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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.06 18:25:00 -
[1]
BTTL.BIG-EVE.COM
The BIG
"Tripple Titan"
Lottery
This is a BIG Lottery special with three prizes, each being a titan (incl. a travel fit)
1: Avatar
2: Erebus
3: Erebus
(check website for fittings)
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Each ticket costs 10 million ISK, with no limit on amount of tickets.
Each ticket is valid for all 3 draws (so 10 million ISK could win you 3 titans!)
30,000 tickets will be sold, for a total of 300 billion ISK.
Send your ISK to BIG Games in multiples of 10 million ISK, with reason Titan (make sure it's the *exact* text)
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Any errors (in reason or amount) will result in your purchase buying you regular BIG Lottery tickets (note that the BIG Lottery has a cap of 10M ISK, so anything above that will be lost)
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The BIG "Tripple Titan" Lottery ends when 30,000 tickets have been sold.
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If you buy tickets after the lottery has closed (all 30K tickets are sold), then your purchase will be refunded, up to two days after the draw.
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The winners will be found via the same public method as has always been used with the BIG Lottery.
Check the BIG Lottery website for details.
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Ticket receipt can be found on the website (only works in the IGB)
Do check the time on the website for when the next update is (updates are done approx once every 65 minutes)
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Good Luck all!
BIG Lottery |
supmonkey
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Posted - 2009.08.06 18:26:00 -
[2]
epic
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Lucy Fire
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.08.06 18:29:00 -
[3]
nice and second
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T'Amber
starvald emurlahn
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Posted - 2009.08.06 18:54:00 -
[4]
...
/me drops jaw
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Kae Sayuri
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Posted - 2009.08.06 19:02:00 -
[5]
It's "triple" and do you have to be able to fly them to win? (Like with chribbas lottery, if you can't fly he does a firesale)
And I can't seem to get the link to the BIG Lottery website to work (IGB or OOGB)
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Lucy Fire
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.08.06 19:07:00 -
[6]
 Originally by: Kae Sayuri
It's "triple" and do you have to be able to fly them to win? (Like with chribbas lottery, if you can't fly he does a firesale)
And I can't seem to get the link to the BIG Lottery website to work (IGB or OOGB)
BTTL.BIG-EVE.COM
Worked for me
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.06 19:14:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Kae Sayuri
It's "triple"
I'll fix.
Originally by: Kae Sayuri
and do you have to be able to fly them to win? (Like with chribbas lottery, if you can't fly he does a firesale)
And we'll do the firesale thing if need be yes.
BIG Lottery |
Leilani Solaris
Gallente
NibbleTek
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Posted - 2009.08.06 19:22:00 -
[8]
5 tickets for me please. sending isk now.
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Namelesz
Viscosity
Ocularis Inferno
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Posted - 2009.08.06 19:36:00 -
[9]
leave it to BIG to get back in the forefront of all the lotteries.
I'll be sure to buy some tickets for this one.
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Shamad Conde
Gallente
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2009.08.06 20:28:00 -
[10]
this is BIG.
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Zafriel
Gallente
NORTHSTAR CORPORATION
Northstar Coalition
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Posted - 2009.08.06 21:45:00 -
[11]
isk sent, now i just need luck :D
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Agmar
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.06 22:10:00 -
[12]
Because we all know I need 3 titans......
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Threat Level Midnight
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Baugoti
Amarr
Middle Finger Technology
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Posted - 2009.08.06 22:15:00 -
[13]
5 purchased
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PoPa
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.08.06 22:38:00 -
[14]
sent
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- Signed, PoPa!
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Jemanu
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Posted - 2009.08.06 22:51:00 -
[15]
sent
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Havegooda
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.06 23:05:00 -
[16]
Tempting.
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Mr Bright
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.06 23:06:00 -
[17]
20 bought ^^
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MrNerdo
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.06 23:09:00 -
[18]
Sweet lottery. Iskies sent.
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Please contact me ingame if i win a auction. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2009.08.06 23:22:00 -
[19]
Who is going to be the person that handles the exchange of the titans?
I would like to make sure someone trustworthy handles the exchanges.
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WTB a sig, or moderation of my sig by all the hot CCP girls. |
Nucanot
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.07 00:00:00 -
[20]
ISK sent 
BTW the link http://biglottery.big-eve-com/ is broken.
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Llu
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Posted - 2009.08.07 00:00:00 -
[21]
5 tickets for me; now who do I bribe to win  ?
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.07 02:47:00 -
[22]
5 for me please isk sent
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Grady Eltoren
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Posted - 2009.08.07 03:07:00 -
[23]
Holy BIG Batman! Isk sent for 3 tickets.
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Korin Muradrim
freelancers inc
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.07 03:09:00 -
[24]
Does the 25% extra rule apply? If so, will you round my 3,75 titans up to 4 when I win all the draws?
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Ragga Muffin
Black Serpent Technologies
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.08.07 04:27:00 -
[25]
/does his best Sean Connery
Give me 1 ping... 1 ping only
(having invoked the Connery you can now just call off the lotto and hand 'em over)
"Of all the things I have lost during my life I miss my mind the most." |
Vio Geraci
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.07 06:14:00 -
[26]
isk sent for 1 ticket, i hope it's the golden ticket
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Valeronx
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.07 06:36:00 -
[27]
30,000 to 1... I like those odds ! I'm in for a ticket. 
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Florence Mayweather
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Posted - 2009.08.07 07:11:00 -
[28]
actually it's 30000 to 3 to win 1 titan 
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T'sar
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Posted - 2009.08.07 07:44:00 -
[29]
Im so gonna get me one of them Erebus's for another alt
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leonrussell1982
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.07 07:58:00 -
[30]
10 tickets bought.... isk sent..... free bump
A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.
Napoleon Bonaparte |
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Phoenix492
Amarr
M. Corp Engineering
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.08.07 10:11:00 -
[31]
Bah, why not? 
