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Radoico The Children of New Eden The Periphery 0	Posted - 2012.05.08 15:01:00 - [451] - Quote I think that CCP is suicidal when supports piracy, Burn Jita and Hulkagedons... I am here to have fun, not problems, not to suffer bullying. If I want "high emotions" I would not stay in high sec, but in low sec, null sec and wh. These last weeks I moved with my corp leader to an worhole. Life there is danger and I lost ships, I was pod killed, but I knew what would be. But when I am at high sec I want peace, I want mine, run missions, trade, but these people doesn't want me to do it. If life in high sec continues to be as to live in low sec or worse, I will not renew my subscription. I made a bad mistake, I did an one year contract, but CCP will not see my money again.
Doctor Ungabungas GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 117	Posted - 2012.05.08 15:05:00 - [452] - Quote Gibbo3771 wrote: Despite the OP's clearly butthurt emotion, he kinda does have a point. Suicide ganking and all that is part of the game, if some idiot is stupid enough to carry 5bil worth of plex in an ibis and go afk then there fault, you move 30bil of moon goo in a charon on autopilot, **** is gonna happen. However when it gets to the stage that when you undock from a highsec stationand get your freighter alpha'd by 150 thrashers, there is something slightly broken there. A thrasher is not worth anything, sec status is not worth anything......so IF these people felt like it, they could literally shutdown Jita, kill the hub unless CCP steps in. Thats when you know something is a bit unbalanced. There are some things you can do to reduce that risk though. Things like 'checking if there are 150 thrashers outside with the stated intent of killing you'.
Rihiko Ozawa PushmePullyou Industrial Services 0	Posted - 2012.05.08 15:22:00 - [453] - Quote I find it hilarious how the flaming douchebags who most loudly sing the praises of how the sandbox lets them play the way they want to play also come streaming out of the woodwork like cockroaches to beat down the carebears when somebody calls them on their sandbox-bully playing style to point out what a bunch of flaming douchebags they are. You punks are such hypocrites, you might as well just become Christians. At least stop pulling the wings off of flies and tying cats' tails together IRL.
Thorn Galen Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 492	Posted - 2012.05.08 15:28:00 - [454] - Quote Rihiko Ozawa wrote: I find it hilarious how the flaming douchebags who most loudly sing the praises of how the sandbox lets them play the way they want to play also come streaming out of the woodwork like cockroaches to beat down the carebears when somebody calls them on their sandbox-bully playing style to point out what a bunch of flaming douchebags they are. You punks are such hypocrites, you might as well just become Muslims. At least stop pulling the wings off of flies and tying cats' tails together IRL. Fixed that for you. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars.
Thorn Galen Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 492	Posted - 2012.05.08 15:31:00 - [455] - Quote Now perhaps this thread can be locked. Fruitless, pointless, stupid. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 3697	Posted - 2012.05.08 15:34:00 - [456] - Quote Radoico wrote: I think that CCP is suicidal when supports piracy, Burn Jita and Hulkagedons... I am here to have fun, not problems, not to suffer bullying. If I want "high emotions" I would not stay in high sec, but in low sec, null sec and wh. These last weeks I moved with my corp leader to an worhole. Life there is danger and I lost ships, I was pod killed, but I knew what would be. But when I am at high sec I want peace, I want mine, run missions, trade, but these people doesn't want me to do it. If life in high sec continues to be as to live in low sec or worse, I will not renew my subscription. I made a bad mistake, I did an one year contract, but CCP will not see my money again. I tell you what: if you promise never to buy or sell minerals, LP store items, ships, modules or anything else to people I don't like, I'll leave you alone too. Wait, what's that you say: you'll sell stuff to whoever you like and I have to like it? OK then you get shot at. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Rihiko Ozawa PushmePullyou Industrial Services 0	Posted - 2012.05.08 15:49:00 - [457] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: Rihiko Ozawa wrote: I find it hilarious how the flaming douchebags who most loudly sing the praises of how the sandbox lets them play the way they want to play also come streaming out of the woodwork like cockroaches to beat down the carebears when somebody calls them on their sandbox-bully playing style to point out what a bunch of flaming douchebags they are. You punks are such hypocrites, you might as well just become [insert any religion here]. At least stop pulling the wings off of flies and tying cats' tails together IRL. Fixed that for you. Thanks! Fixed your fix.
