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Hormus
Veria Ltd.
5
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Posted - 2012.05.12 22:11:00 -
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Datacores is the main source of price difference between T2 BPO and T2 BPC manufactured items. If datacores get more expensive, ppl that manufacture with invention will have to increase prices - but those with T2 BPO's are not affected. So, the shamefull gap between T2 BPO owners and the rest manufacturers will get bigger. Bad move, CCP. |
Crimson's Girl
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.12 23:40:00 -
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Factional Warfare Data Cores need to have the same science skill requirements for redemption just like civilians have. That makes it balanced pertaining to time spent training specific skills as well as not break immersion. Everything else pertaining to Factional Warfare getting access to Data Cores is fine.
This game is advertised as allowing players to do any type of game play style with multiple option's. Seems like you keep trying to force players to play this game a certain way as well as phase out PvE content. If that happens, you can kiss my accounts goodbye. Personally, I think you guys keep fuc'in this game up more and more each year which keeps pushing me closer and closer to canceling all of my accounts. |
Shang Ghjuvan
Ghjuvan Research Agency
9
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Posted - 2012.05.13 01:56:00 -
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I was rather irritated when I saw the datacore thing...... I thought the datacore thing was considered one of those things you worked for and achieved, I would rather see it turn into something that takes weekly or monthly activity like pi then to just straight nerf it..... It kind of makes me feel cheated because I spent the money to have an alt account to train them, spend the time on my main to train it, and spent MONTHS trying to get enough standing on all three chars......... Back then you could amost get a monthly plex off it and now the income is laughable..... If you let them build up for a month the time it takes to collect them results in less isk/hr than running level 4s. And then you nerf them???? Really? |
Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Intrepid Crossing
279
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Posted - 2012.05.13 02:46:00 -
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The datacore change makes no sense whatsoever. T2 production costs will increase and the datacores don't even fit into the FW storyline. Furthermore, a cost to retrieve them? Why? All that does is add the cost to the sale. It won't matter to anyone.
Kinda dumbfounded by this change. It's not a lot of isk. I don't see the point plus it's just market transactions, not some free isk faucet. Leave it alone imo. Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! |
SigmaPi
Valkyr Industries Late Night Alliance
44
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Posted - 2012.05.13 02:49:00 -
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Hormus wrote:Datacores is the main source of price difference between T2 BPO and T2 BPC manufactured items. If datacores get more expensive, ppl that manufacture with invention will have to increase prices - but those with T2 BPO's are not affected. So, the shamefull gap between T2 BPO owners and the rest manufacturers will get bigger. Bad move, CCP.
That's a load of bull. The #1 price point is from the negative ME - that translates to a huge amount of waste on bpcs. The datacores are almost negligable in all cases to the price of the final product. I know - I do invention as my primary income. |
Morgan Dinn
The 20th Legion Mildly Sober
1
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Posted - 2012.05.13 03:43:00 -
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Udonor wrote: **** LOL - in fact I a can see organized groups of people farming the hell out of factional warfare complexes by using alt corps to play both sides then intentionally letting a complex or system be taken easily and then retaken easily. *****
I think I'll start doing this just **** off CCP cause they are screwing up my r&d skills. Datacore prices has doubled in a week so there are good isks involved in all of this. :P |
Blau Viper
Last of the Brunnen-G
0
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Posted - 2012.05.13 08:10:00 -
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SigmaPi wrote:Hormus wrote:Datacores is the main source of price difference between T2 BPO and T2 BPC manufactured items. If datacores get more expensive, ppl that manufacture with invention will have to increase prices - but those with T2 BPO's are not affected. So, the shamefull gap between T2 BPO owners and the rest manufacturers will get bigger. Bad move, CCP. That's a load of bull. The #1 price point is from the negative ME - that translates to a huge amount of waste on bpcs. The datacores are almost negligable in all cases to the price of the final product. I know - I do invention as my primary income.
When I said that and suggested that CCP were looking at the wrong ISK facet and suggested rebalancing T2 BPOs against BPCs my post was removed as off topic! This change does nothing to address the real issue of inventions viability, and if I mention the reason for that lack of viability the post will be removed, odd that. |
Vyktor Abyss
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
139
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Posted - 2012.05.13 21:46:00 -
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I got a tinfoil hat just for you.
But yeah, minimum datacore price just gifts t2 bpo owners more isk per run.
t2 bpos are relics of the past and need removal/nerfing to insignificance. |
Caesar Rae
Legio VIII Augusta
0
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Posted - 2012.05.14 00:44:00 -
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Besides making T2 gear more expensive , and possibly rarer , messing with datacores is a generally bad Idea.
