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Teh Minez0r
Legion of Mars
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Posted - 2012.11.12 11:51:00 -
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Well, that's the reply I got from the bug hunter team after the bug report:
Quote:Thank you for your bugreport titled: System freeze on combat or map
We are already aware of this problem, and have added your bugreport to the existing issue in our defect tracking system.
At least they admit that there's a bug. |
Anakin Katana
Amarr Wardens
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Posted - 2012.11.12 18:59:00 -
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I have the same issue, and filled a bug report :
Mostly dual boxing with dual screen and when i set a course with auto-pilot and open galaxy map.. after a few seconds everything freeze.
Some shogun2 players have the same issue with HD7xxx cards.
And many users using socket 1155 socket are not impacted (personnaly i've the issue with old good socket 1156 and first generation i7 + Asus HD7970 DC2T-3GD5).
I found something in shogun2 forum we may try :
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Symptom:
During gameplay the system will hard lock *and* there's a repeating audio sound in the speakers. The only solution is to power cycle the machine.
Cause:
GPU Halt. Per what I read, this is due to the 7970 being PCIe 3.0 and that AMD was very aggressive with the internal power management of the GPU -- especially with PCIe 2.0 buses.
Fix:
Open RegEdt32
Modify HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Class\{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0000\PP_GPUPowerDownEnabled
Set this to "0" instead of "1"
To be continued :) |
Teh Minez0r
Legion of Mars
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Posted - 2012.11.13 09:01:00 -
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Not sure but if this is the same setting as disabling ULPS, it's unfortunately not working afaik. Though, this wouldn't explain the lock ups on ivy bridge setups which are pcie gen 3 capable. On Asus ROG forums I've seen a post of some1 got a reply of an AMD guy telling him that there's an incompatibility between cross-/tri/quadfire setups and X58/X79 chipsets. Wouldn't be surprised if single card setups are affected aswell since the symptoms (hard lock up, buzzing sound) were the same as we run into.
Anyway. gl with the fix and plz tell us, if it works or not. :) |
Teh Minez0r
Legion of Mars
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Posted - 2012.11.14 10:11:00 -
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Out of curiosity, I just flashed a different bios to my 7970 (there's an official GHz bios of AMD for reference design cards floating around and since my card was standing it easily, I thought I'd give it a try).
Well, first flash wet wrong for some reason so I had to google a bit. Luckily my card got a dual bios (afaik NOT all 7970 cards got it although it should be in reference design already, so if you think about flashing this yourself, MAKE SURE YOU GOT DUAL BIOS BEFORE BRICKIN YOUR CARD!!!), so I just had to switch to the untouched bios. Two flashes later (first got borked again but just ran it a second time without rebooting), it completed.
What I can say yet is:
I used Furmark for stability testing (passed)
open/closed map in eve ~40-50 times (no crash, needs further testing)
and last but not least (my all time lock up) - I've warped to 5 cosmic anomalies and killed the pirates (no crash, needs further testing)
I don't call it stable yet, will need some more testing.
What I figured out yet is that the card still clocks down while running eve with two differences:
1. the GPU clock only went down to 501MHz now / before 300MHz (coded into bios)
2. the vram clock NEVER went down / before 150MHz (always running 1500, also coded into bios)
Well, I'll tell ya more (good news hopefully) soon. |
Iron Drake
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.16 20:21:00 -
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I found this article :
http://www.behardware.com/news/lire/27-10-2012/
It describes problems with the ATI 7870 cards from wrong capacitors in some cases. I ask the author about clarify the symptoms. He answered: "Yes with the issue I described there is a sound loop and the reset button is not responding. However these symptoms could also lead to other issues related to the graphics card." |
Teh Minez0r
Legion of Mars
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Posted - 2012.11.17 07:03:00 -
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Iron Drake wrote:I found this article : http://www.behardware.com/news/lire/27-10-2012/It describes problems with the ATI 7870 cards from wrong capacitors in some cases. I ask the author about clarify the symptoms. He answered: "Yes with the issue I described there is a sound loop and the reset button is not responding. However these symptoms could also lead to other issues related to the graphics card."
yeah but he also states "the system crashes and they get a black screen (loss of video signal)."
