 01:28:00 - [486]

Let's keep this on topic, and RAGING flame free.

Good to see your side of the story Halseth, bit witty remarks from both sides, should be in another thread.

Good work so far.

Who else???

Very Happy
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Halseth
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Posted - 2004.08.19 01:33:00 - [487]

Originally by: LLeBRing
Originally by: Maud Dib
All this thread proves is the whole damn thing was FUBAR from jump. Plenty of blame to go around so everybody belly up to the table and start eating your share of crow.

Now a lot of people have enjoyed a great deal of this so something good did come out of it.

For the most part this whole thing has been about a few peoples pride on both sides of the fence.


100% Correct!

/me wonders what this would be like if all of a sudden the current leaders of all parties just dropped dead


Shocked Bite your tounge, son! Wink
Halseth
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Posted - 2004.08.19 01:33:00 - [488]

Originally by: LLeBRing
Originally by: Maud Dib
All this thread proves is the whole damn thing was FUBAR from jump. Plenty of blame to go around so everybody belly up to the table and start eating your share of crow.

Now a lot of people have enjoyed a great deal of this so something good did come out of it.

For the most part this whole thing has been about a few peoples pride on both sides of the fence.


100% Correct!

/me wonders what this would be like if all of a sudden the current leaders of all parties just dropped dead


Shocked Bite your tounge, son! Wink
Halseth
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Posted - 2004.08.19 01:33:00 - [489]

Originally by: LLeBRing
Originally by: Maud Dib
All this thread proves is the whole damn thing was FUBAR from jump. Plenty of blame to go around so everybody belly up to the table and start eating your share of crow.

Now a lot of people have enjoyed a great deal of this so something good did come out of it.

For the most part this whole thing has been about a few peoples pride on both sides of the fence.


100% Correct!

/me wonders what this would be like if all of a sudden the current leaders of all parties just dropped dead


Shocked Bite your tounge, son! Wink
LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.08.19 01:34:00 - [490]

hey just purely speculating is all sir Wink



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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.08.19 01:34:00 - [491]

hey just purely speculating is all sir Wink



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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.08.19 01:34:00 - [492]

hey just purely speculating is all sir Wink


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Halseth
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Posted - 2004.08.19 02:04:00 - [493]

Originally by: Theious
Let's keep this on topic, and RAGING flame free.

Good to see your side of the story Halseth, bit witty remarks from both sides, should be in another thread.

Good work so far.

Who else???

Very Happy


Theois, that was only one small topic. I have 50 more. Laughing You think that last one was controversial? Wait till I get to the formation of the PA.

Agreed, I will try to keep the banter out of here, but you cannot expect people to not debate the details. It is human nature.





Halseth
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Posted - 2004.08.19 02:04:00 - [494]

Originally by: Theious
Let's keep this on topic, and RAGING flame free.

Good to see your side of the story Halseth, bit witty remarks from both sides, should be in another thread.

Good work so far.

Who else???

Very Happy


Theois, that was only one small topic. I have 50 more. Laughing You think that last one was controversial? Wait till I get to the formation of the PA.

Agreed, I will try to keep the banter out of here, but you cannot expect people to not debate the details. It is human nature.





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Posted - 2004.08.19 02:04:00 - [495]

Originally by: Theious
Let's keep this on topic, and RAGING flame free.

Good to see your side of the story Halseth, bit witty remarks from both sides, should be in another thread.

Good work so far.

Who else???

Very Happy


Theois, that was only one small topic. I have 50 more. Laughing You think that last one was controversial? Wait till I get to the formation of the PA.

Agreed, I will try to keep the banter out of here, but you cannot expect people to not debate the details. It is human nature.





ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.08.19 03:10:00 - [496]

Originally by: LLeBRing
/me wonders what this would be like if all of a sudden the current leaders of all parties just dropped dead


We'd start a thread declaring everyone dead and take credit for it ofc.

RazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazz



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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.08.19 03:10:00 - [497]

Originally by: LLeBRing
/me wonders what this would be like if all of a sudden the current leaders of all parties just dropped dead


We'd start a thread declaring everyone dead and take credit for it ofc.

RazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazz



Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.


ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.08.19 03:10:00 - [498]

Originally by: LLeBRing
/me wonders what this would be like if all of a sudden the current leaders of all parties just dropped dead


We'd start a thread declaring everyone dead and take credit for it ofc.

RazzRazzRazzRazzRazzRazz




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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2004.08.19 03:18:00 - [499]

Wow - this topic seems to be inflammable!!!

Good work one and all - bravo!

Theious, as I'm sure you've figured out, the best way to tackle the issues on this thread is to take the posts from the main contenders (Jade, Halseth, Cao Cao, Notferr), slot them all together and read between the lines. All sides have been uncommonly reasonable and upfront - well done.

One small issue - whilst he allows that we (UNICOR) left Vale/Geminate at a stalemate, with TPS turning to psyops techniques to shatter morale within the alliance, Cao Cao does seem to strongly imply that UNICOR was trampled into submission by the mighty rampaging unstoppable force of the then fledgling TPS.

