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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.04.28 12:58:00 -
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Okay, so try fitting a rack of HMLs, gang mod and MWD on the Nighthawk. That doesn't work either.
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SuperNova221
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Posted - 2009.04.28 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren Any of the freighters.
-Liang
Freighters are juicy bait. Better for a small pirate gang than a Naglfar by far! Probably more mobile and useful.
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.04.28 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Stalina
Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Nighthawk. Try fitting an mwd, a full rack of hams, and anything else on it without using RCUs.
CCP says, you are doing it wrong :
Quote: 17. 0102-01-0047 Nighthawk needs a power grid increase While the Nighthawk may have some performance issues, due to the lack of power output, compared to the other field command ships, the ship is not designed to fit Heavy Assault Missile launchers and Micro Warp Drives.
I'm going to put this as simply as possible.
CCP is wrong.
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Stalina
Gallente Deep Space Exploration Squad Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.04.28 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III Okay, so try fitting a rack of HMLs, gang mod and MWD on the Nighthawk. That doesn't work either.
Fail.
Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega
I'm going to put this as simply as possible.
CCP is wrong.
Fail. ________________________________________
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AnKahn
Caldari The Giant Squid Corp.
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Posted - 2009.04.28 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Known Commander
Originally by: AnKahn Ferox.
I disagree , the ferox is a good ship :)
(What seems to be a good fit for a Ferox)
I was sort of joking with the standard old skool response to the OP question. As I was passing thru battlecrusers as a pure Caldari I *suprise* did not have gun skills. I'm only getting to them now. So I will not dis the Ferox.
I am now cross trained Gallente and fly drone boats. Skilling up guns slowly (many distractions). So when I get tech II blasters which race BC will I fly? The Ferox?
I might try it.
Just the forums have become bizzaro land with Amarr and Caldari on top and people making fun of Gallente??? Please tell me people get the joke. Hint. Gallente isn't nerfed.
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Known Commander
Krieger Allianz NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.28 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: Known Commander on 28/04/2009 14:29:47
Originally by: AnKahn
Originally by: Known Commander
Originally by: AnKahn Ferox.
I disagree , the ferox is a good ship :)
(What seems to be a good fit for a Ferox)
I was sort of joking with the standard old skool response to the OP question. As I was passing thru battlecrusers as a pure Caldari I *suprise* did not have gun skills. I'm only getting to them now. So I will not dis the Ferox.
I am now cross trained Gallente and fly drone boats. Skilling up guns slowly (many distractions). So when I get tech II blasters which race BC will I fly? The Ferox?
I might try it.
Just the forums have become bizzaro land with Amarr and Caldari on top and people making fun of Gallente??? Please tell me people get the joke. Hint. Gallente isn't nerfed.
Ah you are doing the same as me :)
I can promise you , that you will not regret training Gun's just gotta start on my drone skills ;p I like both the Brutix and ferox however they are both dwarfed by the harby ----------------------
Death Before Dishonor
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.28 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Noodly Appendage osprey was pretty terrible last i tried
They are great because many will try to attack you, as they dont expect it to fight back. And yea this is my sig. Real PVP'ers only use f1. |
Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.04.28 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Stalina Fail.
Regardless of whether or not CCP is correct in their intentions for the Nighthawk, this is still a thread about the worst pvp ship. And a battlecruiser size ship that can't fit a mwd is useless.
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.28 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: lollerwaffle on 28/04/2009 14:45:21 lol @ all the people saying drake
edit: actually drakes are crap, don't primary them, ever. They do no dps and have massive tank amirite? (hoping drakes do down in price but fat chance with all the mission runners)
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Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity
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Posted - 2009.04.28 14:46:00 -
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Edited by: Morel Nova on 28/04/2009 14:46:34
Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega
Originally by: Stalina Fail.
Regardless of whether or not CCP is correct in their intentions for the Nighthawk, this is still a thread about the worst pvp ship. And a battlecruiser size ship that can't fit a mwd is useless.
no no no, the nighthawk has a big important caldari role: dying EVEN SLOWER than a drake while providing absolutely nothing to the gang! :o Put in space whales!