But at least in my case it just frozes and I hear the buzzing sound loop. Also, my reset button works but that probably depends on the PSU aswell since mine disconnects the power for ~2 seconds which is no real reset (but that's a Seasonic thing). |
Sycotic Deninard
Polaris Breach Corp
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:13:00 -
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Im using an nVidia card (GTX 570) and im experiencing the same issue so I dont think its restricted to AMD video cards. Its something on Eves end and I started experiencing this issue after the last patch. |
Teh Minez0r
Legion of Mars
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Posted - 2012.11.19 15:58:00 -
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Sycotic Deninard wrote:Im using an nVidia card (GTX 570) and im experiencing the same issue so I dont think its restricted to AMD video cards. Its something on Eves end and I started experiencing this issue after the last patch.
What chipset you running/which CPU socket? 1366/2011 aswell? |
Virgo I'Platonicus
Tea Time Mining
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Posted - 2012.11.19 22:27:00 -
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Same problem.
Just bought an AMD HD7850 a month ago to use with my old rig - i7 920 on ga-ex58-ud5.
Complete system freeze in map mode, but also at completely random times. The first day I had it twice in 5 minutes, now 3 days nothing even though i'm using the map heavily. I run single client only. Though I did dust the computer just in case there was some heat build up or other nasty surprises.
However the card is cool as ever ~ 50-¦C during play.
Also this is the only game that freezes the comp... and I tried hard to do it with other games.
Bug report sent.
o/ |
Oscar99
Duct Tape Mechanics
4
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Posted - 2012.11.20 00:33:00 -
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I have also just upgraded to a 7850 2gb card & i'm having problems opening the map, PC will hard lock - same symptoms as OP.
I also have this problem in Shogun 2, see my thread on it here: http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/51616-Sound-Crashing-in-Campaign-Mode
shame really, my 5770 is alot better than this - had no problems with EVE whatsoever using that. |
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Teh Minez0r
Legion of Mars
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Posted - 2012.11.20 08:25:00 -
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Well, it's defo not a cooling problem, my 7970 is running on water, I had to use Furmark to get the GPU to 50-¦, voltage regulators are around 45-¦.
What I want to know is if there's any1 who used a 7000 series card without having issues first (prolly early in this year when they got available) and got affected later after an eve patch or a driver upgrade. |
Saber Coombs
The Illuminatii
Mildly Intoxicated
1
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Posted - 2012.11.20 08:38:00 -
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Teh Minez0r wrote:Well, it's defo not a cooling problem, my 7970 is running on water, I had to use Furmark to get the GPU to 50-¦, voltage regulators are around 45-¦.
What I want to know is if there's any1 who used a 7000 series card without having issues first (prolly early in this year when they got available) and got affected later after an eve patch or a driver upgrade.
The problem fist appeared around march, I think it was, when they released a patch with updated graphics for the star map, before that there were no problems. The problem was first only with the star map, but it spread to combat with the missile graphics patch. Leaving the "gpu particles" graphic option off seems to help with combat crashes, but star map is still unusable regardless of graphical options. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.20 21:19:00 -
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Did you guys tried to set your GPU fan speed manually? (spikes for whatever reason may be opening card/missile trails or large fleets can cause huge heat in a limited amount of time)
From everything I read about this issue it looks exactly the same stuff I had with my previous 4870x2, the fan and/or his controller couldn't or didn't or drivers were too poor to instantly adapt to the amount of heat, was worst when the temperature could go up from 75 to 130-¦C.
The only way to prevent this for me was to DL GURU and use it to spot heat spikes while using my whatever software at the moment and then fix manually the base speed accordingly to how many clients I had open.
With 1 client had to fix it a t 45% and 2 at 60% but had no issues other than polygons etc but due to ATi usual uber drivers.
Test it out, it can't hurt if you do it carefully. |
Teh Minez0r
Legion of Mars
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Posted - 2012.11.20 22:07:00 -
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That makes it a CCP problem then obviously.
