So all those so called hardcore players cannot deal with null and low sec and come to high sec to blow up some defenseless noob. Makes since. I mean that is why they come to high sec to gank anyways, because they don't have the balls to do it in low and null sec. What a bunch of whining pansy arse players.

Well, for me personally, it is because I enjoy oppressing the impoverished mining underclass of EVE. Which is intensified when it leads them to rush to the forums to complain about the null sec bourgeoisie.

Well, for me personally, it is because I enjoy oppressing the impoverished mining underclass of EVE. Which is intensified when it leads them to rush to the forums to complain about the null sec bourgeoisie.

GǪexcept that they don't whine all that much, especially compared to those who want to see highsec made safe from various forms of unprovoked and/or non-consensual boat violence.
GǪas was highsec. So why should they go to null or low when highsec is where the fun/juicy targets are?

Why force your play style on others? I do not understand this drive from some players of EVE that think their style of playing the game is the only way. Who cares if some people wish to play in high sec? If you wish to blow **** up, you have null and low sec to do this all you want and the people in high sec really do not give a crap what you do - so why do you care what they do? Did it ever occur to you that some people just do not give a flying **** about your style of game play and just wish to be left alone to play the game the way they want to play it?

Most people that play EVE don't give a flying rats arse about null sec, and low sec. So why should those that choose to play in low and null sec give a flying rats arse about the people in high sec?

Why force your play style on others? I do not understand this drive from some players of EVE that think their style of playing the game is the only way. Who cares if some people wish to play in high sec? If you wish to blow **** up, you have null and low sec to do this all you want and the people in high sec really do not give a crap what you do - so why do you care what they do? Did it ever occur to you that some people just do not give a flying **** about your style of game play and just wish to be left alone to play the game the way they want to play it?

Most people that play EVE don't give a flying rats arse about null sec, and low sec. So why should those that choose to play in low and null sec give a flying rats arse about the people in high sec?

whining

Actually if you play EVE you know that null sec is by far some of the safest and boring places to fly. In fact it is so boring that people like you cannot find stuff to do so you come to high sec because at least in high sec you can find something to blow up that doesn't fight back. You could you know, travel to many places in low sec and find an actual good fight, but that would be to hard for you and you wouldn't want that - no would you.

So all those so called hardcore players cannot deal with null and low sec and come to high sec to blow up some defenseless noob. Makes since. I mean that is why they come to high sec to gank anyways, because they don't have the balls to do it in low and null sec. What a bunch of whining pansy arse players.

The reality is, is that ganking in high-sec is part of the high-sec play style. That is why CCP made Concord less responsive in lower sec high-sec systems, etc. instead of making some type of "instakill" weapon for any and all violations.

you should consider your post a wake-up call to what Eve really is and how CCP intended the game to be.

Working as intended.

Boat is very violent.

I understand the next implementation of Concord, (as of Inferno?), is going to be an instakill weapon rather than a bunch of ships. On the plus side, it may take some time for the Death Ray to reach you.

Eve as envisioned by CCP had 3 distinct sectors high sec, low sec, and null sec.

high sec was the introduction to Eve, a place to learn the basics. Get the feel for combat, earn some isk, and move on to bigger an better adventures. Such as low sec where there was better loot to be found at the cost of higher risk.

For the truly adventurous they could move out to null and experience Eve at it fullest (live build and battle in player created empires) .

Unfortunately CCP erroneously made high sec a bit to comfy for those of us who love their space warm and squishy .
They also neglected null sec to a certain extent and inadvertently created the high sec industrial block that we have now.

So at this point you have 2 major game mechanics created high sec and null sec . they both demand attention and ccp has to focus on both, thus low sec gets ignored and devolves into the anarchy that currently rules it.

So when you see people pushing one to play one style or another its stems from this basic flaw that effects eve.

High sec was never intended to become the center of eve.

The push to get one out of high sec and into null is the very core of eve .

With null and low sec comes the inevitable pvp mechanic , Highsec has become a way for people to avoid this intended aspect of eve (this was unintentional ) it was hoped that players would leave high sec exploit low sec engage in good fights and carry on into null and build their empires pvp'ing all the way .

CCP and the player base underestimated the number of risk adverse players. When they all holed up in high sec it created a dilema for CCP and the players. CCP was left wondering and maintaining what to do with these people, and the player base was left wondering how the hell can i shoot them ?

and this is why you see the angst and the constant pushing to play one or the other . it could be argued( and it is constantly) that high sec is what broke eve .

It is so funny because most of the whining on these boards seem to come from the people in null and low sec that can't stand that fact that their are, "shock", people that don't want to have crap to do with null or low sec space and the BS that takes place their.

Most people that play EVE don't give a flying rats arse about null sec, and low sec.

I mean that is why they come to high sec to gank anyways, because they don't have the balls to do it in low and null sec. What a bunch of whining pansy arse players.

