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Jer Bu	Posted - 2009.04.14 19:36:00 - [1] What are some of the things you've learned along the way in Eve that had you known sooner would have helped you a lot?
Jer Bu	Posted - 2009.04.14 19:39:00 - [2] Here are some of mine: 1. Don't spend two weeks doing level 1 missions to get your standing up, just train connections to level 2/3 and a whole new world of agents will open up to you. 2. Save that loot you are gathering and take it to a market hub or a mission hub (some place with 300+ people in local. Your items will sell for fairer values and you will tend to make a lot more isk. 3. Always salvage. But do it with a salvage ship, don't waste your time trying to salvage with your mission ship.
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.14 19:41:00 - [3] Market. I simply didn't take the time to understand it, and when it finally hit me on how it works, I'd realized that I'd been selling my wares for years at lower rates than what I could have gotten, if I'd only don't a little research and sold at hubs. Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------\|\|\|-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
Onus Mian Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.04.14 20:22:00 - [4] 1) Finding out that you could increase the resistances on your ship after struggling with missions for a while. No doubt the only reason I survived those missions was because I had been flying a ships with a resistance bonus. 2) Salvaging 3) Learning skills 4) Not choosing Minmatar ---- Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? - Douglas Adams
mr passie Minmatar Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.14 20:26:00 - [5] exotic dancers once I found out they were only part of an imaginary spaceship game I sold all of them, didn't even make me rich like a rl pimp PJI is recruiting! visit ingame channel "purgatorium" for details
Ghengis Tia	Posted - 2009.04.14 20:39:00 - [6] Salvaging. I must have left many hundreds of wrecks ratting around as a newb. I've now got 700m+ in salvage and make all my own rigs.
Kuar Z'thain Fraser's Finest	Posted - 2009.04.14 20:41:00 - [7] You can make more Isk per hour while docked in Jita 4-4, than in any 0.0 belt or level 4 mission.
Malasen Takhos Gallente The Wyld Hunt Saints Amongst Sinners	Posted - 2009.04.14 20:53:00 - [8] That Gallente armour tank and do not use missiles
Cat o'Ninetails Rancer Defence League	Posted - 2009.04.14 20:54:00 - [9] dont go to rancer visit my blog for my adventures
Faife Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.04.14 20:55:00 - [10] there's an 'i' in rapier. --

Milla Jovo	Posted - 2009.04.14 20:59:00 - [11] T2 BPO's,,, Not being sold on the market like T1 bpo's ,,, Even though they are listed...
Sun Clausewitz	Posted - 2009.04.14 21:02:00 - [12] That there are a ton of morons who believe in the 'if I mine it, it is free' philosophy.
Lone Gunman Forhotea Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.14 21:08:00 - [13] 1. Don't train Missiles. (Nerfed) 2. Don't train Caldari (Nerfed) 3. Don't create Civire Character when most of the skill require memory and Intelligence 4. Don't spend all that time doing research missions for the Tech II lottery. (4 accounts 100k points each no T2 BPO offers, should have joined BOB) 5. Don't spend every last ISK for that Unlimited run Scorpion BPC. 6. Don't use above now 200 unit limited run BPC to convert to 10 run Widow BPC. (Got a 10 run Widow BPC but ship is worthless) 7. Don't even bother filing a loss petition or any petition for that matter. (Never a positive resolution just get laughed at) 8. Don't do faction missions for 5 years, Rapid Assembly only. (No jump clones). I could go on and on
Sidrat Flush Caldari Life is Experience	Posted - 2009.04.14 21:21:00 - [14] Realising how the market works and that people are more likely to immediately sell items than put up their few units for their own price. 0.0 alliances are only as bad as their whiniest and loudest member. Most Ceo's are to busy to undock because they're doing other stuff that requires real life skills, not something you can train on the market to do. I've also learnt that if you want/need something done give it to a busy person, not someone who replies "I'm not doing anything at the moment", because as soon as you suggest something for them, they'll turn around and do something totally different which wasn't important 30 seconds ago but right now is vital and immediate. Never announce that you're training to fly the flavour of the month fit but it will take 60+ days for you to train. -------------------------- Life is about memories the more the better. EXP-L Refining Calculator
Sydian Rie Minmatar Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo	Posted - 2009.04.14 21:24:00 - [15] Don't close tutorial if you are a new player. I spent 2 weeks without training skills before learning of them.
Killiashandra Ree	Posted - 2009.04.14 21:34:00 - [16] Edited by: Killiashandra Ree on 14/04/2009 21:34:42 If your hauler can carry over 3000M3 put Giant secure containers in it, each one will expand your cargo by 900M3. Frigates, shuttles and pods are almost impossible to catch (and subsequently kill)outside of 0.0. Never accept free-form contracts. Never trust anyone in EvE. Never use the immediate sale button on the sell items window.
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2009.04.14 21:40:00 - [17] Edited by: Haradgrim on 14/04/2009 21:46:32 1) Implants are a great investment if you don't go to 0.0, get +5s on your empire alt asap!!!!! 2) Datacores (even at presently depressed prices) are free money..... skill all characters for them as soon as possible.... 3) Unless you are a solo player, the type of corp you are in will pretty much determine your play style...... make sure you join a corp that wants to do the same thing you do or you will just get bored and quit..... 4) If you can't figure out whether or not its a scam.... it is 5) Never trust a member of Goonswarm..... there's a chance they might be telling the truth / not manipulating you..... but likely not 6) Always train skills in the order in which they give you the greatest competitive advantage.... if two new skills are required for a mining ship but one of them boosts the amount the current ship you are in mines per cycle and the other one has no effect accept on the ship you want to eventually fly, train the one that gives you the immediate benefit first. This might seem obvious but it's not always so cut and dry (i.e. do you train drone interfacing 5 or gallente BS 5 first?) -- Originally by: CCP Oveur Just donæt forget the reach-around.