Well, since mine was watercooled, i've set the fan speed to 0 manually. And if you are wondering, why I used the past - my 7970 just died this morning without any warning, it's not even recognized by the system anymore.
That solved my problem hopefully, since I already bought a gtx 670 (don't want to wait for the rma card and the knowledge that it won't work anyway in eve). |
Sycotic Deninard
Polaris Breach Corp
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Posted - 2012.11.21 00:29:00 -
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Teh Minez0r wrote:Sycotic Deninard wrote:Im using an nVidia card (GTX 570) and im experiencing the same issue so I dont think its restricted to AMD video cards. Its something on Eves end and I started experiencing this issue after the last patch. What chipset you running/which CPU socket? 1366/2011 aswell?
Im running Intel Core -i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core processor in a Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 Motherboard |
Teh Minez0r
Legion of Mars
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Posted - 2012.11.21 14:04:00 -
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That's interesting as your specs completely differ from what are known to cause trouble.
What programs are you ppl running in the background? Anti-Virus I guess at least (I'm using the MS Security Essentials myself). |
Sycotic Deninard
Polaris Breach Corp
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Posted - 2012.11.22 02:28:00 -
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Teh Minez0r wrote:That's interesting as your specs completely differ from what are known to cause trouble.
What programs are you ppl running in the background? Anti-Virus I guess at least (I'm using the MS Security Essentials myself).
edit: and one more hardware question - to you ppl use a hdd or a ssd? In my case, eve is installed on a hdd, to be exact running on a raid 5 based on an lsi hw raid controller. But the settings and cache folder is based on my ssd since eve creates the path in the user tree. any1?
MS Security Essentials
Both SSD and HDD
OS- on the SSD
Game and Swap file on the HDD
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Teh Minez0r
Legion of Mars
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Posted - 2012.11.24 10:12:00 -
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So same setup as I use, although I got the swap file on the ssd aswell. |
Cpt Bogus
Whimsical Mining Refining and Exploration
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Posted - 2012.11.25 00:14:00 -
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I'm having similar issues, but since I'm Bogus my issues are far more awesome than just my new graphics card crashing. My system periodically crashes after installing a 7770 GHz a couple of days ago with the same symptoms as everyone else. Lowering Eve's graphics settings, if anything, made the problem worse as it went from only happening when probing with the system map open to happening randomly in station when not doing anything. My particular manifestation is alternating horizontal lines that looks something like this.
http://bogus.wswarren.com/img/7770-crash.png
However, the card also has another issue which I also had with a 6670, which is what I call Dr. Timothy Leary mode. When alt-tabbing or frapsing the client displays wild rainbow colors which can be recorded (and indeed, anything I fraps is a video version of this).
http://bogus.wswarren.com/img/7770-leary-mode.png
The 6670 also had some random, non fatal but truly glorious artifacting the first time someone fired a missile in an Eve session--basically the system renders a big striped square in space.
http://bogus.wswarren.com/img/6670-1.jpg
http://bogus.wswarren.com/img/6670-2.jpg (this is zoomed out...so basically it renders it ingame like this)
Tried a number of games this afternoon--Crysis, Skyrim, MWO beta--and am unable to replicate the crash or the weird fraps colors in anything but Eve. Lobbed an issue on the AMD support forum but so far the folks there have been rather less than helpful. At this point I'm not sure what the next move is, I like my hardware to be efficient and I don't see why I should be forced to go with an nVidia card that uses 50% more juice because of a single game not behaving but with AMD and CCP pointing the finger at each other and the former backing off driver support for XP I'll likely get a 650Ti in someone's holiday weekend sale. Hopefully if I do it won't overheat while rendering Windows like the last nVidia product I bought did. Between the two of them I have had enough issues to last quite a few more years and I just don't have the patience to play card doctor again. Man, I miss 3dfx.
System profile:
CPU: i5 2500k LGA1155
GPUs: Sapphire Radeon 7770 / XFX Radeon 6670
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z77-DS3H bios revision F3
RAM: 4GB Corsair
OS: Windows XP SP3 32-bit |
Shock Star
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.26 05:05:00 -
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Bump....
Still waiting for a solution.....