Not too sure what I'd do with 3 titans...sell them? lol
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CaptianBlack
Minmatar
TITANIC SHIPS
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Posted - 2009.08.07 11:56:00 -
[32]
50m sent, 5 tickets for me :)
Use quotes ("") in URL tags or it breaks the layout.-Rauth |
Syox
ROMANIA Renegades
Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2009.08.07 12:12:00 -
[33]
30mil sent, 3 tickets.
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Tamira Thunderstar
Caldari
Madhatters Inc.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.07 12:15:00 -
[34]
very nice, money for 10 tickets sent
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Armies have conquered and fallen in the end,
Kingdoms have risen and buried by sand. |
Alesja
Amarr
Chanuur
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Posted - 2009.08.07 13:45:00 -
[35]
10 Tickets for me!
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.07 14:06:00 -
[36]
Edited by: mentalmackem on 07/08/2009 14:14:26
can u confirm i have tickets please cos im doing the receipt check thing and its saying no records found :s, i should now have 6 tickets bought if u can confirm that :)
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Tari Redhel
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.07 14:27:00 -
[37]
One ticket for me.
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Aloura Deshine
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Posted - 2009.08.07 14:45:00 -
[38]
WOW! Crazy Lottery!
Anyone know how much do Titan's cost in EVE?
Battleclinc says they cost 45bil to build???
What happens if I buy tickets and I can't fly the thing? Titans can't be docked right? Just safe spotted? I just wonder if I win if I can park mine until the day I am ready to fly (eek - long way off!)
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Exoset
Ma petite Entreprise ...
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Posted - 2009.08.07 14:47:00 -
[39]
2 tickets for me
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Govenor Strum
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Posted - 2009.08.07 15:01:00 -
[40]
One ticket...
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tuffswamp
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.07 16:48:00 -
[41]
sign me in 
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Korin Muradrim
freelancers inc
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.07 17:29:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Aloura Deshine
WOW! Crazy Lottery!
Anyone know how much do Titan's cost in EVE?
Battleclinc says they cost 45bil to build???
What happens if I buy tickets and I can't fly the thing? Titans can't be docked right? Just safe spotted? I just wonder if I win if I can park mine until the day I am ready to fly (eek - long way off!)
They cost about 70-80 bil on the open market and no, they can't be docked. If you can't fly it, BIG can firesale it for you (as stated in a previous post).
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Nitecom
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Posted - 2009.08.07 17:47:00 -
[43]
10 tickets bought!
^Free Bump^
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Mangala Solaris
Caldari
Ma'adim Logistics
Event Horizon.
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Posted - 2009.08.07 18:15:00 -
[44]
50 tickets bought. Oh and back up with you to the top!
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T'Amber
starvald emurlahn
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Posted - 2009.08.07 20:54:00 -
[45]
This is an uber lottery.
Bump Back up to the top.
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Jemanu
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Posted - 2009.08.07 21:38:00 -
[46]
CAN WE HAVE AN UPDATE? RECIEPTS HOW MANY TICKETS SOLD ECT???
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Phrixus Zephyr
MEK Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.07 22:52:00 -
[47]
Bamb.
50m sent.
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Bobroglaz
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.08 02:28:00 -
[48]
10 tickets....isk sent
bam....free bump 
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spacerslight
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Posted - 2009.08.08 02:57:00 -
[49]
bought one ticket yest...forgot all about it
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Veebring Greetings
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Posted - 2009.08.08 03:27:00 -
[50]
Did BIG ever build any Titans?
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Phoenix Adept
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Posted - 2009.08.08 09:56:00 -
[51]
Bump! come on...
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Kelly O'Connor
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.08 10:08:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Kelly O''Connor on 08/08/2009 10:10:52
Edited by: Kelly O''Connor on 08/08/2009 10:09:33
Seems i sent it wrong the first time, sent a 190m donation for the normal lottery :(
Evemailed you the possibility of getting a refund or moving it to the titan lottery, please confirm?
Edit: Also, please tell me how the frick you fit capital armor repairers in the mid slots, thanks!
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Sazuka Kirr
Trans-Solar Works
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.08.08 12:47:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Jemanu
CAN WE HAVE AN UPDATE? RECIEPTS HOW MANY TICKETS SOLD ECT???
Their website lists the number of tickets sold.
Quote:
Tickets sold sofar : 2.079
Next ticket update : 2009.08.08 13:02:36
Long, long way to go ...
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Navigaytion
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Posted - 2009.08.08 13:11:00 -
[54]
100mil sended and a bump in the meanwhile :)
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James Damar
Caldari
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.08 17:13:00 -
[55]
Need more titans in game \o/ |
CobraXero
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.08 18:51:00 -
[56]
\o/ lets see if we got any luck here
I went to Delve, and all i got was a crappy BoB T-Shirt ...
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Lucututerian
Cataclysm Enterprises
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.08.08 20:52:00 -
[57]
200 mil sent, 20 tickets pls
WAR IS BAD, BUT THE SOUND IS COOL!! |
Shikami
Gallente
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.08 21:29:00 -
[58]
10 Tickets bought
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Jack Sparroxx
Honour Bound
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Posted - 2009.08.08 21:32:00 -
[59]
10 tickets bought.. free bump
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Zephirz
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.08.08 22:02:00 -
[60]
bought 12 tickets
cant seem to get the receipt thing to work tho? just gotta be patient? :)
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Felton Fundenberger
Caldari
Rosa Alba
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.08 22:21:00 -
[61]
Sent some isk :)
reciept works fine after update has gone thru.
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Veloci10
Caldari
Organisation VII
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Posted - 2009.08.08 23:21:00 -
[62]
ISK Sent
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Arretu
Red Sun Industries
Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr
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Posted - 2009.08.09 00:25:00 -
[63]
5 tickets please, with a free bump on the side.