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance	Posted - 2009.04.14 21:42:00 - [18] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails dont go to rancer Cat gave good advice.
Jun'tarious	Posted - 2009.04.14 21:48:00 - [19] hmm... keep it coming. i'm new to the game and would like to know all the silly things i'm doing wrong!
Sidrat Flush Caldari Life is Experience	Posted - 2009.04.14 21:57:00 - [20] I've learnt to ask questions and talk to people where ever I meet them. Mining in the same belt - convo. Got shot down passing through low sec - convo (be nice, it's just a game) see a forum ***** in local - convo. Make contacts EVERYWHERE. Finally never assume a two day character belongs to a brand new player. The game could be called Alts-Online. -------------------------- Life is about memories the more the better. EXP-L Refining Calculator

N'tek alar	Posted - 2009.04.14 22:00:00 - [21] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails dont go to rancer You've learned not to go to rancer? Cool, Now the poor pirates you've been harrassing in there can finally go back to their usual business!
Louis deGuerre Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia	Posted - 2009.04.14 22:00:00 - [22] Don't take a lowsec shortcut with your first hard earned Cruiser (1 month) OMG THERE ARE DRONE COMMAND SHORTCUTS AAAAARRRRGHGGHHH (3 months!!!) I dare you to Fight My Brute !
Milla Jovo	Posted - 2009.04.14 22:04:00 - [23] Originally by: Louis deGuerre OMG THERE ARE DRONE COMMAND SHORTCUTS AAAAARRRRGHGGHHH (3 months!!!) Since when?
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.04.14 22:35:00 - [24] Originally by: Sydian Rie Don't close tutorial if you are a new player. I spent 2 weeks without training skills before learning of them. hehe i did that one
Quantar Raalsken Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.14 22:42:00 - [25] Originally by: Milla Jovo Originally by: Louis deGuerre OMG THERE ARE DRONE COMMAND SHORTCUTS AAAAARRRRGHGGHHH (3 months!!!) Since when? TIP: i use: Alt E - engage Alt R - return Alt O - return and orbit ======= Homeworld Hamachi Network
Mahke Aeon Of Strife Skunk-Works	Posted - 2009.04.14 23:41:00 - [26] 1) Despite lowsec being totally safe in a frigate or nano'd cruiser, if you bring expensively implanted clones to a largish fight you will lag up and next see your screen working in a station. 2) Don't try moving to 0.0 unless going with a corp with half-decent logistics 3) Don't train caldari. They on the whole are not great at pvp and are really hard to train out of if you decide you like something else better.
Lochmar Fiendhiem Caldari International Multi-Player Consortium	Posted - 2009.04.15 00:45:00 - [27] The Vagina Monologues is not a ** or burlesque show. Originally by:** Halkin bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
Amitious Turkey Gallente Ammo Tech Inc	Posted - 2009.04.15 00:48:00 - [28] That 0.0 is not empty wildlands any more :( Wormholes ftw. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) The writer of the article did not quote himself- Cortes
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.15 00:55:00 - [29] Edited by: Banana Torres on 15/04/2009 00:55:10 Most players are actually pretty useless.
brutoid Caldari	Posted - 2009.04.15 00:58:00 - [30] WTS: 1 ticket for The Vagina Monologues

Hawkyy Caldari Hub2	Posted - 2009.04.15 01:33:00 - [31] Edited by: Hawkyy on 15/04/2009 01:33:58 Traveling 20 jumps to a mate, didn't know the default was set to quickest and go through low sec, causing me to tab out with autopilot on, only to tab back in and find ive been podded and lost my Hawk i just bought for 20mill that took me ages to save for. So yeah: Don't tab out while traveling through low sec.
Agent Known Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.04.15 03:09:00 - [32] Never sit in high-sec and expect a "fair" fight when doing the can-flipping trick; the other person can and will bring out something bigger to kill you with. Never mission in low-sec. Keep your clone up to date. Assume that everyone who approaches you in low/null-sec (and isn't blue/corpmate) is about to kill you. If someone else enters your wormhole, assume that they will try to kill you. (lost a Drake that way). Keep your clone up to date. Never accidentally fit an AOE (area-of-effect) weapon to attack a WT on a station. Learn the instawarp: spam warp-to when you're in deep structure. Oh, and: keep your clone up to date. Obviously what I say isn't always what my alliance thinks. I hate to break it to you, but this is in fact my signature. Proud ally of CVA
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2009.04.15 03:27:00 - [33] 1 Get a secure, reliable, and repeatable source of income in game before you try PVP. PVPing on a shoestring budget is hard. PVPing when you have the isk is fun. 2 Every ship/system/race will eventually get nerfed. Plan ahead. 3 READ THE PATCH NOTES.. You'd be surpised what won't suprise you on patch day if you do. 4 This game is boreing without friends. Make some. Find some. Buy some. But get some some how.
