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QT McWhiskers
Hard Knocks Inc.
21
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Posted - 2012.08.10 13:11:00 -
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Look, the point I was trying to make is that you guys gave up WAY too early. The chatter in our comms when your first ships started to self destruct were something like this.
"Seriously? You are serious, they are already self destructing. These posses arent even caged yet." And so on and so forth.
You guys wasted a LOT of isk on a panic maneuver. You could have at least unfit every ship and put those fitting in your orcas. Trust me, an orca can hold well over 50 ships worth of fittings, especially if they are cargo fit. Then logged off what you could while sacrificing the t1 ships as they arent worth saving.
That nightmare SDing that early was just a disgrace. If that were my nightmare, I would have jumped in it on my alt and left him logged out until every hostile was either out of system or offline, then risked it. Either way you deny your enemy a ton of isk albeit with an embarrassing lossmail on the latter.
As for the inconsistencies, I was not around for the entire time of the siege. Work and RL engagements pulled me away. |
Le'Mon Tichim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2012.08.10 14:06:00 -
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QT McWhiskers wrote:Quote:Edit: all and all though good job sneaking into our hole and getting all that set up although despite what you listed in this forum post we didnt have any chance to pull off a victory simply put you all had backup ships at the pos and we needed atleast 8 or 9 combat pilots on (remember the ratio is 3:to1 for attackers to defenders [atleast in RL warfare]) And at that point most of us were getting really vindictive and didnt want to give you kill mails/had to go so left it up to 2 toons. I never said victory, I said options. You guys did well getting your orcas out. It took us completely by surprise and we werent ready for that. Good job. The point I was trying to make is that you guys gave up WAY too early. I know you coudlnt have beaten those odds without outside help. But you could have saved more than you did.
Good lord, don't we have more important things to do rather than argue a point neither side is ever going to see eye to eye on? Oh, who am I kidding, this is the internet.
I wonder if any of you thought of this when we started blowing things up...
Legion is best T3 |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
51
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Posted - 2012.08.10 14:20:00 -
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Le'Mon Tichim wrote:I wonder if any of you thought of this when we started blowing things up...
I was too busy laughing to think of any youtube videos really
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GunnersMate07
Wormholers Anonymous
Transmission Lost
1
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Posted - 2012.08.10 15:57:00 -
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Never having posted in the failblog, Ill relate my story of fail/win that went down yesterday.
I logged into our small scale expo hole (c4/c5) yesterday, and found the c5s still up from the previous day, complete with correct bookmarks. I jump through, and immediately see an archon, mega navy, devoter, and orca on dscan, all with exhale tags and no pos fields in system.
I was the only guy on, although there was still a direct HS so batphoning was a possibility. Unfortunately when I try ascertaining their position, I realize I dont have the bookmark, so its probably a new k162. The system is also too small to get off dscan from them to drop probes, so I say screw it and drop combats to try and get a hit on the archon as quickly as possible. I rushed it since I was visible on dscan the whole time, and only got a 75% hit from 16.0 au before they all disappeared off of dscan. Since it looked like a perfect wh collapsing fleet for a 5/5, I just figured they rolled their hole.
But then other probes start appearing, and I notice an orca again on dscan with exhale tags. I check to make sure the direct high sec is still up, and the orca lands at it and jumps through. Ok Im thinking, they still obviously have an entrance up, lets see where this goes. At about the same time, a Bite me Inc helios lands at our C4 and jumps through, then promptly jumps back out (I had all my alt toons sitting on login screens to keep dscan clear). Cool Im thinking, they havent seen anything so they have no idea really anyone is here except my helios that dropped combats.
I scan down and resolve the c5s, and to my dismay find there are no new k162s from the old bookmarks I had. Still puzzled about where they came from, when out of the blue, the bite me helios jumps back into our c4, and this time stays cloaked. Just a few minutes later, a bite me inc Orca then lands at our c4, jumps through and jumps back, and then cloaks up right off our c4 (!). Holy ****, Im thinking, theyre rolling right at our c4!
Unfortunately, their helios is still in our system, so if I log in combat toons he will see dscan light up. In addition, I only had 3 potential combat alts to throw at this problem, and I still had no eyes or intel on where they were coming from, or how far away their home system was (and therefore how long it would take for reinforcements to arrive after getting hero tackle on the orca).
And then, an opportunity presented itself. Two pilots in pods arrived to help the lone orca pilot roll. They all took turns hopping in and out and making passes on the wh.
It took me a minute to have the eureka moment, but when it hit I started slowboating my helios closer to the wh. When the orca had finished its 4th pass and decloaked, I quickly got within 6500m with my helios, and just waited for the occupant to eject so his comrades could continue and avoid the polarization timer. Much to their surprise Im sure, my helios instead decloaked, and as I was spamming the Board Ship command, my heartbeat stopped for a second as I realized I was going through the session timer, and found myself at the helm of what was previously a Bite Me Inc. owned orca!