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Hukner
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Posted - 2009.08.09 01:55:00 -
[64]
Interesting fittings on the fittings page here, http://bttl.big-eve.com/Fittings.aspx . Can I hold you to providing the titans with CARs in the mid slots?
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Gho Higyidr
Black Serpent Technologies
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.08.09 02:57:00 -
[65]
Eh why not. 3rd time's a charm right? Isk sent
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Pina Ohara
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Posted - 2009.08.09 10:51:00 -
[66]
bought some tickets... i wish everyone good luck
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Rorae
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Posted - 2009.08.09 11:57:00 -
[67]
bought tickets.
Thanks
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KUNG'FU BOSANAC
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.09 13:48:00 -
[68]
5 tickets bought :d
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UclanChar
Heracles.
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Posted - 2009.08.09 14:28:00 -
[69]
yoink
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mingmin
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Posted - 2009.08.09 15:01:00 -
[70]
Any errors (in reason or amount) will result in your purchase buying you regular BIG Lottery tickets (note that the BIG Lottery has a cap of 10M ISK, so anything above that will be lost)
Its late and i maybe being dumb, but what does that exactly mean, if i send 50m thats capped down to 10m?
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GENERAL CONSTANTINO
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Posted - 2009.08.09 15:51:00 -
[71]
is this legit and secure? just want to ask never joined anything like this before and because 10 mil is not so small to give away, but tbh first time to see one with such a big price.
so last question is? how can we buy tickets then? XD
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Viperella
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Posted - 2009.08.09 16:19:00 -
[72]
isk sent .
greta lottery ;)
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.08.09 16:48:00 -
[73]
Originally by: GENERAL CONSTANTINO
is this legit and secure? just want to ask never joined anything like this before and because 10 mil is not so small to give away, but tbh first time to see one with such a big price.
so last question is? how can we buy tickets then? XD
"Send your ISK to BIG Games in multiples of 10 million ISK, with reason Titan (make sure it's the *exact* text)"-check first post again, all answers are there.
In fact I think it's secure because BIG Games is in this game for a very long time and was always trustable.
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Loney
CyberDyne R-D
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Posted - 2009.08.09 17:13:00 -
[74]
I guess I will take 3 tickets... one for each ship!
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Check out our Lottery and Store!
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Rock Tsingtoa
Gallente
Enhanced Logistics
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Posted - 2009.08.09 17:22:00 -
[75]
Got my tickets
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Raaki
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.09 20:10:00 -
[76]
10 tickets bought.
Is there a way to see somewhere how many tickets have been sold so far ?
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Phoenix493
Orion Faction
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Posted - 2009.08.09 20:25:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Phoenix493 on 09/08/2009 20:26:38
Could you post the Fittings?
The "Fittings" Page is wrong on the website...unless Cap Armour Reps are now mid slot modules?
EDIT: Hukner already beat me to this lol..bump anyway! Get buying those tickets! we're a 1/10th of the way there...I think..
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KIAEnIgMa
Caldari
Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.08.09 21:52:00 -
[78]
50 Million sent
5 tickets please
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Lunewraith
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.08.10 06:44:00 -
[79]
How the heck this hit page 3?
Bought my ticket, get yours!
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Tiger Emzy
Caldari
Defcon One
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Posted - 2009.08.10 09:03:00 -
[80]
Tree more here!
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Lord Vaevictis
Infinity Enterprises
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.10 09:48:00 -
[81]
20 tickets please
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The Equinox
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Posted - 2009.08.10 10:10:00 -
[82]
I take 50 Tickets , money sent
http://www.hostzoid.com/hertog_jan/signaturetheequinox.jpg |
Oghma Grianainech
Minmatar
Peces Of Eighte
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.08.10 12:36:00 -
[83]
4tickets!
/me ponders liquidate assets and win!
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Amigoameise
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Posted - 2009.08.10 12:38:00 -
[84]
whats if the winner cant fly it? will you sell it for him or give him the isk?
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Liandra Xi
Amarr
modro
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Posted - 2009.08.10 12:55:00 -
[85]
1 ticket bought, go big spender!
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Crazy Ruslik
Minmatar
Warhamsters
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.10 13:01:00 -
[86]
1 ticket, isk sent
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ShadowandLight
Amarr
Hammer Of Light
Praetorian Guards.
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Posted - 2009.08.10 13:33:00 -
[87]
bought 10 tickets
good luck... to me!
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jtaylor13
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Posted - 2009.08.10 13:48:00 -
[88]
sent
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Tryproxy
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Posted - 2009.08.10 14:06:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Tryproxy on 10/08/2009 14:06:50
Nvm, wrong char 
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Trypoxylon
Amarr
Eve of Annihilation
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Posted - 2009.08.10 14:09:00 -
[90]
Hi,
it is me again. 5 pings... uhm tickets please
ISK sent to BIG Games, thx.
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Max Hellscream
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Posted - 2009.08.10 14:09:00 -
[91]
I bought 3, go me!
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Boreas Valiant
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.10 14:11:00 -
[92]
soon, you all are going to envy me
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HyPerRaZieL
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Posted - 2009.08.10 14:56:00 -
[93]
5 Tickets, isk sendet ....
gl all :P
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boomchucka
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Posted - 2009.08.10 14:57:00 -
[94]
10m isk sent - give me one! |
Ultra Power
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.10 15:05:00 -
[95]
8 tickets for me, money sent
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Mythrantar
Caldari
Darkwave Technologies
Kahora Catori
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Posted - 2009.08.10 15:08:00 -
[96]
1 ticket bought - isk sent. Thank you!
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Pierced Brosmen
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.10 15:14:00 -
[97]
Isk sent for 5 tickets
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Desyred
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Posted - 2009.08.10 15:23:00 -
[98]
Iskies sent for 1 ticket... oh, and Bump!
