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Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.20 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: Ji Sama on 20/05/2009 08:27:55
 Originally by: Companion Qube
Confirming receipt of 1000 TMP shares via Caleb and transfer of 500M.
@Ji: Don't Madoff me bro!
Hi Qube...
Hmm that Madoff fellow sounds like a nice guy though, he gave alot to charity :p
EDIT: That being said, there is still around 2000 reserved but unpaid shares. These will be sold to highest bidder if they arent paid asap...
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Gabriel Virtus
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.05.21 05:16:00 -
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As I reread the IPO plan, and the AT LEAST 2 edits that have gone through on the part about buyback, I realize that in the event of a completely successful IPO and business, Ji Sama still has the ability to rebuy all the shares at 95% of value. At first, I thought this was an offer to investors that wanted to liquidate their shares early and should rightly suffer a penalty. He has built in a guaranteed profit for himself. I thought it was an offer for investors needing liquidity, but it is what he is absolutely going to buy back all his shares for... less than people paid for them in the first place. How does this possibly make any sort of sense? Best case scenario with a very successful business plan, Ji still makes 1.25B in profit built into the plan.
Why do you keep editing the business plan an unknown amount of times? Why would you buyback shares after a successful business at a price lower than the initial investment? In the event of a closed IPO, all shares should be liquidated and all assets should be returned to share holders after debts are paid. You liquidate all assets belonging to TMP and payback debts and then split the rest to the shareholders.
I can understand a penalty for those wanted to sell shares back to you, but why would you penalize an initial investment when YOU decide to liquidate shares? This is ridiculous, I am a new investor and have learned quite a bit after watching the rocky launching of this IPO and rather strange business plan and can honestly say that I regret investing in the first place.
-GV
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.05.21 05:25:00 -
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Linkage
Ji hasn't made any changes to the buyback plan. If you didn't like that part to begin with, then why invest in it?
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Gabriel Virtus
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.05.21 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson
Linkage
Ji hasn't made any changes to the buyback plan. If you didn't like that part to begin with, then why invest in it?
I am new to investing and I assumed that it was an offer to buyback shares from investors trying to get out before the IPO closes, etc. Not a 95% buyback plan that can be forced on investors at any point, including now and make everyone take a 5% loss. It was my mistake to not read more carefully, but still think this is rather odd feature to use even after a successful IPO.
-GV
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.05.21 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Virtus
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Linkage
Ji hasn't made any changes to the buyback plan. If you didn't like that part to begin with, then why invest in it?
I am new to investing and I assumed that it was an offer to buyback shares from investors trying to get out before the IPO closes, etc. Not a 95% buyback plan that can be forced on investors at any point, including now and make everyone take a 5% loss. It was my mistake to not read more carefully, but still think this is rather odd feature to use even after a successful IPO.
-GV
A 95% buyback is a nessescary evil.
It yields several benefits.
- Keeps people from investing and then selling their shares back straight after first payout. Keeps people invested rather than people only picking up shares right around payout days.
- It makes sure that people are less likely to sell back, which could cause liquidity problem for the IPO
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.21 08:05:00 -
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There is no problem.
95% Buyback is more than fair.
There is no hidden profit in this for me.
Considering a minimum of 7% return ie, 35K per share: you just need 1 dividend payment as an investor and your at 102% ie. 2% ROI
But since i aint closing shop for atleast the first half year. And i expect this Joint Stock Venture to run for no less than a full year. There is more than an incetement for any investor.
Not counting the fact, that i have just tripled your share value.
But as stated, if you feel i havent been fourthcomming, just return your shares and you will be compensated in full...
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Maxwell Terallis
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Posted - 2009.05.22 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Virtus
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Linkage
Ji hasn't made any changes to the buyback plan. If you didn't like that part to begin with, then why invest in it?