AkRoYeR Amarr	Posted - 2009.04.15 05:10:00 - [34] 1) Have at least 2 accounts and run them at the same time. 2) Going to low-sec and constantly doing large fleet ops gets really boring because you only see little blue and red dots because your zoomed out. 3) 1 quality post on the general board for every 999 completely useless posts.
Taradis Amarr The Imperial Furies	Posted - 2009.04.15 05:23:00 - [35] Don't fall asleep while mining DO not warp to 0 on gate that has a bubble anchored behind the gate almost lost my pilgrim that way thank the devs for cloaking Never auto pilot while you r war dec'd Do not take pot shots at pods while drunk and then accidently pop one woops
Dark Soldat Caldari	Posted - 2009.04.15 06:02:00 - [36] Dont play this terrible terrible game
nails Caldari Ota Corps	Posted - 2009.04.15 06:06:00 - [37] -Don't let CCP take away your 10.0 security status after the first major EVE update post launch. -Buy and stockpile more Gisti stuff before 0.0 complex are nerfed. -Unanchor and store your POS before it runs out of fuel, and someone else cleans up your mess for you. -Don't go AFK for 20 mins in your 6billion isk faction battleship while missioning, even if just one ghetto mission turret is shooting you for almost no damage. -Don't trick yourself, into believing that you can commit to other people's dreams and have constant time in your life to commit to doing the really cool things in eve when you totaly don't. -Don't waste all of your isk trying to be Entity, you suck at life and can never be him. -Don't jump your dread out of high sec before high sec building ability is removed. shakes fist at Chribba -Don't leave tons of battleships in capturable player stations. -------------- http://nails.otaku.jp/ota-corps/
Zex Maxwell Caldari	Posted - 2009.04.15 06:11:00 - [38] I don't remember any off hand, but I can tell you what the new players will say: NP: I should have trained my learning skills before I hit 1.6M. ---
Jer Bu	Posted - 2009.04.15 17:34:00 - [39] The best Tech 1 mods are often as good as their tech 2 counterpart. The exceptions are tech 2 modules that get bonuses for advanced training skills (Heavy missiles for example)
Sonya DosPasos	Posted - 2009.04.15 17:49:00 - [40] Learn your damage types and your range, both offense and defense Anything you need is sold either on the market or via contracts. If using contracts, make sure the one you accept looks like a dozen others (but maybe for a slight price differential). Nothing shouted in local or structured in an odd way in contracts is worth paying attention to. Do not, under any circumstances, start a corp with a couple buddies and expect to grow.

Chraiz	Posted - 2009.04.15 18:00:00 - [41] - If you're planning on "checking out" low sec for the first time take a cheap ship. - Learning skills are a great investment. I know it's been said but it cannot be enough. - You can target multiple ships and fire at them all with different turrets. Seriously I was trying to take on small swarms of NPCs and only shooting one with all my guns then moving onto the next before I realised this. Sure they went down quick but I was having to wait for a target lock on each target after the first and when you have a basic ship with not great tanking abilities 3-4 NPCs can take you down pretty fast. - Train skills so you can lock a good amount of targets at one time. This applies to mining in particular so you can keep rats at bay and continue mining at the same time without sacrificing extra high slots for more firepower. - Drones. Learn to love them.
Vincent Gaines Dirt Nap Squad	Posted - 2009.04.15 19:45:00 - [42] Edited by: Vincent Gaines on 15/04/2009 19:45:36 double check your cargo hold and make sure your cargo is there before embarking on that 25 jump trip.
Jer Bu	Posted - 2009.04.16 03:58:00 - [43] LOL I will add also, make sure you have emptied your salvager's cargo hold before going on the next missions salvage job
CrestoftheStars Caldari Eternum Pariah	Posted - 2009.04.16 04:22:00 - [44] Edited by: CrestoftheStars on 16/04/2009 04:23:39 the importence of advance learning lvl 5 :/ and the remap attribute system :P (should properly have read more into it before using it ) edit: most of all the repeatable nerfs too missiles.. properly wouldn't have maxed out missiles and exspecially torps and wouldn't have crosstrained if i had known that from the start. ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded
Gefex Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.16 07:32:00 - [45] May sound stupid to most, but ctrl+clicking on things in the overview or in space locks them. I was playing a month before someone told me that ;) I imagine the new player experience is a little more detailed nowadays tho.
Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2009.04.16 07:37:00 - [46] Originally by: Kuar Z'thain You can make more Isk per hour while docked in Jita 4-4, than in any 0.0 belt or level 4 mission. Yup, buy my stuffs. Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
Joe Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.	Posted - 2009.04.16 08:37:00 - [47] Don't chase the FLOTM, or you'll just end up whining when the nurf hits. Recruiting Amarr PVE Enthusiasts
Shade Millith International House of PWNCakes Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.04.16 08:50:00 - [48] - How to properly fit, fly and bait paper thin nanoHAC's in a HAMDrake before the nano nerf --------------------------------------------
Mobil Goding	Posted - 2009.04.16 09:11:00 - [49] 1) Should not have trained Caldari. 2) Spreading my skills out all over the place instead of finding a goal and aiming for it. 3) Never took the time to learn trading stuff. So many hours spent just training because I didnt have time to focus on a mission that I could have spent on a trading run. 4) Not training towards Capital ships.. "They will only be for a select few anyhow". Right. 5) Spending my first two years in High Sec being a silly mission runner
SaiSai Mei EveXplorer Development Team	Posted - 2009.04.16 10:08:00 - [50] - Don't try to create a Noob corporation... - Directly go to PVP the first week in cheap ships instead of waiting to have ISK to do PVP -- EveXplorer - Explore the Eve universe from your desktop.

