Yes. Because D3 is an abysmal failure and no-one is playing it.

And before that it was skyrim.

No, before that, the numbers were quite nice and had recovered from Skyrim.

Please don't look at players on-line the week of a 12 years in waiting sequel

But yes if look at the graph of players online things are dropping

but i think that has nothing to do with any nullsec power bloc

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Five thousand 300 million isk Hulks dead and all the victims just bounced back happy as ever...........right...

Eve is dieing again? Again!?!?!? Why wont it stay dead!

Answers! I want answers. The person responsible for this travesty should be hung up by their toes so we can throw lime jello molds at them. Beat them is limp spaghetti noodles I say!

Whos with me!?!?!?


/me crawls back under rock

Five thousand 300 million isk Hulks dead and all the victims just bounced back happy as ever...........right...

Im not saying ban griefing, just saying put yourself into a miner's shoes, many hulks have 200mil rigs, so 500 mil down the drain by a little tek 1 ship, who's gonna be hurrying back to play

Who in their right mind puts T2 rigs on a Hulk?




... oh, right.

You only just noticed this? We actually killed EVE a while back. At this point we're basically just involved in a Weekend at Bernie's style conga line with it's grinning corpse.

again, the stats speak for themselves.

Five thousand 300 million isk Hulks dead and all the victims just bounced back happy as ever...........right...

Im not saying ban griefing, just saying put yourself into a miner's shoes, many hulks have 200mil rigs, so 500 mil down the drain by a little tek 1 ship, who's gonna be hurrying back to play

Five thousand 300 million isk Hulks dead and all the victims just bounced back happy as ever...........right...

Im not saying ban griefing, just saying put yourself into a miner's shoes, many hulks have 200mil rigs, so 500 mil down the drain by a little tek 1 ship, who's gonna be hurrying back to play

Five thousand 300 million isk Hulks dead and all the victims just bounced back happy as ever...........right...

again, the stats speak for themselves.

I bet those T2 rigs were not for tank.

Five thousand 300 million isk Hulks dead and all the victims just bounced back happy as ever...........right...

Im not saying ban griefing, just saying put yourself into a miner's shoes, many hulks have 200mil rigs, so 500 mil down the drain by a little tek 1 ship, who's gonna be hurrying back to play

Yes. Because D3 is an abysmal failure and no-one is playing it.

Nothing will help the "wet paperbag" hulk against a couple of alpha strikers, we all know that.

You're right, D3 got a mighty 3.8 outta 10 user rating.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/diablo-iii

Nothing will help the "wet paperbag" hulk against a couple of alpha strikers, we all know that.

19,000 online now?

Half of these are probably the most die-hard EVE players, having 5-6 accounts average. The other half are bots. You're basically playing with maybe 1000 humans, 900 of whom are AFK.

This doesn't even take into account the padding that CCP does.

Ban all Hulkageddoners would solve this issue?

Huh, well...

Seriously.. why would I pay for a game that I can't play for a whole month during the year... because if I try to play in the way I would prefer too.. I will only die, and be worse of than not playing at all?

I'd love to do the level 4 epic arcs in an untanked Megathron with a full rack of magstabs. But if I try to play in the way I prefer, I will only die. I guess the only alternative is to not do the level 4 epic arcs.

Edit : And unsub with my 47 accounts of course.

Nothing will help the "wet paperbag" hulk against a couple of alpha strikers, we all know that.

Are you saying that if I can't mine.. I should do some other activity?.. My point was.. I PREFER to mine.. its (usually) a relatively peacefull.. slow but profitable activity.. I mine in Hi-Sec.. 0.7 space, I do everything to try to be safe.. and still.. some teenager comes along and blows my ship out from under me. What I mean to say.. is that, for true "Carebear" play style players like me.. we are only punished, as things stand now.. I feel there should be a place in the game for all playstyles.. and making it impossilble (or uneconomical) to gank miners in high sec.. would solve this problem.

