oh the tears, they fill my swimming pool. i need the salt water to float my obese aspie self as i motorboat my supermodel kickboxing girlfriend while she makes me sashimi to eat off her ginormous she-breasts

True. I actually thought about going into great detail on all the mechanics I view as enablers for such things like 'burn Jita' to happen. Then I remembered that most of the forum posters are trolls and would miss the entire point of my post. I would much rather have someone who is not viewed as bias or anything make a thread so perhaps, some of you would actually legitimately read and comprehend it instead of immediately go into troll mode due to who the author was.

True. I actually thought about going into great detail on all the mechanics I view as enablers for such things like 'burn Jita' to happen. Then I remembered that most of the forum posters are trolls and would miss the entire point of my post. I would much rather have someone who is not viewed as bias or anything make a thread so perhaps, some of you would actually legitimately read and comprehend it instead of immediately go into troll mode due to who the author was.

So please, adapt or die. That is the law of the wild. You don't go into an Amazon rain forest and expect the piranhas, snakes and spiders to just leave you alone when you turn your back on them. If they can kill you, they will do it the first chance they get.

No, it's more the equivalent of whining to your god to nerf them.

Yeah, this is it. And your God has given you all the nerfs you could ever want, and it still isn't enough. So you whine to your god to get rid of the piranhas and snakes and spiders, and he does it and it kills off an entire ecosystem.

It is a good opportunity to use it as a stress test of TiDi with the new crime watch. One bug has been exposed and confirmed by a CCP Dev so far.

This is a super convenient response. "I'd show evidence, but you people wouldn't get it, so I won't."

And you do nothing but troll on the forums. Trying to explain something to you is pointless. So please **** off and die; in game of course.

Just want to understand the logic behind the game company taking such a stance.

Piracy, scamming, and griefing, all that I understand. But what is happenign with the "Burn Jita" event is completely different.

I want to know why CCP feels that even thought I pay my $15/mo just like the members of the GF they can do whatever they want, and I cannot. (Example: Going to Jita when GF feels I shouldn't.)

I think that EVE's biggest strength is also it's biggest weakness. It has become a little too much like RL. In ALL mmos, there is nothing a powerful corp, or a guild can do to prevent other people from playing the game any way they like. They may have the best items/gear... the most friends... the most influence.... but there is absolutely nothing allowing the more powerful players to interfere with, or hinder in anyway the game-play of others.

I can directly compare what is happening in EVE to a cable company. Let's say thousands of people are watching TV and their favorite channel gets blocked.

Suddenly a malignant individual decides to hack into the cable network, and blocks this channel. Off course at this point the cable company would try to do whatever they can to track down and deal with this individual.

But what's happening in EVE is more like, the cable company saying "Hmm.. This is interesting... all these people..They are so boring, laying on their couch watching movies.. Let' add a little something into their lives. Let's make them cry and scream with anger because they lack in diversity of emotions. Lets conduct a social experiment of sorts and let this hacker continue what he is doing.... "

Really, I think CCP is giving GF a little too much credit, allowing them to be the force of nature in EVE. The Yang that comes with the Yin, the spoon of tar in the barrel of honey, the black stripe in a pattern of white and black stripes... Well you get the point.

If CCP feels we need a little "spice" in our life, then why not alter those Sansha invasions to go directly into Jita or Amarr, or Rens or whatever... or program NPC pirates to go after mining ships at random times. Who the hell appointed GF to decide when the carebears have been having a too calm a life and need to be "shaken up a bit"?

Honestly I think those who chose the carebear gameplay style are already punished enough. They are essentially blocked out of all the fun gameplay elements. They cannot have access to best loot, they cannot mine the best ore, they cannot roam the world of eve without getting blown up as soon as they step out of their little fenced pen. But they are not choked enough... Lets tighten the noose some more, right?! Wrong.... Press this group of people too hard, and you got no one to grief anymore. No one to block. No one to make cry...

In a sense, this whole thing reminds me of our society, the extreme respect and admiration for professions such as doctors or lawyers and the complete lack of that same respect for those in lower professions. But wait.... We need these people! If no one was flipping burgers, no one was cleaning out the garbage, etc, etc... What kind of the world would be be living in?

Carebears fill an essential role in EVE. Without them, EVE would be missing a lot of what makes it great.

I believe that the best game, is one where people can choose to play any way they like. If you want to be a boring carebear, be a boring carebear. If you want to be a vicious pirate, be one. But the two should not be mixed forcefully because that ruins the gameplay experience for those that do not want to PvP. (there's lowsec and 0.0 for that!) Don't these people also pay the $15/mo fee? And if they do, why is it that they don't deserve to play EVE any way they like without being interrupted?




And what the hell do you stand for Kristof? People making other people's life miserable?



You "think".... I "think" it would be "healthy" for EVE if the Goons lost a lot of their power, but they are losing nothing aside from their ships an a small part of their wealth, while the Carebears are losing everything.

I'm sure you actually meant you wanted to *thank* the OP. Not gank. Because ganking is harassment and is against the EULA and TOS and is illegal and will get you executed in all countries.

I want to know why CCP feels that even thought I pay my $15/mo just like the members of the GF they can do whatever they want, and I cannot (Example: Going to Jita when GF feels I shouldn't.).

Action: A bunch of Freighters and JF's blew up in Jita. Consequence: This qq post.

Working as intended.

J

"Help! Help! I'm a Victim!"

I want to know why CCP feels that even thought I pay my $15/mo just like the members of the GF they can do whatever they want, and I cannot. (Example: Going to Jita when GF feels I shouldn't.)

That's a very good point. I don't feel quite ready to thank him for his post, but perhaps a few polite comments and a discussion of our disagreements in a friendly setting would be a comfortable middle ground.

I was under the idea that theres no such thing as harassment in this game

My eyes are being harassed at the posting itt. Does that count?

My eyes are being harassed at the posting itt. Does that count?

I was under the idea that theres no such thing as harassment in this game

And the same was said about Titans & Super carriers blowing up small ships. "Working as Intended" by those involved, until it changed but that took months... close to a year before they fixed it yet CCP seems to be trying to address player concerns at a far faster clip than before...

We'll see if the player-base annoyance gets far enough where CCP decides that corrections to stop nullsec players from finding such petty activities as market manipulation and trade-hub camping preferable to war.

That is the problem right now - too few threats to null coupled with a huge population that feels it cannot leave highsec. That composite is "game breaking".

It needs fixing and no, they aren't all "carebears" - simply put, players joining EVE come into this game with the facts that it is a harsh noir style world where PvP is broadly spread out. Every single day in pretty much any forum or chat channel about this game, you will find posts to that effect.

As such, having that many in such a small space while "end-game" nullsec is so "lacking in content" as to have the residents there going elsewhere "to find action", while their holdings remain safe from threat. That points out some seriously messed up game mechanics when that place is so safe and secure.

Yes there are problems that need fixing and if the real problems are fixed, this artificial fluff will go away.

You REALLY have to work at it before CCP will actually consider it harassment, but there is. If you camp someone into a station for a month, thats harassment. .

eh thats called war not harassment, I assumed thats WHY the war system is set up to BE able to do that