However, it simply wasn't like that. The whole 3 months of war we fought were very intense and evenly matched. Both sides lost many billions of isk in ships and equipment, and both sides claimed equally "decisive" victories night after night. In fact, I think I shall quote him:
Originally by: Cao Cao
Over the past three months, the corporations organized as The Pirate Syndicate have been entangled in one of the most intense, hardest fought wars in Eve history. Both sides to this conflict fought bravely and deserve the honor and respect of the other.

From this press release.

I have always dealt with honour, and TPS certainly has my respect.

Our withdrawal from P3 into deep 0.0 wasn't, as implied, due to any particular withering blow - it was a tactical move (one which I did not personally agree with) intended to concentrate military power in strategic locations. It was simply felt that p3 wasn't worth the resources it was costing.

Let it not be thought that we did not give a good account of ourselves. Equally, let it not be thought that UNICOR is dead. We're back, and we're better...

We had two enemies in those days - TPS and ourselves. Communication breakdowns and lack of organisation plagued us and gave TPS the in they needed to get the whole psyops thing going. Had our house been more in order, things may well have turned out very differently...

Here's to brighter days,,,


____________________________________________


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Posted - 2004.08.19 03:18:00 - [500]

Wow - this topic seems to be inflammable!!!

Good work one and all - bravo!

Theious, as I'm sure you've figured out, the best way to tackle the issues on this thread is to take the posts from the main contenders (Jade, Halseth, Cao Cao, Notferr), slot them all together and read between the lines. All sides have been uncommonly reasonable and upfront - well done.

One small issue - whilst he allows that we (UNICOR) left Vale/Geminate at a stalemate, with TPS turning to psyops techniques to shatter morale within the alliance, Cao Cao does seem to strongly imply that UNICOR was trampled into submission by the mighty rampaging unstoppable force of the then fledgling TPS.

However, it simply wasn't like that. The whole 3 months of war we fought were very intense and evenly matched. Both sides lost many billions of isk in ships and equipment, and both sides claimed equally "decisive" victories night after night. In fact, I think I shall quote him:
Originally by: Cao Cao
Over the past three months, the corporations organized as The Pirate Syndicate have been entangled in one of the most intense, hardest fought wars in Eve history. Both sides to this conflict fought bravely and deserve the honor and respect of the other.

From this press release.

I have always dealt with honour, and TPS certainly has my respect.

Our withdrawal from P3 into deep 0.0 wasn't, as implied, due to any particular withering blow - it was a tactical move (one which I did not personally agree with) intended to concentrate military power in strategic locations. It was simply felt that p3 wasn't worth the resources it was costing.

Let it not be thought that we did not give a good account of ourselves. Equally, let it not be thought that UNICOR is dead. We're back, and we're better...

We had two enemies in those days - TPS and ourselves. Communication breakdowns and lack of organisation plagued us and gave TPS the in they needed to get the whole psyops thing going. Had our house been more in order, things may well have turned out very differently...

Here's to brighter days,,,


____________________________________________


MLM: Gentlemen at Play
Zzazzt
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Gallente
Millennium

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Posted - 2004.08.19 03:18:00 - [501]

Wow - this topic seems to be inflammable!!!

Good work one and all - bravo!

Theious, as I'm sure you've figured out, the best way to tackle the issues on this thread is to take the posts from the main contenders (Jade, Halseth, Cao Cao, Notferr), slot them all together and read between the lines. All sides have been uncommonly reasonable and upfront - well done.

One small issue - whilst he allows that we (UNICOR) left Vale/Geminate at a stalemate, with TPS turning to psyops techniques to shatter morale within the alliance, Cao Cao does seem to strongly imply that UNICOR was trampled into submission by the mighty rampaging unstoppable force of the then fledgling TPS.

However, it simply wasn't like that. The whole 3 months of war we fought were very intense and evenly matched. Both sides lost many billions of isk in ships and equipment, and both sides claimed equally "decisive" victories night after night. In fact, I think I shall quote him:
Originally by: Cao Cao
Over the past three months, the corporations organized as The Pirate Syndicate have been entangled in one of the most intense, hardest fought wars in Eve history. Both sides to this conflict fought bravely and deserve the honor and respect of the other.

From this press release.

I have always dealt with honour, and TPS certainly has my respect.

Our withdrawal from P3 into deep 0.0 wasn't, as implied, due to any particular withering blow - it was a tactical move (one which I did not personally agree with) intended to concentrate military power in strategic locations. It was simply felt that p3 wasn't worth the resources it was costing.

Let it not be thought that we did not give a good account of ourselves. Equally, let it not be thought that UNICOR is dead. We're back, and we're better...

We had two enemies in those days - TPS and ourselves. Communication breakdowns and lack of organisation plagued us and gave TPS the in they needed to get the whole psyops thing going. Had our house been more in order, things may well have turned out very differently...