URG thrash Renegade Technologies Slacker Trade Federation Unlimited 0	Posted - 2012.05.08 18:23:00 - [458] - Quote wow alot of people whining on this threadnaught. I am a care-bear, a big ol fluffy care-bear ! i support hulkageddon and burn jita just because it shakes things up! removes some of the competition and make market prices go up on stuff i build like ships. You do not have to live on the forums to know about burn jita and hulkageddon. i practicly live under a rock and learned about both events thru word of mouth from other players. and i do a monthly search for hulkageddon on google. These kind folks ANNOUNCE the event. Its no secret you just have to listen........ Eve is a sand box , that means its a ruthless cut throat environment that test you everyday. sandbox does not mean a nice day at the playground with the teacher watching making sure you dont get bullied. Man the f&*k up ppl or go back to WoW.... THIS IS EVE! it is not for the weak or un-dedicated only the strong survive here.... peace or pieces .............toodles
Tobiaz Spacerats 365	Posted - 2012.05.08 18:38:00 - [459] - Quote CCP Soundwave wrote: I generally support anything the playerbase does unless it violates our TOS/EULA And if CCP doens't support it, it usually ends up added to the EULA anyway, Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors!
Henningus Assistus CHOMB's Industrial Base 0	Posted - 2012.05.08 20:31:00 - [460] - Quote I had one alt make >500 mill in a few days by aggressively bying and selling ice, so instead of watching youtube music while hauling ice blocks endlessly, I experienced a different type of pvp and weatched as my efforts drove the local prices up by 40%:) Also now making a pirat alt - wanna do some killing, and when his sec stat gets too low, I will have to venture into the low and null secs to get him back on the feet to do more - IF it turns out I enjoy popping exhumers. So much for Hulkageddon - it doesn't bother me much. As for the 'Burn Jita' - heard from a former carebear corp-mate, now slaving for Goons :) Their corp made a huge profit from ganking all kinds of ships in and outside Jita - he told me this is how they will make their fortunes in the future, meaning IF Goons and/or others large enough chooses to do so, they will have total domination of trade in whatever part of the New Eden they choose to. In my opinion this turns the game in a direction I don't like. Reason - it 'forces" me and others to join the Goon slaves in order to be allowed to explore the game - kinda like mafia / gang style isn't it ? As some points out we do pay RL $$$ to play the game, and as some points out if they feel locked down long enough, they will terminate their subscription. IMHO it will make people stop playing and some new players stop fast, should large alliances be successfull in taking command of high-sec areas. If that happens I am pretty sure CCP will not allow it - the game is sold by the fact that you can do whatever you want (as long as you don't etc...). Can-flippers, ninjas - even occasional suiciders can be tolerated and you learn how to live with it / avoid it. But if your game-fun is dictated by other players, I believe it will be the end of EVE. Fly safe !

quAdraven Easy Co. Fatal Ascension 0	Posted - 2012.05.08 22:01:00 - [461] - Quote Someone posted : The EVE Economy is absolutely ****. Years of RMT, of Botting, of "free" minerals have done an absolute number on the economy. While CCP would never directly intervene, they certainly welcome player self correction. Goons attacked the Gallente Ice fields not because it would off highsec kids -- well, not entirely so -- but because our logistics guys looked at the economy as a whole and realized that the entire economy is based on a few hundred people cheating using ice bot accounts. That's **** up, and you don't have to be a Goon to agree. Ice needs to be moved to lowsec or even Nullsec, and moved fast. I can shed some light on you folks on the burn jita campaign. It truly was based on economy of eve, not only having fun with tears and the like. The destruction of your valuable assets is only the first step to the overall idea of 'burn jita.' You see, a lot of Tech 2 modules and ship hulls require Technetium to build, and by destroying vast amounts of these ships, it forces users to buy the hulls and or rebuild them. Seeing as how GF/CFC holds a large portion of Technetium generation, we see a lot of incoming profit and market price increase on Tech 2 hulls, furthuring profit. With that said, Burn Jita was also for the fun of getting kills, I however was not a participant. With a large amount of CFC forces within empire space, there was constant invasion of home territories that were also pushed back. Hopefully all you people that live in Empire space get a chance to check out nulsec life, its a whole new sandbox out in distant space..... "someone bridge us in probers!!"
