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Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.26 15:45:00 - [211] dying by SPVDs back then made me staying in this game, i wanted to do the same minging annoys me, so everybody who asks me to mine is a griefer mkay? ships are expansive, i dont like it, ship producers are griefers mkay? and i dont like paying insane pricers, npc hunters are griefers, mkay? YOU DAMM GRIEFERS! Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.26 15:45:00 - [212] dying by SPVDs back then made me staying in this game, i wanted to do the same minging annoys me, so everybody who asks me to mine is a griefer mkay? ships are expansive, i dont like it, ship producers are griefers mkay? and i dont like paying insane pricers, npc hunters are griefers, mkay? YOU DAMM GRIEFERS! Wanna fly with me?
Clipped Wings	Posted - 2004.08.26 15:49:00 - [213] Originally by: Bhaal I've never done that... I don't smacktalk, or send hatemails... When I'm in-game, I play... But when on the boards, you know how people are out of game? I admire your ability to play a character that is not omniscient, when clearly, you, O.O.G., are. Originally by: Bhaal I'm not saying all pirates are greifers, No, you're just assuming that none of them have a life outside of the game, and that they all are pimply faced basementdwellers. Make up your mind. Originally by: Bhaal but you can't convince me that only a small portion of ppl choosing that play-style are greifers, and the majority are not... That does not fly... You see, that is the beauty of it: 1) You don't want to be convinced, because you apparantly have irrefutable proof. Living in 0.1-0.4 space, you surely got that warning message once about that Concord could not guarantee your safety? If lack of safety is an issue, go back to 0.5 systems. Simple as that, isn't it? You chose to go into unsafe space (I personally don't consider empire of any kind unsafe, but that's a personal matter), then deal with the risks. Stop calling people griefers because they shoot you down in unsafe space. 2) I don't have to convince you. So far, of all the posters, I spot only one agreeing with you, the majority (of both legit and pirate players) are telling you that you are making a fool of yourself, and hurting the corpname of the Merchant Marines. You're already made a fool of yourself, what's next? Your arguments are not founded, your assumptions are incorrect, and your tone is on par with the worst in-game smacktalkers. Anything else you'd wish to add? Seriously...You don't give off the impression that you know what you're talking about. Sorry. -Clipped Wings of LFC "I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man." ~William Hazlitt
Clipped Wings	Posted - 2004.08.26 15:49:00 - [214] Originally by: Bhaal I've never done that... I don't smacktalk, or send hatemails... When I'm in-game, I play... But when on the boards, you know how people are out of game? I admire your ability to play a character that is not omniscient, when clearly, you, O.O.G., are. Originally by: Bhaal I'm not saying all pirates are greifers, No, you're just assuming that none of them have a life outside of the game, and that they all are pimply faced basementdwellers. Make up your mind. Originally by: Bhaal but you can't convince me that only a small portion of ppl choosing that play-style are greifers, and the majority are not... That does not fly... You see, that is the beauty of it: 1) You don't want to be convinced, because you apparantly have irrefutable proof. Living in 0.1-0.4 space, you surely got that warning message once about that Concord could not guarantee your safety? If lack of safety is an issue, go back to 0.5 systems. Simple as that, isn't it? You chose to go into unsafe space (I personally don't consider empire of any kind unsafe, but that's a personal matter), then deal with the risks. Stop calling people griefers because they shoot you down in unsafe space. 2) I don't have to convince you. So far, of all the posters, I spot only one agreeing with you, the majority (of both legit and pirate players) are telling you that you are making a fool of yourself, and hurting the corpname of the Merchant Marines. You're already made a fool of yourself, what's next? Your arguments are not founded, your assumptions are incorrect, and your tone is on par with the worst in-game smacktalkers. Anything else you'd wish to add? Seriously...You don't give off the impression that you know what you're talking about. Sorry. -Clipped Wings of LFC "I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man." ~William Hazlitt
