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Aphasia Starr
Remnants of the Forgotten Seekers of the Unseen
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Posted - 2012.05.05 04:24:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:a newbie wrote:It's times like these when I wonder if they even hit the start video. I may be useless in this game, but I don't hold any illusions about the nature of it.
EVE is like all the movies depict people would act like when the control above them is removed. The people who play this game with a sense of honor, are playing their ideal story. The people who play this game, and abuse it, abuse you, they are playing this game like an immortal would. Why would they care if they lost isk? You can build yourself from nothing and fast. You can loose everything, but you can still get in that newb ship, get in a little put-put-rat and your back into your fancy new ship. Then you can lose it again.
There is in essence only a handful of ways to play the biggest sandbox. You stick to a strict set of morals, be it good or bad, or you dont. But don't expect everyone to play by yours.
The one thing I must say is, we're all a little "goon" in the dark recesses. They just don't hide it. Bolded part is fitting, because capsuleers are immortal.
I agree. We ARE immortals. We have our own personal morals, unrestricted. OUR HONOR IS OUR OWN. No country or belief system is there to force us to behave. Sure, there is concord. But Concord has it's rules, and they are easily avoided. I do miss the days when we were able to fight concord, but those days are gone. so Concord got it's own immortals, Ok.
I'll fight my own way. You fight yours. |

Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2012.05.05 04:25:00 -
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Good grief, move on, everyone else has. "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |

a newbie
tech-legion AAA Citizens
5
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Posted - 2012.05.05 04:27:00 -
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Scarlet Johansen wrote:all i saw CCP were just advising players of Conflict in Jita, which is helpful. to the person that lost a jump frieghter in jita, ur an idiot for trying during this time, but i also happy there was no profit for the goons, i dont like the goons but they have played the game to the point where they are now without breaking any rules and so it would be unfair for CCP to interevene in a non-gameplay manner,
I dont like the reason why the Jita event was done, but that outside the game and doesnt matter, the only way CCP would get involved is if $$$ revenue was being affected by these events
i hate most gankers, some are respectable, ganking miners just for 'PvP kills' is not, if done for this you are cowards.
The Gallente ice interdiction and hulkageddon are different, the reasons they are made is irrelavent. The eevents had purpose.
Hulkageddon, im a carebear, i personally hate hulkageddon, i lose ships at the start of each event which tells me its time to stop mining for a while. But its done withion the confines of the game rules so its part of eve as is anything else thats done within the rules though i think a whole month is a bit over the top, that said, if i had the income i would donate a prize to the Hulkageddon event myself as it keeps the economy going and goves reasons for people to play and make up the losses after etc
i dont like that my prefered activity gets disrupted, but there is always something else to do in eve, this game is called 'EVE-online', not 'Space Mining Online' :)
THANK YOU! A Carebear with sense! If I could tell what market orders are yours I would buy them opposed to the others. |

Styx Cyc
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.05 04:37:00 -
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Criitucius wrote: I have to agree. The Goon phenomenon has gotten out of hand. They are harrassing people ingame, harrassing people on the forums, harrassing website editors, and I dare say, have crossed legal boundaries if their their bragged about website antics (out of game) are true. It's obvious with this orchestrated effort to flood this forum with a campaign to stifle "dissent" by making it seem unpopular for people to even discuss the issue.
CCP, you have a beautiful and mostly well executed game here...but you are severely limiting your customer base and your potential profits, by allowing actions that have resulted in the tainted reputation you have earned, for allowing the gameplay and the game economy, to be run by one cultish group (most of who use plex anyway to pay for their multiple accounts).
Just look at how the outside world, and thus most of your potential customers, view this game. That's why, unless you start doing something, you will never compete in the market place, no matter how nice your missle trails become. It's sad really
I keep hearing about not violating your "values", and not interfering with the "sandbox". Well, what about the "value" of your company? You can take your indignation at taking action and feel good about it when this eventually is forced to become free to play and some of you lose your jobs.
I'm not paying for them to have fun and I work for a living. I don't have that much time online and am not going to spend what I do have, being harrassed.
I hated to do it, since I love this game, but I just voted with my feet.
Nothing is going to happen as long as btardsFleet and CCP are in bed together -shrugs-.
Of course, eventually it will reach a point when the pushing by one group of people will backfire, as it always has in the past.
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Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.05.05 04:39:00 -
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Nylith Empyreal wrote:Good grief, move on, everyone else has.
yeeeeaaaaah THAT TOTALLY works in EVE
WiS?
Mittani? lol
I've commented repeatedly that behavior in game reveals a truth about a person in their real life as well. Never has that been demonstrated so successfully in the alliance panel this year at Fanfest. Issler-á ---- Your VOTED CSM |

Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
137
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Posted - 2012.05.05 04:40:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Y'know what would have made Burn Jita actually damaging? Had they not given everyone a month's notice. Noone would have know what the hell was going on for at least a day and it would have caused chaos
It would have been beautiful and glorious
Yeah this. I never GO there anymore lol
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |

Mohadeeb
GALAXIAN
0
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Posted - 2012.05.05 05:01:00 -
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So avoid Jita. If your gameplay is that small that it involves having to go to Jita everyday then your missing out in seeing a good 99.9% of EVE universe.
Last I looked Goons had lost more ships than they had killed.
CCP has always been bias to powerful alliances they keep the game moving especially in 0.0 lets not forget the Dev feeding BoB BPO's then getting caught. Also turning a blind eye to the POS Bowling epidemic. One alliance of stirring things up in EVE makes for an ever changing universe in our little "sandbox" game.
If all you carebears organised yourselves and moved systems for a while you'd be unaffected. why can't Perimeter or Kisogo be the new Jita for a while. Think outside the square. hell if goons are in Jita **** off to 0.0 take your freighter 
GLHF
P.S. Goons are a pain in the arse. But gotta have someone bending the rules and keeping things interesting.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
577
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Posted - 2012.05.05 05:14:00 -
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a newbie wrote:THANK YOU! A Carebear with sense! If I could tell what market orders are yours I would buy them opposed to the others. As hilarious as that would be, the game won't let you anyway ~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Styx Cyc
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.05 05:19:00 -
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Mohadeeb wrote:
P.S. Goons are a pain in the arse. But gotta have someone bending the rules and keeping things interesting.
I agree. Problem starts when you have said people actively trying to alter the game development direction to suit them at the expense of everybody else. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
577
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Posted - 2012.05.05 05:21:00 -
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Styx Cyc wrote:Mohadeeb wrote:
P.S. Goons are a pain in the arse. But gotta have someone bending the rules and keeping things interesting.
I agree. Problem starts when you have said people actively trying to alter the game development direction to suit them at the expense of everybody else. Oh sorry, were you looking to be an elite titan pilot? Or were you discussing the wardec changes which I don't think were pushed by any of us>
Make no mistake, of course something like that has to be taken full advantage of. But still rather those titans were, ehm "balanced" more. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.05.05 05:25:00 -
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Mohadeeb wrote:So avoid Jita. If your gameplay is that small that it involves having to go to Jita everyday then your missing out in seeing a good 99.9% of EVE universe.
Last I looked Goons had lost more ships than they had killed.
by like half lol
Quote: CCP has always been bias to powerful alliances they keep the game moving especially in 0.0 lets not forget the Dev feeding BoB BPO's then getting caught. Also turning a blind eye to the POS Bowling epidemic. One alliance of stirring things up in EVE makes for an ever changing universe in our little "sandbox" game.
So if we all go an gank them... Given Goons doing it too is what got POS Bowling an exploit since Bob was doing it forever. Lets not forget about the BPO thing (jumpgate/T20) you STILL cant say ********** on the forums SIC YEARS LATER oh wait no apparently they just IM GMs and get us killed. I saw a thread about it the other day
I've commented repeatedly that behavior in game reveals a truth about a person in their real life as well. Never has that been demonstrated so successfully in the alliance panel this year at Fanfest. Issler-á ---- Your VOTED CSM |