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Enidan Lost
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Posted - 2009.08.10 15:43:00 -
[99]
isks sent for two tickets
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Watschlohr
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Posted - 2009.08.10 15:59:00 -
[100]
5tickets, pls... isk sendet
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hEtt
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.08.10 16:04:00 -
[101]
5 Tickets please, Isk sent.
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FrizzL3
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Posted - 2009.08.10 16:30:00 -
[102]
Edited by: FrizzL3 on 10/08/2009 16:30:38
5 tickets,isk sent
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Jeckyll Hide
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Posted - 2009.08.10 16:54:00 -
[103]
5 tickets, isk send
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Don Tiberon
The Home Depot
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Posted - 2009.08.10 16:57:00 -
[104]
20 tickets. isk sent
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Ervol Libra
Amarr
Pinky and the Brain corp
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Posted - 2009.08.10 17:05:00 -
[105]
1 ticket for me
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr
Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.08.10 17:19:00 -
[106]
5 tickets plz.
--Isaac
Isaac's Haul*Mart - Closed
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Tchernoborg
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Posted - 2009.08.10 17:30:00 -
[107]
one ticket bought :D iskies sent!
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Riku Snow
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.08.10 17:38:00 -
[108]
5 tickets , isk sent.
Good luck to us all.
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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2009.08.10 17:59:00 -
[109]
Ahh......
Gotta love BIG and the Lottery!!
This ticket purchase supports a much better cause than Chribba's current lotto offerings.
Keep up the great work guys and put me down for 200 tickets.
Isk will be sent later on today.
Cheers,
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intel provider
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Posted - 2009.08.10 18:24:00 -
[110]
5 for me pls, isk sent
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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.08.10 18:32:00 -
[111]
60 tickets! 
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Thorexion Lynch
Gallente
Divine Retribution
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Posted - 2009.08.10 19:10:00 -
[112]
Isk sent for 3
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Talor Vet
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Posted - 2009.08.10 19:20:00 -
[113]
3 tickets
isk sent
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Wilson Yu
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Posted - 2009.08.10 19:25:00 -
[114]
1 ticket bought 10 million isk sent ^_^
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Kelly O'Connor
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.10 19:28:00 -
[115]
The inability to reply to an evemail sent 4 days ago is bad customer service :(
Please reply if you could!
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Jemanu
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Posted - 2009.08.10 19:38:00 -
[116]
moar tickets bought
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Diox
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Posted - 2009.08.10 19:49:00 -
[117]
10 tix bought.
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Mallegant VanSaar
Invicta.
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.10 20:09:00 -
[118]
5 tickets bought :D
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Do you love me? |
sfsdf
STK Scientific
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.10 20:50:00 -
[119]
tickets bought
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Potyec
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Posted - 2009.08.10 21:43:00 -
[120]
Take Care a scammer with double ss !!
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Jack Gauge
Caldari
BulletProof Monks
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.08.10 22:53:00 -
[121]
10 please....ISK sent.
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---Jack--- |
Guns nButter
The Nietzian Way
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Posted - 2009.08.10 23:13:00 -
[122]
10 tickets bought.
*breaks out the lucky dice*
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Moxprow
Gallente
Darkness Realized
deadspace society
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Posted - 2009.08.10 23:39:00 -
[123]
ISK for 5 sent. GL peeps.
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Phoenix Zero
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Posted - 2009.08.10 23:47:00 -
[124]
just bought 20 tickets GL everyone
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Warzon3
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Posted - 2009.08.10 23:59:00 -
[125]
Quote:
1: Avatar
High Slots:
- Judgement
- Jump Portal Generator I
- Improved Cloaking Device II
Med Slots:
- 5 * Cap Recharger II
low slots:
- 2 * Capital Armor Repairer I
- 6 * Capacitor Power Relay II
Rig Slots:
- 3 * Capacitor Control Circuit II
nice fit but how do you slap 3 CCC II rigs on there? Avatar got 400 calibration and a CCC II rig takes 150 calibration wich will have you end up short of 50 calibration
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Dolen Ohtar
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Posted - 2009.08.11 01:36:00 -
[126]
lol.... nice you did well BIG nice you get 300,000,000,000.00isk for 3 titans wish i could make that kinda isk nice profit
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NoLSolid
Gallente
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
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Posted - 2009.08.11 01:41:00 -
[127]
8 tickets bought ♥
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You and I are mortal but Rock and Roll will NEVER die!
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Corpse Female
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Posted - 2009.08.11 05:42:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Warzon3
Quote:
1: Avatar
High Slots:
- Judgement
- Jump Portal Generator I
- Improved Cloaking Device II
Med Slots:
- 5 * Cap Recharger II
low slots:
- 2 * Capital Armor Repairer I
- 6 * Capacitor Power Relay II
Rig Slots:
- 3 * Capacitor Control Circuit II
nice fit but how do you slap 3 CCC II rigs on there? Avatar got 400 calibration and a CCC II rig takes 150 calibration wich will have you end up short of 50 calibration
^^^^ That is True  ^^^^
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Leana Darksith
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Posted - 2009.08.11 06:01:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Dolen Ohtar
lol.... nice you did well BIG nice you get 300,000,000,000.00isk for 3 titans wish i could make that kinda isk nice profit
You can. Get 3 titans and get a trusted seller (Big, Darknesss or Chribba) to auction it off for you. For a price of course.
Bought a few tickets
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NuKemNicely
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Posted - 2009.08.11 06:04:00 -
[130]
Isk sent :) now choose my lucky numbers
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Wheezie2
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Posted - 2009.08.11 08:35:00 -
[131]
3 tickets to me, isk sent.
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LoveKebab
Caldari
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.11 08:46:00 -
[132]
holy **** :) that's one big lottery right there :)
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Alois Hammer
Minmatar
Dinochrome Brigade
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.08.11 08:49:00 -
[133]
sent in for 3 ....i promise do dd everyone in here if i win!!!