Leana Darkrider Creatio -ex- nihilo	Posted - 2009.04.16 10:22:00 - [51] That you can hold Ctrl when clicking a target in your overview and it's getting locked. That your clone must be up to date. That concord isn't there to protect you, but to punish the naughty ones.
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente State Protectorate	Posted - 2009.04.16 11:05:00 - [52] Don't have 3 perception on your main for over 5 years. ---
Major Templar Caldari Knights Templar Defender's	Posted - 2009.04.16 11:24:00 - [53] 1. Don't go Caldari. 2. Don't train Missiles. 3. Don't train for a Falcon. 4. Don't think just because I'm a small ship in a fleet that I won't be primaried. 5. Corp members just might be a spy and betray you. 6. Just because you have a warp stab doesn't mean you can't be stopped. 7. Don't take a PVE tank into PvP. Oh, the days I was a noob. Lol. Now I have no excuse for making stupid mistakes, now they are just dumb moves. Major Templar Knights Templar Defender's [-KTD-] Director, POS Manager, Personnel Manager
Babel Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2009.04.16 11:41:00 - [54] Edited by: Babel on 16/04/2009 11:42:56 Edited by: Babel on 16/04/2009 11:41:27 1. That low-sec/null-sec is not as dangerous [if you have half a brain] as majority of hi-sec players tell you it is. Notwithstanding hub-alts of 0.0 mains who like to brag in local. Took me a year [!] to realise I was listening to ignorant rabbits .... 2. That being -5.00 or lower from a Empire faction does not mean that A. hi-sec gates to hostile hisec are locked or B. you insta-explode entering that space. 3. That lots of people give advice in Eve on stuff they really just have no experience of at all and just let legends continue .... mainly to justify their own behaviour [see 1. and 2.] :) 4. That the only foolproof way of finding out how something really works [or not] is to do it yourself [see 3.] 5. That you can link Regions, Constellations and Systems into chat windows by dragging from the title at the top of each F11 mapbrowser box - Total Win ! . "Out of the good of evil born, Came Uriel's voice of cherub scorn"
cyclop07 Gallente Knights of the Old Empire AAA Citizens	Posted - 2009.04.16 12:20:00 - [55] Originally by: Quantar Raalsken Originally by: Milla Jovo Originally by: Louis deGuerre OMG THERE ARE DRONE COMMAND SHORTCUTS AAAAARRRRGHGGHHH (3 months!!!) Since when? TIP: i use: Alt E - engage Alt R - return Alt O - return and orbit omg omg, and you tell me this after 4 years of playing eve
Siri Blue Gallente Arachnea Phoenix Battalion Hoodlums Associates	Posted - 2009.04.16 12:29:00 - [56] ....that it is futile to specialise in anything that might be fun or really profitable in Eve...cause as soon as you are skilled for it and learned the tricks....CCP will nerf it ...that CCP's scamming approval policy destroys nearly all proper social interaction within the game - everyone expects you to be a scammer as well... ...That giving away prizes is so damn hard (look up the linky below) People for Stuff Raffle - No ISK needed
Dizzy22	Posted - 2009.04.16 12:48:00 - [57] If your a brande new toon and you got that skill bonus then train 1.6 mills worth of learning points, get good implants early on too, always sit through the tuturial dont spend weeks doing level one missions just train connections asap (after learning skills) and take the time and effort to try all aspects of the game before you decide what to do
Kasak Black The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.04.16 12:52:00 - [58] Don't seek revenge on a player who has wronged you. It takes too much time/effort/ISK to pull off and it doesn't have the result you imagined.
revsadf	Posted - 2009.04.16 13:01:00 - [59] Dont use auto pilot, especially when flying through low sec. YOu will get your ship popped doing this. Use Warp to zero instead. Its faster and its safer. Learn to press f10 when flying through low sec and use a scout Also train for 2 jump clones right away
Lady Spank Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb	Posted - 2009.04.16 13:10:00 - [60] Don't offer ISK loans without collateral (lolscammed for 3.5m)

Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.04.16 13:18:00 - [61] If in doubt, its a tarp! \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Ignis Sancta	Posted - 2009.04.16 13:22:00 - [62] that after spending billions of isk, setting up an entire alliance and a bunch of towers for your alliance to work out of, that no one can use them, and that it doesn't say that anywhere, in fact says that you can set accesses to structures in POS for your alliance, but it's a lie. And CCP won't answer your petition.
Jabezhane	Posted - 2009.04.16 13:25:00 - [63] You can fit more then one implant. Still it was a nice surprise when I found out.
TraininVain	Posted - 2009.04.16 13:25:00 - [64] Originally by: Verone If in doubt, its a tarp! It's EVE. It's always a tarp. Um... the grass isn't greener. Your grass + intensive specialisation is greener.