Jebediah MacAhab Dallocort
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.05.05 05:52:00 -
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David Przybyciel wrote:Fleet Commander Rolan wrote:David Przybyciel wrote: ok this PLAYER LIKE SO MEANY LIKE HIM IS THE CANCER THAT'S BEEN KILLING EVE !!!! want to know why CCP dont give a SH!T ABOUT WHAT PLAYERS LIKE YOU HAVE TO SAY ???? NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY OR HERE ABOUT A GAME WERE YOU PAY $15.00 every 30 days to FARM OR make E-ships ! NO ONE IN THERE RITE MINED PLAYS THIS GAME TO CRY OR MAKE ONLY E-MONEY ONLY PLAYERS LIKE YOU !! WHO Should go back to face book games cry and B!tch here every time you fined out your not getting your way in this game or CCP like the fact you just got Raped by space nerds !! YOU AND OTHER LIKE YOU !!! ARE THE CANCER OF EVE ONLINE !!!!! yes Carebears makes eve GO BUT PVP IS WHAT MAKES IT A GAME GIVING A DAM ABOUT !!! So stop crying about some online bully kicked over your E sand castle and took your E girl friend ! AND GO BACK TO FACEBOOK!!
Who made your ship that you can PVP in? I MADE MY SELF SHIPS AND PEW PEW TAKE YOUR NOOB CAREBAER LOOT AND MAKE MORE SHIPS TO PEW PEW MORE OF YOU F#$%S !! You have a lot of mad, son. Maybe you should mine to work off that rage.
Loved Burn Jita, think Hulkageddon is okay but I'm slightly ticked off that it looks like it'll go until August, since I should be completing my mining barge training by next month. |

Fleet Commander Rolan
Galactic Trade Industriez
1
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Posted - 2012.05.05 07:07:00 -
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Loved Burn Jita, think Hulkageddon is okay but I'm slightly ticked off that it looks like it'll go until August, since I should be completing my mining barge training by next month.[/quote]
Now a month I can understand,.. hell even back the idea a little. But till august thats plain retarted. I Carebear because I have a wife and two kids and not enough time for true active playing except maybe 2 days a week,... meh,. w/e. So when the miners finally get smart and go back to mining in BC's and BS's, or just picking a 1 door system in Low and Gate Camping with alts/corpies. meh w/e Ill still play for free so it doesnt really bother me either way. |

Dracnys
16
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Posted - 2012.05.05 07:28:00 -
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I am biased because Burn Jita did hurt my business.
But I also think that my opinion on suicide ganking is valid. The problem with it is that it does not involve any risk. The ganker will lose his ship, so what. He already knows that and will fit accordingly. He also loses security status, but he also knows that and it does not stop any dedicated ganker anyway. For the ganker the risk is zero because its all calculated costs. When he strikes he knows that he will win (if he ship scanned, if he didn't he might fail to pop the carebear). Furthermore he is not in for the ISK, instead he directly trades his ISK for his enjoyment (the careabear's loss). In summary he will just win every time with ZERO risk.
EVE is a game about taking risk, the suicide ganker does not. His griefing is the most lazy-ass PVP possible and needs to involve more risk. The problem here is alpha damage. When the carebear gets caught by the ganker (and it will happen and apart from hiding in low-populated systems the carebear can't do anything about it) he will die. He can't get support from his friends because the ganker's ships have already done their damage and he can't be repaired because he dies instantly.
My proposal: make security status matter. At the moment its way to easy to just use an alt to move stuff to lowsec or to just zip through the systems with a fast ship. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.05.05 07:35:00 -
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wtf is this "till August"?
wheres that posted lol I've commented repeatedly that behavior in game reveals a truth about a person in their real life as well. Never has that been demonstrated so successfully in the alliance panel this year at Fanfest. Issler-á ---- Your VOTED CSM |

Freggan
Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations Surely You're Joking
0
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Posted - 2012.05.05 07:43:00 -
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Im neither for or against pvp or high sec mining or playing mmo games in the 1st place....unless I feel like pvp, mining or what ever and as long as the game supports what i feel like doing with my own personal time I pay to play for.
Worst thing anyone can do is complain about an aspect of the game, you just come off sounding like a half wit. Oh wine....wine...grumble....high sec miners suck....lick my balls....wine....wine...pvp is for retards....mumble...
Lastly and most importantly in my line of work I come across all sorts of people who big note them selves and put others down, for only 1 reason....they have not got enough personal character or moral depths to understand that the person they are trying to put down or make feel bad is a separate individual entirely....with their own views and beliefs with just as many rights as you. o.0 |

