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Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:37:00 -
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How about this:
Off grid boosters give half the effect. On-grid boosters give full effect. |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
304
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:00:00 -
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Katarina Reid wrote:i think on grid can be good but refund me the 5b spent on my alt or give me the sp back
The longer they delay in correcting this, the more painful it will be.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
304
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:03:00 -
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Dooblay
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
1257
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Posted - 2012.03.15 12:32:00 -
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Katarina Reid wrote:i think on grid can be good but refund me the 5b spent on my alt or give me the sp back
Yeah...no. You can use your alt as an on grid fleet booster or sell it. No reason to refund SP for a change like this.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
8
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Posted - 2012.03.16 17:30:00 -
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I can agree it needs fixing, but what else can solo players do? I mean shall we say you should fix the blob? its very hard for solo players in eve due to local, intel, blobs, gangs etc. So we got to have some advantage, right?
But yes i agree its not right for large gangs as such. Those nice loki boosters sat in a POS
So i suggest
Allow it for small gangs up to 5 people in fleet anything more its grid only
Do not allow if the booster is in a POS - AT ALL |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Retribution
Amarr 7th Fleet
45
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Posted - 2012.03.21 00:50:00 -
[246] - Quote
bump |
Joyelle
State War Academy
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.03.21 01:04:00 -
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When will CCP create a dislike button for these forums?
You suggestion doesn't suit me so -1. |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
305
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Posted - 2012.03.22 14:24:00 -
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tiberiusric wrote:I can agree it needs fixing, but what else can solo players do? I mean shall we say you should fix the blob? its very hard for solo players in eve due to local, intel, blobs, gangs etc. So we got to have some advantage, right?
But yes i agree its not right for large gangs as such. Those nice loki boosters sat in a POS
So i suggest
Allow it for small gangs up to 5 people in fleet anything more its grid only
Do not allow if the booster is in a POS - AT ALL
It is killing solo.
When you are flying with a booster alt in your fleet you are not solo. There are a few places I don't eve try to get any fights anymore because there will be super charged hookbill orbitting me at 30k sensor damping me so I can't even lock it, even though I am in a cruiser. Its ridiculous enough to make fine with not signing in.
There is no decent way for a solo pilot to combat that.
BTW I am finding allot of great solo fights in faction war doing plexes (once you learn how to avoid those with the booster alts.) You may want to give it a try.
That said if they want to give crews that give the same exact bonuses as a maxed out booster alts but would be destroyed like other mods, I wouldn't mind. It would be a way that people who don't like flying with alts can still be competitive solo and wouldn't nerf the booster alts.
The booster alts would be the cheaper option in the long run.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
226
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Posted - 2012.03.22 15:56:00 -
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It's not just solo that it's killing, it's also harmful to new players and corps starting out in PVP. Because we're in danger of getting into a position where people believe that they need a booster pilot to be able to compete. The above reference to "solo" pilots needing a booster alt is evidence of that. At which point there's a great danger of new players thinking "this is stupid" and of going back to PVEing or logging off.
Now, sure, this is really a problem with warfare links in general, rather than off-grid alts, but on-grid boosters are more visible so easier to scout, more vulnerable and are trickier to manage as an alt. |
JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy
Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2012.03.22 16:09:00 -
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+1 |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Villore Accords
144
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Posted - 2012.03.22 16:27:00 -
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tiberiusric wrote:I can agree it needs fixing, but what else can solo players do? We can continue to speak out against off-grid boosters (Ship + boosting alt is not solo).
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zero2espect
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
47
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Posted - 2012.03.31 22:43:00 -
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+1.
you could link this easily in the UI by adding it to the watch list. if the booster is "on grid" in your watchlist (whether you have him/her on the watch list or not) you get the bonuses. the booster could be in a different color so that you instantly know, who is giving bonuses and why, if not.
this is long over due.
bringing skill back into the game instead of "automatic pilot" alts is a grand idea. |
Pink Marshmellow
Caucasian Culture Club
Narwhals Ate My Duck
24
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Posted - 2012.04.01 02:25:00 -
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zero2espect wrote:+1.
you could link this easily in the UI by adding it to the watch list. if the booster is "on grid" in your watchlist (whether you have him/her on the watch list or not) you get the bonuses. the booster could be in a different color so that you instantly know, who is giving bonuses and why, if not.
this is long over due.
bringing skill back into the game instead of "automatic pilot" alts is a grand idea.
Since when was pressing F1 considered skill? |
Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
85
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Posted - 2012.04.01 15:24:00 -
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The OP couldn't be more wrong if they lived in Wrongville.
Sure, limit boosts to on-grid. That won't have the effect you think it will. |
Kade Jeekin
Kinda'Shujaa
11
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Posted - 2012.04.01 20:46:00 -
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Just remove the Command Processor module. Hey presto no 6-link ship alts. Fleet Command ships get back their eminence in gang bonuses. It wouldn't stop POSsed-up Fleet Command alts, of course, but it's a move towards balance |
Jerick Ludhowe
Wraiths of Abaddon
CELESTIAL ORDER RISING PHEONIX
59
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Posted - 2012.04.04 21:38:00 -
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Pink Marshmellow wrote:
Since when was pressing F1 considered skill?