No issues with making them part of the FW rewards system , but they should not be removed from the Research agents entirely.
A balance between the two , such as a higher cost from the current RP for the core , and a similar earned cost from the FW militia.
It is generally a bad idea to break things to where casual players have to decide if it is worth continuing. |
Caesar Rae
Legio VIII Augusta
0
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Posted - 2012.05.14 00:51:00 -
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SigmaPi wrote:Hormus wrote:Datacores is the main source of price difference between T2 BPO and T2 BPC manufactured items. If datacores get more expensive, ppl that manufacture with invention will have to increase prices - but those with T2 BPO's are not affected. So, the shamefull gap between T2 BPO owners and the rest manufacturers will get bigger. Bad move, CCP. That's a load of bull. The #1 price point is from the negative ME - that translates to a huge amount of waste on bpcs. The datacores are almost negligable in all cases to the price of the final product. I know - I do invention as my primary income.
If T2 BPO's operate the same way as T1 BPO's (unfortunately I have never seen one) then the first person is correct.
T2 BPO's do not have the issues with datacore costs or negative ME and PE from invention and thus any cost changes to datacores will make thier products cheaper to market. |
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Soldarius
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
218
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Posted - 2012.05.14 04:37:00 -
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EDIT: I borked my math. HerpDerp
Ok, so I went to SISi to try out some FW content. For 6 hours I ran 1 Outpost, 4 Major Outposts, and a Major Stronghold. From a zero start, I accumulated 140k LP in about 6 hours. Major Stronghold was a ***** in an AF. The others were easy enough. I'm confident that I could do that in half the time now that I know what they're like.
LP payouts for plexes are astonishingly high. I sense an implending flood of FW items into the market. This makes level 4 missions a joke. Orbit for 20 minutes in a frigate and get 25k LP. That's 1250 LP per rminute, or 100k LP per hour. At a good LP to isk conversion rate that comes to 100M isk per hour, not including tags. Or I could buy a ****-ton of datacores.
Make cloaks nonfunctional in FW plexes or this will be abused so badly it will break the FW item marketplace.
Next, I noted with some laughter that I could still dock in Gallente controlled stations. However, I could not use any of the station facilities. Still had access to my hangers. Rather pointless if you ask me.
I then asked a level 2 agent for a mission. His offer was 8 jumps away for a measly 1200LP and some petty cash. My response was "Are you ******* kidding me?" DECLINE.
Went back to farming LP and tags in my Rocket Hawk. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |
Bad Messenger
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
135
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Posted - 2012.05.14 09:18:00 -
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I did some FW plexing testing on sisi, it was bit buggy but it seems that Hans worst nightmare is coming with next expansion |
Mike Whiite
Progressive State State Section 9
45
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Posted - 2012.05.14 11:45:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:EDIT: I borked my math. HerpDerp
Make cloaks nonfunctional in FW plexes or this will be abused so badly it will break the FW item marketplace.
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While cloaked the timer doesn't countdown always been that way |
Roki Romani
Rokirith Inc Genx 7
0
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Posted - 2012.05.14 11:59:00 -
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My poorly thought out idea for implementing diminishing returns:
Each faction has a fixed number of NPCs that it has to spread over its territory. The more territory a faction holds, the more thinly spread out defending NPCs are. |
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CCP Ytterbium
C C P C C P Alliance
564
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Posted - 2012.05.14 13:33:00 -
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Quick update:
- Mechanical Engineering datacore offer have been added to all FW LP stores
- Graviton Physics datacore offer has been moved from the Amarr to the Caldari FW LP store
- Hydromagnetic Physics offer has been moved from Caldari to the Minmatar FW LP store
After listening to player feedback, main reason for such change was to keep a relatively balanced reward output for each faction, as Mechanical Engineering datacores are highly sought-after in their current form. |
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
944
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Posted - 2012.05.14 14:53:00 -
[376] - Quote
Which still doesn't address the issue of "WTF do the non-racial datacores have to do with Faction Warfare".
