Look what you did Durrr, you made Fozzie mad! Now he is going to hold out on rebalancing the cruisers for two years. Good job. Good job.

Fozzie, you have no officially gone on the record saying that you will fix cruisers by Winter ;-)

I know, I know, I have issues and should see a therapist about my trolling issues.

* Capture beacon location: first, we want to move the capture beacon closer to the room entrance (0-10km instead of 60-70km) to promote fights next to the acceleration gate exit point and being able to intercept incoming hostiles more easily.

The problem was, that you could hardly intercept someone in a site, because you had to use the acceleration gate and once you dropped he saw you 90km away and just warped out. It prevented PvP, simple as that.

let me summarize that:

- you are in a low-security system and you know that everyone there can and probably will try to kill you
- you are in a ship not equipped for PvP
- you are in a public available position and know that anyone can warp to you any second
- you refuse to hit the scanner frequently even when probably hostile players enter the local

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And you still want the environment protecting your while making money? Seriously?

Note: 99% if all people who are "ganked" while doing PvE made a lot of mistakes previously that lead to the outcome. If FW should be mainly about PvP, the environment should not prevent it.

you "see" your "enemy" in local at least a minute before he comes into your plex?
you then "see" him on dscan if you are not too lazy to do the click once you have hostiles in local
and then you "see" him entering your grid which gives you about 10 more seconds to decide if you want to fight or run - more than enough for a frigate to warp out, even for a cruiser of you care to pre-align once you "see enemies" in local.

still not enough? pfffff....

You don't get it.

Plexing should not be a game of gank the pver. You are applying the pirate versus carebear dynamic to the wrong part of eve. We have enough of that already in eve.

I go in plexes where there are enemies. That way it increases the chance of a fight. I just want some distance from the warp in, case there is a blob.


The other mechanics like notifications and timer rollback are the mechanic changes that make plexing a pvp mechanic without making it a silly gank the pver game.

My message to CCP is to have rats spawn in the plexes according to who's inside - I don't know yet whether this is technically feasible or not, but I'm heavily encouraging it. What is needed here is that if I'm running a defensive plex, There are Amarr attacker spawns entering periodically. If I'm running an offensive plex, there are amarr defender spawns entering periodically.

The devil will be in the AI / aggro / programming, but this should be the absolute design goal to strive for if at all technically feasible. The last thing I want to see is the farming issue moved to D-plexing but not eliminated entirely.

I go in plexes where there are enemies. That way it increases the chance of a fight. I just want some distance from the warp in, case there is a blob.

Changes seem fine, but I guess my only concern is with the need now to kill the NPC's at sites won't this drive faction standing down so low that it will be quite painful to grind it back up when/if they leave faction warfare? I think that may be a fairly big negative to those contemplating FW if that's the case.

Increase contested range: at the moment an hostile pilot will only contest a capture timer if he is within capture range (whose reach varies depending on the point above). We want to move the contested area to the whole complex range, which would mean as long as hostile pilot is within your room the capture timer would be paused.

Assuming "whole complex range" means "on grid with the complex" you'll be able to cause a lot of delay and be almost untouchable with some grid fu and a fast ship. Unless complex grids somehow aren't as stretchable as regular grids.

* Increase contested range: at the moment an hostile pilot will only contest a capture timer if he is within capture range (whose reach varies depending on the point above). We want to move the contested area to the whole complex range, which would mean as long as hostile pilot is within your room the capture timer would be paused.

* Complex size and name changes: current complex sizes are confusing as some major sites have no acceleration gates, while others do. Plan is to revamp sites to 4 sizes: rookie (only tech 1 frigates allowed, no navy, pirate or tech 2 variant), small (all small ships, including navy, pirate and tech 2 variants - essentially all frigates and destroyers), medium (all cruisers, including navy, pirate and tech 2 variants - battlecruiser variants are not allowed) and large (unrestricted access).

I really like the low dps, fast NPCs with active repping idea.

Please clarify the following.



A "tie" goes to the faster ships that may have no incentive to engage. Super fast defender will sit on button aligned away. When opponent comes in he'll burn away and pick at targets, or just keep at range until the opponent gets bored. What is really a "win" for the attacker (they control the plex) turns into a loss (fast defender can grief with no risk). The advantage to the fast defender increases with capture range size.

Perhaps the capture timer range was originally set based on projected effective range of the ships that would enter the plex.

Unless they are going to be able to compete with hacs its hard to see what place they will have in faction war.

These faction plex restriction changes seem like a big boost to t2 industry.

So far I LOVE everything about this but this:

a) If the pilot goes "off grid" are they still considered in the plex zone? (To prevent an enemy player from just burning away in a 8k/s dramiel forever.

b) System defence is possible with a super nano ship that runs forever with offgrid boost. Mix this with the grid mechanics and it can get a little exploitable in the sense that defence is no longer pvp but "run around and around and around until the opponent gets bored".

You mean, unless they can compete with the vagabond and zealot, only?