Actually if you play EVE you know that null sec is by far some of the safest and boring places to fly. In fact it is so boring that people like you cannot find stuff to do so you come to high sec because at least in high sec you can find something to blow up that doesn't fight back. You could you know, travel to many places in low sec and find an actual good fight, but that would be to hard for you and you wouldn't want that - no would you.

you should be really ashamed!!!

there is big great alliances in 0.0 and great pvpers i nlow-sec!

you know: some of them are AWFUL and proud of it!

And you don't give a flying rats about them? What will they say in their schools: "no one is scared of me"?

wait wait wait, tell me if I've got this right.

YOu want people to stop pushing their way of playing the game on you. Because, as you say, you don't think other people should leave you alone and stop trying to force you to play different. Which is what they do, they are playing eve the way they want to. They want to be pirates in a space mmo. That's pretty cool if you think about it, they are a bunch of nerds sitting at computers roleplaying that they are pirates. So really when one of them calls you a carebear nerd, just remember you're being insulted by someone who is playing a video game about space ships and taking it seriously.


So take your own advice. Don't force your play-style on other people. If they wan to play in the sandbox by being that bully who knocks down your sand castle yo spent hours doing? guess what, that's eve. It's the only game with a truly real sandbox environment. And that is how they choose to play the game, space pirates. BAsicly they are changing the way eve is played. More and more corps are going to start running hulkageddons. One day getting ganked while mining will be a real possibility.

There isn't 3 separate sandboxes to play in here, it's eve, it's less of a game then a bunch of objects thrown into a world, and then they just sort of let a bunch of go nuts in it. They didn't set up a market with preset prices. players choose the prices on their own.

So what you want is allready whats going on here. Your mining game is not being changed by CCP, it's evoling socaily. Which could only happen in eve. it's Awesome.

wait wait wait, tell me if I've got this right.

YOu want people to stop pushing their way of playing the game on you. Because, as you say, you don't think other people should leave you alone and stop trying to force you to play different. Which is what they do, they are playing eve the way they want to. They want to be pirates in a space mmo. That's pretty cool if you think about it, they are a bunch of nerds sitting at computers roleplaying that they are pirates. So really when one of them calls you a carebear nerd, just remember you're being insulted by someone who is playing a video game about space ships and taking it seriously.


So take your own advice. Don't force your play-style on other people. If they wan to play in the sandbox by being that bully who knocks down your sand castle yo spent hours doing? guess what, that's eve. It's the only game with a truly real sandbox environment. And that is how they choose to play the game, space pirates. BAsicly they are changing the way eve is played. More and more corps are going to start running hulkageddons. One day getting ganked while mining will be a real possibility.

There isn't 3 separate sandboxes to play in here, it's eve, it's less of a game then a bunch of objects thrown into a world, and then they just sort of let a bunch of go nuts in it. They didn't set up a market with preset prices. players choose the prices on their own.

So what you want is allready whats going on here. Your mining game is not being changed by CCP, it's evoling socaily. Which could only happen in eve. it's Awesome.

Why force your play style on others?

Because I can.

Why play EVE otherwise?

Malcanis you of all people are no pirate...you're as pathetic as the others. If you were as badarse as you think you are you'd be tearing up the kill boards and raking in the loots. :)

Malcanis you of all people are no pirate...you're as pathetic as the others. If you were as badarse as you think you are you'd be tearing up the kill boards and raking in the loots. :)

Why force your play style on others? I do not understand this drive from some players of EVE that think their style of playing the game is the only way. Who cares if some people wish to play in high sec? If you wish to blow **** up, you have null and low sec to do this all you want and the people in high sec really do not give a crap what you do - so why do you care what they do? Did it ever occur to you that some people just do not give a flying **** about your style of game play and just wish to be left alone to play the game the way they want to play it?

Most people that play EVE don't give a flying rats arse about null sec, and low sec. So why should those that choose to play in low and null sec give a flying rats arse about the people in high sec?

he supports the vision and the essence of the game. Even if he doesn't play every role you can play in eve, he loves that he plays a game that allows for so many professions and play styles to exist. Go play a one player game. Or a game like guild wars 2. It's great I swear, awesome PvP, great PvE area, fun boss battles, real , whatever I don't need to advertise it, my point is guildwars 2 is not a sandbox, but it's also a good game, so if you don't like playing eve online, don't play it. There are other good MMOs!

I disagree. I think the people that wanted null sec got it and when they got it they discovered it was boring as **** and or they had to kowtow down to some ******* of a corp leader and be at the persons beck and call all the time and that created a lot of angst. Face it...null and low sec are broke because the players broke it. To many arseholes play in null and low sec and because they can't get their rocks off in null and low sec any longer, they decide to move back into high sec to just be the griefers they are and have always been.