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Amanda Holland
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.04.30 16:40:00 -
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I was under the understanding this was a sandbox game and so long as you dont hack the client, everything's fair game. I didnt see evidence of any hacking cept maybe the guy in the Nyx but I understand that was legal.
Just cause you dont like Goons, or Mittani, or their actions or tactics doesnt make that illegal. Or well I hope it doesnt. Id rather not play a game that dumb. |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations Next Generation Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.04.30 16:52:00 -
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Angry carebears can always join the 'Jita Interdiction Defence Force', Their chief aim is to push back the goons and make highsec a safe place for afk miners and autopilots! 5 members so far!
I would point out though that the name of the corp kind of suggests they'd be defending the goons interdiction of Jita... whoops |
Aphoxema G
Teraa Matar White-Lotus
294
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Posted - 2012.04.30 16:55:00 -
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This is excellent experience for developers to see impacts of hisec aggression. I'm sure CCP is watching this even very closely and getting some excellent insight from it. All modules "miss" like turrets instead of deactivating when out of range. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=98914 |
Vyanr
SKORPION LEGION
0
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:00:00 -
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I like the huge sense of entitlement people have.
when you click 'I Agree' to the TOS and the EULA, you're not agreeing to have only your wants and needs recognized, but that you're accepting that you are merely renting server time/space, that CCP is not responsible for keeping you happy, and that CCP can do whatever the hell they please
Yes, Goonfleet are trolls/mean people/jerks/etc. But at least they're professional about it. They're having fun, and honestly so is everyone else who hasn't moaned about their internet space ship being blown up.
As has been mentioned before. This is what CCP loves, you can't not love your game's community using the game mechanics that are working as intended to reform itself. Yeah, you can't get that in WoW, because last time I checked, the only real economy to WoW is either players shouting trade offers, or the Auction.
Star Trek Online doesn't have this sort of Economy, because damn near everything is bound to your character when you put it on.
Don't know why you carebears are whining about it anyway, if you were smart, you'd have prepared for this sort of thing, You should be cheering for the action you don't care to take. More profits, less selling of things at 1 isk less than the other person. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
538
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:01:00 -
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Vyanr wrote:Don't know why you carebears are whining about it anyway, if you were smart, you'd have prepared for this sort of thing, You should be cheering for the action you don't care to take. More profits, less selling of things at 1 isk less than the other person. Tsk.
0.01 isk everyday ~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Vyanr
SKORPION LEGION
0
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:15:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Vyanr wrote:Don't know why you carebears are whining about it anyway, if you were smart, you'd have prepared for this sort of thing, You should be cheering for the action you don't care to take. More profits, less selling of things at 1 isk less than the other person. Tsk. 0.01 isk everyday ~
QTF
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Kurai Kihaku
Commonwealth of Individuals
8
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:21:00 -
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Sister Rhode wrote:CCP supports it because they didn't design a game for carebears.
And they didnt design a game purely for PvP either. If that was so, other gameplay elements wouldnt have been included. The way you, and many others put it, high sec sounds like something trivial, added as an afterthought.
If what you are saying is true, I never seen CCP clearly state that in an official statement, write it on their webpage, or note it anywhere clearly visible. And they damn well should, if they intend it to be that way. Note, I said "intend", not "intended", because the latter is completely irrelevant, no matter how many times you keep throwing that in my face to prove your point.
Sister Rhode wrote:Nothing is stopping you from logging in, going to Jita and shooting us.
But what if I simply DONT FEEL LIKE IT? I gotta work during most of all those hours you are in Jita. And that one hour that I do have time to log in to haul some goods, I am being blocked. Obviously, I am not happy to find out that someone with too much free time and money has the power to prevent me from playing my favourite game the way I want to play it. In my opinion, the only entity with the ability to do this should be the devs.
What I cannot understand though, is why is it that CCP and so many others who play EVE refuse to acknowlege that some people simply do not want to PvP, and will continue refusing to do so, no matter how much you push at them.
There are those that refuse to PvP because they simply do not have the time for these things. PvP requires a hefty time investment and lots of dedication. You need to buy all necessary items on the market, then you need to fly your ship to the place where the fight wil take place just to get it blown up and be forced to start the whole tedious process over again. All for a few seconds of excitement, and hours of grinding to make the isk back required to purchase a replacement ship and all items required. I happen to be one of those that find their satisfaction in other things, such as mining rocks while watching TV or modifying orders on the market during evenings before going to sleep. Am I suddenly not allowed to do so becuase some maniac out there in control of a large virtual corporation with too much free time thinks I should change my activities to PvP?