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.04.28 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Morel Nova no no no, the nighthawk has a big important caldari role: dying EVEN SLOWER than a drake while providing absolutely nothing to the gang! :o
Don't worry I made sure to fit my taunt module. Watch the aggro guys. Especially the rogues!
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.04.28 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Stalina CCP says, you are doing it wrong :
Quote: 17. 0102-01-0047 Nighthawk needs a power grid increase While the Nighthawk may have some performance issues, due to the lack of power output, compared to the other field command ships, the ship is not designed to fit Heavy Assault Missile launchers and Micro Warp Drives.
Read your own quote, Stalina. CCP does not say no to HMs and MWD.
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.28 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Stalina
Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Nighthawk. Try fitting an mwd, a full rack of hams, and anything else on it without using RCUs.
CCP says, you are doing it wrong :
Quote: 17. 0102-01-0047 Nighthawk needs a power grid increase While the Nighthawk may have some performance issues, due to the lack of power output, compared to the other field command ships, the ship is not designed to fit Heavy Assault Missile launchers and Micro Warp Drives.
At least they are aware of it, and said they might change it. As I hope they do.
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Jack Dubrow
The Drekla Consortium
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow
hell yeah man, quad light beams and 400mm plates, keep living the dream!
You can get 20k EHP with 2x RCU II's and a larger plate...but requires you to drop the MAR II.
I personally prefer having the MAR II for repping post-fight with the...I think it was like 13 to 16k EHP with the 400 plates?
Around 250 DPS with my skills using the faction crystals, 6km optimal. 22km optimal with aurora but your tracking suffers.
We don't see Moa's because Moa's suck. In a gang people would prefer an Omen over a Moa.
In a gate camp...you "might" want a Moa over an Omen...actually no you wouldn't. Sniping at the cruiser level is pathetic.
I will say that a gang SHOULD prefer a Bellicose over Omen or Moa though...that's for sure. ---
Let all of it fall to the ground and burn with what we can not smell! |
Hara Eflo
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:49:00 -
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erm... battle exquror(sp?) :D
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Flitz Farseeker
Gallente Interstellar Stormfront
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:06:00 -
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+1 vote for the Exequror. It's even bad as a mission runner. It only has some utility as a salvage boat or mining ship.
The Navy Exequror is slightly better, although it's still worse than a normal Vexor or Thorax and only worth taking into PVP to give someone a comedy killmail.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak Auguror?
why going for it, if with a bit more of skilling you can be in a guardian?
I don't think i've ever seen an Augoror in space, ever.
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Misaniovent
Blood Phage Syndicate Dominatus Atrum Mortis
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:26:00 -
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The Retribution is the worst PVP ship in the game. There is always a better choice if you need a ship in a frigate gang to do DPS. A frigate in a gang must be able to tackle, always. Always. Always.
Except the Kitsune, but for entirely different reasons. That said, the Retribution is an excellent PVE ship.
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steveid
Killed In Action The Firm.
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Grimpak Auguror?
why going for it, if with a bit more of skilling you can be in a guardian?
I don't think i've ever seen an Augoror in space, ever.
I've seen them used for pvp in fact, makes a pretty good heavy tackle due to its silly ability to have everlasting armor. Some low sec pimpmobile squad gave me a raping with a rattlesnake and an augorer once in my geddon. Happy days.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:59:00 -
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I lol hard every time I see somebody bring a hawk to an enemy gang.
I rage harder every time I see one of them in one of my gangs. Crap dps, crap tank, doesn't do anything another ship cant' do better, slow, expensive, just all around terrible. __________________________________
Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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kor anon
Amarr Seerauber-Vereinigung
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Posted - 2009.04.28 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: steveid
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Grimpak Auguror?
why going for it, if with a bit more of skilling you can be in a guardian?
I don't think i've ever seen an Augoror in space, ever.