I'm a lilttle tired of the attitude of derision that people who don't PvP are subjected to in the game, its so narrow minded.

Greetings capsuleer,

Derision? I did not see any. Apart perhaps from your near constant references to teenagers, children and so forth as if some fool would entrust a ship worth a million ISK to a juvenile capsuleer? What madness!

If you feel derision though, t would be because you are behaving like a bleating sheep.

"I would prefer"
"My way"
"I can't"

Come now.

Why should your choices be enforced on other capsuleers? Pirates will always attack vulnerable, valuable targets even in high security space. Exercise your options to defeat them, just as they are exercising their options to blow your ship to space dust. Imagine the satisfaction when you have managed to turn the tables on them ...

You are a god. An immortal capsuleers striding amongst the stars. Man up. Live like one.

Regards,

Shian Yang

Dear Capsuleer,

He has an eternity. He wants an eternity of mining. We were happy to allow this. He clarified he wanted an eternity of mining peacefully.

Negotiations had to be broken off at that point.


With a T2 Catalyst alt,

~Ala

what Im proposing is that we make high sec space (say 0.7 and up) a much more expensive ganking field

lol.. I dont have the power to enforce anything on anyone, but neither should you :)

Lol.. Alavaria... at least you were able to communicate your point with humour... and Shian.. I'm not trying to enforce my opinion on anyone.. nore am I bleating.. merely trying to communicate the frustrations of a Carebear style player, to an unbalanced inequity. Fancy words aside.. there are plenty of areas where miners can be ganked if they want to risk the better mineral deposits.. what Im proposing is that we make high sec space (say 0.7 and up) a much more expensive ganking field. You could still gank, if that's what you choose to do.. it will just cost you more than you stand to make. That way, there is room for a miner/high sec playstyle. I dont mind being ganked occasionally.. it's being constantly killed and unable to earn enough to cover the costs.. which is turning me away from this otherwise interesting game.

Shian.. "why should my choice be enforced on other players"... lol.. I dont have the power to enforce anything on anyone, but neither should you :)

Correlation does not imply causation.

This.

Other incidents I recognized that correlated with the number of EVE players the last days:
- number of muffins I have eaten over the day (positive correlation)
- number of times Madonna is mentioned in the news (negative correlation)
- number of times I have spilled coffee over the keyboard (strong negative correlation)

Further research is needed to show which of those are not only correlated, but actually are the cause for the number of EVE players.

I'm down with that proposal. Limit mining ships in .7 and higher Sec systems to those that cannot be economically ganked when T2 fit. That leaves... Rokhs, and... well Rokhs really. Without some sort of making CONCORD read people's minds, this is the only way to make your proposal happen.

There you go, ganking in your "Gank-Free Haven" Space is now unprofitable. You can still mine, if that's what you choose to do... it will just cost you some yield to do it. That way, there's room for a reason to mine in normal High Sec.

Anyway, 1.0 Space has a fast Concord Spawn and probably will keep you safe from Catalyst ganks (the most profitable kind) if you tank your Hulk (this means Buffer, not Active, and fit a dang DCII).

Eve is dieing again? Again!?!?!? Why wont it stay dead!

Spanning Dscan for 4-5 hours has got to be one of the most silly activities, I'd like the gankers to try it and if you enjoy it, you must be lying.]

Spanning Dscan for 4-5 hours has got to be one of the most silly activities, I'd like the gankers to try it and if you enjoy it, you must be lying.

If you have to fit warp core stabs which decreases you target range, keep aligned at all times, tank your hulk bla blah blah, you mining yield is so lo its not worth the effort (and the effort is HUGE, what with spamming dscan for 5 hours LOL )

I'm just saying, the griefers would do much better going after bots, if not, you'll just lose thousands of players to the game, who have much better things to do than right click continuously for 5 hours

(It makes me laugh when griefers expect miners to do that, when the griefers themselves know, that that has to be one of the dumbest activities not only in Eve, but in life in general )

the stats speak for themselves.