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 631	Posted - 2012.05.08 22:09:00 - [462] - Quote quAdraven wrote: Hopefully all you people that live in Empire space get a chance to check out nulsec life, its a whole new sandbox out in distant space..... "someone bridge us in probers!!" Is that a cyno? Oh no, it's NC.'s titan fleet welp Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 631	Posted - 2012.05.08 22:11:00 - [463] - Quote Tobiaz wrote: CCP Soundwave wrote: I generally support anything the playerbase does unless it violates our TOS/EULA And if CCP doens't support it, it usually ends up added to the EULA anyway, Bannable exploit Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Trip Tease Merchants of Death E.X.I.L.E.S 3	Posted - 2012.05.08 22:29:00 - [464] - Quote I think if i remember correctly back in 05 a little pirat corp known as mOo did this exact same thing and were told to stop by the devs they refused stating that it was a sandbox game and thus were allowed by the rules themselves. Well that ended badly for them and got perma banned for life. EVE has evolved since then and game rules have changed (handjobs, hummers in the back room, free beer at the local bar, whatever) thus letting Goons do whatever they want to. So in the good sport of a sandbox game get used to it as long as you pay to play this game you will have to deal with people who's sole intent is to make you unhappy for whatever excuse they say it's for. If you don't like it so much A. don't go to jita. B. don't pay to play a game you don't have fun in C. shoot back I've played both sides of the fence and could really care less what they do and by the way welcome to eve
Tgarius Storm Empire Storm 0	Posted - 2012.05.08 22:33:00 - [465] - Quote I find the whole thing humorous ..as one who has been in EVE sine the onset of game I have avoided being part of any large group. That is the way I've always played the game. There are those in RL that love being part of large organizations.. it makes them feel secure, to me it makes them much less of an individual and just another cog in someones machine. I don't play EVE to be bossed around and given orders like little sheep but apparently many do. In this case I think GOON is a more descriptive word then a title.
BoSau Hotim Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated 0	Posted - 2012.05.08 22:45:00 - [466] - Quote Super Chair wrote: Not even going to bother with reading that wall of text but: It's a sandbox, cry more Its not a sandbox... with CCP banning players from pvp'ing ANYWHERE they want. CCP will randomly ban players who pvp in starter systems even though the players are 2005-2011 experienced pilots and choose to fight... no I'm not talking about can baiting noobs - I'm talking about players that I know about who mutually fought and one was banned because someone else outside of the fight reported it as harasment... so sorry it is not a sandbox... The Jita burn? It's mostly a sandbox...