Inflatable Achura Caldari	Posted - 2009.04.16 13:58:00 - [65] 1) NPC/Starter corporations only reflect 1% (or less, in my opinion) of the fun you can have in EVE Online. 2) Directional Scanner. Learn to use it! 3) Advanced Spaceship Command. This skills does, as reflected by the description, only work on ships that need this skill. Won't help your Interceptor. 4) Signature Analysis 5, although not doing damage per say, might win you the fight. 5) Faction gear/implants can be expensive. Especially if you have no clue how to fly the ship in the first case. I'll sum it up: I pilot is never his/her wallet, but his/her brain.
Grim Amarr Tears of Redemption Avarice.	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:14:00 - [66] Originally by: Louis deGuerre OMG THERE ARE DRONE COMMAND SHORTCUTS AAAAARRRRGHGGHHH (3 months!!!) Really. Well make that 6 years. :P -- Death By Titan :(
Grim Amarr Tears of Redemption Avarice.	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:15:00 - [67] Originally by: Verone If in doubt, its a tarp! tarp? troubled assets relief program? -- Death By Titan :(
Zaknussem Intrum Industria	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:41:00 - [68] The Drone shortcut keys haven't been there all the time, IIRC. I think they first appeared in late 2007/early 2008. That said, I use F9 for Drone = Engage, and F12 for Drone = Return. A couple of tips I've learned that I haven't seen mentioned yet: # Don't rely on anyone else than yourself, even if you do trust them. They may not be around forever to help you. Learn (and train) to be self-sufficient, even if you intend to join a big corp. # Unfortunately, you'll have to read the EvE forums to have an inkling of an idea what's going on in EvE. You'll need a good bullcrap detector while doing so, though. I've saved alot of ISK by simply reading the forums about certain subjects.
Empress Aurora	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:56:00 - [69] Originally by: Kasak Black Don't seek revenge on a player who has wronged you. It takes too much time/effort/ISK to pull off and it doesn't have the result you imagined. Hardest thing to do in Eve. I should hunt you down for suggesting it
Princess Jodi Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:57:00 - [70] Shares mean nothing. If you have less than 51% you own nothing, if you have more than 51% you own it all.

Ignis Sancta	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:59:00 - [71] Access from ccp's own website... "The access tab allows you to set custom access settings for people in your corporation or alliance. This enables corporations to give the ability to add fuel, or maintain a single starbase to someone without giving them the ability to do the same for all starbases owned by your corporation. It also gives the option to limit access to certain structures based on roles. For example, you would like to give a Caretaker access to fueling the Control tower and emptying the silos but at the same time restrict all his access to the Capital Ship Assembly Array where you have a mothership building. " Why does this not work ccp!! WHY??!! ok i'm very sulky. False advertising? o.O
HellSpeed Gallente Estrale Frontiers	Posted - 2009.04.16 15:11:00 - [72] Right click on the "neocom" (sidebar). On the other hand, why are you reading my signature?
Nooma Lar	Posted - 2009.04.16 15:14:00 - [73] This topic is gold. Thanks
Braenca	Posted - 2009.04.16 15:27:00 - [74] Originally by: Grim Originally by: Louis deGuerre OMG THERE ARE DRONE COMMAND SHORTCUTS AAAAARRRRGHGGHHH (3 months!!!) Really. Well make that 6 years. :P 5 years here. How many of us are there? this game is great at reminding you that you are still a NooB!
Jer Bu	Posted - 2009.04.16 16:56:00 - [75] Just because you can fit the launcher (Cruise Missile), doesn't mean you can use that launchers missiles (Cruise Missile)...
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.16 17:29:00 - [76] Don't leave your fully fit Geddon at the new alliance POS when you're in an alliance with over 200 members. Someone will steal it. Never put anything in corporate hangers or other shared containers unless you are mentally prepared to give it away completely, cause it will be taken by someone else. Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------\|\|\|-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
Synex Gallente Oursulaert Industries	Posted - 2009.04.16 17:56:00 - [77] Originally by: Sun Clausewitz That there are a ton of morons who believe in the 'if I mine it, it is free' philosophy. I second that. Synex Oursulaert Industries Freelancer industrialist? Contact me for some exciting opportunities.
Regat Kozovv Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.16 18:30:00 - [78] - Don't get hung up on racing to get the biggest ship you can. Get your support skills up (shields, cap, armor skills) and learn how to fly the smaller ships really well. Then as you get into large vessels, you'll find you have the skill sets to take the best advantage of them. - Once you start flying battlecruisers and up, fit a damage control. - EVE is a game of risk management. Be paranoid. Plan for the worst. Never have all of your assets in on place and pin all of your hopes on one dream. Do this, and you'll never go down. - Have fun!
Llawa Caldari the shadow republic	Posted - 2009.04.16 18:30:00 - [79] 1. Remember to change out of your salvage ship before starting your next mission 2. Don't smack talk bigger boys 3. (My personal favourite) No, you don't need to dock to get ammo everytime you run out (1 week)
Ascuris Wurm	Posted - 2009.04.16 18:32:00 - [80] I learned that when your fleet commander gives the order to "Jump", be sure they meant you.

Liz Laser Three 6 MaFiA Dark Crystal Empire	Posted - 2009.04.16 19:15:00 - [81] Edited by: Liz Laser on 16/04/2009 19:15:09 As others have pointed out... LowSec and 0.0 are a lot emptier and a lot safer than you've been led to believe. Also, don't spend 11 days researching a corp/allliance. You are still going to be surprised by the reality of it. Their Marketing/Recruiting always beats your due diligence, because unlike real world due diligence you don't get to waltz through the corporation and get unbiased answers. Your research or due diligence doesn't really start until you're a member. Hell, just join up, if you're not having fun, just leave.