Indeed they do. Just look at these stats:

Last days in the work week = statistically have the lowest population online.
Days after one of the most anticipated game releases in the last five years = statistically have the lowest population online.
Spring lull in anticipation of a new patch = statistically lowers the population online.
Hulkageddon = statistically lowers the population a bit in the first couple of days.

GǪso yeah, the stats speak for themselves and what they're saying is that the goons are a pretty insignificant factor.

Its worth it in WHs where you can make hundreds of millions per hour mining, in hisec you make a fraction of that, obviously you havent mined in Hisec during Hulkageddon, who would with the lo returns and all that Dscanning lol

then....why ARE you? I troll in the Recruitment channel daily (What up, fellow Recruitment trollers), and I see at least a dozen WH corps recruiting EVERY DAY.

And 2-3 dozen null sec corps recruiting in that same time span.

your excuse is.......???

I never said I mine in hisec, Im speaking up for those players who do, who couldn't be bothered logging in anymore cos of all the griefing, hence the abysmal server graph.

Name one part of this game which isn't a silly activity.

Lol.. Alavaria... at least you were able to communicate your point with humour... and Shian.. I'm not trying to enforce my opinion on anyone.. nore am I bleating.. merely trying to communicate the frustrations of a Carebear style player, to an unbalanced inequity. Fancy words aside.. there are plenty of areas where miners can be ganked if they want to risk the better mineral deposits.. what Im proposing is that we make high sec space (say 0.7 and up) a much more expensive ganking field. You could still gank, if that's what you choose to do.. it will just cost you more than you stand to make. That way, there is room for a miner/high sec playstyle. I dont mind being ganked occasionally.. it's being constantly killed and unable to earn enough to cover the costs.. which is turning me away from this otherwise interesting game.

Shian.. "why should my choice be enforced on other players"... lol.. I dont have the power to enforce anything on anyone, but neither should you :)

Yes. Because D3 is an abysmal failure and no-one is playing it.

Thankyou for a constructive and non-abusive contribution to this thread, Ruby. Least-ways.. that's how I'm taking it (it is kinda fun to make fun of people when they don't get that you are making fun of them.. almost like... ganking a defenseless miner in high sec ;)

3) Keep Aligned. If you wanna Jetcan/Orca mine, align and then stop once you're aligned. This just means you need to get up to speed to warp out.

A couple of years a go myself and a couple of corp mates decided to mine during Hulkageddon. Every barge or exhumer had a damage control and wasn't fit for maximum yield, the Orca I flew had webs in the mids to use on the barges and exhumers to help them get to warp quicker. We had a cloaked blackbird sat 30km off the small fleet, a heavily shield tanked Myrmidon that the hauler could swap into at a moments notice and the Orca was heavily tanked to take the brunt of the damage as the mining ships warped out.

We aligned to station in system, watched local and d-scan, sat in the Hulkageddon chat channel in case we heard the system we were in, or any nearby, mentioned and took note of a lot of the corps taking part and set them to -10 for the duration of our mining op so we'd see them in local should they appear.

After all that setting up we didn't see one single ganker, was a bit of a disappointment really. We weren't really interested in mining, just to see if we could prepare ourselves should we be made targets. That was more fun than just sitting there chewing rocks all day as mining makes me want to scratch my eyeballs out.

Spamming Dscan for 4-5 hours has got to be one of the most silly activities, I'd like the gankers to try it and if you enjoy it, you must be lying.

If you have to fit warp core stabs which decreases you target range, keep aligned at all times, tank your hulk bla blah blah, you mining yield is so lo its not worth the effort (and the effort is HUGE, what with spamming dscan for 5 hours LOL )

I'm just saying, the griefers would do much better going after bots, if not, you'll just lose thousands of players to the game, who have much better things to do than right click continuously for 5 hours

(It makes me laugh when griefers expect miners to do that, when the griefers themselves know, that that has to be one of the dumbest activities not only in Eve, but in life in general )

Solo and small gang PvPers spam dscan constantly while micromanaging their mods.
WH dwellers spam dscan constantly all the time.


