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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance

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Posted - 2009.10.27 12:38:00 -
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please refrain from flaming and discussing who owns what alt in this thread. This is a lottery from BIG and you can buy tickets or not as you see fit.
Derailing this into a discussion thread may result in warnings being issued.
It is worth noting that a lottery of this magnitude may take a little longer than usual to sell the allotted tickets. Please be patient.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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tre introv
Diadochi Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.27 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please refrain from flaming and discussing who owns what alt in this thread. This is a lottery from BIG and you can buy tickets or not as you see fit.
Derailing this into a discussion thread may result in warnings being issued.
It is worth noting that a lottery of this magnitude may take a little longer than usual to sell the allotted tickets. Please be patient.
Obviously a TS alt...
Buy more tickets folks!
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Minmatari One
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Posted - 2009.10.27 15:08:00 -
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When did CCP decide to get involved in player businesses? A CCP employee saying "it may take longer than usual, be patient" is an ad for the OP. Why would or should a CCP employee care what is going with this lottery? Is it because CCP did a story on the lottery in the CCP news? Are we looking at another employee with ties to players? If Navigator is getting involved in giving us news about the progress of the lottery, will Navigator be explaining anything else about the lottery? Should we go to CCP and Navigator for our money if the angry guy turns out to be right? Does Navigator have information about the situation that we don't? How? So, Navigator, tell me, how long will the lottery take and when it would be okay with you to start raising a stink about it? |

BP Buyer
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Posted - 2009.10.27 15:44:00 -
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According to the ticket list, the first tickets were sold on 2009/08/06.
If I would whine that much as you ladies, everytime I put a billion ISK BPO into a 90 days research, I wouldn't make a dime.
Don't play with money, you don't want to loose.
*free for delete*
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Soldur
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:22:00 -
[635]
Edited by: Soldur on 27/10/2009 16:23:49
Originally by: CCP Navigator Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please refrain from flaming and discussing who owns what alt in this thread. This is a lottery from BIG and you can buy tickets or not as you see fit.
Derailing this into a discussion thread may result in warnings being issued.
It is worth noting that a lottery of this magnitude may take a little longer than usual to sell the allotted tickets. Please be patient.
I have money on the lottery and don't care how it goes but navigator stop promoting the business of the lottery its not your job. If you want to lock the thread or clean it be my guest but other than that keep your opinion to yourself. kthanx
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Jeerin Ubervox
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Jeerin Ubervox on 27/10/2009 16:34:28
Originally by: BP Buyer stuff indicating he hasn't read the rest of the posts
Read first, speak later. Everyone should buy lots of tickets cause its totally not a scam. And it totally doesn't matter that it will never end.
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:37:00 -
[637]
Originally by: CCP Navigator Ladies and Gentlemen, <snip> It is worth noting that a lottery of this magnitude may take a little longer than usual to sell the allotted tickets. Please be patient.
So CCP is encouraging people to send this guy isk?
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Soldur
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: CCP Navigator Ladies and Gentlemen, <snip> It is worth noting that a lottery of this magnitude may take a little longer than usual to sell the allotted tickets. Please be patient.
So CCP is encouraging people to send this guy isk?
dont worry im sure he has the isk to reimburse all of us if something goes wrong :(
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Prodigal
Caldari New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Minmatari One When did CCP decide to get involved in player businesses? A CCP employee saying "it may take longer than usual, be patient" is an ad for the OP. Why would or should a CCP employee care what is going with this lottery? Is it because CCP did a story on the lottery in the CCP news? Are we looking at another employee with ties to players? If Navigator is getting involved in giving us news about the progress of the lottery, will Navigator be explaining anything else about the lottery? Should we go to CCP and Navigator for our money if the angry guy turns out to be right? Does Navigator have information about the situation that we don't? How? So, Navigator, tell me, how long will the lottery take and when it would be okay with you to start raising a stink about it?
Umm, this is not the first time CCP have gotten involved in something the players were doing. A few years back BIG was having a huge lottery in observance of its 2nd or 3rd year running the BIG Lottery. CCP provided them with an Imperial Issue Apocolypse BS to put up as one of the prizes part in thanks to the service that TS and BIG had provided over the years to its community.
This is hardly CCP getting INVOLVED in player business anyways. Its basically a PSA added to a warning for chumps like you. (maybe me too as I am adding to it but its worth taking the hit to defend guys like TS and BIG for what they do for the community).
Before getting too critical of TS, BIG or CCP maybe you shoudl ask yourself what the hell have you done for the Eve Community lately?
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:49:00 -
[640]
Originally by: Prodigal
Before getting too critical of TS, BIG or CCP maybe you shoudl ask yourself what the hell have you done for the Eve Community lately?
To be quite honest, I'm quite impressed that TS has taken the concept of using the float on a lottery to the logical extreme.
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.27 17:00:00 -
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I did some quick numbers. Taking the last 30 days of ticket sales, and averaging them out, I get an average of 17.466 tickets sold per day, this is reasonably consistent over several different windows over the last 45 days of sales.
I feel it is reasonable to assume, that at this point, the lottery will continue to sell an average of about 17 and a half tickets a day over further timeframes in the near future.
There are 17,905 tickets still available according to http://bttl.big-eve.com/TicketList.aspx.
This lottery should finish on August 15th, 2012 should ticket sales continue at this pace.
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Minmatari One
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Posted - 2009.10.27 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Minmatari One on 27/10/2009 17:12:44
Originally by: Prodigal ...to defend guys like TS and BIG for what they do for the community. Before getting too critical of TS, BIG or CCP maybe you shoudl ask yourself what the hell have you done for the Eve Community lately?
What, exactly, has BIG done for the EVE community? Is earning a ridiculous amount of ISK a service? What has BIG done? Built orphanages? Fed the homeless? Discovered a cure for cancer? What?
edit: kalrand, what happens to the numbers if you drop out the 100 tickets angry guy says were bought by TS alt? |