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lukozz
TunDraGon
0
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Posted - 2012.05.14 15:27:00 -
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When this patch comes Which date |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
970
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Posted - 2012.05.14 15:51:00 -
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lukozz wrote:When this patch comes Which date Inferno. May 22. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins Amarr 7th Fleet
1
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Posted - 2012.05.14 16:53:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:EDIT: I borked my math. HerpDerp
Ok, so I went to SISi to try out some FW content. For 6 hours I ran 1 Outpost, 4 Major Outposts, and a Major Stronghold. From a zero start, I accumulated 140k LP in about 6 hours. Major Stronghold was a ***** in an AF. The others were easy enough. I'm confident that I could do that in half the time now that I know what they're like.
LP payouts for plexes are astonishingly high. I sense an implending flood of FW items into the market. This makes level 4 missions a joke. Orbit for 20 minutes in a frigate and get 25k LP. That's 1250 LP per rminute, or 100k LP per hour. At a good LP to isk conversion rate that comes to 100M isk per hour, not including tags. Or I could buy a ****-ton of datacores.
Make cloaks nonfunctional in FW plexes or this will be abused so badly it will break the FW item marketplace.
Next, I noted with some laughter that I could still dock in Gallente controlled stations. However, I could not use any of the station facilities. Still had access to my hangers. Rather pointless if you ask me.
I then asked a level 2 agent for a mission. His offer was 8 jumps away for a measly 1200LP and some petty cash. My response was "Are you ******* kidding me?" DECLINE.
Went back to farming LP and tags in my Rocket Hawk.
A lot of us can finish a L4 mission that pays 35k LP in less than 5minutes. (Not counting travel.) Once I converted 1 mil LP at the rate of 7000 ISK/LP. I would like to hear your numbers again, especially "per hour". |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
417
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Posted - 2012.05.14 17:00:00 -
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Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Soldarius wrote:EDIT: I borked my math. HerpDerp
Ok, so I went to SISi to try out some FW content. For 6 hours I ran 1 Outpost, 4 Major Outposts, and a Major Stronghold. From a zero start, I accumulated 140k LP in about 6 hours. Major Stronghold was a ***** in an AF. The others were easy enough. I'm confident that I could do that in half the time now that I know what they're like.
LP payouts for plexes are astonishingly high. I sense an implending flood of FW items into the market. This makes level 4 missions a joke. Orbit for 20 minutes in a frigate and get 25k LP. That's 1250 LP per rminute, or 100k LP per hour. At a good LP to isk conversion rate that comes to 100M isk per hour, not including tags. Or I could buy a ****-ton of datacores.
Make cloaks nonfunctional in FW plexes or this will be abused so badly it will break the FW item marketplace.
Next, I noted with some laughter that I could still dock in Gallente controlled stations. However, I could not use any of the station facilities. Still had access to my hangers. Rather pointless if you ask me.
I then asked a level 2 agent for a mission. His offer was 8 jumps away for a measly 1200LP and some petty cash. My response was "Are you ******* kidding me?" DECLINE.
Went back to farming LP and tags in my Rocket Hawk. A lot of us can finish a L4 mission that pays 35k LP in less than 5minutes. (Not counting travel.) Once I converted 1 mil LP at the rate of 7000 ISK/LP. I would like to hear your numbers again, especially "per hour".
If all of the missions will go only to a hostile system the larger side can just pick a system to leave to the enemy. They will likely pick a ssytem next to their best agent so there will be no travel time. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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XOr Brasil
Quantum Cats Syndicate Villore Accords
1
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Posted - 2012.05.14 17:41:00 -
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So PVP LPs are gonna be split between the fleet members of whoever get the killing blow instead of being based on the involved parties on the KM? So, if said Machariel worth 100k LPs is being killed by 10 ppl in a fleet, but the killing blow is done by a third party who decided to ***** on the KM and only took a shot at it while passing by but happenned to get a lucky killing shot, he'll be awarded all the LPs and the other players would get none, regardless of damage distribution?
I understand that dividing for fleet members has a nice touch to include logi pilots on the LP bounty prizes without requiring them to fit a non-logi module (and this is nice!), but I'd be seriously p****d if I lost the LPs for said fight just because the killing blow wasn't on my fleet. Why not do the sharing between all fleets that show on the KM, instead of only the killing blow?