Bhaal	Posted - 2004.08.26 15:51:00 - [215] Quote: The real issue is that some people can't handle being beaten (as they see it) by another human being. If you beat them you must have cheated somehow. If you're trying to insinuate that's my stance, it's false... I have no problem being beaten by other humans in competition, I'm a good sport... I'm not foolish enough to believe that Pirates in this game are good sports... ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Bhaal	Posted - 2004.08.26 15:51:00 - [216] Quote: The real issue is that some people can't handle being beaten (as they see it) by another human being. If you beat them you must have cheated somehow. If you're trying to insinuate that's my stance, it's false... I have no problem being beaten by other humans in competition, I'm a good sport... I'm not foolish enough to believe that Pirates in this game are good sports... ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Bhaal	Posted - 2004.08.26 15:54:00 - [217] Quote: You're already made a fool of yourself, what's next? Your arguments are not founded, your assumptions are incorrect, and your tone is on par with the worst in-game smacktalkers. You certainly have a right to your opinion... Did I upset you or something? Sheesh! ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Bhaal	Posted - 2004.08.26 15:54:00 - [218] Quote: You're already made a fool of yourself, what's next? Your arguments are not founded, your assumptions are incorrect, and your tone is on par with the worst in-game smacktalkers. You certainly have a right to your opinion... Did I upset you or something? Sheesh! ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Attrael	Posted - 2004.08.26 15:58:00 - [219] Originally by: Maud Dib The real issue is that some people can't handle being beaten (as they see it) by another human being. If you beat them you must have cheated somehow. Not really. The issue is being beaten by people who HAVE cheated. People don't mind death by NPCs (most of the time) since NPCs follow a set of rules. Players, on the other hand, have a bad habit of seeking out every possible loophole in the game mechanics they can find to make themselves 'invincible'. I, for one, have no problem getting blasted sky to space dust while mining in 0.0 by a player pirate. I DO have a problem getting blasted by a player pirate in .2 space because they put 200 jet cans at the gate insuring I wouldn't load in time to react. (for example) Sure, not all player pirates try to exploit game mechanics as such, but it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the bunch.
Attrael	Posted - 2004.08.26 15:58:00 - [220] Originally by: Maud Dib The real issue is that some people can't handle being beaten (as they see it) by another human being. If you beat them you must have cheated somehow. Not really. The issue is being beaten by people who HAVE cheated. People don't mind death by NPCs (most of the time) since NPCs follow a set of rules. Players, on the other hand, have a bad habit of seeking out every possible loophole in the game mechanics they can find to make themselves 'invincible'. I, for one, have no problem getting blasted sky to space dust while mining in 0.0 by a player pirate. I DO have a problem getting blasted by a player pirate in .2 space because they put 200 jet cans at the gate insuring I wouldn't load in time to react. (for example) Sure, not all player pirates try to exploit game mechanics as such, but it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the bunch.
Maud Dib	Posted - 2004.08.26 16:07:00 - [221] Oh yeah one more thing. I love how some people love to talk about pirate exploits. Jet can mining is and will always be the most used exploit in the game but rarely do you see threads with people talking about banning miners for greifing. Oh yeah don't forget the mining agent exploit. Or the agent runners Zor exploit. Really the only person I see who wants to totally destroy another groups playing style is the guy calling pirates greifers.
Maud Dib	Posted - 2004.08.26 16:07:00 - [222] Oh yeah one more thing. I love how some people love to talk about pirate exploits. Jet can mining is and will always be the most used exploit in the game but rarely do you see threads with people talking about banning miners for greifing. Oh yeah don't forget the mining agent exploit. Or the agent runners Zor exploit. Really the only person I see who wants to totally destroy another groups playing style is the guy calling pirates greifers.