If saving your Hulk isn't worth Dscanning, either accept that you'll lose it, find other precautions that will work (staying aligned at 75% speed, for one), don't mine during HAG, or find an activity where Dscanning is unnecessary* or worthwhile.

DScan is Left-Click, anyway.

Anyway, nobody expects miners to do that, since that would stop you from being able to scream "We're Defenseless" on the forums. These are options with a cost and a benefit; it is up to you where the balance lays on each option, but if you have defensive options you are, by definition, not defenseless.

*Hint: It's called a Rokh

what options would those be?

Please don't look at players on-line the week of a 12 years in waiting sequel

But yes if look at the graph of players online things are dropping

but i think that has nothing to do with any nullsec power bloc

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Engage friends. Mine in a group and rotate so some are flying either webbers or ships capable of an equal alpha strike. It might just be a deterrent.

Mine in a different location. New Eden is vast and you can find a dead system easily enough. In my regular haunts in low-sec there are areas where nobody will pop up for hours on local.

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Security Status, like 0.7, gives people the impression they are safe. They're not. All it means is that CONCORD will respond and punish the person that blew you up. The only person that can make you safe is yourself.

Regards,

Shian Yang

Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I

Greetings capsuleer Porto,

So, to conclude, we can say that Goons are not killing EVE. Natural selection and the culling of the herd is?

Regards,

Shian Yang

Spider Web your Hulks. It doesn't take long at all to warp out from 0 speed if you're quadruple webbed. Just pay attention to your overview (which is properly set up and not cluttered with roids, right?). Or heck, mine aligned while moving at 75% of 9m/s.

Just be sure to fleet warp so nobody gets stuck.


[Hulk, Hisec Mininh]

Modulated Strip Miner II
Modulated Strip Miner II
Modulated Strip Miner II

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Mining Laser Upgrade II
Damage Control II

Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Jita burn, Hulkageddon V etc etc etc

17th of may, server didn't break 37 thousand online, never have I seen that before since started playing about 3 years ago.

We live in interesting event horizons

Yup. My 4 Accounts are cancelled. This new one still has a week left of Trial and the paid month before going quiet.

Have spoken with 3 others who are quitting multi-accounts after over 3 years of playing. And those players were all in my home system. I'm sure there are others.

It's just too much trouble to actually have any real fun anymore.

The game has been utterly rebranded into only one Method of Fun. It's a sandbox, but the steering wheel is fixed (by Goons) and the speed is regulated by a governor (CCP).

I need a new highway..................

Really ?
Using your own link I see lots of times over the past year where the server population never hit 37,000.

Nice you don't have to be able to outrun your predator, you just have to be able to get into warp faster than the gang down the belt , I like it

It's a sandbox, but the steering wheel is fixed (by Goons) and the speed is regulated by a governor (CCP).

I need a new highway..................

Yup. My 4 Accounts are cancelled. This new one still has a week left of Trial and the paid month before going quiet.

Have spoken with 3 others who are quitting multi-accounts after over 3 years of playing. And those players were all in my home system. I'm sure there are others.

It's just too much trouble to actually have any real fun anymore.

The game has been utterly rebranded into only one Method of Fun. It's a sandbox, but the steering wheel is fixed (by Goons) and the speed is regulated by a governor (CCP).

I need a new highway..................

One with slower speeds? Because that is what miners are asking for, right?

(By the way, unless sandboxes have changed quite a bit since I was a kid, I think you may be mixing metaphors there.)

Every single one of these things have happened in previous years and the player count has been much higher then, so yeah, stats speak volumes.

EvE Online

Circling the drain since 2003

Fun to only mine highsec with 4 accounts in EVE is it?

One with slower speeds? Because that is what miners are asking for, right?

(By the way, unless sandboxes have changed quite a bit since I was a kid, I think you may be mixing metaphors there.)

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Jita burn, Hulkageddon V etc etc etc

17th of may, server didn't break 37 thousand online, never have I seen that before since started playing about 3 years ago.