I know KM whoring is gonna be a problem with LP payouts, but I'd rather lose 50% of the LPs for an "almost solo kill" than 100% of it! |
Rimase
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
27
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Posted - 2012.05.15 11:49:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1086098#post1086098
Rimase wrote:Let's destroy the Trade Capital! Militia being able to discourage trade at 'trade capitals' I suspect Militia may bring about plundering markets, changing economies where players have to relocate their goods for nominal value. Sounds oh-so cool making trade capitals fall and spreading players around the universe to different markets. Trade capitals are well-known, and so the human mind is to interact with others. Where there's more people there is more fun: Jita 4-4 has 1000+ occupants. How would war effect market?Solarsystem market taxes can immediately become so high to financially support local battles. This turns station's 'civilian market' into military support, supporting resupply of war's finances and services. Basically, when war is around the stations and planets within solarsystem become 'militarized'. an additional layer of tax is placed for each station's sovereign identity, and this credit is converted to Loyalty Points (FW) and Standings (Corp & Faction). The whole purpose to bring down 'trade capitals' and have players make either a profitable decision or a investment decision. The profitable decision is to go elsewhere. The investment decision is to support the station's faction to victory. This questions Faction warfare gameplay (new)For this to begin, the impending war must prompt all locals. This is done by Militia defiantly persevering a Constellation into 'peak activity', from which then a whole Constellation becomes a war siren. This tells Militia players where the battle is at to greater focus combat activity with auto-activated Military-class Cynosural Field Generators (NPC) and shake-up the local market. Those NPC Military-class Cynosural Field Generators are well-guarded opened by your sovereignty, are hacked by the enemy Militia to use and, most interestingly, hacked by Incursion invaders. Sansha's Nation could decidedly pour-blast through a disengaged Constellation alert in attempt to resolve and punish inactivity. How would this work, exactly? There may be a limit of active 'alerts' in Constellations like there are only a few Sansha's Nation Incursions. This denies covering the whole universe with Constellation alerts. This Constellation-wide alert gives stations if ever managed by one single capsuleer or corporation the option to have it support local warfare ('Militarized station' where Militia are resupplied and respawn freely). However, this makes that player a Militia target until the local Constellation becomes safe. How are Constellation war alerts triggered?? Most highest warfare activity within Constellation's solarsystems. Station conversions (two types):- Civilized Station - normal; solarsystem(s) (small) or constellation (big) do not give Militia free services.
- Militarized Station - applied additional heavy taxing to fund free services for Militia in Constellation.
What are the bonuses of 'militarized stations'?- Militia are supported with additional 'respawn locations' using Templar-grade Clones like those of DUST players & Fanfest trailer.
:: "Imagine the military application!" :: "The power they would have. They would be--" :: "Immortal."
- Militia are supported of station's finances and services, bringing Militia-class (T1 Improved) ship-loss reimbursements and and free services, whilst funding and servicing local 'Garrison Outposts'. This keeps Militia capsuleers incentives in correspondent to the responsible risks they've chosen and accepted.
- Any player using the station, paying the 'militia tax' will increase Standings (Corp & Faction) and Loyalty Points (FW) to them.
- They deny enemy docking the station even sometime after local Constellation faction warfare has ended.
What are the consequences of 'militarized stations'? Impose an additional, unavoidable 'militia tax' on players sub-sequently placing market orders, selling, buying, using services. This does not exempt Militia corporations. This is the instigation of this post: Militia can destroy player-selected 'trade capitals'! This disproves trade hubs and spreads players across the universe particularly away from Jita 4-4. - (Why CCP no improve Shareholding?): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=71032#post71032 |
Aebe Amraen
Logolepsy
13
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Posted - 2012.05.16 00:55:00 -
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I don't know if this has been asked already, but I read through all the Dev posts and didn't see an answer, so... can we get some details about how the market value will be calculated? Does it take all market transactions in all region into account, or just e.g. Jita? How fast will it react to changes in market value like the recent 40% increase in battleship costs--is it a daily average (reacts instantly), weekly average, monthly average?