I can quit in anger... But why? The maniac would then be very sad becuase he would have no one to push anymore.. The problem is that eventually it's ought to happen. I may decide that the satisfaction I get from EVE online is no longer worth the time/monetary investment due to certain rescent changes, and then the maniac in control of a large and powerful virtual corp can sit there playing with himself... But wait, that sounds like I am planning to quit, which I most certainly dont intend to do until the option of "carebearing" is completely and totally taken away from me. |
Molang
MyXGamer
23
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:29:00 -
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As an experienced care bear I felt compelled to respond to this. In 4 years I have probably left the safety of hi-sec twice in that time. That's OK, I love my spreadsheets and I love my haulers.
However, I LOVE events like Burn Jita! Loosing ships and loot is the cost of doing business (very small cost if you are doing it right). Eve industry is not a static money making machine you need to think and adapt. Only then do you stop being the care bear victim that the goons are targeting.
Stop being a victim and adapt to the situation at hand. Start manufacturing haulers. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
503
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:32:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:I generally support anything the playerbase does unless it violates our TOS/EULA So when the Mitinni directly states that put a notorious griefer in charge of griefing its not violating the TOS? Because last time I had this brought this up CCP did not answer, and ppl claimed there was no griefing. Now that it is overt griefing you still do nothing, so I assume that the answer is you only enforce the TOS/Eula when the community demands it. The tears... It's so weird how so much of the time the internet turns p*****s into tough guys. I think this is the only forum on the internet that makes some people turn into p*****s. I wonder how that happens... Cipher?
I wouldn't know, I'm not a ***** IRL or on the internet.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
503
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:35:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:I generally support anything the playerbase does unless it violates our TOS/EULA So when the Mitinni directly states that put a notorious griefer in charge of griefing its not violating the TOS? Because last time I had this brought this up CCP did not answer, and ppl claimed there was no griefing. Now that it is overt griefing you still do nothing, so I assume that the answer is you only enforce the TOS/Eula when the community demands it. Suicide ganking isn't in and of itself "griefing".
I am referring to openly admitted griefing, so there is no need for disambiguation.
Quote:again... I was uder the understanding the griefing rules in EVE are so vague there might as well not be any.
Starting out by saying you don't understand something you haven't read is pro. We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
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ian papabear
The Syndicate Inc
4
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:36:00 -
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I think the Jita burning thing is absolutely amazing.
It is incredible to see a tons and tons of players come together for a central idea(s). Whether you're an enemy, friend, neutral to goons: it is an incredible spectacle to see. http://www.youtube.com/iwasnamedian |
jason hill
The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn
62
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:38:00 -
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dear ccp can you please bloody roll the game back to 2003 when we only had 8000 players on average playing as we never had a tenth of the amount of bloody moans on the forums as we bloody do now . ffs its a sodding sandbox just bloody live with it
you dont like then thats your problem .....live with it . goons are not the 1st to do this ...and they wont be the last . |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
503
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Posted - 2012.04.30 20:06:00 -
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jason hill wrote:dear ccp can you please bloody roll the game back to 2003 when we only had 8000 players on average playing as we never had a tenth of the amount of bloody moans on the forums as we bloody do now . ffs its a sodding sandbox just bloody live with it you dont like then thats your problem .....live with it . goons are not the 1st to do this ...and they wont be the last .
Evesearch disagrees with your post. We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
Van Rivor
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.30 20:28:00 -
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Molang wrote:As an experienced care bear I felt compelled to respond to this. In 4 years I have probably left the safety of hi-sec twice in that time. That's OK, I love my spreadsheets and I love my haulers.
However, I LOVE events like Burn Jita! Loosing ships and loot is the cost of doing business (very small cost if you are doing it right). Eve industry is not a static money making machine you need to think and adapt. Only then do you stop being the care bear victim that the goons are targeting.
Stop being a victim and adapt to the situation at hand. Start manufacturing haulers.
This!!! Holy crap, this!!! |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
468
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Posted - 2012.04.30 20:46:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:I generally support anything the playerbase does unless it violates our TOS/EULA
How's the Eve manifesto looking like lately ? The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3954
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Posted - 2012.04.30 20:51:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:jason hill wrote:dear ccp can you please bloody roll the game back to 2003 when we only had 8000 players on average playing as we never had a tenth of the amount of bloody moans on the forums as we bloody do now . ffs its a sodding sandbox just bloody live with it you dont like then thats your problem .....live with it . goons are not the 1st to do this ...and they wont be the last . Evesearch disagrees with your post.
eve disagrees with you
soz "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1705
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:01:00 -
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So many people in this thread that use an incorrect definition of "Player vs. Player" gaming, and refuse to use the one the game developers use.