Crowley	Posted - 2004.08.26 16:08:00 - [223] Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 16:11:02 Originally by: Attrael Originally by: Maud Dib The real issue is that some people can't handle being beaten (as they see it) by another human being. If you beat them you must have cheated somehow. Not really. The issue is being beaten by people who HAVE cheated. People don't mind death by NPCs (most of the time) since NPCs follow a set of rules. Players, on the other hand, have a bad habit of seeking out every possible loophole in the game mechanics they can find to make themselves 'invincible'. I, for one, have no problem getting blasted sky to space dust while mining in 0.0 by a player pirate. I DO have a problem getting blasted by a player pirate in .2 space because they put 200 jet cans at the gate insuring I wouldn't load in time to react. (for example) Sure, not all player pirates try to exploit game mechanics as such, but it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the bunch. ahhh cmon NPC's are the worst cheaters in the game. They can pirate anywhere they want including next to concord in 0.8. They have uber modules, webbed at 25km anyone? and they dont drop em when you shoot em. They Spawn and dont arrive via warp. They seem to have infinate ammo and cap. Just because they always act the same and ppl like repeatition and dont like the unpredictable ppl assume they fight fair?! Grow up. And when in gods name did you last see a 200 jet can lag fest? About 8 months ago? Whats the jet can wait time these days? Edit: Dammit I couldnt let it lie could I
Crowley	Posted - 2004.08.26 16:08:00 - [224] Edited by: Crowley on 26/08/2004 16:11:02 Originally by: Attrael Originally by: Maud Dib The real issue is that some people can't handle being beaten (as they see it) by another human being. If you beat them you must have cheated somehow. Not really. The issue is being beaten by people who HAVE cheated. People don't mind death by NPCs (most of the time) since NPCs follow a set of rules. Players, on the other hand, have a bad habit of seeking out every possible loophole in the game mechanics they can find to make themselves 'invincible'. I, for one, have no problem getting blasted sky to space dust while mining in 0.0 by a player pirate. I DO have a problem getting blasted by a player pirate in .2 space because they put 200 jet cans at the gate insuring I wouldn't load in time to react. (for example) Sure, not all player pirates try to exploit game mechanics as such, but it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the bunch. ahhh cmon NPC's are the worst cheaters in the game. They can pirate anywhere they want including next to concord in 0.8. They have uber modules, webbed at 25km anyone? and they dont drop em when you shoot em. They Spawn and dont arrive via warp. They seem to have infinate ammo and cap. Just because they always act the same and ppl like repeatition and dont like the unpredictable ppl assume they fight fair?! Grow up. And when in gods name did you last see a 200 jet can lag fest? About 8 months ago? Whats the jet can wait time these days? Edit: Dammit I couldnt let it lie could I
Crowley	Posted - 2004.08.26 16:12:00 - [225] Originally by: Maud Dib Oh yeah one more thing. I love how some people love to talk about pirate exploits. Jet can mining is and will always be the most used exploit in the game but rarely do you see threads with people talking about banning miners for greifing. Oh yeah don't forget the mining agent exploit. Or the agent runners Zor exploit. Really the only person I see who wants to totally destroy another groups playing style is the guy calling pirates greifers. Agreed
Crowley	Posted - 2004.08.26 16:12:00 - [226] Originally by: Maud Dib Oh yeah one more thing. I love how some people love to talk about pirate exploits. Jet can mining is and will always be the most used exploit in the game but rarely do you see threads with people talking about banning miners for greifing. Oh yeah don't forget the mining agent exploit. Or the agent runners Zor exploit. Really the only person I see who wants to totally destroy another groups playing style is the guy calling pirates greifers. Agreed
mafish	Posted - 2004.08.26 16:34:00 - [227] Originally by: Bhaal Quote: griefing is a bannable offence yet ppl dont get banned for just being pirates case proved CCP is very light handed when it comes to banning... They prefer to change to code to force you guys to stop greifing, as opposed to banning... I think there is enough history of patches required to take away certain "pirating" tactics to prove my point... Your argument is weak... my argument is not weak at all i pointed out a fact you made something up to try and make your agrument valid nuff said