Thanks! |
Ken Kyoukan
2
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Posted - 2012.05.16 13:56:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Quick update:
- Mechanical Engineering datacore offer have been added to all FW LP stores
- Graviton Physics datacore offer has been moved from the Amarr to the Caldari FW LP store
- Hydromagnetic Physics offer has been moved from Caldari to the Minmatar FW LP store
After listening to player feedback, main reason for such change was to keep a relatively balanced reward output for each faction, as Mechanical Engineering datacores are highly sought-after in their current form. Will these datacores still require the skillbooks to be trained to collect them or will you be removing those? Note: The Hydromagnetic Physics skill is currently a prerequisite of the Ice Processing skill. |
Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
41
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Posted - 2012.05.16 15:33:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Hey people, here are some answers for you. * DO YOU CONSIDER DIMINISHING RETURNS FOR TAKING SPACE? Yes, as mentioned in the Dev Blog, we will possibly consider some ways of make it more difficult for one side to just take everything with ease - we could for example increase VPs to take additional systems, or use NPCs to assist an outmatched faction. Again, nothing is set in stone as this stage as we want to iterate on FW next release as well. * WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF TAKING SOVEREIGNTY? At the moment the Sovereignty changes are quite cosmetic sadly. However in the long run, we would really like Sovereignty to actually have an implication on the solar system as a whole (police / navy NPCs, stations, sentry guns etc...). That's the whole point after all, your faction conquered enemy space, and to the victor goes the spoils. * NO CHANGES TO FACTION NAVY / NPCS? Not for now, we ran out of time for Inferno. But we really want to have a look at the various NPCs next release. We will start with FW complex NPCs, then possibly have a look at mission and navy NPCs as well. We would like to redirect you to this thread if you want to help us fix them. * COMPLEX CAPTURE AND I-HUB STORED LP: you should still get LPs from capturing a complex even if the I-hub in the solar system has none. You get no LP for defending though. The way it works is: you gain 10,000 LPs from a minor site, 5,000 are taken from the enemy I-hub, if it had any LP stored in the first place. * LP STORE PRICE FLUCTUATION IS HUGE, THIS IS MADNESS! We do realize a 16x multiplier to be quite high, which is why we will keep looking at this situation and change it if need be. * DO YOU PLAN TO TWEAK LP STORE OFFERS? Yes, although not sure when, we definitely want to tweak this, make sure each separate faction has a different and interesting LP store in the first place. That includes revamping existing offers and creating new ones. * WHAT ABOUT CYNO JAMMERS? The idea was postponed after the feedback we received at Fanfest / forums. It's not out though, but initial discussions showed us that if there is one feature we need to carefully tread with, it's that one as it impacts a -lot- of third party players as well. * ARE FW COMPLEXES GOING TO BE LOOKED AT? Yes, we want to iterate at them, by changing the NPCs, and possibly restricting pirate ships from entering the small ones (pirate as in Dramiel, Cynabal ships, not pirate players ). The power gap between pirate and tech 1 hulls is just too great for a feature that is supposed to be friendly to new / casual players. However, we would still want navy ships to be able to go in, since you get them from the FW LP stores, it would promote a good incentive to spend LPs there. * THE DATACORES, IT'S OVER 9000?! Good point regarding mechanical engineering datacores, we will most likely spread this type out to all factions before release. Regarding the change itself, we will not actively adjust the RP amounts you have prior or after release. Which means players cashing in datacores that were worth 150 RP for 100 RP after release will get an advantage. Since the field multipliers are being removed, this change also means players will receive them slower, for 100 and 150 RP fields. But, since all of them now require 100 RP to be exchanged, it will be pretty balanced in the long run. R&D skills will unfortunately not be reimbursed as this profession is not going away - it will most likely be looked into and changed into a more active state separately in the future not to abandon players that invested time and effort into it. * WHO DROPS THE INFRASTRUCTURE HUB? No one; it is the nothing more than the old NPC control bunker that is being renamed, and as such, doesn't require logistic effort from anyone to be placed. There is also no need to remove all the LP out of it before it can be captured; all LP will automatically be wiped out when captured by the enemy faction. * ARE THERE ANY REWARDS FOR PODDING SOMEONE? Not at the moment * DO YOU GUYS PLAN TO ITERATE ON SYSTEM UPGRADES? Yes, as stated in the blog, we acknowledge current upgrades can be improved by a fair margin - we already received feedback and ideas coming from the CSM / community, and we would like to redirect you to this thread if you have suggestions. * DO YOU HAVE PLANS ON IMPROVING THE LP STORE INTERFACE? Oh yes, my precious, we do yes, we do. We absolutely despise its terrible, horrible current state. * WILL GALLENTE PILOTS BE REWARDED FOR CAPTURING AMARR PLEXES AND VICE-VERSA: yes, allied factions have been thought of, thus, a Gallente pilot capturing an Amarr FW complex, or a Caldari pilot capturing a Minmatar complex will get paid in their respective militia LP store for instance. Please note allied factions aren't paid for capturing Infrastructure Hubs however, as they can't shoot it in the first place. Hope that helps!
Thanks for the detailed and direct update, however I am left a bit confused by: "WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF TAKING SOVEREIGNTY? At the moment the Sovereignty changes are quite cosmetic sadly. However in the long run, we would really like Sovereignty to actually have an implication on the solar system as a whole (police / navy NPCs, stations, sentry guns etc...). That's the whole point after all, your faction conquered enemy space, and to the victor goes the spoils."