Get out of your drake and you will notice that the game requires a bit more effort than simply pressing F1.
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Zircon Dasher
125
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Posted - 2012.04.04 22:58:00 -
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Kade Jeekin wrote:Just remove the Command Processor module. Hey presto no 6-link ship alts. Fleet Command ships get back their eminence in gang bonuses. It wouldn't stop POSsed-up Fleet Command alts, of course, but it's a move towards balance
This.
We need more POS shooting in EVE amirite? |
Adrian Slave Toucher
Slave Touchers
0
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Posted - 2012.04.05 00:58:00 -
[258] - Quote
+1 |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
1507
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Posted - 2012.04.13 13:38:00 -
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I am happy that they posed the question at Fanfest and CCP responded favorably in that they want gang links on grid as well. I can't wait to start popping me some command ships!
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
321
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:46:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:I am happy that they posed the question at Fanfest and CCP responded favorably in that they want gang links on grid as well. I can't wait to start popping me some command ships!
I missed this. Where/when did this come up?
It seems CCP is reading what the players want. I am glad to hear it.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
1510
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Posted - 2012.04.13 15:53:00 -
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I don't remember which panel it was on but during the Q&A someone asked if CCP ever intended on making fleet boosters be on grid. I believe it was Torfifrans that answered and stated that they did want fleet boosters to be part of the fight and on grid. I will see if I can find a link.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
1619
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:25:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLi1J9YrkM&list=PLDDA989F65CD6E98A&index=5&feature=plpp_video
Here it is... 37:30. Sorry...it wasn't Torfi but someone else. I forget his name.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Vaurion Infara
Beyond Divinity Inc
Excuses.
56
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:42:00 -
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To the front page, this is the most pressing issue in pvp in my opinion.
MickeyFinn > Fyi Vaurion Infara is a bad apple in a bunch of good ones. Dont let his big mouth and moods bring you down! If anyone lives near him RL get him LAID! would help him a ton. Fly safe and gods speed. |
El Geo
Pathfinders.
Mining For Profit Alliance
26
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Posted - 2012.05.11 12:36:00 -
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Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players
like transfering the static ded sites to the constellations anomaly lists? |
Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
2
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Posted - 2012.05.11 19:47:00 -
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I'm not so sure that they need to be limited to on grid, but perhaps limit the range to <10AU and require that you not be within 100km of a POS or something. |
Felsusguy
Try-Cycle Mining Industry
7
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Posted - 2012.05.11 20:46:00 -
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TrollFace TrololMcFluf wrote:It seem you guys spend more time crying your eyes out on the forum rather than adapting and pvping
Would you like a tissue
I love how a suggestion that would actually make PVP more challenging is considered whining.
It doesn't require any adapting to just hide in a desolate system. That's how we all start out. |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
493
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Posted - 2012.07.23 17:43:00 -
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Any csm interested in this?
It is especially lame for the small scale pvp we get in faction war.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
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nomlet
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.07.24 04:53:00 -
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Initially I was against this, but after reading all of the responses I've been convinced. It's a good idea.
+1 |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
516
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Posted - 2012.08.02 21:30:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:paritybit wrote:Gang links should only apply to the grid where they are active.
Off-grid gang links these days are pretty popular with "solo" players and small groups that operate in a single solar system. I believe that if a pilot and ship are affecting your on-grid combat, they should be on-grid with you so that there is a chance to eliminate the force multiplier. This is already the case with every other ship and module that affects combat unless you count assigned fighters -- and in that case you can destroy the fighters to eliminate their effect.
I have no problem with gang links in general as I've been the beneficiary probably more often than the victim, but someone ought to be at the helm and the ship ought to be vulnerable to counterattack.
Likely the main detractors will say that since a gang linked ship has to be uncloaked to provide bonuses it is vulnerable -- but this isn't true if the ship is at a POS. This means that the whole fleet has to stay together in the system. Eg: you cant have the heavy ships shooting a POS and the lights camping the in gate..
Sure you could they just both wouldn't get the bonuses.
Malcanis wrote:
Also, the Fleet Command ships will need to be reworked to be able to have buffer tanks comporable to the Damnation; the Eos and the Claymore will need to lose their lolrep bonuses in favour of some kind of EHP boost. Shield tanking Fleet Commands may also need their slot layout revising, as the Command Processors replace tanking mids..
This seems reasonable.
Malcanis wrote:
Being required to be on grid would make T3 gangboosters effectively useless.
Well maybe. I really don't know would you still maybe have one in a t3 fleet? Yeah you would probably not want to run the no tank all booster variety but whether any sort of fits with a booster would ever be viable I don't know.
But even if your right the advantages to eve combat as a whole I think far outweigh nerfing the effectiveness of this one ability that t3s have.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
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Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
97
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Posted - 2012.08.03 01:24:00 -
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Overall, I support this proposal. I would like to see a more nuanced change where you had to be within X AU, X km away from a POS/station/gate (unless the fleet is on grid with you), no boosts from inside the POS bubble, etc. (at the end of the day, if you're uncloaked and outside of a POS, you're vulnerable). However, as a quick and initial fix, I support this. |
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