Milla Jovo	Posted - 2009.04.16 19:38:00 - [82] Learning that I did not need to wait for an empty research or copy slot.
Susie Delgado	Posted - 2009.04.16 19:44:00 - [83] so much hate for Caldari and Missles.... I've got 3 million SP on my main (Caldari) and I think Missles are fun. You can make anything work in pvp as long as you know what you're doing.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2009.04.16 20:04:00 - [84] The Capital Navigation Window (shortcut available) allows you to see Jumps within Range and used fuel, as well as distance. Then Apocrypha 1.0 comes and destroys that, only allowing you to see Startbase Beacons. Warp Core Stabilizers make the Honor Tank look good. Training up Advanced Drone Interfacing for the extra drones. Enter RMR: Carriers only skill. TRAIN TRADE SKILLS. They let you buy and sell things at a distance. Train at least Trade, Retail, Marketing, Contracting and if you like, Broker Relations and Accounting. Max out your fitting skills asap, when possible. Train Electronics, Engineering and Advanced Weapon Upgrades all to 5. www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.quafeultra.com
Major Templar Caldari Knights Templar Defender's	Posted - 2009.04.16 20:06:00 - [85] Originally by: Zaknussem The Drone shortcut keys haven't been there all the time, IIRC. I think they first appeared in late 2007/early 2008. That said, I use F9 for Drone = Engage, and F12 for Drone = Return. This was one of the first things I learned. I remapped them to Alt+Z for Return to bay, Alt+X for engage, and Alt+C for return and Orbit. Major Templar Knights Templar Defender's [-KTD-] Director, POS Manager, Personnel Manager
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2009.04.16 20:18:00 - [86] i learned not to bug report not just get filtered without so much as a glance at it - could've saved me LOTS of time - putting the gist back into logistics
Kylose Boondoggler Gallente Middleton and Mercer LLP Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.04.16 20:30:00 - [87] 1. Learn how turret tracking works. 2. Buy orders enable you to make things stupid cheap. 3. Don't be afraid of Singularity. 4. Use EFT/EveMon liberally. 5. Ask for advice wherever you go, whatever you do, whatever problem you're having. 6. Battleclinic.com is a good starting point for ship fits. 7. The only way to know if fits are as good in reality as on paper is to test them. 8. evegeek.com 9. 0.0 is so much more fun than empire. 10. It's been said before, but when I found a reliable, repeatable source of income, my EVE experienced changed completely. Whatever you do, find something you can tolerate to make money and don't be afraid to blow all your profits on something fun.
Rilwar 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.04.16 20:38:00 - [88] EFT and EVEMon are insanely useful when used in moderation with the knowledge they are not perfect. Don't buy a set of named implants then fall asleep on your keyboard while in space when in a facwar corp Don't buy a 2nd set of named implants then fall asleep again on your keyboard when you're in space again. ---O-H--S-H-I-T---
Karl Luckner	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:16:00 - [89] Caldari in game and in the misleading backstories/descriptions at char screen are two different things.
Riddick I	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:43:00 - [90] 1. You cant do that with a moon

Concorduck Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:47:00 - [91] Should have taken that left turn at Albuquerque ----------------------------------------- Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
Panzram GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.17 00:06:00 - [92] Originally by: Ignis Sancta Access from ccp's own website... "The access tab allows you to set custom access settings for people in your corporation or alliance. This enables corporations to give the ability to add fuel, or maintain a single starbase to someone without giving them the ability to do the same for all starbases owned by your corporation. It also gives the option to limit access to certain structures based on roles. For example, you would like to give a Caretaker access to fueling the Control tower and emptying the silos but at the same time restrict all his access to the Capital Ship Assembly Array where you have a mothership building. " Why does this not work ccp!! WHY??!! ok i'm very sulky. False advertising? o.O holy crap thats not how POS permissions work at all, nice
Forme Noir Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.17 01:32:00 - [93] That when you got podded you had "ghost" implants keeping your training speed up. So you could live in 0.0 without gimping your learning. Bit late to find out now...
Zaknussem Intrum Industria	Posted - 2009.04.17 01:50:00 - [94] Originally by: Forme Noir That when you got podded you had "ghost" implants keeping your training speed up. So you could live in 0.0 without gimping your learning. Bit late to find out now... Didn't they just "fix" this in the new patch?
threeDspider Caldari Caldari and United Breweries The Firm.	Posted - 2009.04.17 02:03:00 - [95] Originally by: Quantar Raalsken Originally by: Milla Jovo Originally by: Louis deGuerre OMG THERE ARE DRONE COMMAND SHORTCUTS AAAAARRRRGHGGHHH (3 months!!!) Since when? TIP: i use: Alt E - engage Alt R - return Alt O - return and orbit . . . . i knew that
Agent Known Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.04.17 02:09:00 - [96] Originally by: Rid*** I* 1. You cant do that with a moon Wait, you can't do what with a moon? Obviously what I say isn't always what my alliance thinks. I hate to break it to you, but this is in fact my signature. Proud ally of CVA
Leon Caedo	Posted - 2009.04.17 02:33:00 - [97] My biggest ones: -Don't join a 0.0 corp when you're < 1 month into the game and expect to actually be able to do anything in 0.0 - other than watch the vets kill everything and be bored out of your mind. -Don't spend all of your money on 1 ship, leaving 1 mil to insure and fit it. When you go boom (and oh, you will eventually) you won't have enough money to get that same set up, let alone that ship. -Salvaging and selling everything in a market hub.