:)
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Kain Duku
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Posted - 2009.08.11 08:51:00 -
[134]
isk sent for 5 "fingers x'd"
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DarkOmegaD
Airhawk Enterprizes
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Posted - 2009.08.11 09:28:00 -
[135]
I had purchased 5 tickets about a day ago now and under the receipts it still says nothing found. It makes no mention of the titan lottery there so is it suppose to be the same receipt section as the regular lottery?
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Don ZOLA
Caldari
Vale Tudo.
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Posted - 2009.08.11 11:15:00 -
[136]
For all questions and things needed to change - TornSoul has a flu atm so he will give you all answers, and do necesarry fit changes when he is out of bed. Rigs on avatar are 2 x CCC t2 and 1X frizzle joint. Thanks for patience and understanding and good luck :) |
TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.11 13:19:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Leana Darksith
Originally by: Dolen Ohtar
lol.... nice you did well BIG nice you get 300,000,000,000.00isk for 3 titans wish i could make that kinda isk nice profit
You can. Get 3 titans and get a trusted seller (Big, Darknesss or Chribba) to auction it off for you. For a price of course.
Leana Darksith knows. Too. Much... (but is right )
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As Zola says, I've been down with the flu/throat infection for quite a bit (I'm fine again, since yesterday (monday) finally)
Website was done in a feber haze... (backend coding had thankfully been done before), so the fitting page had a few slip ups, should be fixed now.
I've also added the bit about the firesale option, if the winners can't fly the titan.
BIG Lottery |
Moudib
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Posted - 2009.08.11 13:53:00 -
[138]
10 tickets please. ISK sent. LLTF!
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Speedy Death
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Posted - 2009.08.11 14:02:00 -
[139]
100m sent for 10 tickets =)
..not seeing fittings or anything about this on site tho... =(
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.11 14:17:00 -
[140]
Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Leana Darksith
Originally by: Dolen Ohtar
lol.... nice you did well BIG nice you get 300,000,000,000.00isk for 3 titans wish i could make that kinda isk nice profit
You can. Get 3 titans and get a trusted seller (Big, Darknesss or Chribba) to auction it off for you. For a price of course.
Leana Darksith knows. Too. Much... (but is right )
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As Zola says, I've been down with the flu/throat infection for quite a bit (I'm fine again, since yesterday (monday) finally)
Website was done in a feber haze... (backend coding had thankfully been done before), so the fitting page had a few slip ups, should be fixed now.
I've also added the bit about the firesale option, if the winners can't fly the titan.
SWIIIIIINE FLU, run for the hills :P
seriously tho how many tickets are sold can we get a update like ecery day or 2?
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Don ZOLA
Caldari
Vale Tudo.
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Posted - 2009.08.11 14:32:00 -
[141]
Originally by: mentalmackem
SWIIIIIINE FLU, run for the hills :P
seriously tho how many tickets are sold can we get a update like ecery day or 2?
Tickets sold sofar : 7.048
You can check it anytime you want at http://bttl.big-eve.com/ :)
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Vimal
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Posted - 2009.08.11 15:21:00 -
[142]
25 tickets please.. isk sent via corp.. and ofc a friendly bump
good luck to everyone!
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Mike Reevis
Minmatar
First Slave Corporation
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Posted - 2009.08.11 15:29:00 -
[143]
OOOOO Titans! 2 tickets please! |
Dunkin McLoud
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Posted - 2009.08.11 16:15:00 -
[144]
Edited by: Dunkin McLoud on 11/08/2009 16:22:44
Edited by: Dunkin McLoud on 11/08/2009 16:15:54
Edited by: Dunkin McLoud on 11/08/2009 16:15:05
Quote:
Then we will, on the winners behalf, hold a fast "firesale" auction, starting at 50B ISK. Whatever the titan sells for, minus a 10% admin fee, is what the winner will get.
ok you guys already make roughly 60 billion from holding the lottery why do u need to take the extra 10% when we could simply give it to a 3rd party to sell and they charge less then 10%...
also 10% of 50 billion btw ppl is 5 Billion isk.... which means if u sell the titan at a minimum BIG gets an additonal 15 billion isk.
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Vajeyjey
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Posted - 2009.08.11 16:41:00 -
[145]
i wouldnt complain....
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Dunkin McLoud
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Posted - 2009.08.11 16:51:00 -
[146]
The only reason i brought it up was that BIG is already making 60 billion and there getting greedy if they want 5 billion 4 acting/finding a 3rd party.
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Ti Seran
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Posted - 2009.08.11 16:55:00 -
[147]
5 Tickets please - isk sent
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Cute Cuddles
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Posted - 2009.08.11 17:03:00 -
[148]
Originally by: TornSoul
Whatever the titan sells for, minus a 10% admin fee, is what the winner will get.
Holy crap. I suppose if we wanted you could just hand it over a different 3rd party like Chribba or Darkness until we sell it ourself right? 
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Hampler65
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2009.08.11 17:23:00 -
[149]
bought 5 ... gl every1
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AdmiralHAL
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.11 17:30:00 -
[150]
brought 2 tickets 5 days ago and still isnt showing up on receits
20mil was exact with the titan reason :I
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Jack Gauge
Caldari
BulletProof Monks
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.08.11 18:11:00 -
[151]
Comon, how hard is it to update the receipts page to include this lottery.
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nuveah
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Posted - 2009.08.11 19:42:00 -
[152]
sent isk for 1 ticket
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Ewan Heaven
Superior Research
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Posted - 2009.08.11 20:02:00 -
[153]
isk sent
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Potyec
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Posted - 2009.08.11 20:50:00 -
[154]
Hey !
I was buying tickets but i fear about that 30k tickiet would be newer sold :( couse not so much people are playing lotto :(.
What's happening if just 10K ticket sold ?! just 1 titan choosed ?
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.08.11 21:10:00 -
[155]
believe me, they WILL be sold...it maybe needs a few weeks but they WILL be sold.