I tried scooping my helios, but didnt have the room in the SMA. So I promptly jumped through into our C4 hot, and caused the wh to go crit. Warped off to our pos, saw their helios leave the system, and then brought closing hictors to finish off the hole with some pew ships in support just in case. Apparently none of their pilots in pods could fly a helios, because I was even able to grab that back before collapsing the wh.
After all the excitement had died down and the static was rolled, I went to check the contents of my brand new orca. It had:
- caldari control tower + fuel+stront+isotopes and random mods in the cargo
- devoter + a couple t2 cov ops frigs in the SMA
- lots of moros+rev ammo, numerous cap mods (triage, siege, cap armor rep and rr) in the corp divisions, and assorted mods+ fittings
Ie, it wasnt just a closing orca. It was an expo orca chock full of goodies :) |
Le'Mon Tichim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2012.08.10 18:30:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Le'Mon Tichim wrote:I wonder if any of you thought of this when we started blowing things up... I was too busy laughing to think of any youtube videos really Also, the only one of you that even decided to somewhat defend his home was your CEO I guess, which is appropriate, so GFGF to him? From that I could tell from the vantage point in my POS bashing vindi it seemed like all the rest of you did was and right click -> self destruct and then ship up in an ECM fleet after you bored us to death, which was way after all your towers were already dead. Note: I'm not saying that isnt a legitimate strategy, but you really aren't in a position to be chestbeating bro.
Which one? The one that, from the looks of things, kamikazed you all, or the one who snuck out in the middle of the night while he too bashed us for not throwing all those ships at you?
Legion is best T3 |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
51
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Posted - 2012.08.10 18:44:00 -
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Le'Mon Tichim wrote:
Which one? The one that, from the looks of things, kamikazed you all, or the one who snuck out in the middle of the night while he too bashed us for not throwing all those ships at you?
I was unaware there was two of them
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Le'Mon Tichim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2012.08.10 18:51:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Le'Mon Tichim wrote:
Which one? The one that, from the looks of things, kamikazed you all, or the one who snuck out in the middle of the night while he too bashed us for not throwing all those ships at you?
I was unaware there was two of them
Very convoluted, the system was. One founded the corp because he had the skills, while the other was technically in charge. Neither of them really did anything aside from spending weeks together out in null.
Legion is best T3 |
Tisisan
Hard Knocks Inc.
6
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Posted - 2012.08.10 18:56:00 -
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QT McWhiskers wrote:Quote:Edit: all and all though good job sneaking into our hole and getting all that set up although despite what you listed in this forum post we didnt have any chance to pull off a victory simply put you all had backup ships at the pos and we needed atleast 8 or 9 combat pilots on (remember the ratio is 3:to1 for attackers to defenders [atleast in RL warfare]) And at that point most of us were getting really vindictive and didnt want to give you kill mails/had to go so left it up to 2 toons. I never said victory, I said options. You guys did well getting your orcas out. It took us completely by surprise and we werent ready for that. Good job. The point I was trying to make is that you guys gave up WAY too early. I know you coudlnt have beaten those odds without outside help. But you could have saved more than you did.
I'm not surprised the orca breakout took you buy surprise QT, since you weren't even there. Those of us who WERE there were not taken by surprise. We were just out numbered and out ECMed. You really need to stop broadcasting opinions you know nothing about.
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Tasiv Deka
Applied Dynamics
47
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Posted - 2012.08.10 19:04:00 -
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QT McWhiskers wrote:Quote:Edit: all and all though good job sneaking into our hole and getting all that set up although despite what you listed in this forum post we didnt have any chance to pull off a victory simply put you all had backup ships at the pos and we needed atleast 8 or 9 combat pilots on (remember the ratio is 3:to1 for attackers to defenders [atleast in RL warfare]) And at that point most of us were getting really vindictive and didnt want to give you kill mails/had to go so left it up to 2 toons. I never said victory, I said options. You guys did well getting your orcas out. It took us completely by surprise and we werent ready for that. Good job. The point I was trying to make is that you guys gave up WAY too early. I know you coudlnt have beaten those odds without outside help. But you could have saved more than you did.
Like i said, sadly real life made us have to give up too early, but all in all both sides did really well in atleast one regard, i will also say this, you all are entertaining in local.
Well this is a dark road I started walking down, oh well at least I brought a lantern this time. |
Malception
The Scope
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.08.10 19:07:00 -
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I sense a bit of dissention in the ranks. |
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Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
51
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Posted - 2012.08.10 19:22:00 -
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Tasiv Deka wrote:Like i said, sadly real life made us have to give up too early, but all in all both sides did really well in atleast one regard, i will also say this, you all are entertaining in local.
I'm a little butthurt you didn't turn off the PW's, did you actually have roles to do that?
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Tasiv Deka
Immortal Syndicate
47
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Posted - 2012.08.10 19:40:00 -
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Ayeson wrote:Tasiv Deka wrote:Like i said, sadly real life made us have to give up too early, but all in all both sides did really well in atleast one regard, i will also say this, you all are entertaining in local. I'm a little butthurt you didn't turn off the PW's, did you actually have roles to do that?
actually i did about 5 minutes before everyone else logged, and by then well there wasnt really much left, that and at the time i didnt know how to edit the pos, i could have yanked fuel but that was all i knew how to do at the time.
