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SMT008
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.04 17:55:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Hisec people, on the other hand, rarely think of 0.0.
That's not because they don't give a ****. That's because they either fear it or don't know anything about it.
Ignorance.
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Cristian Zabala
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2012.05.04 17:59:00 -
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mad cus bad. |
Bane Necran
457
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Posted - 2012.05.04 18:01:00 -
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SMT008 wrote:That's because they either fear it or don't know anything about it.
Many hisec people actually dream of moving there someday. They just never get the chance, or the thousands of members it takes to claim one system. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
terrly bronks
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.04 18:04:00 -
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sorry that guys is a joke with words lol
why bounty on miners
why not bounty on mission runners???
why not bounty on battle ships
why not bounty on frigs
burn jita was great but why not a month long burn Jita
you see where this is going....????
why are miners soloed out each year and yet others are left alone empire has a lot more than just miners you know
anyhow ganking in hi-sec is a joke and I just don't see the fun in blowing up a ship that can't shoot back...... ok drones but still they to weak to do any real damage fast
oh and all five of my miners are tanked all the time have not lost one yet me 20 gankers 0 |
bliz80
East India Ore Trade Apocalypse Now.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.04 18:13:00 -
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space is dangerous, end of story. If you cant deal with that then you're in the wrong space. |
Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2012.05.04 18:17:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Saia Tae Arragosa wrote: Why can't high sec be as awesome as low and null sec? It can be rewarding in a different way. There are many ways to reward players for their efforts.
Why not indeed?
This is a good start and CCP should really take note. I applaud you Malcanis - well done.
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Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
140
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Posted - 2012.05.04 18:50:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Malcanis wrote:Saia Tae Arragosa wrote: Why can't high sec be as awesome as low and null sec? It can be rewarding in a different way. There are many ways to reward players for their efforts.
Why not indeed? This is a good start and CCP should really take note. I applaud you Malcanis - well done.
Wow, Malcanis really gets it. Highsec isn't just the starter zone for newbies anymore, its performing many more useful functions. For anyone who read the manifesto, I'm in the "casual" and "independent" brackets.
Currently there's three particularly atttractive bits of what Malcanis calls "high risk, high reward" gameplay accessible from highsec. -popping into a highsec wormhole to tackle some C1 or C2 sleeper sites. Sadly now that I've "outgrown" battlecruisers in favour of battleships and strat cruisers, and started using +4 implants regularly, the risk/reward ratio doesn't really work out anymore. Also the randomness of trying to find a wormhole that leads into a C1/C2 site that isn't also occupied can be frustrating. -doing the lowsec endpoint of highsec escalations. The good odds of getting shiny deadspace loot are enough to get me into a cheap cruiser or BC and go for them. And due to lowsec mechanics I'm not too concerned about implant losses. Sadly these escalations are even rarer than the wormholes. -the compulsory lowsec part of the Caldari epic arc. Again, the nice reward at the end and the fact that they could be done in a cheap ship made me just go and do it. If I couple do similar level 4s in those kinds of ships, I'd totally give them a go. Sadly, there's a 3 month time limit on the arcs.
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Meat Explosion
Waffles and Sin
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Posted - 2012.05.04 19:01:00 -
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Because this annoying thread exists, I shall kill a miner in OP's honor. YOU SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!!!!! |
Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.04 19:19:00 -
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Meat Explosion wrote:Because this annoying thread exists, I shall kill a miner in OP's honor. YOU SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!!!!!
I shall make a toast in your honor brave soul. |
Xolve
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
990
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Posted - 2012.05.04 19:23:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:It is so funny because most of the whining on these boards seem to come from the people in null and low sec that can't stand that fact that their are, "shock", people that don't want to have crap to do with null or low sec space and the BS that takes place their.
Please learn the difference between There, Their, and They're.
Thanks. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
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Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.04 19:53:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:It is so funny because most of the whining on these boards seem to come from the people in null and low sec that can't stand that fact that their are, "shock", people that don't want to have crap to do with null or low sec space and the BS that takes place their. Please learn the difference between There, Their, and They're. Thanks.
OMG it is(sorry - was) like 2 am when I posted that...don't be so anal. |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2012.05.04 19:54:00 -
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Why do you want to force your playstyle on us? |
MotherMoon
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.04 19:54:00 -
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SMT008 wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Hisec people, on the other hand, rarely think of 0.0.
That's not because they don't give a ****. That's because they either fear it or don't know anything about it. Ignorance.
so wouldn't it be awesome if FW was a safe way to learn 0.0 warfare in a safe setting that gives you bonuses and NPC run events. I know it's not as sandbox open as real 0.0, but I think a lot of people that got in FW back when it came out, they didn't go back to highsec, they left for real alliances and 0.0 warfare. I think FW alone got at least 8000 new players into 0.0 for what it's wroth. |
Alotta Cleavage
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.04 20:08:00 -
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Nerds bullied IRL can now be the bullies. |
Wu Jiaqiu
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2012.05.04 20:27:00 -
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What if my playstyle is killing people who don't want to PvP? |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
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Posted - 2012.05.04 20:31:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Why force your play style on others? I do not understand this drive from some players of EVE that think their style of playing the game is the only way. Who cares if some people wish to play in high sec? If you wish to blow **** up, you have null and low sec to do this all you want and the people in high sec really do not give a crap what you do - so why do you care what they do? Did it ever occur to you that some people just do not give a flying **** about your style of game play and just wish to be left alone to play the game the way they want to play it?