I am new to investing and I assumed that it was an offer to buyback shares from investors trying to get out before the IPO closes, etc. Not a 95% buyback plan that can be forced on investors at any point, including now and make everyone take a 5% loss. It was my mistake to not read more carefully, but still think this is rather odd feature to use even after a successful IPO.
-GV
Here is the line from the business plan:
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Fourth phase: TMP Industries offers buy back at 95%
That says: "offers" buy back. Where are you getting Ji can "force" a buyback at any time on people? This is an opportunity for people to get out with minimal loss, if they believe this IPO is going to fail during the buyback period of the phases, which is right now.
It isn't even physically possible for Ji to "force" people to sell back their shares. That's like me forcing you to give me your ship. You are in possession of the shares you purchased. The only way Ji is getting those back is if you transfer them over to him.
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sherlock homes
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Posted - 2009.05.24 03:32:00 -
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I would be willing to invest. around 300mill to 400mill.
I see this as a risk/reward.
it seems ok. I can lose this amount of isk as i can easly get it back.
the plan looks ok.
we will see how it goes
sherlock homes out.
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.24 10:36:00 -
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all shares are currently sold out, you would have to get in contact with a shareholder.
current estimated share value is 1.35M per share...
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.02 21:08:00 -
[340]
Ji Sama made an announcement in the SCC lounge saying that a dividend report is soon coming out. This is the part that got me confused; She said that the NAV has tripled.
How did it tripled? The IPO started out with 24.5 billion as per Ji Sama. The NAV was adjusted to reflect the addition of 50 billion in hard and soft asset from TMP. I asked Ji if TMP had issued shares for the 50 billion and she replied no. So, this transaction has effectively tripled the NAV.
Ji Sama also told everyone in SCC lounge that the value of the shares is tied to the NAV. So, this change in how shares are valued has basically tripled everybody's investment. Ji has also said that the buyback price of shares will be at what the current value of the shares is as opposed to the 90% in the original IPO document.
Now, I'm just looking out for Ji Sama here but when she buyback the shares at NAV value, she would effectively be out of 50 billion right?
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.06.02 21:16:00 -
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First off..
TMP Industries is CURRENTLY offering buyback @ 95% ie. 475K per share.
Its also stated that when this whole thing is over, i and perhaps other key persons will be taking an unspecified share of TMP Industries.
But yes, if i dont take a piece of TMP Industries when it closes shop, i will effectively be out of 50B.....
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"Lecherito on Market Discussion: Though I have to go down on the record as saying that I'm convinced the majority of the MD community is ******ed" |
Victoria Akmea
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.06.05 15:00:00 -
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Edited by: Victoria Akmea on 05/06/2009 15:00:36
Logged on and found some flashy wallet. First dividend payout, methinks. May have missed one though. To the tune of 10.1% initial investment. Profits are flowing more than normal, me doth cry.
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.06.05 15:26:00 -
[343]
dividends have been paid out a day in advance... enjoy :D
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"Lecherito on Market Discussion: Though I have to go down on the record as saying that I'm convinced the majority of the MD community is ******ed" |
Marcus Baltar
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Posted - 2009.06.05 17:43:00 -
[344]
Confirmation of payment (dividend) received;
2009.06.05 12:29, 12:34, 12:36
Total of 25,249,999.99 ISK received in wallet from three in-game dividend payments totalling 5,050,000,000 ISK.
500 Tash-Murkon Prime Industries shares (cost 500,000 ISK each) in my wallet confirms a 50,499.99 ISK dividend.
This dividend means 100,000 shares are in existence.
Total received to date (500,000 ISK IPO share value):
( 50,499.99 ISK dividend per share : 10.09% return )
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DesuSigs |
TastyTreat
Fraternity of Obnoxious Lemmings
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Posted - 2009.06.05 22:15:00 -
[345]
Confirming receipt of 37,874,999.99 isk in dividends for 750 shares.
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Gabriel Virtus
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.06.06 03:39:00 -
[346]
Confirming receipt of 25,249,999.99 isk on 500 shares(250mil) or 10.09% dividend. Dividend was paid on 6/05/09 @ roughly 12:30 server time.