Well this is a dark road I started walking down, oh well at least I brought a lantern this time. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
51
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:47:00 -
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Tasiv Deka wrote:
actually i did about 5 minutes before everyone else logged, and by then well there wasnt really much left, that and at the time i didnt know how to edit the pos, i could have yanked fuel but that was all i knew how to do at the time.
Well, there's always next time
Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
TheParadine
Imperial Collective
0
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Posted - 2012.08.13 22:32:00 -
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We were just cycling our C2 static. Our scout jumps in and reports some ships on scan, including a legion. He starts looking for the posses and then he says the legion is sitting outside his forcefield dropping probes. We decided to try and kill him with some bombers. So the scout gets in position for a warp-in. Once he's in position we all jump in and warp to our scout. We melted the faction fitted legion, killed his pod and warped out before the pos started shooting us.
http://icol.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14301808
1.2 bil isk destroyed
And this is why you shouldn't drop probes outside your pos  |
Rroff
The Xenodus Initiative.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
27
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Posted - 2012.08.13 23:08:00 -
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Or you drop probes off POS in something that has buffer :D Nice kill. |
killroy v2
Thorn Project
Black Thorne Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.08.14 00:38:00 -
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what i wanna know is whether or not he got the loot |
Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
191
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Posted - 2012.08.14 01:51:00 -
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Simple one today. Running C3 anoms in an Archon...
Should have used a Drake
Alliance Diplomat, Recruiter |
TheParadine
Imperial Collective
0
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Posted - 2012.08.14 02:16:00 -
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killroy v2 wrote:what i wanna know is whether or not he got the loot
Unfortunately that part is some fail of our own  Someone shot the wreck before we knew what had dropped |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1048
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Posted - 2012.08.14 10:41:00 -
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Not sure who was the biggest fail, me not securing our small C3 PVE op properly, or the Transmission Lost 9-man (or ten, an Arazu missing from the mails I think) squad losing a Loki, Buzzard and ISK efficiency in what was a pretty standard static-rolling gank:
http://deadonarrival.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14322752
We got all the early warnings, that Loki and a Buzzard with probes on scan, but I had three nights of festival extravaganza behind me and mostly just thought well **** it, so when the Loki jumped us, I gave the orders to kill it. When the Devoter appeared on scan, I called the gtfo but too late, then kept all dps on the Loki which melted. How they managed to lose the Buzzard is beyond me.
We would have given you guys a proper fight afterwards, but you podded my whole squad to hisec... I had plenty of time to slow-boat out of the bubble, and someone's point range in my pod 
This is also a belated "GF", I was too busy getting my pod out to give it in local. Let's both be less fail next time 
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Indo Nira
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD
Exhale.
11
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Posted - 2012.08.14 10:45:00 -
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Roime wrote: but I had three nights of festival extravaganza behind me and mostly just thought well **** it
was this sziget by any chance? :P |
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Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1048
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Posted - 2012.08.14 10:50:00 -
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Flow Festival in Helsinki. Was awesome :)
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Lucius Arcturus
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
196
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Posted - 2012.08.14 20:03:00 -
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Big fail, just in time for Christmas
TL;DR: We stumbled upon three simultaneously dropped force fields in one WH. We took 116 ships.
Taggart Website
Taggart Blog
Taggart WH Sales |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1051
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Posted - 2012.08.14 23:58:00 -
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^ uhhhh <3
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
298
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Posted - 2012.08.15 02:48:00 -
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Are there points for POS style?
http://tinypic.com/r/2w3utlt/6
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Vjorn Angannon
Middleton and Mercer LLP
Exotic Matter Coalition
42
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Posted - 2012.08.15 07:15:00 -
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ROFL!
I was just in there a few minutes ago...... |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.08.16 11:04:00 -
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Oh my 
How much that was in ISK?.. |
Arkturus McFadden
Sonoran Shadow
Black Mesa Complex
185
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Posted - 2012.08.16 13:33:00 -
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WELL...
Just several days ago we had a cascade of fail for about a week.
TL got some NICE kills on our boys due to epic fail.
Does that count or no?  |
Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion
Talocan United
429
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Posted - 2012.08.16 13:37:00 -
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Arkturus McFadden wrote:Just several days ago we had a cascade of fail for about a week.
Wha |
Arkturus McFadden
Sonoran Shadow
Black Mesa Complex
185
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Posted - 2012.08.16 13:49:00 -
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shut up, my coffee was brewing when I wrote that..
What I should have written was..
Quote:For about a week, we had a cascade of fail on a momentous scale!
TL took advantage of said nonstop fail with nice kills and being in the right place at the right time!
Better I hope! If not, well it seems the fail has transfered to writing sentences that make sense. I prefer that over losing ships though! |
Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion
Talocan United
429
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Posted - 2012.08.16 13:51:00 -
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Arkturus McFadden wrote:shut up, my coffee was brewing when I wrote that..
Oh, I know that feeling. Try teaching high-octane kindergarten classes after forgetting your morning coffee.
BUUUUUUHHHHHHHH |
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