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Black Irbis
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Posted - 2009.08.11 21:47:00 -
[156]
2 tickets please , ISK sent. |
Drazig
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Posted - 2009.08.11 21:48:00 -
[157]
isk sent for 5 tickets.
Good luck to all participants.
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E Normus
Minmatar
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.08.11 22:22:00 -
[158]
Isk sent ,
E
"Do or do not , there is no try" Yoda. |
Aldeberon
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Posted - 2009.08.11 23:20:00 -
[159]
bought 5 tickets:) what the hell.
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Pajama Sam
Copia-WarRages Armaments
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Posted - 2009.08.11 23:35:00 -
[160]
Edited by: Pajama Sam on 11/08/2009 23:34:50
isk sent
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Denidil
Gallente
Shadowed Command
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2009.08.12 01:33:00 -
[161]
bought 1 ticket on my alt.. still not showing up on receipt page....
would appreciate it showing up.
and are you auctioning off the titans+fittings and paying the result to the winner if they cannot fly titans just like last time?
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Felicia Bastian
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Posted - 2009.08.12 01:56:00 -
[162]
Isk Sent 1 Ticket
TY
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Arlocanta
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Posted - 2009.08.12 03:45:00 -
[163]
Edited by: Arlocanta on 12/08/2009 03:50:40
Its been 6-7 days almost and 8k tickets sold its going fairly quick based on how many tickets their are.
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Sja Vandr
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Posted - 2009.08.12 05:24:00 -
[164]
Quote:
Whatever the titan sells for, minus a 10% admin fee, is what the winner will get.
What are you ****ting me? xD
That's rediculous...
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JMcClane
Gallente
Ancient Spirits
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Posted - 2009.08.12 06:46:00 -
[165]
isk for 10 tickets send
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DarkAvenger DK
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:32:00 -
[166]
iskies send ! lets see how this goes GL all
bump
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Emnity Preston
Caldari
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.08.12 08:38:00 -
[167]
5Bn+ is quite some admin fee for firesaling a Titan :p
Gogo sales!
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I know Violence is not the answer.. I got it wrong on purpose. |
MADMAT
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.12 12:41:00 -
[168]
ISK sent for a ticket
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Aaquille
Phoenix Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.12 13:13:00 -
[169]
WTH 100 tickets bought! Good luck everyone
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Arlocanta
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Posted - 2009.08.12 14:36:00 -
[170]
I would like to know why their is such a huge admin fee when if the 30k tickets are sold you will more than get whats needed for further lottery's so why 10%.
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Oresome
Twisted Creations
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Posted - 2009.08.12 14:57:00 -
[171]
sent isk for 1 ticket
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Oresome
Twisted Creations
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Posted - 2009.08.12 15:06:00 -
[172]
isk sent for 3 more tickets.
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Lehaul
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Posted - 2009.08.12 15:09:00 -
[173]
isk sent for 10 tickets
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Susie Parada
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Posted - 2009.08.12 15:15:00 -
[174]
isk sent for 10 tickets
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ShadowandLight
Amarr
Hammer Of Light
Praetorian Guards.
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Posted - 2009.08.12 16:29:00 -
[175]
only just under 9k tickets sold, need 21k more...
im not sure this is gonna happen anytime soon!
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Certel
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Posted - 2009.08.12 17:17:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Certel on 12/08/2009 17:19:47
30 tickets bought,
what kinda odds I have to win one of the 3?
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Ze4K DK
Gallente
topSTUFFed Productions Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.12 19:41:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Sja Vandr
Quote:
Whatever the titan sells for, minus a 10% admin fee, is what the winner will get.
What are you ****ting me? xD
That's ridiculous...
Yeah it's kinda lame... You get plenty of profit off ticket sales, don't push it... At max take 2% or maybe even 5%... but 10% for running an auction?
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.12 20:35:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Ze4K DK
You get plenty of profit off ticket sales
Little do you know...
It's in fact the producers (which isn't BIG) raking in the profit, and who have set the prices - Not I.
We are just brokering it.
BIG Lottery |
Lasakywa
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.12 20:46:00 -
[179]
How many tickets sold so far ?
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Valgorie
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Posted - 2009.08.12 20:50:00 -
[180]
5 tickets bought , isk sent
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Dunkin McLoud
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Posted - 2009.08.12 21:55:00 -
[181]
You should be getting paid by the producersnot from the buyers and even if that's true we could still be getting a better "admin fee" since they don't charge anything near what you are charging for a 3rd party.
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Togae Alus
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.12 22:54:00 -
[182]
7 tickets for me
lets see if i win
BTW i also have the big lotto thing on bio so would not mind 25% extra prize
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Hitomi Desu
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Posted - 2009.08.13 07:02:00 -
[183]
How do you frackin' justify a 10% "admin fee" ?
That's hilarious.
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Liandra Xi
Amarr
modro
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Posted - 2009.08.13 10:24:00 -
[184]
As i cannot fly a titan myself, if I win can I nominate someone who will collect it on my behalf, so I may then arrange sale through a 3rd party of my choice? 10% "admin" fee is just ridiculous imho, and leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth towards BIG tbh, 2% i can see as justifiable but 10% is highway robbery, especially when this term was only announced AFTER numerous people had already bought tickets and I would say is not a "standard" admin fee either for an auction firesale.
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psykiller
Caldari
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.13 10:40:00 -
[185]
10x tickets, isk sent :d
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Strenght and Honour. Heart of one, strenght of many. Glory and Honour in death.
Proud to be RAWR |
Anfinity
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Posted - 2009.08.13 14:29:00 -
[186]
5x tickets, isk sent
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Vickill
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.13 15:06:00 -
[187]
5x tickets, isk sent.
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.13 15:22:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Liandra Xi
As i cannot fly a titan myself, if I win can I nominate someone who will collect it on my behalf, so I may then arrange sale through a 3rd party of my choice?
You can most definatly do that.