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 147	Posted - 2012.05.08 23:34:00 - [467] - Quote BoSau Hotim wrote: Super Chair wrote: Not even going to bother with reading that wall of text but: It's a sandbox, cry more Its not a sandbox... with CCP banning players from pvp'ing ANYWHERE they want. CCP will randomly ban players who pvp in starter systems even though the players are 2005-2011 experienced pilots and choose to fight... no I'm not talking about can baiting noobs - I'm talking about players that I know about who mutually fought and one was banned because someone else outside of the fight reported it as harasment... so sorry it is not a sandbox... The Jita burn? It's mostly a sandbox... Its also not a sandbox when CCP is planning with the players ... What other corp gets to have meetings with CCP to set up their ops? Phoenix Heart wrote: Yeah. Everything they're doing is within game rules. This game would be boring as $h#% if it were a cake walk. I saw the whole of the eve community band together and stage a counter attack. That should be the response, not whining. LIFE IS HARD! except when you do that as we saw Goons "police the game for CCP" (when they refuse to do that about bots in their alliance) and get the ppl shooting at them blown up. Thorn Galen wrote: Now perhaps this thread can be locked. Fruitless, pointless, stupid. and religion all wrapped up into one and uinless youre a Goon you cant say religious things on the forums. (jihad, etc etc etc) Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 147	Posted - 2012.05.08 23:42:00 - [468] - Quote Tobiaz wrote: CCP Soundwave wrote: I generally support anything the playerbase does unless it violates our TOS/EULA And if CCP doens't support it, it usually ends up added to the EULA anyway, Or its OK if their corp of the month dpoes it but not if YOU do it. See POS Bowling, node crashing (on purpose) and numerous other such things. Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Antisocial Malkavian Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 70	Posted - 2012.05.08 23:48:00 - [469] - Quote So much for the "we werent working with CCP" thing http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28640 How many months in advance was Mittens' ban planned? Now we know why he got banned for something so stupid http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!!
Trip Tease Merchants of Death E.X.I.L.E.S 4	Posted - 2012.05.08 23:54:00 - [470] - Quote Well unless you all stand up as one and do something about it complaining will get nothing done. As long as CCP's wallets are full they will do nothing to help. Get used to that fact. If you can prove that CCP is being manipulated by Goons or people part of goons take them to court (if you can) it's called a class action. If you can prove one group is getting away with something and another is not then you might have a case "but then i'm not a lawyer" Everyone knows that the goons have a big role in what happens in eve so unless you plan on being part of the making in what the game does your just beating a dead horse. Case in point stop playing the game, stop paying them money and latter rather than sooner goons will get what they wanted all along to destroy your game.

Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 148	Posted - 2012.05.09 00:13:00 - [471] - Quote Trip Tease wrote: Well unless you all stand up as one and do something about it complaining will get nothing done. As long as CCP's wallets are full they will do nothing to help. Get used to that fact. If you can prove that CCP is being manipulated by Goons or people part of goons take them to court (if you can) it's called a class action. If you can prove one group is getting away with something and another is not then you might have a case "but then i'm not a lawyer" Everyone knows that the goons have a big role in what happens in eve so unless you plan on being part of the making in what the game does your just beating a dead horse. Case in point stop playing the game, stop paying them money and latter rather than sooner goons will get what they wanted all along to destroy your game. BEEN saying that since Burn Jita. Ppl would rather ***** and cry than unsub Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Haytrid Volatile Concept Mean Coalition 0	Posted - 2012.05.09 00:42:00 - [472] - Quote You are absolutely correct, you DO fill a role. . . . Our amusement. First with your death, and then with your whining. I personally love both. Now seriously, quit Eve already, just cancel your account right now. . . . OK, so you actually fill three roles because if you quit over this than that would also amuse me. Kurai Kihaku wrote: Carebears fill an essential role in EVE. Without them, EVE would be missing a lot of what makes it great.
SunTsu Rae Tritanium Logistics Ltd. 0	Posted - 2012.05.09 02:50:00 - [473] - Quote Judging by all the rants, there seems to be a lot of emotion involved here. OMG, people, get a life. To the Whiners: I went in and out of Jita during that "dance" with an alt and this toon , without issues , because I played smart. I used tactics similar to Real Life combat situations , became a hard target and kept moving , or I used stealth. To Players like the majority of Goons : In my humble opinion , if you act like an anus in game , you are more than likely one in real life. You make a big deal that you have figured out to manipulate pixels , I'm guessing you have issues manipulating real life. So , go ahead and laugh , get your rocks off on pixel death . Professionally , I've seen the real life results of actions that caused death , and I'm fairly certain that most of you Goon-like persons would fold emotionally or it would become a life changing event. Back to the Whiners: You also need to get a life. Learn from the idiocy , and find others who know how to do things in game. And really think about never whining to the idiots again. Else , do not play the game. And FYI , that's all CCP really seems to care about. $ SunTsu Rae - CEO , Forsaken Empyreal Ensuring Rights, Recognition, and Remembrance. [url]http://www.vfw.org/[/url]
Skyy Dracon Repercussus RAZOR Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.05.09 03:01:00 - [474] - Quote U mad Bro? Why U mad?