T'Amber
ships of eve
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Posted - 2009.10.27 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand I did some quick numbers. Taking the last 30 days of ticket sales, and averaging them out, I get an average of 17.466 tickets sold per day, this is reasonably consistent over several different windows over the last 45 days of sales. I feel it is reasonable to assume, that at this point, the lottery will continue to sell an average of about 17 and a half tickets a day over further timeframes in the near future. There are 17,905 tickets still available according to http://bttl.big-eve.com/TicketList.aspx. This lottery should finish on August 15th, 2012 should ticket sales continue at this pace.
This lotto has now got the record for the most tickets sold this year <grumble>.
-T
(Click!)
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N0AA
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Posted - 2009.10.27 18:04:00 -
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.27 18:07:00 -
[645]
Originally by: Minmatari One
edit: kalrand, what happens to the numbers if you drop out the 100 tickets angry guy says were bought by TS alt?
100/17.5 = ~5.71
It would add less than a week of time to the lottery.
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Boreas Valiant
Gallente Hipernova
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Posted - 2009.10.28 14:14:00 -
[646]
Want my money back --
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REV001
Caldari VXR Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.28 14:48:00 -
[647]
Think it's time to start reimbursing the tickets sold.
This lottery is going nowhere, at the rate tickets are selling, providing ticket sales contignues at the same pace there will perhaps maybe be a draw in 3 years.
Looks like BIG lottery is turning into BIG SCAM. I'm pretty sure these titans put in the lottery don't even exist, and even if they exist I don't think the the guys selling them are going to wait 3 years on the isk.
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Lingua Franca
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Posted - 2009.10.28 16:21:00 -
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hate posting with alts. but my main does too much business on the forums. i want my money back too. i bought a bunch of tickets cause i trusted big. i never had any problems before. but this is too much. come on, torn. you have other business interests. some of us are starting to think twice. |

Unity Love
Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.28 16:49:00 -
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I'm just slightly confused as to whether TS had registered that at current rates this will be finished in 2012.... and thats not taking into account that anybody who wants a ticket has likely brought one....
*me shrugs*
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T'Amber
ships of eve
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Posted - 2009.10.28 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Unity Love I'm just slightly confused as to whether TS had registered that at current rates this will be finished in 2012.... and thats not taking into account that anybody who wants a ticket has likely brought one....
*me shrugs*
TBH, I think theres external factors influencing sales aswell, if i go by my last main event, i had already sold 3x as many tickets as the one im running now which is also slow on ticket sales. All the big events/ lottos are selling VERY slowly.
-T
(Click!)
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Dylon Xavier
Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Transcendent
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Posted - 2009.10.28 18:29:00 -
[651]
Hate to say this, but I too would like my tickets refunded. I've never had a problem with BIG before, but now i have to wonder. Dx |

Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.28 18:38:00 -
[652]
It would appear that Navigator's post had unintended consequences. The drumbeats are growing louder. We want our money back. |

Unity Love
Caldari Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.29 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: T'Amber
Originally by: Unity Love I'm just slightly confused as to whether TS had registered that at current rates this will be finished in 2012.... and thats not taking into account that anybody who wants a ticket has likely brought one....
*me shrugs*
TBH, I think theres external factors influencing sales aswell, if i go by my last main event, i had already sold 3x as many tickets as the one im running now which is also slow on ticket sales. All the big events/ lottos are selling VERY slowly.
-T
Eve financial crash?! At least you're (awesome imo) lotteries have that deadline thingy.
*builds a gold hoarding cave*
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Saithe
Caldari Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.10.29 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dumb Jerk Edited by: Dumb Jerk on 26/10/2009 19:36:29
Originally by: uperkurk Why wasnt there any 3rd party holding the titans?
Good question. Also interesting: CCP StevieG's post was followed by one from Ji Sama (calling for StevieG to get another job) and one from Daemonspirit (trying to say that StevieG's quote was actually about me). Both of them have been removed by CCP. Proof positive that both are Torn alts. Since Ji Sama "bought" 1 billion in tickets, it seems clear that we're never getting our money and there will never be a drawing for this lottery. Enjoy your small piece of EVE history: you (and me) are part of the group conned in the largest EVE scam ever.
lol someones never heard of the EIB Scam.
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.29 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Saithe lol someones never heard of the EIB Scam.
Or Ebank.
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Saithe
Caldari Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.10.29 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Saithe lol someones never heard of the EIB Scam.
Or Ebank.
EIB = Eve Investment Bank?
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.29 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Saithe
Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Saithe lol someones never heard of the EIB Scam.
Or Ebank.
EIB = Eve Investment Bank?
One was two years ish ago, the other like two months.
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Soldur
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.10.30 17:01:00 -
[658]
poasting to bring the flames back to the top
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Supreme Feather
Indigo Rising
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Posted - 2009.10.30 18:28:00 -
[659]
Official statement soon TornSoul? 
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TornSoul
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.30 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Supreme Feather Official statement soon TornSoul? 
Yes.
BIG Lottery |
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