We live in interesting event horizons

If you think goons are killing Eve why don't you quit whining and join a nullsec alliance that hates goons. (there are quite a few)

It is the inaction of non-goons that goons are killing EVE.

Don't blame goons for what they are doing.
Blame yourself for not doing anything against them.


Not that I don't like goons. They're cool. But seriously, less yappin', more zappin' would be healthy for everyone.

Its a sandbox, the Goons are the "arch enemy", unlike other crappy games, we have a real enemy, not some lame NPCs with scripted AI you can learn watching a YouTube vid.


It's a good thing.

Goons have nothing to do with this.

And before that it was skyrim.

A restaurant I worked in around 10 years ago, that was a weekly ritual. "We are dead because it's a long weekend" "We are dead because something is going on over town" We always had an excuse. Right up until they closed the doors we had excuses. We knew better, we also knew there really wasn't much we could do about it.

No, I don't think EVE will be shut down in a year but misery loves company and stagnation breeds misery. Sorry, CCP I have no magic rainbow. If I come up with something I will share.

Ah. The fresh Spring-like scent of Delusion and Denial.

Ah. The fresh Spring-like scent of Delusion and Denial.

Respectfully, Takseen.. I don't understand your point?.....

Are you saying that if I can't mine.. I should do some other activity?.. My point was.. I PREFER to mine.. its (usually) a relatively peacefull.. slow but profitable activity.. I mine in Hi-Sec.. 0.7 space, I do everything to try to be safe.. and still.. some teenager comes along and blows my ship out from under me. What I mean to say.. is that, for true "Carebear" play style players like me.. we are only punished, as things stand now.. I feel there should be a place in the game for all playstyles.. and making it impossilble (or uneconomical) to gank miners in high sec.. would solve this problem.

I'm a lilttle tired of the attitude of derision that people who don't PvP are subjected to in the game, its so narrow minded.

Im a player of Eve for about a year and 1/2 now. Most of my income has come from mining.. nothting fancy, hours of work to earn enough to buy my first hulk.. followed by more hours of work. Im not into PvP, more because my lifestyle cant support the time it takes to hunt cooperatively with a group of others. I have lost 2 hulks now, to dirt cheap (in comparison) PvP ships.

I just wanted to say, I don't get it.. I really dont understand what fun or challenge there is, to destroy a mining ship. It seems such a selfish, ego driven, and teenage - rage thing to do. I understand of course, its for the ISK earning... but even so.. it seems so short sighted a way to play.

Don't the PvPers think that if the kill too many miners.. they themselves will have to go back to mining, to make up for the shortfall?.. Perhaps that's what it is.. control enough of the Market.. and you stand to make more of a profit.

I know that pretty much anything goes, in Eve.. I understand that, I signed up for it.. at least initially... all I can say is that contrary to many PvPers belief's ... as a miner, I cant afford to keep loosing mining ships, so I'm seriously considering quitting Eve.. and I know from all the posts I've been reading.. Im not the only one.

Seriously.. why would I pay for a game that I can't play for a whole month during the year... because if I try to play in the way I would prefer too.. I will only die, and be worse of than not playing at all? Hulkaggedon is just a big, idiotic and short sighted childhood bully-fest.

And a single visit to Hulkageddon V: Unholy Unions web page will reveal them for the silly children they are:

http://hulkageddon5.machine9.net/

Haven't read the entire thread but...

3 out 5 of my accounts are inactive because all i use them for is mining ...

I'm not saying goons are killing EVE but they sure are costing it subs...

Spoken like someone who hasn't got a clue. I think there's one goon in the top 10 of hulkageddon altogether.

Only people killing EvE are the people complaining about goons and other large organised entities.

in general people are giving goon fare to much credit. They didnt break it steel it or kill it, they are just doing what hundreds before them have done.