Pater Peccavi Minmatar Tactical Initiative	Posted - 2009.04.17 02:34:00 - [98] Rats can warp scramble http://www.darkcadre.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=243 I was all happy about finding that exploration site, I had to check it out. Then I see the message that I'm being Warp scrambled, with 10 frig rats on me. Ensue running away in a straight line (it's deadspace, so the MWD doesn't work) while asking for help in alliance. When help arrives, I have to turn around and approach him. Stupid me uses the "Approach button," so I pretty much stop when I reach him. By the time I realize my mistake, I try to run away again but it's too late. Originally by: Forme Noir That when you got podded you had "ghost" implants keeping your training speed up. So you could live in 0.0 without gimping your learning. Bit late to find out now... Yep, guess what patch I found out about that in This is a post. It says stuff.
Fugly duck	Posted - 2009.04.17 02:34:00 - [99] Originally by: Sun Clausewitz That there are a ton of morons who believe in the 'if I mine it, it is free' philosophy. Never understood this stupid way of thinking either
Forme Noir Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.17 02:38:00 - [100] Originally by: Zaknussem Originally by: Forme Noir That when you got podded you had "ghost" implants keeping your training speed up. So you could live in 0.0 without gimping your learning. Bit late to find out now... Didn't they just "fix" this in the new patch? Yes they did. That's why I wish I'd found out sooner.

Jer Bu	Posted - 2009.04.25 16:33:00 - [101] - When missioning, try to work for corporations with Loyalty Point Store items that you would actually want....
Acinonyx Jubatus Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.04.25 21:52:00 - [102] Don't advance too fast... it kinda sank in after a month or two, but let me tell you... grinding level 1's to get an Enyo at then 20ish mill at a rate of around 50-100k per mission only to lose it shortly after. Repeat that and it racks up. Yeah, I could have made easily 100-150 mill in the amount of isk I'd wasted on T2 friggies then. Back then I was totally focused on frigate specializing(namely AF's in 06), I should have on the other hand gone for T1 cruisers and worked on improving them and BC, save me a lot of work. Or even T1 frigs with proper fits.
Arushia Nova Labs Empire Research	Posted - 2009.04.26 07:05:00 - [103] Jaspet is not worth mining in low-sec, or for that matter, anywhere.
Vidi Angelus Caldari Crystal Dynamics Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.04.26 09:53:00 - [104] Edited by: Vidi Angelus on 26/04/2009 09:53:42 Originally by: Leon Caedo My biggest ones: -Don't join a 0.0 corp when you're < 1 month into the game and expect to actually be able to do anything in 0.0 - other than watch the vets kill everything and be bored out of your mind. -Don't spend all of your money on 1 ship, leaving 1 mil to insure and fit it. When you go boom (and oh, you will eventually) you won't have enough money to get that same set up, let alone that ship. -Salvaging and selling everything in a market hub. I'll disagree, I joined a 0.0 corp 1 week in, and since 2 weeks old have spent 99% of my time in 0.0. Plenty to do YMMV
Barrak	Posted - 2009.04.26 11:18:00 - [105] If you fly a large, missile spewing Battleship..... drones are your best friend. I have returned from 2 years out of the game and have 13mill SP and never even though about drones. In one day I have trained to level 3 drones and level 2 scout drone. I can now launch 3 drones that will remove those annoying small fighters that my BS is incapable of hitting. Cost is minimal against the cost of the missles that fail to hit them!
Ichandasil Minmatar Department of Defence	Posted - 2009.04.27 12:28:00 - [106] 1) Never let anyone tell you what to fly, fly what you like. 2) If you find a corp whose members you can trust and get along with, stay with them, even if they don't PvP/Carebear as much as you'd like. 3) You can contribute, and have a blast, in 0.0 with 8 million SP's. 4) EFT and Eve Mon are invaluable tools, but make sure you know their limitations. 5) Your enjoyment of the game will be greatly enhanced if you spend most of your time not playing it and enjoying RL.
Julius Rigel House Rigel	Posted - 2009.04.27 12:41:00 - [107] Underpaid work sucks. Eve just taught me the other day, I was honestly quite surprised. I was thinking "Oh boy, I just have to show up for 8 hours a day and I get 30 bucks!" but it turns out this stupid brain container of mine needs more than half an hour of sleep every night.