So.... capturing systems is NOT going to deny enemy faction from docking at stations or better yet deny using the services but allow them to dock? |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
2364
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Posted - 2012.05.16 19:20:00 -
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Niko Lorenzio wrote: So.... capturing systems is NOT going to deny enemy faction from docking at stations or better yet deny using the services but allow them to dock?
Docking restrictions are in full effect on SiSi at the moment (Try it! It really sucks if you don't own space.) and will be implemented with Inferno on May 22.
I'm pretty sure Ytterbium's talking about adding station fire and NPC's on top of the lockout mechanism, which is the first step they are taking to make Sov mean something.
If it "breaks the game" somehow, they're open to adjusting it. But as of right now its something everyone will have to adapt around till we see how it affects the warzone. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Vanessa Vansen
Cybermana
36
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Posted - 2012.05.16 22:12:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Quick update:
- Mechanical Engineering datacore offer have been added to all FW LP stores
- Graviton Physics datacore offer has been moved from the Amarr to the Caldari FW LP store
- Hydromagnetic Physics offer has been moved from Caldari to the Minmatar FW LP store
After listening to player feedback, main reason for such change was to keep a relatively balanced reward output for each faction, as Mechanical Engineering datacores are highly sought-after in their current form.
Still crap ... why FW LP stores and not R&D corp LP stores? FW LP stores have nothing to do with R&D! |
Segana Tulanari
Most Deep Inside Miss Moneypenny
0
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Posted - 2012.05.18 11:48:00 -
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So, waht can we expect after this patch?
- Where can we buy the datacores? Only at FW LP stores? Or at RD-agent bases as it was before too? How do I pay with my research points at the FW LP store? Have I to exchange RP into LP? How?
- What the blog writer wanna tell us with the table (Faction, RP Points, kind of datacores)? Is there a simple way to give a table a name (what the table shows us?)? Is the table for FW LP oder R&D or what ever?
- What happens with the RP during the patch for 50 and 150 RP/datacores? Will they transformed to the new prices (double the 50 RPs and divide the 150 RP by 1,5) by the patch? Or do I have to get the 50 RP datacores before the patch to be fine?
It was unusual for CCP, that a dev blog leaves so simple questions unanswered. You can it better ;)
regards, Sega |
Maru Sha
The Department of Justice
0
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:18:00 -
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Vanessa Vansen wrote:Still crap ... why FW LP stores and not R&D corp LP stores? FW LP stores have nothing to do with R&D!
Agreed. From a game master point of view - I understand that a passive datacore income is not what is intended to be, but - there is no obvious reason why datacores as part of R&D should become part of factional warfare - and why something belonging to the profession of R&D does not need any skill from this section to acquire it (datacore) because anybody can access it through the LP store - and if at all why not putting those datacores in the LP store of NPC corps with R&D activities (either they have player accessible R&D agents or a clear corp description to be R&D focused), even though I still think R&D related skills should be somehow a requirement to access them.
CCP Ytterbium wrote: While our current intention is to turn datacore gathering into more of an active profession than it currently is, we will be following feedback closely to make sure players that invested time into Research corporations are not abandoned, most likely by making further changes to them in the next release.
Why don't you wait with the whole datacore business until you have a real and overall solution for it, instead of implementing something which you "most likely" don't even know how "further changes" will look like.
Other than that I'm looking forward to the factional warfare changes and hope we can return to the fun times we had in the first months of FW. |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
424
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Posted - 2012.05.18 14:01:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Niko Lorenzio wrote: So.... capturing systems is NOT going to deny enemy faction from docking at stations or better yet deny using the services but allow them to dock?
Docking restrictions are in full effect on SiSi at the moment (Try it! It really sucks if you don't own space.) and will be implemented with Inferno on May 22. I'm pretty sure Ytterbium's talking about adding station fire and NPC's on top of the lockout mechanism, which is the first step they are taking to make Sov mean something. If it "breaks the game" somehow, they're open to adjusting it. But as of right now its something everyone will have to adapt around till we see how it affects the warzone.
Breaks the game for whom? For casual pvpers or for those who prefer null sec strategies applied to faction war?
Also are they going to fix the plexing bug before inferno launches? Or are the minmatar going to be able to roll into inferno with a huge advantage that was due in part to exploits? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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