Any Dev's with an input??? |
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Teh Minez0r
Legion of Mars
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Posted - 2012.11.26 13:29:00 -
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Cpt Bogus wrote:I'm having similar issues, but since I'm Bogus my issues are far more awesome than just my new graphics card crashing. My system periodically crashes after installing a 7770 GHz a couple of days ago with the same symptoms as everyone else. Lowering Eve's graphics settings, if anything, made the problem worse as it went from only happening when probing with the system map open to happening randomly in station when not doing anything. My particular manifestation is alternating horizontal lines that looks something like this. http://bogus.wswarren.com/img/7770-crash.pngHowever, the card also has another issue which I also had with a 6670, which is what I call Dr. Timothy Leary mode. When alt-tabbing or frapsing the client displays wild rainbow colors which can be recorded (and indeed, anything I fraps is a video version of this). http://bogus.wswarren.com/img/7770-leary-mode.pngThe 6670 also had some random, non fatal but truly glorious artifacting the first time someone fired a missile in an Eve session--basically the system renders a big striped square in space. http://bogus.wswarren.com/img/6670-1.jpghttp://bogus.wswarren.com/img/6670-2.jpg (this is zoomed out...so basically it renders it ingame like this) Tried a number of games this afternoon--Crysis, Skyrim, MWO beta--and am unable to replicate the crash or the weird fraps colors in anything but Eve. Lobbed an issue on the AMD support forum but so far the folks there have been rather less than helpful. At this point I'm not sure what the next move is, I like my hardware to be efficient and I don't see why I should be forced to go with an nVidia card that uses 50% more juice because of a single game not behaving but with AMD and CCP pointing the finger at each other and the former backing off driver support for XP I'll likely get a 650Ti in someone's holiday weekend sale. Hopefully if I do it won't overheat while rendering Windows like the last nVidia product I bought did. Between the two of them I have had enough issues to last quite a few more years and I just don't have the patience to play card doctor again. Man, I miss 3dfx. System profile: CPU: i5 2500k LGA1155 GPUs: Sapphire Radeon 7770 / XFX Radeon 6670 Motherboard: Gigabyte Z77-DS3H bios revision F3 RAM: 4GB Corsair OS: Windows XP SP3 32-bit
Dunno but yours look more like a hardware bug, although it's weird that you can't replicate the issue. What happens if you are running Haven benchmark or Furmark with maxed out settings? |
Cpt Bogus
Whimsical Mining Refining and Exploration
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Posted - 2012.11.29 00:36:00 -
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Heaven runs fine, as does every game I have other than Eve. I'm just going to return the card, since two AMD/ATI cards from different generations have both had various issues it's clear the arrangement isn't working out. |
Haydan Olney
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.11.29 11:14:00 -
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Bump for a DECENT dev reply....
clearly this issue is unresolved...
How about an update?
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Bunny13004
Primal Fury
The East India Co.
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Posted - 2012.11.29 16:45:00 -
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MY PC freezes when i open the star map (have to reset from the tower), probe map is fine, everything else is fine....
I can pretty much guarantee a system crash though when opening the star map, so i dont open it. Been playing EVE alot of years and had no issues with my HD 5 series. Im going NVidia next time, thought ATI had the edge, but i cant use the star map>.<
Ive had this issue ever since buying the 7770HD
Ive seen these explanations about flash etc and i'm not OCing anything, system is stable with every other program so i dunno what it is. Any advice is appreciated.
Also ive rolled my ATI drivers back and forward, no joy
Im running:
Windows 7 64
Gigabyte M52LT-D3
AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 630 Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz
XFX ATI Radeon 7770 HD 1GHz 1GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI Core
ASUS Xonar DG Audio Device
I hope my post will help resolve this problem and if there's any sort of report i can submit, then let me know and i will.
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Tyrone Cashmoney
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.30 09:12:00 -
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I've had similar issues to most everyone that posted in this thread since upgrading from a Radeon HD 3400. My computer will lock up, with no response from the mouse or keyboard (numlock won't work), and the only thing left to do is a hard reset. I did so many things to try and resolve the issue I can hardly list them all. They include completely uninstalling EVE (including the documents folder, everything), uninstalling/reinstalling drivers, installing beta drivers, turning graphic settings all the way down (especially HDR, antialiasing, and the various effects), and so on.