So many people in this thread that use an incorrect definition of "Griefing" and refuse to use the one the game developers use.
So many people in this thread admitting they are so bad at organizing themselves and how they play this game that they allow other players to dictate how they play it.
So many people in this thread that admit they cannot handle direct competition from other players, and can only succeed against limited AI opponents.
So many people in this thread that say this sort of head to head competition is not what they are paying for, yet continue to pay for it.
So many people in this thread that say they should not have to endure a "Player vs. Player" environment, and then turn around and undercut competing players on the market or mine the last bit of ore out of a belt.
So many people in this thread that feel the game rules they agreed to when they made their account should be changed to only favor their play style at the expense of all other players.
So many people in this thread claiming people do not want events like this, despite all evidence to the contrary.
Thankfully so many people in this thread saying a non combative play style is more than fine, as long as you understand and support the fact that many people have a more aggressive play style and anyone in game can and will be affected by this as well.
Takes all kinds I suppose. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
EVE Stig
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
136
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:27:00 -
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Amanda Holland wrote:I was under the understanding this was a sandbox game and so long as you dont hack the client, everything's fair game. I didnt see evidence of any hacking cept maybe the guy in the Nyx but I understand that was legal. Just cause you dont like Goons, or Mittani, or their actions or tactics doesnt make that illegal. Or well I hope it doesnt. Id rather not play a game that dumb. Cipher Jones wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:I generally support anything the playerbase does unless it violates our TOS/EULA So when the Mitinni directly states that put a notorious griefer in charge of griefing its not violating the TOS? Because last time I had this brought this up CCP did not answer, and ppl claimed there was no griefing. Now that it is overt griefing you still do nothing, so I assume that the answer is you only enforce the TOS/Eula when the community demands it. again... I was uder the understanding the griefing rules in EVE are so vague there might as well not be any. Plus disnt Goons wardec most of the ppl they were killing? Hell then even by the definition given earlier, thats war not griefing. Where/when did Mittani say anything? I havent seen him since "the return"
I say... this!
Ranger 1: So many people in this thread that use an incorrect definition of "Player vs. Player" gaming, and refuse to use the one the game developers use.
True, so...INFORM THEM!!
So many people in this thread that use an incorrect definition of "Griefing" and refuse to use the one the game developers use.
I didnt know there WAS one that the devs use.INFORM US
So many people in this thread admitting they are so bad at organizing themselves and how they play this game that they allow other players to dictate how they play it.
so 0.0 play then? Cause 0.0 and solo are rarely together in the same sentence
So many people in this thread that admit they cannot handle direct competition from other players, and can only succeed against limited AI opponents.
Then they are playing the wrong game
So many people in this thread that say this sort of head to head competition is not what they are paying for, yet continue to pay for it.
then they are stupid
So many people in this thread that say they should not have to endure a "Player vs. Player" environment, and then turn around and undercut competing players on the market or mine the last bit of ore out of a belt.
then they are stupid - I leave like 5 in every rock I mine heh
So many people in this thread that feel the game rules they agreed to when they made their account should be changed to only favor their play style at the expense of all other players.
then they are stupid - and CCPSHOULDNT LISTEN TO THEM
So many people in this thread claiming people do not want events like this, despite all evidence to the contrary.
Then they are lying to us or to themselves it doesnt matter
Thankfully so many people in this thread saying a non combative play style is more than fine, as long as you understand and support the fact that many people have a more aggressive play style and anyone in game can and will be affected by this as well.
Yeah but more say you must play MY way or GTFO. or at least theyre louder
Takes all kinds I suppose." "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |
Hauling Hal
The Black Ops
56
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:30:00 -
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Well, duhh! CCP support it, because it is within the rules of the game. Funnily enough, they'll support anything within the rules of the game if it gets them publicity.
/edit Pah, forgot to quote, but I'm sure anyone that reads this can make something up. |
EVE Stig
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
136
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:35:00 -
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Hauling Hal wrote:Well, duhh! CCP support it, because it is within the rules of the game. Funnily enough, they'll support anything within the rules of the game if it gets them publicity.
/edit Pah, forgot to quote, but I'm sure anyone that reads this can make something up.