Here's to brighter days,,,


____________________________________________
Xavier Perez
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Posted - 2004.08.19 05:51:00 - [502]

The PA didn't kick Jericho Fraction out. It kicked Jade Constantine out. Jericho followed her in exile.
Xavier Perez
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Posted - 2004.08.19 05:51:00 - [503]

The PA didn't kick Jericho Fraction out. It kicked Jade Constantine out. Jericho followed her in exile.
Xavier Perez
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Posted - 2004.08.19 05:51:00 - [504]

The PA didn't kick Jericho Fraction out. It kicked Jade Constantine out. Jericho followed her in exile.
Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.08.19 06:54:00 - [505]

OK can we not let this slide to a 'he said' 'she said' spectical. There are many threads already on that - many of which ended in tears, flames and a great big lock. Wink

And thanks all again for the civil behaviour, i'm very suprised at adversaries showing respect to each other. Makes pleasant reading for a change. Smile

Anymore factions to add their 2 isk before this is unstickied?


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Posted - 2004.08.19 06:54:00 - [506]

OK can we not let this slide to a 'he said' 'she said' spectical. There are many threads already on that - many of which ended in tears, flames and a great big lock. Wink

And thanks all again for the civil behaviour, i'm very suprised at adversaries showing respect to each other. Makes pleasant reading for a change. Smile

Anymore factions to add their 2 isk before this is unstickied?


ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming)
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Posted - 2004.08.19 06:54:00 - [507]

OK can we not let this slide to a 'he said' 'she said' spectical. There are many threads already on that - many of which ended in tears, flames and a great big lock. Wink

And thanks all again for the civil behaviour, i'm very suprised at adversaries showing respect to each other. Makes pleasant reading for a change. Smile

Anymore factions to add their 2 isk before this is unstickied?

Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.08.19 08:07:00 - [508]

Originally by: Zhuge Liang
OK can we not let this slide to a 'he said' 'she said' spectical. There are many threads already on that - many of which ended in tears, flames and a great big lock. Wink

And thanks all again for the civil behaviour, i'm very suprised at adversaries showing respect to each other. Makes pleasant reading for a change. Smile

Anymore factions to add their 2 isk before this is unstickied?


YES!! Twisted Evil. My side has something to say.

I represent the post powerful person on the Face of our Universe, Myself. You can call me G0D though, all the ladies do.

Anyways, Props Chop Shop, which has recentley stepped up production on all fronts, is happy to announce that all sides can cash in their minerals and mods, for a nice turnover of profit at Torrinos 5 - moon 6 - Home Guard Assemebley. And i'll be happy to put minerals into my pockets, and ISK into yours, at the expense of your enemies death. Very Happy!

So while your wars rage on, while all sides kill one another, While All you can Do, is Wait for Your Death, Just Remember:

Prophecy will still give you ISK for Minerals.

-Prophecy

** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **


http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg

Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.


The Prop And Notferr Chronicles

Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence!
Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is.
Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing!
Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.

Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...

[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.08.19 08:07:00 - [509]

Originally by: Zhuge Liang
OK can we not let this slide to a 'he said' 'she said' spectical. There are many threads already on that - many of which ended in tears, flames and a great big lock. Wink

And thanks all again for the civil behaviour, i'm very suprised at adversaries showing respect to each other. Makes pleasant reading for a change. Smile

Anymore factions to add their 2 isk before this is unstickied?


YES!! Twisted Evil. My side has something to say.

I represent the post powerful person on the Face of our Universe, Myself. You can call me G0D though, all the ladies do.

Anyways, Props Chop Shop, which has recentley stepped up production on all fronts, is happy to announce that all sides can cash in their minerals and mods, for a nice turnover of profit at Torrinos 5 - moon 6 - Home Guard Assemebley. And i'll be happy to put minerals into my pockets, and ISK into yours, at the expense of your enemies death. Very Happy!

So while your wars rage on, while all sides kill one another, While All you can Do, is Wait for Your Death, Just Remember:

Prophecy will still give you ISK for Minerals.

-Prophecy

** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **


http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg

Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.


The Prop And Notferr Chronicles

Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence!
Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is.
Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing!
Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.

Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...

[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Propehcy
Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.08.19 08:07:00 - [510]

Originally by: Zhuge Liang
OK can we not let this slide to a 'he said' 'she said' spectical. There are many threads already on that - many of which ended in tears, flames and a great big lock. Wink

And thanks all again for the civil behaviour, i'm very suprised at adversaries showing respect to each other. Makes pleasant reading for a change. Smile

Anymore factions to add their 2 isk before this is unstickied?


YES!! Twisted Evil. My side has something to say.

I represent the post powerful person on the Face of our Universe, Myself. You can call me G0D though, all the ladies do.

Anyways, Props Chop Shop, which has recentley stepped up production on all fronts, is happy to announce that all sides can cash in their minerals and mods, for a nice turnover of profit at Torrinos 5 - moon 6 - Home Guard Assemebley. And i'll be happy to put minerals into my pockets, and ISK into yours, at the expense of your enemies death. Very Happy!

So while your wars rage on, while all sides kill one another, While All you can Do, is Wait for Your Death, Just Remember:

Prophecy will still give you ISK for Minerals.

-Prophecy

** Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member **


http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg

Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley.


The Prop And Notferr Chronicles

Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence!
Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is.
Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing!
Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud.

Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr...

[ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
   
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