Thanks Ji Sama and TMPI! Div paid ahead of schedule and above expected returns.
-GV |
Indy Indy
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Posted - 2009.06.06 06:11:00 -
[347]
payment of dividend recieved
better that expected return thanks! |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.06 07:41:00 -
[348]
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In a perfect world Caleb should be paying money to be involved in this, rather than taking a fee
Business is based on the premise the world is not perfect.
Think about the implications of my above sentence...
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Caleb Ayrania
Gallente
TarNec
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.06.07 04:56:00 -
[349]
My real life bank account says that I am.. so the ambiguity is complete..
- Money is Love -
Sometimes it just gets bend the wrong ways.
Feed your Brain:
Innovation Thread |
Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.06.25 13:01:00 -
[350]
This is a general service announcement brought to you by TMPI.
Be advised: Lecherito is no longer affiliated in any way whatsoever with TMPI.
His resignation takes effect later today.
This will not have an effect on TMPI's NAV, ROI, ROA or REV.
TMPI |
TastyTreat
Fraternity of Obnoxious Lemmings
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Posted - 2009.07.05 22:51:00 -
[351]
Confirming receipt of two dividend payments of 13,211,625 isk totaling 26,423,250 isk for 750 shares.
Any reason why there has been no word from Ji Sama concerning this month's dividends? Seems kind of odd for there to be no statement from the IPO manager when dividends are being disbursed. Still happy with the ROI so far, keep it up Ji!
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Varo Jan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.06 00:11:00 -
[352]
Ji¦s on holiday RL at the moment. He must have escaped from the wife and kids long enough to disburse dividends. 
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TastyTreat
Fraternity of Obnoxious Lemmings
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Posted - 2009.07.06 00:13:00 -
[353]
Originally by: Varo Jan
Ji¦s on holiday RL at the moment. He must have escaped from the wife and kids long enough to disburse dividends.
Ah, thanks for the info... I must have missed the memo. 
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Marcus Baltar
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Posted - 2009.07.06 18:37:00 -
[354]
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Confirmation of payment (dividend) received;
2009.07.03 15:25, 15:26
Total of 17,615,500 ISK received in wallet, made by "Ji Sama" using 2 in-game dividend payments totalling 3,523,100,000 ISK.
Using "Tash-Murkon Prime Industries" (ticker: T-M P) shares in my wallet confirms a 35,231 ISK (7.04%) dividend per share.
This dividend means 100,000 shares are in existence.
Total received since 2009.05.10 (link) (500,000 ISK per share value at share purchase date):
( 85,730.99 ISK per share : 17.14% return ).
(This was the second (2nd) payment since 2009.05.10)
Thanks.
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DesuSigs |
Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.07.11 15:29:00 -
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I have been away on holiday; i had the choice between paying out late with an announcement, or paying out on time, without an announcement.
i hope you understand the choice i took.
confirming interest payment of 7.19%
thank you for your patience.
i promise you that reports are made, and are currently being made ready for disclosure!
because of the sheer workload these reports generate, we have gone from monthly to quarterly reports..
again, thank you for you understanding and support.
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.08.07 10:50:00 -
[356]
Dividends totalling 8.3% have been paid out today.
Enjoy!
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TastyTreat
Fraternity of Obnoxious Lemmings
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Posted - 2009.08.07 13:47:00 -
[357]
Confirming receipt 4 dividend payments. Thanks Ji!!!
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Taram Caldar
GK inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.07 19:13:00 -
[358]
Confirming receipt of 4 dividend payments
TYVM!
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.08.08 12:56:00 -
[359]
hmm, i think i made a calculation error, enjoy the 12.04% return :)
i will calculate this against the next months dividend payment.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2009.08.08 13:00:00 -
[360]
Originally by: Ji Sama
i will calculate this against the next months dividend payment.
Aka. THIS WILL BE DEALT WITH.
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