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Zortono
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:17:00 -
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Edited by: Zortono on 18/07/2009 18:18:16 I have received several warnings from GMs that I will be banned if I keep repping a neutral POS.
In response I have sent in a couple petitions and two GMs(Orfeus and Kaliastra) have confirmed that this is a exploit.
When did this happen? This has been a valid game mechanic for a long time.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:21:00 -
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I am going to make the assumption that if you rep a pos you wont be flagged toward its WTs, making it kinda obvious why it isnt allowed. (And no idea when, who cares).
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moneyman11
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:22:00 -
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I had this same problem recently. I volunteered to help a mate rep his pos but was told its a exploit. I then asked a gm and it was confirmed wtf?
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Zortono
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: Zortono on 18/07/2009 18:22:51
Originally by: Furb Killer I am going to make the assumption that if you rep a pos you wont be flagged toward its WTs, making it kinda obvious why it isnt allowed. (And no idea when, who cares).
Incorrect
If you are repping a neutral POS you WILL be flagged towards the hostiles of the POS you are repping.
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Matt Simon
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:26:00 -
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Crappiest game mechanic ever
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Laurenya
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:41:00 -
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Is this policy applied to repping neutral ships?
It seems a rather hard policy to enforce, in any case.
Especially as it doesn't seem well documented. |
rValdez5987
Amarr Imperial Guard. Soldiers of Solitude
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Zortono Edited by: Zortono on 18/07/2009 18:22:51
Originally by: Furb Killer I am going to make the assumption that if you rep a pos you wont be flagged toward its WTs, making it kinda obvious why it isnt allowed. (And no idea when, who cares).
Incorrect
If you are repping a neutral POS you WILL be flagged towards the hostiles of the POS you are repping.
then why is it not allowed? |
Zortono
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: rValdez5987
Originally by: Zortono
Incorrect
If you are repping a neutral POS you WILL be flagged towards the hostiles of the POS you are repping.
then why is it not allowed?
Good question. When we found neutrals repping a hostile POS in hi-sec we snuck in and killed him since he was flagged as soon as the reps were activated.
Then we try to rep a neutral POS and get threatened with the Ban Hammer!
CCP Please explain this why this is an exploit.
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Mystical Dawn
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Matt Simon Crappiest game mechanic ever
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Chris Liath
Gallente Nex Exercitus Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:47:00 -
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IBTL
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. |
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rValdez5987
Amarr Imperial Guard. Soldiers of Solitude
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:49:00 -
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I'd like my ****ing question answered tbh. I know of many cases where such repping has occurred and ive never heard of this tbh |
Laurenya
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: rValdez5987 I'd like my ****ing question answered tbh. I know of many cases where such repping has occurred and ive never heard of this tbh
Yes, this is a fairly common practice. Are we going to see waves of bans sweeping through the ranks? |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:52:00 -
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At the risk of sounding negative on our otherwise positive forum, some of the GMs in the game have a reputation of being worthless sacks of excrement. Without a senior GMs confirmation I have a little trouble believing it is an exploit.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Zortono Edited by: Zortono on 18/07/2009 18:22:51
Originally by: Furb Killer I am going to make the assumption that if you rep a pos you wont be flagged toward its WTs, making it kinda obvious why it isnt allowed. (And no idea when, who cares).
Incorrect
If you are repping a neutral POS you WILL be flagged towards the hostiles of the POS you are repping.
Then it indeed doesnt make any sense.
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5pinDizzy
Amarr SMS Fleet Services
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:56:00 -
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The Ban stick is an intended game mechanic.
Unlike over 9000 other mechanics that the ban stick mechanic is there to regulate.
Example of the banstick game code.