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 6495	Posted - 2012.05.09 03:06:00 - [475] - Quote BoSau Hotim wrote: Its not a sandbox... with CCP banning players from pvp'ing ANYWHERE they want. Good thing that they don't, then. They ban people for breaking the rules, which will happen regardless of it being a sandbox or not. Antisocial Malkavian wrote: So much for the "we werent working with CCP" thing http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28640 How many months in advance was Mittens' ban planned? Now we know why he got banned for something so stupid So, where do you get the idea that they're working with CCP from, and why do you think the ban was planned? CCP responded to a well-advertised event that was announced a month and a half before it happened GÇö this is no more GÇ£working with CCPGÇ¥ than filling out the fleet engagement/node reinforcement formGÇª in fact, it's probably less since chances are that CCP did it on their own accord just based on the announcement. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants.
Aracturus Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 70	Posted - 2012.05.09 03:32:00 - [476] - Quote 24 pages of tears, rage, and snarkiness. Mission accomplished.
Lapine Davion Outer Ring Applied Logistics 410	Posted - 2012.05.09 03:45:00 - [477] - Quote Antisocial Malkavian wrote: So much for the "we werent working with CCP" thing http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28640 How many months in advance was Mittens' ban planned? Now we know why he got banned for something so stupid I, too, would like to have these parts quoted for me from the Dev Blog. Also, you, too could easily "work with CCP" by submitting the node reinforcement form. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 640	Posted - 2012.05.09 03:54:00 - [478] - Quote Tippia wrote: CP responded to a well-advertised event that was announced a month and a half before it happened GÇö this is no more GÇ£working with CCPGÇ¥ than filling out the fleet engagement/node reinforcement formGÇª in fact, it's probably less since chances are that CCP did it on their own accord just based on the announcement. You know, if you are going to do something big that might cause a large amount of server stress, it is POLITE to tell CCP so they aren't surprised when, in the middle of their weekend, they get calls that the server is steaming or making whining noises... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Lapine Davion Outer Ring Applied Logistics 414	Posted - 2012.05.09 04:00:00 - [479] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Tippia wrote: CP responded to a well-advertised event that was announced a month and a half before it happened GÇö this is no more GÇ£working with CCPGÇ¥ than filling out the fleet engagement/node reinforcement formGÇª in fact, it's probably less since chances are that CCP did it on their own accord just based on the announcement. You know, if you are going to do something big that might cause a large amount of server stress, it is POLITE to tell CCP so they aren't surprised when, in the middle of their weekend, they get calls that the server is steaming or making whining noises... What about the forums steaming and/or making whining noises? Cause that happens a lot. Should we warn CCP to reinforce the forum servers? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 640	Posted - 2012.05.09 04:02:00 - [480] - Quote Lapine Davion wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Tippia wrote: CP responded to a well-advertised event that was announced a month and a half before it happened GÇö this is no more GÇ£working with CCPGÇ¥ than filling out the fleet engagement/node reinforcement formGÇª in fact, it's probably less since chances are that CCP did it on their own accord just based on the announcement. You know, if you are going to do something big that might cause a large amount of server stress, it is POLITE to tell CCP so they aren't surprised when, in the middle of their weekend, they get calls that the server is steaming or making whining noises... What about the forums steaming and/or making whining noises? Cause that happens a lot. Should we warn CCP to reinforce the forum servers? Damnit, I didn't even realize when I used the word "whine". I don't think forums whining will crash anything though, so... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd



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