I've seen them used for pvp in fact, makes a pretty good heavy tackle due to its silly ability to have everlasting armor. Some low sec pimpmobile squad gave me a raping with a rattlesnake and an augorer once in my geddon. Happy days.
Are you sure that wasnt a navy augoror? i have one they are awesome
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Stalina
Gallente Deep Space Exploration Squad Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.04.28 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Stalina on 28/04/2009 17:11:24
Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Stalina CCP says, you are doing it wrong :
Quote: 17. 0102-01-0047 Nighthawk needs a power grid increase While the Nighthawk may have some performance issues, due to the lack of power output, compared to the other field command ships, the ship is not designed to fit Heavy Assault Missile launchers and Micro Warp Drives.
Read your own quote, Stalina. CCP does not say no to HMs and MWD.
Wow you are a total fool. Read the quote again. It does not say : "Don't use HAMS while using an MWD". It says you shouldn't use neither MWD's nor HAMS.
Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega
Originally by: Stalina Fail.
Regardless of whether or not CCP is correct in their intentions for the Nighthawk, this is still a thread about the worst pvp ship. And a battlecruiser size ship that can't fit a mwd is useless.
Did EFT tell you that? ________________________________________
________________________________________ http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.04.28 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Gypsio III on 28/04/2009 17:18:22
Don't be thick, Stalina. "And" ≠ "Or". You appear to be confusing the following two statements.
Originally by: CCP The ship is not designed to fit Heavy Assault Missile launchers and Micro Warp Drives.
Originally by: Stalina's Imagination The ship is not designed to fit Heavy Assault Missile launchers or Micro Warp Drives.
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.04.28 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Stalina
Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega Regardless of whether or not CCP is correct in their intentions for the Nighthawk, this is still a thread about the worst pvp ship. And a battlecruiser size ship that can't fit a mwd is useless.
Did EFT tell you that?
Wow, the irony of this is mind-boggling.
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.04.28 17:35:00 -
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Worst Solo PVP Ship in the game.... Pick a Caldari one. ///my vote is for sale, he who sends the most iskies gets it\\\ |
Grimpak
Gallente Clubs and Diamonds
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Posted - 2009.04.28 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega And a battlecruiser size ship that can't fit a mwd is useless.
it is?
ok yeah, mwd and AB are mandatory in pvp yadda yadda yadda.
but a BC that can't fit a mwd is really that useless?
what the hell are you trying to do with it, break the speed record?
Originally by: Misaniovent A frigate in a gang must be able to tackle, always. Always. Always.
why sure.
next time I'll go in a PVP OP I'll be the prime tackler in my nemesis or my buzzard.
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Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Grimpak
Gallente Clubs and Diamonds
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: steveid
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Grimpak Auguror?
why going for it, if with a bit more of skilling you can be in a guardian?
I don't think i've ever seen an Augoror in space, ever.
I've seen them used for pvp in fact, makes a pretty good heavy tackle due to its silly ability to have everlasting armor. Some low sec pimpmobile squad gave me a raping with a rattlesnake and an augorer once in my geddon. Happy days.
navy aug? probably.
standart, run of the mill aug? only usage I can find for it is to produce guardians tbh. ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
KiSsMy MuFfInMaN
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:07:00 -
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Osprey? followed by Osprey navy issue?
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Davinel Lulinvega And a battlecruiser size ship that can't fit a mwd is useless.
it is?
ok yeah, mwd and AB are mandatory in pvp yadda yadda yadda.
but a BC that can't fit a mwd is really that useless?
what the hell are you trying to do with it, break the speed record?
Range control. It's kind of a big deal. Unless you enjoy being humped by blasterbrutes or anything else that can outgank a nighthawk at short range (hint: almost anything).
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak navy aug? probably.
standart, run of the mill aug? only usage I can find for it is to produce guardians tbh.
You can use it as a bad navy aug I guess....????
Quote: [Augoror, BAIT TACKLE!!1] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Reactor Control Unit II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II
10MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Scrambler II
Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency S Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency S Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency S Small Energy Neutralizer II
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Warrior II x1
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Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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