Technically they support anything within the rules of the game wether it makes them look good or not
or they should -.-
"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |
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Amanda Holland
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:37:00 -
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EVE Stig wrote:Hauling Hal wrote:Well, duhh! CCP support it, because it is within the rules of the game. Funnily enough, they'll support anything within the rules of the game if it gets them publicity.
/edit Pah, forgot to quote, but I'm sure anyone that reads this can make something up. Technically they support anything within the rules of the game wether it makes them look good or not or they should -.-
Yeah... hence mittani's ban AFTER the apology AND stepping down from the chairman's seat. There are many who think he was wronged.
ßâÜ(a¦át¢èa¦áßâÜ) vroom vroom motorcycle |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1706
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:43:00 -
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Quote:True, so...INFORM THEM!!
The definition that CCP, and indeed the rest of the gaming industry, uses for Player vs. Player has been spelled out many times even in this very thread. Griefing has been covered as well.
Unfortunately, that doesn't stop people from sticking their fingers in their ears and chanting "No, I'm right and everyone else is wrong".
Not criticizing your post in any way, it was good. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
98
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Posted - 2012.04.30 22:05:00 -
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I spend 15/mo just like you, but I can't go and blow you and everyone else in Jita up. Without losing my ship.
It's completely unfair that you can do what ever you like, but I can't.
::seewutidid:: |
jason hill
The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn
62
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:11:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:jason hill wrote:dear ccp can you please bloody roll the game back to 2003 when we only had 8000 players on average playing as we never had a tenth of the amount of bloody moans on the forums as we bloody do now . ffs its a sodding sandbox just bloody live with it you dont like then thats your problem .....live with it . goons are not the 1st to do this ...and they wont be the last . Evesearch disagrees with your post.
then how far did you go back ! all the way back to 2003 when a CVA contingent attacked empire and out tanked concord and ended up getting a weeks ban ..... i bet not .... admittedly it wasnt on the scale that goonswarm have done .... but this is not the point .
were you around when the saddest event in eve occoured ... two stupid idiots getting married ingame ...... untill M0o decide to **** on thier parade ! no ...i bet you werent . !
so dont give me the "computer says no" bollox mate cos it happened ...and i dont post bollox when i know crap has happend in eve .
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
503
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Posted - 2012.05.01 01:22:00 -
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jason hill wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:jason hill wrote:dear ccp can you please bloody roll the game back to 2003 when we only had 8000 players on average playing as we never had a tenth of the amount of bloody moans on the forums as we bloody do now . ffs its a sodding sandbox just bloody live with it you dont like then thats your problem .....live with it . goons are not the 1st to do this ...and they wont be the last . Evesearch disagrees with your post. then how far did you go back ! all the way back to 2003 when a CVA contingent attacked empire and out tanked concord and ended up getting a weeks ban ..... i bet not .... admittedly it wasnt on the scale that goonswarm have done .... but this is not the point . were you around when the saddest event in eve occoured ... two stupid idiots getting married ingame ...... untill M0o decide to **** on thier parade ! no ...i bet you werent . ! so dont give me the "computer says no" bollox mate cos it happened ...and i dont post bollox when i know crap has happend in eve .
Its the bitching and moaning that I am saying did happen, and you are currently contributing. Thanks for your input.
Quote:There are many who think he was wronged.
Ironically, he says he is ok with it, and then in the same speech says he was thrown under the bus. No wonder people are confused about it.
Quote:Where/when did Mittani say anything? I havent seen him since "the return"
"News" article linked on the forums. We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
Astrid Stjerna
Underking Family
661
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Posted - 2012.05.01 02:57:00 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:And no, CCP didn't put up any warning about Jitageddon when I logged in. Not that it would have made any difference since my only purpose in logging in at the weekend was to buzz around in a throw-away frigate looting Goon wrecks.
I saw a travel advisory when I logged in. Granted, it was one of those 'one-time-only' advertisements (which, now that I consider it, isn't really the best way to transmit a warning like that), but still.... I can't get rid of my darn signature!-á Oh, wait.... |
Akai Kvaesir
0ffice of Naval Intelligence
71
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Posted - 2012.05.01 03:25:00 -
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Xython wrote:A few reasons why they support it.
1. EVE is a Sandbox. That means there is no official rule requiring people to play nice or even be civil to each other. CCP has upheld this belief through thick and thin, albeit with some recent missteps (the 180 on the Boomarang tactic, for example). Simply put, they don't really "support" it per say, they support the rule framework and the culture of the Sandbox that allows us to do it if we want.
