If you're carrying 100,000,000 ISK in loot, the EV of the drop is 50 mil ISK, and the person killing you gets 10,000 LP from it. If you were trying to abuse it, you'd be hard pressed to make more than 50 mil ISK off of 10k LP.

Petrus, you forgot to take the dropped items into account.

By destroying a ship with 100m on cargohold you get 10k LP plus about 50m in loot. Turning these 10k LP into more than 50m may be hard right now, but after the changes are implemented it isn't clear to me that this is not possible.

That's why I mentioned that you should be payed only for what you really destroy.

I must be missing what the driver for conflict is? It seemed like rewarding the winning side so heavily simply ensures that the best profit will be had by having everyone join the same faction... what am I missing?

Hay can someone in FW answer a question for me? If you kill a guy on your own FW team, do you get an LP hit? Does it hurt the standing of your char towards the faction you are enlisted with? Do you get a criminal flag? Can you get kicked out of your malitia?

You get GCC'd and lose a whole ton of standings.

No-one is using research agents because they "give a free income stream". The threshold to gain access to those agents is too high, the "free" profit too little.

Ok, I can understanding linking Datacores to the LP store...but why the Factional Warfare LP store!? I don't see the connection. Unless the goal it to force more players into FW ...

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Militia "grunts" gathering research data from an LP store in a contested system?

Not sure what game you are playing but in EVE-Online that is exactly why people use research agents. In fact most people have research agents because you could easily fund an account through PLEX on datacores alone. Those days are long gone but all those people kept those accounts or just reactivate them one month per year to gain passive income.

You might use research agents to fund your personal t2 invention or whatever but I know people with huge datacore farms of many accounts and they gain a lot of passive income for little work. This is the majority of people using research agents. No amount of whining will change this fact.

Now you have to either interact with other people (gasp) or pvp in FW (double gasp) to gain lucrative items. Interaction and pvp in my EVE? Sounds cool.

It's actually quite clever. What you are doing is gathering field data and testing new equipment, thus enabling research. More seriously, the "it makes no sense" argument makes a superficially correct point, but considering that Eve's manufacturing system is already heavily dissociated (information does not get used up in the manufacturing process; why manufacturers have to keep re-inventing the same hulls and equipment? etc...), I don't see how it really matters.

I think it's better because it makes each of militia stores more unique. though I do agree restricting mechanical engineering to the TLF store is a poor choice.

"You want to do research, fine? The best way is to go kill people." I can see how that would play out to a potential scientist. So, are you really telling industrialist to join fw or just creating an interdependence without any real justification?

Overhaul datacore mining some other way. Get datacores out of FW. It doesn't make sense fluff wise or mechanic wise. You just got done telling people you're not going to let them shoot npcs to build things (drone nerf)...then you tell them you are going to make them shoot npcs to build things (fw overhaul). All you did was change the position in the production chain.

We-¦re definitely keeping an eye on this development. As mentioned, this team will continue looking at FW after Inferno with the priority being 1: make changes to what we just shipped (potentially to ME datacores) and then 2: improving FW even more with new changes.

If something doesn-¦t end up the way we like it, they-¦ll change it. Once it-¦s in a place where everything is how we want it to be, they-¦ll move on and do more new FW features.

Winter is going to be pretty sweet.

Really great changes, overall.

I was happy to see the idea of "diminishing returns" being mentioned in the blog. However, one major difference between FW and null sec should be incentives to join the losing side.

Basically imagine a pendulum swinging. As it swings more in once direction the acceleration pushing it in the other direction increases. In this case that acceleration is rewards for killing the winning side and retaking objectives. This will help keep the fight going... And that is really the point of FW. The last thing we want is a scenario where one faction "wins" and there is no reason, and more importantly no reward worth the risk of fighting back.

I hope this explanation is clear enough for you to get an overall idea of what I mean.