Manipulate the markets...... Nothing new
Hulkageddon...going for five year's....nothing new
Forming a super blob alliance.......nothing new

What is affecting EVE in general is the overall negative attitude a large percentage of players have. Everyone is pissed off about something. Be it high sec miners hating tankers, low sect hating high sec etc etc etc

So in the work off CCP.... Everything is fine and our logs show nothing.
Because nothing has changed bar the size of the mittanis ego

Yes, the player counts have also been higher, but not while those things have been happening. The pattern is the same as always, and the only thing the stats say with any volume is that the goons are a pretty insignificant factor.

Sorry mate just to correct you but even if there is only one Goon in the top 10. This is a Goon event which they are bank rolling, and I haven't really seen any other large entities being winged about apart from CCP.

I would hope the guy your quoting would also have a clue as to why his own accounts are inactive.

Try harder next time.

Cheers

Tal

I remember a long time ago there was this other PVP game called Darkfall. Players there complained that two alliances called Hyperion Kingdom and of course another alliance lead by Goons were destroying the game with their mega zerg tactics and bullying etc etc.

After a good 6 months of fighting and (though I loath to admit it) superior goon political manuevering, the Hyperion alliance was destroyed and the Goons got bored shortly thereafter and petered out to play other games. The player base of that game dropped from 10,000 or more to less than a few thousand in the span on a few months.

The moral of the story is that people routinely complain about the bad guys that make their life hell in an online game. Unfortunately, PVP based MMO's require bad guys as much as they require good guys. Without them, EVE players would die of boredom and this would be another in a long line of failed MMO's.

Don't get me wrong. I disagree with the Goons as an organization and I especially dislike the tactics that they use to accomplish some of their goals. You can't be assured that your contract with them will result in a payoff or a knife in back. Maybe some of that randomization appeals to others, it's just not for me.

I will however, recognize that Goons for better or worse bring a certain flavor to the game that help keep it alive. The goons provide a realistically mutually hated opponent that gives other players a reason to exist and rally again. They dare to do things that most corporations won't do simply because they push the bounds of what EVE players can do.

If you remove the Goons and people of their kind, EVE will become a more boring and stagnate place where absolutely nothing of interest will happen on a daily basis. Some of their actions and the actions of other famous trouble makers such as the black hand will live in infamy forever and draw players to an otherwise unknown game.

Sorry mate just to correct you but even if there is only one Goon in the top 10. This is a Goon event which they are bank rolling, and I haven't really seen any other large entities being winged about apart from CCP.

I would hope the guy your quoting would also have a clue as to why his own accounts are inactive.

Try harder next time.

Cheers

Tal

Try getting a clue yourself, the Goons aren't 'bankrolling' this event, they have donated prizes as many other have and the publicity for it was coupled with that of Burn Jita. Only those with their head stuck in the sand seem to believe this is a Goon run event.

You really don't do the arguments made here any favours by appearing to be so utterly clueless and whiney.

Its worth it in WHs where you can make hundreds of millions per hour mining, in hisec you make a fraction of that, obviously you havent mined in Hisec during Hulkageddon, who would with the lo returns and all that Dscanning lol

Ok corrected on the Goon front, but you don't do anyone any favours by being such a p*ick about about it.

Tal

Try getting a clue yourself, the Goons aren't 'bankrolling' this event, they have donated prizes as many other have and the publicity for it was coupled with that of Burn Jita. Only those with their head stuck in the sand seem to believe this is a Goon run event.

You really don't do the arguments made here any favours by appearing to be so utterly clueless and whiney.

Yeah and supposedly Helicity is a goon alt even though Hulkageddon has been run four times before without any "bankrolling."

he did me a favor by making me giggle at how hard he smacked you down

so i guess that isn't true either

he did me a favor by making me giggle at how hard he smacked you down

so i guess that isn't true either

Try getting a clue yourself, the Goons aren't 'bankrolling' this event, they have donated prizes as many other have and the publicity for it was coupled with that of Burn Jita. Only those with their head stuck in the sand seem to believe this is a Goon run event.

You really don't do the arguments made here any favours by appearing to be so utterly clueless and whiney.