It kind of annoys me because there's no 100% certain way to recreate the issue, and it just never happens in other games that I play (World of Tanks, The Witcher 2, Vindictus, XCOM, etc...) regardless of how long I play them. The nearest I've come to reliably reproducing the problem is warping to anomalies and killing rat after rat, within 5 to 20 minutes I'll usually get a lock up. I've had my PC lock up while the map was open, but there's also lots of times where I had the map open with no issues. I've been in large fleet battles with literally hundreds of ships onscreen and brackets turned on, and the PC wouldn't lock up.
My current specs:
Windows 7 64-bit
Gigabyte M68M-S2P
AMD Athlon II X3 425
4 GB DDR2-SDRAM
XFX Radeon HD 7750
There's probably something to the various mentions of certain GPU / CPU socket / chipset combinations causing problems. The motherboard is a tad old and the 7750 seems to be one of the very few Radeon HD 7XXX cards it can handle. |
Bashius
Capital Gents
Persona Non Gratis
0
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Posted - 2012.11.30 22:10:00 -
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I really don't believe this to be an issue at CCP's end. X58/X79 users are reporting 7xxx series crashes in shogun and several other games (usually with crossfire running). Eve and Shogun seem to be especially fragile to this x58-7xxx incompatibility.
If you haven't already fill out:
AMD Bug reporting Catalyst 12.10
I've been trying every beta driver as they come. The latest 12.11 promised a lot of new code for 7xxx's and 12.11beta8 seemed to increase my stability on the star map. I'll quantify that statement..
My rig (x58 and 7870) only crashes in the star map, or when running a second client, or when using VLC and Eve at the same time.
Today I was able to browse around in the star map with no issue while running HD video in VLC on monitor#2. PC only locked up when I opened a 2nd eve client.
Hoping 12.11beta8 is just a sign of things to come.. going to hang onto this card a while longer before I betray my ATI loyalty.
I'm also keeping a close eye on these other threads:
Shogun Thread
Asus Rog Thread <-- vague promises 2nd hand from AMD that this issue is a 'top priority'
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Unholythrash Davaham
Bio Troll
0
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Posted - 2012.12.01 09:52:00 -
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I also have this problem x58 board 7950 card. I have the 12.11 beta drivers and it does help some, I can browse starmap a little as long as i am stationary. I just bit the bullet and bought a new board/processor so hopefully this fix's it. I feel naked in a wormhole without an alt or 2 active. |
General Roji
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.01 20:34:00 -
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Getting this problem aswell only I don't run more than 1 client and it's happens at random times in the game. Nothing specific makes it trigger, just triggers after some time (usually 3-4 hours).
Core i7 950
AMD 7950
Windows 7 64 bit
If this is actually an issue with x58/7xxx compatibility than mine will be fixed here in a few weeks when I upgrade to Ivy Bridge. |
Complex Potential
No Fixed Abode
Mildly Sober
28
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Posted - 2012.12.03 13:46:00 -
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I'm running the HD 6870X2 which is essentially 2 6870s in Crossfire.
Windows 7 64Bit
Core i7
6GB DDR3
I don't run two accounts but I have noticed that whenever I alt-tab back to desktop or shut the game down I'll often experience a momentary freeze before Windows recovers. This is always accompanied by a message saying that the graphics driver stopped working but was recovered.
I have not experienced the kind of freezes described in this thread but I only run a single account. |
Complex Potential
No Fixed Abode
Mildly Sober
28
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Posted - 2012.12.03 13:54:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:
about that star map... and docking, and jumping through gates, and starting the login screen-- they're all complete graphics changes
it might be causing the card to throttle itself to 2D mode or back to 3D mode and this is too much of a jump for the drivers and their control of the voltage
This actually reminds me of an issue I had on my old 4870X2 where I could not play the original Borderlands due to the 2D/3D power savings. Borderlands' cell shaded graphics confused the drivers and meant it wouldn't switch into 3D mode when it was supposed to and just ground to a halt. |
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