Originally by: Sir Muffoon

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Originally by: Cypherous

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We really need to get a blue in here but its not easy to summon them >.<

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That's because they don't like committing themselves to serious things.

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Originally by: Akita T

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It was only an exploit back in the day when RRing the POS didn't flag the reppers to the WTs.
As soon as the flagging system was FIXED to allow WTs to kill the neutrals that RRed the POS, that ceased being an exploit and became "working as intended".

The GMs in question are in a desperate need of EVE mechanics remedial classes.
Like just about a lot of other EVE GMs lately, sadly.
That reminds me of the "bubbles should disable MWDs" GM, rofl.

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Originally by: Rivqua

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Originally by: Akita T

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It was only an exploit back in the day when RRing the POS didn't flag the reppers to the WTs.
As soon as the flagging system was FIXED to allow WTs to kill the neutrals that RRed the POS, that ceased being an exploit and became "working as intended".

The GMs in question are in a desperate need of EVE mechanics remedial classes.
Like just about a lot of other EVE GMs lately, sadly.
That reminds me of the "bubbles should disable MWDs" GM, rofl.

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It's a fact that this bug is not fixed 100%. If I am at war with a PoS, BUT, not currently engaged with it (ie, no yellow timer, and some neutral reps the pos, he will NOT be a valid target to me, even if I am at war with the PoS. It can be rectified by me shooting the pos, at which time the neutral repairer will start to go blinky.

It's a bug. As long as the bug exists, CCP has decided that exploiting the mechanics is a bannable offence.

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Originally by: Jovoich

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Thats bull****. But its probs just GMs not knowing what there talking about.

The best one I had was a GM going emo at me saying I wasn't allowed to POD war targets in empire.

/me loves GM Applebabe.

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Originally by: Zortono

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Edited by: Zortono on 18/07/2009 18:18:16
I have received several warnings from GMs that I will be banned if I keep repping a neutral POS.

In response I have sent in a couple petitions and two GMs(Orfeus and Kaliastra) have confirmed that this is a exploit.

When did this happen? This has been a valid game mechanic for a long time.

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Originally by: Jovoich

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Thats bull****. But its probs just GMs not knowing what there talking about.

The best one I had was a GM going emo at me saying I wasn't allowed to POD war targets in empire.

/me loves GM Applebabe.

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Originally by: Jasper Dark

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I agree! Lets go back into caves and lick rocks!

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Originally by: Gnulpie

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Escalate it to Senior GM.

A neutral repping a pos of a war target will become flagged and the war target will be able to legally kill those repping people.

Why this is supposed to be an exploit is beyond my understanding. I can only assume some mistake here, therefore escalate the petition until you get a detailed explanation.

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Originally by: Zortono

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Edited by: Zortono on 18/07/2009 18:18:16
I have received several warnings from GMs that I will be banned if I keep repping a neutral POS.

In response I have sent in a couple petitions and two GMs(Orfeus and Kaliastra) have confirmed that this is a exploit.

When did this happen? This has been a valid game mechanic for a long time.

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Originally by: Zortono

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Originally by: Gnulpie

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Escalate it to Senior GM.

A neutral repping a pos of a war target will become flagged and the war target will be able to legally kill those repping people.

Why this is supposed to be an exploit is beyond my understanding. I can only assume some mistake here, therefore escalate the petition until you get a detailed explanation.

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After reading your reply I politely asked the GM to escalate this issue to a senior GM, he replied reassuring me that this was 'indeed an exploit' and denied the request.

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Originally by: Zortono

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Originally by: Gnulpie

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Escalate it to Senior GM.

A neutral repping a pos of a war target will become flagged and the war target will be able to legally kill those repping people.

Why this is supposed to be an exploit is beyond my understanding. I can only assume some mistake here, therefore escalate the petition until you get a detailed explanation.

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After reading your reply I politely asked the GM to escalate this issue to a senior GM, he replied reassuring me that this was 'indeed an exploit' and denied the request.

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Quote:

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Using remote armor repairers, remote hull repairers or remote shield transfer modules on a starbase belonging to a corporation that is at active war is now considered an exploit, if the pilots involved are not members of the corporation owning the starbase or members of a corporation in the same alliance.

Anyone utilizing this exploit to their advantage will face action from the GM team according to the rules laid out under the End Users License Agreement.

URL: http://www.eve-online.com/pnp/eula.asp

The EVE Online Customer Support Team

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Originally by: IsoMetricanTaliac 2

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Ok by what that says this rule ONLY applies when a starbase is owned by a corp/alliance that has an active wardec, or is that also open to be varied?

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Originally by: Epegi Givo

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then in this case i demand that neutral RReppers on ships also get banned.

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Originally by: Woodwraith

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CCP should really consider an internal, searchable knowledge base of exploits and basic stuff, theres way too much he said she said dealing with what is and isnt kosher in game and GM's giving different rulings on the same issue.

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Originally by: Venkul Mul

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Originally by: Woodwraith

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CCP should really consider an internal, searchable knowledge base of exploits and basic stuff, theres way too much he said she said dealing with what is and isnt kosher in game and GM's giving different rulings on the same issue.

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Step 1:
CCP put up a searchable knowledge base of exploits

Step 2:
70% of EVE players start using them every time there is no unfriendly looking. And 30% will try to use them even if there is someone looking, hoping to pass unnoticed or that the GM are too busy with the other thousand of petitions to do something in time.

Big NO to this.

(statistics are completely random numbers, but I think not too far from reality)

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Originally by: Jacharian

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This sounds like a bad idea. I'm in.

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Originally by: Maria Kalista

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Originally by: Venkul Mul

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Originally by: Woodwraith

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CCP should really consider an internal, searchable knowledge base of exploits and basic stuff, theres way too much he said she said dealing with what is and isnt kosher in game and GM's giving different rulings on the same issue.

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Step 1:
CCP put up a searchable knowledge base of exploits

Step 2:
70% of EVE players start using them every time there is no unfriendly looking. And 30% will try to use them even if there is someone looking, hoping to pass unnoticed or that the GM are too busy with the other thousand of petitions to do something in time.

Big NO to this.

(statistics are completely random numbers, but I think not too far from reality)

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He wrote *internal* for CCP only thus.

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Originally by: Shidhe

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Maybe CCP should go through their list of exploits, and delete them one by one by fixing the game mechanics.

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Originally by: Mioelnir

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That is the exploit announcement to the topic at hand:

http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=1491&tid=1

I destinctly remember that this was issued back then because the war-flag wasn't inherited by the repping neutrals. If that has indeed changed, as several posts in this thread suggest, I'd say we maybe need a policy change again.

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Originally by: Johnathan Walker

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Dumb question:

How would I know a neutral's corp is at war or not? They could TELL me they're not at war and I wouldn't know the difference.

Enter ban hammer, unless there is a way to check if a corp is at war with another.

Please no flames; I am not aware of such a function and would like to learn

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