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.04.27 13:22:00 - [108] Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 27/04/2009 13:23:07 I hope you get trolled in your topic as much as you troll others but its a reasonable question. 10 most poignant to me I suppose; 1. Research agents = Free isk 2. Acceleration gates don't work when scrambled (But stargates do) 3. Enabling ship types in overview lets you know straightaway whether the ship that jumped in is worth engaging rather than wrestling with the camera for a visual and any induced lag it recieves. 4. Don't get too attached to anything because CCP change practically everything every single 5 minutes. 5. There are a lot of ** corps out there and a lot of users, in the end you'll probably never find happiness in a group unless you have some pretty dedicated patience in working your way into their inner circle and feeling part of the group. 6. Empire pvp sucks, no smartbombs, lots of ecm drones, tons of alts. 7. No matter how much you want to sell a character off at a time you always start to want him back a little when they're gone, especially when everyone else whines and they introduce attribute remapping in the end anyway. 8. CCP as a whole are full of **, watered down by a handful of very brilliant hardworking game designers. 9. The eve forums will permantentely alter you into a nitpicking whiner on everything that has a great urge to post one liners and meme's. 10. I wish I knew I wouldn't be able to think of 10 things before I said I would. if you disagree with me then you should probably post a response and stop reading my signature.
tla s'hpyt	Posted - 2009.04.27 14:19:00 - [109] Edited by: tla s''hpyt on 27/04/2009 14:21:02 if your going to alt tab out to watch p*** turn on your shield booster/Armour hardener first. Some fc's are really crap (like flying our fleet through an enemy camp and not stopping when they scram a bunch of us). Never trust anyone, ever. especially not RA or goons never place all your isk in one venture. Just because you can be an bastard doesn't mean you should, being friendly will almost always get you a better result (unless your dealing with goons). learn to shut up sit at the back and listen till you are really, really sure you know what's going on. EFT is to be used as a calculator not a designer or a way to win arguments. If you are going to choose a nice quiet low sec system to start your noobish mining days in don't choose a system where a capital builder lives, especially someone who builds capitals for your enemies. (nooby mining cruiser vs moros is not pretty).
Naradius DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.27 14:50:00 - [110] In Eve, never underestimate your own stupidity and never count your chickens...ever: 1. Jump into a 0.0 gate camp full of dastardly hostiles. 2. Set the autopilot so you can burn back to the gate and immediately jump, thus outwitting those dastardly hostiles. 3. Still get blown up in your failed attempt to outwit those dastardly hostiles. 4. Feel all smug and relieved as you save your pod by spamming warp to random celestial, while mentioning in local on how a 0.0 gate camp without a bubble is fail. 5. Realise too late that the safe celestial object was only a brief encounter (as well as your smugness) and the auto pilot has warped you straight back to the same gate camp + 1 newly deployed bubble

5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.04.27 15:08:00 - [111] Originally by: threeDspider Originally by: Quantar Raalsken Originally by: Milla Jovo Originally by: Louis deGuerre OMG THERE ARE DRONE COMMAND SHORTCUTS AAAAARRRRGHGGHHH (3 months!!!) Since when? TIP: i use: Alt E - engage Alt R - return Alt O - return and orbit . . . . i knew that OH SHI... if you disagree with me then you should probably post a response and stop reading my signature.
Kale Kold Caldari Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2009.04.27 15:13:00 - [112] You can make a load more ISK just taking it from people instead of making it yourself! Criminal Record
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp LAST JUDGEMENT	Posted - 2009.04.27 15:18:00 - [113] Originally by: Sidrat Flush I've learnt to ask questions and talk to people where ever I meet them. Mining in the same belt - convo. Got shot down passing through low sec - convo (be nice, it's just a game) see a forum *** in local - convo. Make contacts EVERYWHERE. Finally never assume a two day character belongs to a brand new player. The game could be called Alts-Online. This is the single best piece of advice I've ever seen given on these forums. Also, learn to use the map and all of the statistics fuctions. -- Originally by:** CCP Oveur Just donæt forget the reach-around.
Guttripper State War Academy	Posted - 2009.04.27 18:45:00 - [114] Have fun and remember the journey to your goals. Do not let your goals blind you to the present moment because those present moments will be your past memories once you reach your goals. "I remember when..."
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.04.27 19:43:00 - [115] Originally by: Agent Known Originally by: Rid*** I* 1. You cant do that with a moon Wait, you can't do what with a moon? I suspect that this belongs in the "What I wish I'd never found out" thread.
Veng3ance Multiversal Enterprise Inc. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.04.27 20:25:00 - [116] Originally by: Babel Edited by: Babel on 16/04/2009 11:42:56 Edited by: Babel on 16/04/2009 11:41:27 5. That you can link Regions, Constellations and Systems into chat windows by dragging from the title at the top of each F11 mapbrowser box - Total Win ! Ummm..... I love you?
Malachi Filthy Scum Scum Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.27 20:53:00 - [117] Originally by: Vincent Gaines Edited by: Vincent Gaines on 15/04/2009 19:45:36 double check your cargo hold and make sure your cargo is there before embarking on that 25 jump trip. I've lost count the number of times I've done that in a freighter
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.04.27 20:56:00 - [118] Originally by: Veng3ance Originally by: Babel Edited by: Babel on 16/04/2009 11:42:56 Edited by: Babel on 16/04/2009 11:41:27 5. That you can link Regions, Constellations and Systems into chat windows by dragging from the title at the top of each F11 mapbrowser box - Total Win ! Ummm..... I love you? God this thread is a treasure trove of information. if you disagree with me then you should probably post a response and stop reading my signature.
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.04.27 21:05:00 - [119] Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 27/04/2009 21:05:48 Originally by: Malasen Takhos That Gallente armour tank and do not use missiles Lachesis. Edit: Villore is high-sec.
Rakrist	Posted - 2009.04.27 22:29:00 - [120] ITT: evidence Eve needs a frickin' manual. More thanks to Babel for the Region/Constellation linking trick.



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