Teddy Roosevelt suggested we "talk softly, but carry a big stick." All anyone needs if they're wanting to put Goonswarm in their (real or imagined) "place" is a big enough stick. Till that time comes...as they like to say...deal with it.

Teddy Roosevelt suggested we "talk softly, but carry a big stick." All anyone needs if they're wanting to put Goonswarm in their (real or imagined) "place" is a big enough stick. Till that time comes...as they like to say...deal with it.

The problem so far in Eve has been that all the people wanting to carry a big stick usually end up carrying a limp one about 90% of the time. I have yet to see one forums post calling for the destruction of the Goons result in anything substantial.

If you know others are donating ISK maybe you let us know who they are.

Actualy numpty I'll retract my retraction. Goons are mostly bank rolling this event. So climb back into your hole troll (see what I did there). I never claimed it was started or led by them , but it is definitely encouraged by them.

If you know others are donating ISK maybe you let us know who they are.

Looking at the tears tab on the above link, I'm not sure what ppl find funny about players leaving Eve, sad really.

Tal

Every single one of these things have happened in previous years and the player count has been much higher then, so yeah, stats speak volumes.

Are the Goons killing Eve? CCP should ban them! Are BoB killing Eve? Ban! Are GHSC killing Eve? Ban! Are m0o killing Eve? Ban!

From the earliest days of this game, all of which I have been around to witness, there have been mewling quims like the OP, trying to suggest that the current power du jour is bringing Eve to some fantastic and terrible doomsday. These lowly creatures, without an achievement to their names, hope to turn the tide of public opinion against their chosen anathema and rally CCP devs to mass-ban them.

No matter what happens, you will not get your wish.

+1 for stats being produced anally

Ugh, at least clean it up before you bring it into GD.

It's over. Eve is finished.

I'd just like to point out that somone just blew up my Retriever and it wasn't a Goon. Now I am a Sad Panda and I am going to have to uhh warp back to the station and go get my hulk I guess.....

Will someone write a eulogy for my poor Retriever?

Hulkageddon is the meteor which hit at the end of the cretaceous era. Result: Lots of dead dinosaurs leaving behind a robust, adaptable population of mammals.

But actually I don't think hulkageddon has much to do with anything. We're in a decline after the previous expansion peak, which is not unusual.

Maybe some miners are learning they can't safely run 8 hulks at once, and are cutting back to 4. If they pay with PLEX anyway, that's only an indirect hit on CCP's bottom line and doesn't represent a genuine drop in number of players.


No, they don't actually. Correlation does not imply causation.

Im a player of Eve for about a year and 1/2 now. Most of my income has come from mining.. nothting fancy, hours of work to earn enough to buy my first hulk.. followed by more hours of work. Im not into PvP, more because my lifestyle cant support the time it takes to hunt cooperatively with a group of others. I have lost 2 hulks now, to dirt cheap (in comparison) PvP ships.

I just wanted to say, I don't get it.. I really dont understand what fun or challenge there is, to destroy a mining ship. It seems such a selfish, ego driven, and teenage - rage thing to do. I understand of course, its for the ISK earning... but even so.. it seems so short sighted a way to play.

Seriously.. why would I pay for a game that I can't play for a whole month during the year... because if I try to play in the way I would prefer too.. I will only die, and be worse of than not playing at all? Hulkaggedon is just a big, idiotic and short sighted childhood bully-fest.

EvE caters to a very specific type of Player. Those who understand that in a Sandbox, the content comes from people building sandcastles and when two people want to build a sandcastle in the same place, the interaction between the players.

The people who quit because their interaction with another player went poorly for them are not the kind of players that EvE caters to. So we cheer when players stop playing a game that doesn't cater to them and find a game that does, saving them much heartache. We're humanitarians, really.

Yes. Because D3 is an abysmal failure and no-one is playing it.

LOL humanitarians, made me spit my coffee...

Tal

Who in their right mind puts T2 rigs on a Hulk?