If Ingame mechanics we dont like [ Then ] [ Banstick ] [ ElseIf Game mechanics we do like [ Then ] [ Logs show nothing ] ] End If
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Epegi Givo
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:58:00 -
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then in this case i demand that neutral RReppers on ships also get banned. ------------------------------------- My other alt is a Ferrari
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5pinDizzy
Amarr SMS Fleet Services
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Posted - 2009.07.18 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 18/07/2009 19:04:45
Originally by: Epegi Givo then in this case i demand that neutral RReppers on ships also get banned.
Agreed.
Including neutral remote repping station hugging carriers anywhere in the universe.
However I think it's the case of CCP only bullying people who use the POS repping exploit only, because there's too many people who use the neutral remote repping ships on other ships in wardecs to threaten to ban them all.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2009.07.18 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Epegi Givo then in this case i demand that neutral RReppers on ships also get banned.
…not that I think anyone would mind that. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Valverine
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Posted - 2009.07.18 19:00:00 -
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Umm my whole corps business plan is based on this game mechanic.
Corps with hi-sec research POSes that are being bullied by merc corps pay us to rep there POS. We have been doing this for years. WTF?@?!?!?! WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE BANNED NOW?
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Armoured C
Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.18 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Matt Simon Crappiest game mechanic ever
i know
who evented pos's
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.07.18 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Valverine Umm my whole corps business plan is based on this game mechanic.
Corps with hi-sec research POSes that are being bullied by merc corps pay us to rep there POS. We have been doing this for years. WTF?@?!?!?! WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE BANNED NOW?
while I have nothing against the model of rescuing POS from imminent destruction, repping neutral POS without getting flagged is bleh, as is repping neutrals and not getting flagged.
the problem here however is why it is a bannable offence if you get flagged? |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.07.18 19:27:00 -
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I just undocked and got 5, FIVE, separate warnings from GMs for doing so. Apparantly undocking is now a exploit and you have to stay docked at all times.
How am I now supposed to mine, CCP? -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Insa Rexion
Minmatar Ray of Matar Assembly
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Posted - 2009.07.18 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Insa Rexion on 18/07/2009 19:30:15 Playing Eve is an exploit and making isk is bannable, just STFU and pay CCP money. well mannered a**h***
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Cypherous
Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.07.18 19:33:00 -
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Sounds like a half assed misunderstood rulem CCP please clarify why this rule exists or retrain your GM's if its wrong :)
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Mioelnir
Minmatar Meltd0wn
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Posted - 2009.07.18 19:56:00 -
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That is the exploit announcement to the topic at hand:
http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=1491&tid=1
I destinctly remember that this was issued back then because the war-flag wasn't inherited by the repping neutrals. If that has indeed changed, as several posts in this thread suggest, I'd say we maybe need a policy change again.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.07.18 20:05:00 -
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It was only an exploit back in the day when RRing the POS didn't flag the reppers to the WTs. As soon as the flagging system was FIXED to allow WTs to kill the neutrals that RRed the POS, that ceased being an exploit and became "working as intended".
The GMs in question are in a desperate need of EVE mechanics remedial classes. Like just about a lot of other EVE GMs lately, sadly. That reminds me of the "bubbles should disable MWDs" GM, rofl.
EVE issues|Mining revamp|Build stuff|Make ISK |
SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2009.07.18 20:20:00 -
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And me of the "login traps are a legitimate tactic" GM. -SIG- The true meaning of CCP; Completely Crap Patches. But I don't care, I haz CHOCOLATE. :D |
el Sabor
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Posted - 2009.07.18 20:36:00 -
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Was helping some friends rep a POS to get it out of reinforced to save some time. Like a lot of PvP pilots I have the mailbox flash turned off, checked mail to find a few threats for the GMs. This is news to me, surely if you're flagged now it's just fair game?
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Cypherous
Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.07.18 20:39:00 -
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We really need to get a blue in here but its not easy to summon them >.<
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Sir Muffoon
Carried Hate
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Posted - 2009.07.18 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Cypherous We really need to get a blue in here but its not easy to summon them >.<
That's because they don't like committing themselves to serious things. |
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