Jebediah MacAhab Dallocort
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.05.05 07:45:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:wtf is this "till August"?
wheres that posted lol Was discussed in Hulk5. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.05.05 07:54:00 -
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Jebediah MacAhab Dallocort wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:wtf is this "till August"?
wheres that posted lol Was discussed in Hulk5.
There a link for it or was that a chat?
I've commented repeatedly that behavior in game reveals a truth about a person in their real life as well. Never has that been demonstrated so successfully in the alliance panel this year at Fanfest. Issler-á ---- Your VOTED CSM |

Fleet Commander Rolan
Galactic Trade Industriez
1
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Posted - 2012.05.05 08:23:00 -
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Totally misqoated me,.. The loved Jita burn was a qoate from someone else lol

BTW,.. I know quiet a few carebears as its called,... but the only true carebears i know that dont pvp as well are like me,.. we let other people pay for our accounts, so they wont lose much if carebears decide to quit,.. but now i guess without anyone to buy the plexs on the market the people paying for plexs will take a hit :) |

Inturist
FSB-ALFA RED.OverLord
2
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Posted - 2012.05.05 08:44:00 -
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Just go HERE and all your problems solved !!! and be there , and be happy !!!! |

Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum KUGUTSUMEN.
525
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Posted - 2012.05.05 09:57:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:a newbie wrote:THANK YOU! A Carebear with sense! If I could tell what market orders are yours I would buy them opposed to the others. As hilarious as that would be, the game won't let you anyway ~
Store fronts would have allowed that. Sadly another empty promise from CCP.
Also as far as the OP goes. Supporting is not the same as allowing and ISD reporting it. |

Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.05.05 13:13:00 -
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Inturist wrote:Just go HERE and all your problems solved !!! and be there , and be happy !!!!
would if I didnt constantly get "the client update was unsuccessful" I've commented repeatedly that behavior in game reveals a truth about a person in their real life as well. Never has that been demonstrated so successfully in the alliance panel this year at Fanfest. Issler-á ---- Your VOTED CSM |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.05.05 14:05:00 -
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I like all the hard asses in here saying "Deal With IT" or "Cry More" without seeing the big picture. I personally don't give a damn, I don't deal with Jita. But when this action and behavior goes unpunished, when Goons see they can manipulate and affect a real company through in game action, and when they continue to do so just to do so, they'll see that you indeed reap what you sow.
They continue things like Burn Jita through high-sec Casuals/People-with-life gamers can't play (majority of players) Subscriptions drop continue to drop All that's left are Goons and a few other people CCP looses money continues to loose money Eve closes down Goons win, smile and laugh, and move to ruin the next game.
If CCP realized what could and will happen in the future without their intervention and putting their foot down, they wouldn't look like they don't have a spine.
inb4 Goon says im a whinny carebear inb4 deal with it inb4 cry to ccp moar, not crying, I don't even goto Jita. Consider it a prediction. |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
6
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Posted - 2012.05.05 14:11:00 -
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Anslo wrote:
They continue things like Burn Jita through high-sec Casuals/People-with-life gamers can't play (majority of players) Subscriptions drop continue to drop All that's left are Goons and a few other people CCP looses money continues to loose money Eve closes down Goons win, smile and laugh, and move to ruin the next game.
Reality says otherwise. |

Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
296
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Posted - 2012.05.05 14:19:00 -
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"eve is dying because of something i don't like" argument #589,987 |

Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
6
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Posted - 2012.05.05 14:43:00 -
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Mohadeeb wrote:So avoid Jita. If your gameplay is that small that it involves having to go to Jita everyday then your missing out in seeing a good 99.9% of EVE universe. Last I looked Goons had lost more ships than they had killed. CCP has always been bias to powerful alliances they keep the game moving especially in 0.0 lets not forget the Dev feeding BoB BPO's then getting caught. Also turning a blind eye to the POS Bowling epidemic. One alliance of stirring things up in EVE makes for an ever changing universe in our little "sandbox" game. If all you carebears organised yourselves and moved systems for a while you'd be unaffected. why can't Perimeter or Kisogo be the new Jita for a while. Think outside the square. hell if goons are in Jita **** off to 0.0 take your freighter  GLHF P.S. Goons are a pain in the arse. But gotta have someone bending the rules and keeping things interesting. How about you trolls stop referring to the t20 incident as if it was something that was secretly sanctioned by CCP, until the goons revealed the whole issue?
CCP has taken actions for t20's misconduct and furthermore due to this incident, lay down the initial structure of Internal Affairs team that continuously monitors the account of CCP employes (well not like it would be done in South Korea).
You people make it sound as if it was a incident that happen and may happen again cause CCP don't give a damn about the integrity of their own game.
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Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.05.05 14:46:00 -
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Anslo wrote:I like all the hard asses in here saying "Deal With IT" or "Cry More" without seeing the big picture. I personally don't give a damn, I don't deal with Jita. But when this action and behavior goes unpunished, when Goons see they can manipulate and affect a real company through in game action, and when they continue to do so just to do so, they'll see that you indeed reap what you sow.
They continue things like Burn Jita through high-sec Casuals/People-with-life gamers can't play (majority of players) Subscriptions drop continue to drop All that's left are Goons and a few other people CCP looses money continues to loose money Eve closes down Goons win, smile and laugh, and move to ruin the next game.
If CCP realized what could and will happen in the future without their intervention and putting their foot down, they wouldn't look like they don't have a spine.
inb4 Goon says im a whinny carebear inb4 deal with it inb4 cry to ccp moar, not crying, I don't even goto Jita. Consider it a prediction.
honestly, all Goons have to do to influence CCP'd decision making we saw this summer. You think 9k or so plus alts etc unsubs WONT bend CCP to do what Goons want? I dont envy CCP's position honestly
Mithrantir Ob'lontra wrote:Mohadeeb wrote:So avoid Jita. If your gameplay is that small that it involves having to go to Jita everyday then your missing out in seeing a good 99.9% of EVE universe. Last I looked Goons had lost more ships than they had killed. CCP has always been bias to powerful alliances they keep the game moving especially in 0.0 lets not forget the Dev feeding BoB BPO's then getting caught. Also turning a blind eye to the POS Bowling epidemic. One alliance of stirring things up in EVE makes for an ever changing universe in our little "sandbox" game. If all you carebears organised yourselves and moved systems for a while you'd be unaffected. why can't Perimeter or Kisogo be the new Jita for a while. Think outside the square. hell if goons are in Jita **** off to 0.0 take your freighter  GLHF P.S. Goons are a pain in the arse. But gotta have someone bending the rules and keeping things interesting. How about you trolls stop referring to the t20 incident as if it was something that was secretly sanctioned by CCP, until the goons revealed the whole issue? CCP has taken actions for t20's misconduct and furthermore due to this incident, lay down the initial structure of Internal Affairs team that continuously monitors the account of CCP employes (well not like it would be done in South Korea). You people make it sound as if it was a incident that happen and may happen again cause CCP don't give a damn about the integrity of their own game.
Kugu was a Goon?
as for the last bit action... louder than QQ http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |

Bad Messenger
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
131
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Posted - 2012.05.05 14:51:00 -
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Events like this is good for EVE.
Every dead ship is good for economy.
Goons did nothing really special, same kind of things happen everywhere on EVE every day, only thing different was that they did it in massive scale and advertised it.
Still EVE is running year after year. |

Karan Veer
J0urneys End The Ancients.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.05 14:58:00 -
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I simply cannot believe that people are dismissing this event.
I personally have been yearning for a chance to see a huge battle ever since I created my account as I am sure most new players do.
Sure my ship blew up in less than 10 seconds of warping into the pileup but it was FUN!
If anything, it gives new players a good example of how EVE 'differs' from other games that they have played; that pvp is not limited to 'special' places for it and every day is more unpredictable than the last.
So what if you got griefed and lost a few million isk or couldn't make your cut from trading for a day; this aspect of choice, of being able to take risks is what defines eve.
NOT TO MENTION, the role-playing implications of this event. When was the last time Jita faced a real threat in the life of EvE? The lore of eve is filled with warfare and destruction. This event was a great embodiment of it and I appreciate that.
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Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.05.05 15:05:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Events like this is good for EVE.
Every dead ship is good for economy.
Goons did nothing really special, same kind of things happen everywhere on EVE every day, only thing different was that they did it in massive scale and advertised it.
Still EVE is running year after year.
Yeah look at kills in Jita any weekend at prime time lol
and Goons doing this only got big numbers cause there are a lotta stupid ppl willing to undock there even with a month's warning.
Whatever happened to the PLEX scam? http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
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