The issue dicsussed in this thread is not an overheat issue, it's a bug in either the AMD drivers or the EVE client. CCP seems to claim the problem is on the AMD end, and I have a fair guess what AMD's stance is...

fix this now ccp!

are you dumb?
Still havent got its a driver issue and not eve's?
Computers freezing in other occasions too, not just eve.


their stance can be whatever, fact is THEIR hardware is locking up in some occasions not just for eve, so if its not the hardware iteself which is broken then there is last only possible instance to be blamed - hardware driver. Beyond that its never responsibility of application software to ensure hardware stability nowadays, its already for decades this way since microsoft and OpenGL finally established hardware abstraction layers. Get that finally, learn that its basics.

Drivers are always busted somehow and the perfect driver that works with every possible hardware configuration and every possible piece of software will never exist, period.

and its still the responsibility of the vendor to ensure drivers stability, noone else

and its still the responsibility of the vendor to ensure drivers stability, noone else

I can't only blame ATI on this one as none of my other games neither crash nor lock up the whole system.

other games i play work fine

Anyway, that's ***ing ridiculous that there's obviously still no fix for this problem yet.

And it's the game developers responsibility to use the drivers in a correct way.

Bla, bla, bla

then you're lucky you dont play games which DO lock up with ATIs. Fact is its is NOT only eve having issues. Had lockups with Tribes Ascend too, so its at least another one.

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Anyway, that's ***ing ridiculous that there's obviously still no fix for this problem yet.

So i rolled back my Ati video drivers to 12.4 from my manufacturer Gigabyte for my 7970 and so far so good.. though too soon to tell..

will update this if all goes well.. or doesn't go well



But the whole problem originally started with an Eve update.. not a video card drivers update

The problem with the 7970 card total lockup, only happen on an i7 socket 1366 or 2011 system, 1156 and 1155 is fine.
When it happen the VDDC voltage on the GPU drop to 0,5V and it freeze, when testing with an Radeon 6970 the VDDC never drop when playing. And when testing the 7970 card on an AM3 Phenom system, there is no issues and the VDDC is stable as well.
There is not any log or anything when this happen, as the system total lockup. I have not tested 12.6 beta and 12.7 beta so don't know if they work.

I'am not using the card anymore, but I was able to replicate the problem in other games as well. Shogun Total War 2 was the best at crashing, with high setting it only last 5-10 sec before total lockup.
I got my money back for my Radeon 7970 card, so can't do any testing on it anymore, the shop I bought it from was able to replicate the crash, with 3 Radeon 7970 of different brand and on both a Asus and Gigabyte socket 2011 motherboard.

Hey guys I have been playing TERA for 2 days and I had the same problem about random pc black out = "crash"
not to desktop crash but PC crash that only hard reboot work... so
I tried all the methods that was posted about updating drivers and etc..also tried the visual memory method but nothing solved the problem.

Now my solution is simple It may look stupid but It's really gonna work for these symptoms..

1- Start - control panel
2- Hardware and sound
3-Power options
4-Balanced - change plan settings
5- Put "turn off the display" to NEVER
and "put the computer to sleep" to NEVER.and don't forget to save changes.

that's it ... enjoy

The game was working fine, CCP released a patch, game stopped working. You arguing technical details is just silly.

Nope. Since CCP and Blizzard (WoW) use their own engine, I won't blame AMD for this cuz obviously the engines break the systems and not the driver. And I got like 200 games on steam, tested with around 50 and there's no problem with any of it.

Interesting post here on tera-europe forums:

I was aware of this attempted fix and it does not work for my machine. I am one of the 7970 users and I have the unfortunately i7 920 CPU/socket combination.

For me...the easiest way to check to see if the issue is resolved is to open the star map. At BEST I've had about 5 seconds before my machine completely locks up and requires a hard reboot. Matter of fact I was theory crafting about not having sufficient power on my own, but the mentioned solution, to set "put computer to sleep: Never" does not work.

I'm still in a 'wait and see' mode to see if the newer set of drivers will address the issue. Honestly I'd just like to see AMD acknowledge that there is a serious issue, CCP already has and they're doing what they can on their side to see it addressed as well.

For the hell of it I've enabled Graphics OVerdrive in the catalyst CC and bumped the power control settings to 10% to see if that makes a difference. I'll edit the post to see if I get to reboot in a bit.

Edit, 1105 AM CDT: Logged in, hit F10, map loaded in a second, tried to move the mouse and the hanging midi of doom struck. Complete system freeze requiring a reboot.

I've done the works, submitted issue to CCP and AMD per the links earlier in the thread and the in game bug report...all i can do is wait since I don't feel like dropping another 500 bucks on a top of the line Nvidia card atm.

Happy hunting to all those who can play the game!

"I dont care about facts how things work, just want to rant"


yeah I tested like all of my 4375 games and at least half of them crashed with ATI. All legit.


here we go. Its probably CCPs fault I guess other games freezing too in the same manner. You guys fail at understanding basics

I've never written that I checked like 4k games, I told you what I know about the games I'm playing from time to time beside eve

"I dont care about facts how things work, just want to rant"

ATI should fix the driver but they dont give a f*ck because you still buy their cr*p.

Pretty funny, since you keep ignoring the most obvious fact.

And I still can't see that you have proven in any way that it's AMD's fault, could also be a **** up in Intel's chipset(s) (driver)... But - go on fanboy...

yeah maybe its intels chipset drivers fault no idea, certainly its not CCPs fault.