Most people that play EVE don't give a flying rats arse about null sec, and low sec. So why should those that choose to play in low and null sec give a flying rats arse about the people in high sec?
Hate to say it, but it sounds like you want to force people to play EVE with your playing style.... Which makes you just as bad as the people your flaming....
And I wonder how many people have put out locators on you by now.... Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |
MotherMoon
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
612
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Posted - 2012.05.04 20:39:00 -
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Alotta Cleavage wrote:Nerds bullied IRL can now be the bullies.
Right, which lets people like me be in anti-pirate corps. We fight pirates. You can't kill just one part of eve without effecting lots of other peoples way they choose to play eve as well. |
Jonah Gravenstein
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Posted - 2012.05.04 21:00:00 -
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Why force your play style on others?
Because the game allows it, without the differing playstyles and aims of players in null, low and highsec Eve would become a giant snoozefest, PvP players inflicting death and destruction on PvE players & PvE players inflicting economic "warfare" on everybody else are what makes Eve the fantastic game that it is.
As a self confessed highsec carebear I appreciate the risks that come from PvP players, they are the spice of life, without them carebearing would be an endless boring grind, as it is you take a risk (albeit fairly minimal most of the time)every time you undock, whether it be by war decs or some nutter in a suicide alpha boat that just fancies making you explode and capturing any subsequent chat logs for lols, but without this I wouldn't play, it'd be boring. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp
260
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Posted - 2012.05.04 21:10:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Why force your play style on others? I do not understand this drive from some players of EVE that think their style of playing the game is the only way. Who cares if some people wish to play in high sec? If you wish to blow **** up, you have null and low sec to do this all you want and the people in high sec really do not give a crap what you do - so why do you care what they do? Did it ever occur to you that some people just do not give a flying **** about your style of game play and just wish to be left alone to play the game the way they want to play it?
Most people that play EVE don't give a flying rats arse about null sec, and low sec. So why should those that choose to play in low and null sec give a flying rats arse about the people in high sec?
1. I do not know why you care-bears keep stating that "most people that play EVE don't give a flying rats arse about null sec, and low sec." I am assuming it is because the average population density shows 70% of the character distribution in high sec and you are making the leap to thinking that means that all of those players are care-bears. The vast majority of them are null/low secers alts or industrialist characters who are very much involved in what goes on there. Unfortunately, CCP has provided an area of the game where production and isk making actives can be carried out with no risk, so that is where people go to do those things.
2. If you are allowed to grind isk risk free in high sec, that means that all of us who actually play the game have to put more time into grinding isk as well to afford inflated prices. I choose to take a preventative stance on the matter instead.
TL:DR Quit forcing me to play your game by grind isk faucets and causing inflation. |
Sid Hudgens
59
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Posted - 2012.05.05 00:49:00 -
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If anything, we should have more options to force our play-style on others. Or, rather, there should be parity in forcing playstyle on others.
See this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=103333 "....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
This post has been brought to you by an NPC corp alt. |
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Son IamaDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.05 00:52:00 -
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Why not for your playstyle on others. It's a sandbox after all. Sandboxs needs to have someone building their lovely sandcastles up and when all is well, it needs someone to come along to kick it down. |
Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
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Posted - 2012.05.05 01:25:00 -
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+1 For OP, actualy 90% topic looks like (we living in 0.0 space) and you are empie scum etc) join us dont be stupid we tell you how to play we know what is good for you and you are 100% wrong, join us and start train awesome dreadnoughts! because they so cool ;) while some people love alarm cloks, CTA, blobs, roams, pos bashing and kb stats farming, other hate this part.
People should try pvp in large or small scale but dont force them to play like you want. |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
531
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:45:00 -
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Cloned S0ul wrote:+1 For OP, actualy 90% topic looks like (we living in 0.0 space) and you are empie scum etc) join us dont be stupid we tell you how to play we know what is good for you and you are 100% wrong, join us and start train awesome dreadnoughts! because they so cool ;) while some people love alarm cloks, CTA, blobs, roams, pos bashing and kb stats farming, other hate this part.
People should try pvp in large or small scale but dont force them to play like you want. What does this mean? Even if I suicide you, you haven't been forced into anything. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:50:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Cloned S0ul wrote:+1 For OP, actualy 90% topic looks like (we living in 0.0 space) and you are empie scum etc) join us dont be stupid we tell you how to play we know what is good for you and you are 100% wrong, join us and start train awesome dreadnoughts! because they so cool ;) while some people love alarm cloks, CTA, blobs, roams, pos bashing and kb stats farming, other hate this part.