In fact, I would be delighted if you did so (as in, it saves me the trouble)
Originally by: Liandra Xi
2% i can see as justifiable but 10% is highway robbery, especially when this term was only announced AFTER numerous people had already bought tickets and I would say is not a "standard" admin fee either for an auction firesale.
And just how many auction firesales do you calculate this standard of yours off?
"this term was only announced AFTER numerous people had already bought tickets"
Err yes... Alongside the added beneficial option of the firesale itself.
According to your implied logic, I should remove the firesale option itself, as it was added after the first people had bought tickets...
FWIW :
I've been in the brokering (in it's broadest sense) business for 6+ years, and 10% has pretty much been the "Gold Standard" in all that time.
Occationally 5% has been used - Usually with repeat customers/old friends or when other circumstances for some reason favored a lowered fee.
(5% is in fact the brokering fee for this lottery itself - As it involves old friends)
2% is outright ridiculous...
I'll grant however that 5% is seeing increased use (over the 10%) over the last couple of years (Chribba's first titan lottery was also on a 5% broker fee), but it still can not be considered a new "Gold Standard" - But we might be in a transitory state. Time will tell.
Call me old fashioned, but I find the 10% appropriate
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I must admit to being a bit perplexed as to why people are getting their panties in such a bunch over the fee, as in the grand scheme of things the winner still stands to win *alot* of ISK (if selling the titan) regardless the brokering percentage being 2%,5% or 10%.
And the real ISK makers (apart from the winners) are still the producers, and imo they can sell (or in this case "lottery off") thier produce for whatever price they like.
I guess even a 1% brokering fee would have some people upset... *shrug*
BIG Lottery |
Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2009.08.13 16:27:00 -
[189]
The naysayers (re: Brokering Fee) should maybe take their two cents to another thread instead of polluting this one.
Purchase tickets or go away!
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Tel'ana
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Posted - 2009.08.13 17:36:00 -
[190]
Just out of curiosity, is there any chance that I could, IF I win, be put into contact with the "producers". I would be willing to bet that they might be interested in buying the Titan(s) back.
IE. they make almost 100bil each on these things. If the winner(s) sold them back to them for say 80Bil, they would have made a profit of 20bil(ish) and could then reauction them for even more profit.
Just an idea, though, lol.
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Certel
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Posted - 2009.08.13 17:41:00 -
[191]
For a lot of people (including myself), this is going to be the closes I will ever get to having one of these things. The odds are not great, but I have better odds in this circumstance then I would if my corp where to try and build one (yeah not going to happen). So for me this is a win regardless of the outcome.
Thanks BIG for giving everyone a chance to have a titan.
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Navigaytion
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Posted - 2009.08.13 20:57:00 -
[192]
Just free bump , hope tickets gets sold quickly
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Jingo Valon
Caldari
Rule of Five
The Junta
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Posted - 2009.08.13 21:09:00 -
[193]
ISK sent for several tickets. =)
And, IF I should be so lucky as to win one of these beauties, I would indeed have BIG do a quick firesale auction on my behalf, and will GLADLY give the 10% fee...it's damn near all profit to me, so why not. =)
Thank you BIG, you provide a fun service !! ( where else do we have a chance at winning 3 Titans? )
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tarike
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Posted - 2009.08.13 21:33:00 -
[194]
10 tickets bought ....free bump
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Ragga Muffin
Black Serpent Technologies
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.08.14 02:30:00 -
[195]
WTF are people *****ing about 10% for? you are getting a F***ING TITAN for what? 10m? 50m? gimmie a break.
"Of all the things I have lost during my life I miss my mind the most." |
SirSpectre
Gallente
Harbingers Of Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.14 04:28:00 -
[196]
tickets bought \o/
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Sja Vandr
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Posted - 2009.08.14 05:03:00 -
[197]
Quote:
I've been in the brokering (in it's broadest sense) business for 6+ years, and 10% has pretty much been the "Gold Standard" in all that time.
Really? So the authority on these things (Chribba) gets an 8 bil fee?
I'm not sure which planet you are from xD
It's like saying "Yea you can win this lottery but if you can't actually fly a titan I'll take 8 billion from you" - logic is absent in that reasoning :p
Oh yes and arguements like "you'll get a titan for 10m what are you complaining about" are just ******ed...
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Warchild Lightningblade
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.14 06:35:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Sja Vandr
Edited by: Sja Vandr on 14/08/2009 05:06:42
Quote:
I've been in the brokering (in it's broadest sense) business for 6+ years, and 10% has pretty much been the "Gold Standard" in all that time.
Really? So the authority on these things (Chribba) gets an 8 bil fee?
I'm not sure which planet you are from xD
It's like saying "Yea you can win this lottery but if you can't actually fly a titan I'll take 8 billion from you" - logic is absent in that reasoning :p
Oh yes and arguements like "you'll get a titan for 10m what are you complaining about" are just ******ed...
edit:
boils down to: I require a person to be trustworthy for an auction like this, adding such a thing is just weird at the least (I don't care how you jump up and down, 10% of 80 bil+ is just a boatload for only exchanging a titan and everyone will agree with me on that), so I will not buy a ticket in this auction.
He isnt forcing you to use him as 3rd party...
And if you don't know about Tornsoul and the BIG lottery that has been running *forever*, you need to come out from under that rock.
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Jemanu
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Posted - 2009.08.14 08:49:00 -
[199]
bump to top, if you cant fly a titan you should learn and stop complaining
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Sja Vandr
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Posted - 2009.08.14 09:19:00 -
[200]
irrelevant replies are irrelevant
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Disv
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Posted - 2009.08.14 09:20:00 -
[201]
Edited by: Disv on 14/08/2009 09:22:10
Bought 5 Tickets a few days ago, still nothing showing up in receipts? Normal? .
Disv.
P.s. I agree that 10% fee for selling something is a little OTT especially on somehting as expensive as a Titan..... maybe 5% would be a little more Fair?