2. EVE is unique amongst the MMOs because it is a Sandbox. It is literally it's biggest selling point. No other MMO comes even close to offering what EVE offers -- and stories like this are perfect examples that CCP can point to and go "You can't get that experience in WOW."
3. The EVE Economy is absolutely ******. Years of RMT, of Botting, of "free" minerals have done an absolute number on the economy. While CCP would never directly intervene, they certainly welcome player self correction. Goons attacked the Gallente Ice fields not because it would **** off highsec kids -- well, not entirely so -- but because our logistics guys looked at the economy as a whole and realized that the entire economy is based on a few hundred people cheating using ice bot accounts. That's ****** up, and you don't have to be a Goon to agree. Ice needs to be moved to lowsec or even Nullsec, and moved fast.
4. The risk/reward balance between Highsec and Nullsec is even more ******. Hulkageddon, the Ice Interdiction, Burn Jita, these are all symptoms of a bigger disease -- the death of the PVP Ecosystem in Nullsec. This is going to be hard for some Highsec players to understand, but there are Nullsec players who do enjoy Mining, Crafting, and other Logistics roles. Hell, The Mittani originally was a miner. The problem is, with botters and other cheaters, as well as the flood of "Nullsec Minerals" coming from other sources (Drone Poo, Refining, etc) there was literally no reason to ever mine in Nullsec. It just didn't make any sense at all in comparison to mining in Highsec, even with the minerals being slightly less valuable.
5. EVE is, at it's heart, a PVP game. Everything in EVE is a zero sum game, save some Isk Faucets that CCP are desperately trying to plug. Everything you do in EVE is either working with (in temporary partnership) or working against other players. Crafting, Mining, Market Shinanigans, even if you never fit a gun to your ship, you are PVPing.
7. Highsec players feel they are too safe. Simply put, there are those out there who read the warnings and thought that they were bunk, because Jita's a "safe" system. They were wrong. If you want to be safe in EVE -- fit a tank. Get a friend to fly a combat ship or a logi ship with shield reps to keep you safe. Don't just think you can streak naked across the Jita sky carrying a huge sack of money and holding a sign saying "Bite me, Goonies" and not expect to be mugged.
8. If you fell prey to the Goons in Burn Jita, you deserved it. CCP (and Goons!) literally did everything they could to warn people not to fly big ships in Jita. We announced it a month ahead of time. There were hundreds of threads premptively complaining about it before we even began. And CCP put a warning up on the freaking login screen, which bent the spirit of the Sandbox. Simply put, if you did get ganked, you had no excuse. EVE is a multiplayer game, and ignoring the entirety of the playerbase outside of spreadsheets is not the spirit of any MMO.
I honestly never thought the day would come when I would agree with a Goon... but here it is, and I couldn't agree more.
EDIT: Oh, and I'm agreeing with you AS A PUBBIE. Not everyone in Empire is a scaredbear pubbie... |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
97
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Posted - 2012.05.01 03:27:00 -
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Quote:Piracy, scamming, and griefing, all that I understand. But what is happenign with the "Burn Jita" event is completely different.
Disagree. This event is exactly the same as any scam or piracy...
In point of fact, Jita itself is a sandbox creation; CCP did not declare Jita the place for trade - the players did. Tomorrow the players could change their mind. CCP for the more part has been neutral in this.. they love to see sandbox activity..in all it's forms.
Your 15 dollars is paid to take part in the experiment.
I'm not a fan of having my activities disrupted.. but I am not blaming CCP for allowing it in their sandbox. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
EVE Stig
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
137
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Posted - 2012.05.01 04:22:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:True, so...INFORM THEM!! The definition that CCP, and indeed the rest of the gaming industry, uses for Player vs. Player has been spelled out many times even in this very thread. Griefing has been covered as well. Unfortunately, that doesn't stop people from sticking their fingers in their ears and chanting "No, I'm right and everyone else is wrong". Not criticizing your post in any way, it was good.
Uh no, sitting in certain spots in WoW and pvping ppl is considered griefing. Its very specific in that game.
In here, its very vague or rater its enforced in a very vague manner. IF this were enforced LIKE WoW, then yes, BJ would have gotten ppl temp banned.
Thats why I asked the rule here. I felt like that guy from Venture Brothers when I was writing that... the one that is really tall and yells "IGNORE ME!!!" "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |
Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
75
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Posted - 2012.05.01 04:23:00 -
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people still go to jita? |
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