mafish	Posted - 2004.08.26 16:34:00 - [228] Originally by: Bhaal Quote: griefing is a bannable offence yet ppl dont get banned for just being pirates case proved CCP is very light handed when it comes to banning... They prefer to change to code to force you guys to stop greifing, as opposed to banning... I think there is enough history of patches required to take away certain "pirating" tactics to prove my point... Your argument is weak... my argument is not weak at all i pointed out a fact you made something up to try and make your agrument valid nuff said
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.26 16:48:00 - [229] Wow ! I missed the point where we moved from insulting a large part of the player base with baseless RL comparisons to where we are now talking about all pirates and PK's (hate that term as it does not apply to Eve at all imo) being exploiters... Sorry, this is where I back off. This guy is just plain nuts, no discussion possible. Mods, lock this thread for trolling, it's either the clearest case of that EVER or the most insane person I've met in this game to date. So lock, or ban, or both. Don't bother replying Bhaal. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.26 16:48:00 - [230] Wow ! I missed the point where we moved from insulting a large part of the player base with baseless RL comparisons to where we are now talking about all pirates and PK's (hate that term as it does not apply to Eve at all imo) being exploiters... Sorry, this is where I back off. This guy is just plain nuts, no discussion possible. Mods, lock this thread for trolling, it's either the clearest case of that EVER or the most insane person I've met in this game to date. So lock, or ban, or both. Don't bother replying Bhaal. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2004.08.26 17:03:00 - [231] holy cudsteaks. I go away for several months, and I come back and people are still whining like 5-year olds. Good to see some things never change... .
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2004.08.26 17:03:00 - [232] holy cudsteaks. I go away for several months, and I come back and people are still whining like 5-year olds. Good to see some things never change... .
Thanit	Posted - 2004.08.26 17:09:00 - [233] Bhaal, I understand you formerly used to utilize a character named WhiteDwarf. BNow that would explain alot to me.
Thanit	Posted - 2004.08.26 17:09:00 - [234] Bhaal, I understand you formerly used to utilize a character named WhiteDwarf. BNow that would explain alot to me.
Dezzyb0y	Posted - 2004.08.26 17:18:00 - [235] i cba to read the forum because its obviously been spammed with sh*t from bhaal, now in the words of bhaal "imo" you should stfu cause i dont belive any1 cares about your "opinion" kthnxbye... ----------------------- K4rls 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Republic Fleet Testing Facilities, wrecking for 1395.9 damage
Dezzyb0y	Posted - 2004.08.26 17:18:00 - [236] i cba to read the forum because its obviously been spammed with sh*t from bhaal, now in the words of bhaal "imo" you should stfu cause i dont belive any1 cares about your "opinion" kthnxbye... ----------------------- K4rls 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Republic Fleet Testing Facilities, wrecking for 1395.9 damage
Bhaal	Posted - 2004.08.26 17:19:00 - [237] Quote: Bhaal, I understand you formerly used to utilize a character named WhiteDwarf I cannot tell a lie... 'Tis the truth... However, Bhaal has more foam and bile spewing on his lips than WhiteDwarf ever did concerning these issues... ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Bhaal	Posted - 2004.08.26 17:19:00 - [238] Quote: Bhaal, I understand you formerly used to utilize a character named WhiteDwarf I cannot tell a lie... 'Tis the truth... However, Bhaal has more foam and bile spewing on his lips than WhiteDwarf ever did concerning these issues... ------------------------------------------------ "for piece sakes!"
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.26 17:21:00 - [239] Originally by: Bhaal Quote: Bhaal, I understand you formerly used to utilize a character named WhiteDwarf I cannot tell a lie... 'Tis the truth... However, Bhaal has more foam and bile spewing on his lips than WhiteDwarf ever did concerning these issues... Lol, why didn't you say so right away ? Could have saved me some trouble. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.26 17:21:00 - [240] Originally by: Bhaal Quote: Bhaal, I understand you formerly used to utilize a character named WhiteDwarf I cannot tell a lie... 'Tis the truth... However, Bhaal has more foam and bile spewing on his lips than WhiteDwarf ever did concerning these issues... Lol, why didn't you say so right away ? Could have saved me some trouble. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.

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