People should try pvp in large or small scale but dont force them to play like you want. What does this mean? Even if I suicide you, you haven't been forced into anything.
She's rather been forced out of something.
Heh. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
531
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:54:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Cloned S0ul wrote:+1 For OP, actualy 90% topic looks like (we living in 0.0 space) and you are empie scum etc) join us dont be stupid we tell you how to play we know what is good for you and you are 100% wrong, join us and start train awesome dreadnoughts! because they so cool ;) while some people love alarm cloks, CTA, blobs, roams, pos bashing and kb stats farming, other hate this part.
People should try pvp in large or small scale but dont force them to play like you want. What does this mean? Even if I suicide you, you haven't been forced into anything. She's rather been forced out of something. Heh. On a fleet op right now.
Nearly spit coke on the monitor.
How inconvenient would that have been?!?
+1! He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
ohno riceagain
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.05.05 03:11:00 -
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I'm mad bro, I'm mad that you cant see the errors of your lawless ways
I like hi sec
I dont like low sec/null sec
I mine, and I mission run in safeness
Me has fat wallet
You don't like way we do this, then you leave low sec and come hi sec and play safeness too (long time).
We welcome all of our low sec brethern that hate their souless lives that serve no purpose in low sec other than too assuage CCP tools to make roids better in low sec.
james 315? another tool of the CCP machine to convince you that low sec is the place to be.
really? look at the numbers. if 70% of the player base is in hi sec, why the baseless attempt by CCP to move peeps to low sec?
If that's where the fun and profits were, don't you think we would already be there?
Us hi seccers are nerds and tools yes, but we ARE EVE.
Low sec is the flushed garbage that cant socialize with the rest of the universe
You have been cast out to the depths of space to flail away at each other in a useless attempt to redeem yourselves.
Come back to the light, mine with us, manufacture with us, get passive income with us and have CCP GOONwave give you glorious attention.
Its evident that we ARE EVE in that CCP pays so much attention to us.
Mom never loved me like this....
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Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
167
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Posted - 2012.05.05 05:45:00 -
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Most Null Bear smack talk is compensating. They need to justify all the time they sunk building a Dot map on a web site. Considering we really don't give twoshits and never go there, they need to come out to us to strut their napkin filled trainer bra's.
I've spent time in all 'Sec' levels of EVE and the only difference is in the bills. .aka how much time you are forced to PvE to keep it going. |
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 05:50:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:You fly in low and null sec that is the risk you as the player wished to make- you chose to do it, nobody twisted your arm. So stop trying to twist others arms because you chose a different play style.
The fun of the game is to twist other people's arms. It is to create and build power, and then use it to destroy others. The fact that effort and ability are rewarded while stagnation is punished is what is appealing about the game.
It is also hypocritical of you to tell others not to force their playstyle on people while you are telling them their playstyle of exploding people in highsec is not valid. I agree no one should force their playstyle. They are doing their thing, do not complain if it happens to interact with yours. Ferox #1 |
RAP ACTION HERO
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.05.05 06:11:00 -
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ohno riceagain wrote:I'm mad bro, I'm mad that you cant see the errors of your lawless ways
I like hi sec
I dont like low sec/null sec
I mine, and I mission run in safeness
Me has fat wallet
You don't like way we do this, then you leave low sec and come hi sec and play safeness too (long time).
We welcome all of our low sec brethern that hate their souless lives that serve no purpose in low sec other than too assuage CCP tools to make roids better in low sec.
james 315? another tool of the CCP machine to convince you that low sec is the place to be.
really? look at the numbers. if 70% of the player base is in hi sec, why the baseless attempt by CCP to move peeps to low sec?
If that's where the fun and profits were, don't you think we would already be there?
Us hi seccers are nerds and tools yes, but we ARE EVE.
Low sec is the flushed garbage that cant socialize with the rest of the universe
You have been cast out to the depths of space to flail away at each other in a useless attempt to redeem yourselves.
Come back to the light, mine with us, manufacture with us, get passive income with us and have CCP GOONwave give you glorious attention.
Its evident that we ARE EVE in that CCP pays so much attention to us.
Mom never loved me like this....
heh you thought your post was so good you had to make a locked thread about it? idiot |
Freggan
Nexus Ore Technologies and Excavations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2012.05.05 08:01:00 -
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The OP only went half way to being right, who gives a @#$% about your style of play but you have to understand, many styles and many interests reside in the same place and they even overlap!!!! Its perfectly natural.....just like its natural to wish there was a button in eve that deletes the wining pvpers who come at a mining ship guns a blazing....curses the mining ship for being week and how they must be cowardly because they were just snuck up on and more than likely after alot of study by the pvpers to make sure no friends/corp mates are in local.... get my picture? If anyone wanted to pvp its only natural, just why are there so many that seem like they would be using cubes of painted wood to build little towers if they were not playing eve?
P.s. I have been destroyed in null sec by a group of players when i went scanning their territories, i even left their territories with more ships than I went in with :P. Was so very exciting. Especially the part where they said "good fight" in local. |
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