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worker05
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Posted - 2009.08.14 11:06:00 -
[202]
i love an easy scam. hope your alts enjoy the pretend ships lol. lotto my foot. i really must try this make myself an easy feww hundred bill
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Hitomi Desu
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Posted - 2009.08.14 12:26:00 -
[203]
Well if one is able to transfer the Titan to someone else, I could like pick it up a week later, so I can run my own auction?
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Agmar
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.14 16:10:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Ragga Muffin
WTF are people *****ing about 10% for? you are getting a F***ING TITAN for what? 10m? 50m? gimmie a break.
I'm not *****ing about 10%, but your math is a BIT flawed... .1 x 60,000,000,000 = 6,000,000,000
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Threat Level Midnight
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Lea Swiftfoot
Amarr
Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:04:00 -
[205]
1 ticket bought
isk sent
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Ze4K DK
Gallente
Nova-Tek
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:21:00 -
[206]
Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Kae Sayuri
and do you have to be able to fly them to win? (Like with chribbas lottery, if you can't fly he does a firesale)
And we'll do the firesale thing if need be yes.
This is on the first page... The 10% admin fee part was added later in the OP, AFTER a lot of people bought tickets... I won't complain if i win but i still think it's wrong...
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nonsciolist
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:33:00 -
[207]
Stop whining.
The firesale option wasn't there before the 10% thing too and people still bought tickets, so just do what you were planning on doing before the firesale if you're not happy about it and stop ****ting up the thread?
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Daemonspirit
Sadistically Sinister
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Posted - 2009.08.14 17:39:00 -
[208]
Originally by: worker05
i love an easy scam. hope your alts enjoy the pretend ships lol. lotto my foot. i really must try this make myself an easy feww hundred bill
Check your history. Even a brief bit of research will show you that Big Games has been around awhile.
Isk sent for Five (5) tickets.
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
Ze4K DK
Gallente
Nova-Tek
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.08.14 21:31:00 -
[209]
Originally by: nonsciolist
Stop whining.
The firesale option wasn't there before the 10% thing too and people still bought tickets, so just do what you were planning on doing before the firesale if you're not happy about it and stop ****ting up the thread?
It was... If you read my post, the one right before yours, you'd know that... It wasn't in the OP but someone asked about it and was told that they would do a firesale if need be, no mention of a whopping 10% fee for the service... On page 1... Before it was included in the OP... I know because i was wondering if there was gonna be that option when i read the OP, then i read further down the page, got confirmation and bought tickets... Next time i look a 10% fee has been added...
Why are you so angry anyways? Our "whining" keeps the thread bumped and doesn't affect you at all...
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Cypress Cavalero
The Darkness Within
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Posted - 2009.08.14 21:59:00 -
[210]
2x tickets plz
Isk sent
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Kyra Neve
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Posted - 2009.08.14 23:50:00 -
[211]
Originally by: worker05
i love an easy scam. hope your alts enjoy the pretend ships lol. lotto my foot. i really must try this make myself an easy feww hundred bill
You noob lack the intelligence to do so, that's why you are whining here.
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Nova Satar
Annihilate.
Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.08.15 09:54:00 -
[212]
everyone moaning about a broker fee is clearly too noob to realise how much hassle it is to actually sell a titan.
I reckon most of 'em think you'll just put it on contracts
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Oghma Grianainech
Minmatar
Peces Of Eighte
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.08.15 12:44:00 -
[213]
The IGB receipt url on big website does not seem to work for this draw....
and there is no information about this draw on the website. Can someone please verify.
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Hettere Lema
The Wings of Maak
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Posted - 2009.08.15 13:24:00 -
[214]
url is ok for me ... http://bttl.big-eve.com/Receipt.aspx |
Gho Higyidr
Black Serpent Technologies
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.08.15 18:47:00 -
[215]
http://bttl.big-eve.com/Receipt.aspx
^^This shows what I bought as well.
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Ragga Muffin
Black Serpent Technologies
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.08.15 23:24:00 -
[216]
Gho get off the forums and get back to being our segzy leader... NAOW!
"Of all the things I have lost during my life I miss my mind the most." |
Dylon Xavier
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.16 02:53:00 -
[217]
15 for me plz. isk sent.
Dx |
Zephirz
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.08.16 06:35:00 -
[218]
Would it be possible for an update on how many tickets have been sold so far? :)
also, bump :P
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B Diddy
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Posted - 2009.08.16 07:49:00 -
[219]
10 Purchased
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Percival Diddly
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.16 11:45:00 -
[220]
5 tickets isk sent.
_____________________________________________
no more siggy for me :( |
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Xapharia
WOLIMAZO INC
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Posted - 2009.08.16 12:13:00 -
[221]
Number of tickets sold is listed on This Page
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
I threw some SPAM out of this thread, it was getting old and smelled bad.
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Dylon Xavier
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.16 13:14:00 -
[222]
and click here... right under the 3 titan names.
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Mariko Musashi
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Posted - 2009.08.16 14:20:00 -
[223]
Originally by: TornSoul
If you can't fly a titan:
Then we will, on the winners behalf, hold a fast "firesale" auction, starting at 50B ISK.
Whatever the titan sells for, minus a 10% admin fee, is what the winner will get.
5+ billion admin fee for posting a few words. I should have though about that.
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Sinisterstrike
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Posted - 2009.08.16 18:04:00 -
[224]
tickets bought ... :D
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Resdayn
Amarr
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.16 18:15:00 -
[225]
Edited by: Resdayn on 16/08/2009 18:24:50
Originally by: Mariko Musashi
5+ billion admin fee for posting a few words. I should have though about that.
It's more than that, every one trusts BIG. Hundred of billions, if not trillions worth has been entrusted to them over the last few years
They've worked hard to get the reputation that they have now, which is well deserved, have you? I don't think it would work out for you
I suggest you stay to your NPCing rather than trying to look smart on the forums, when you're actually doing the opposite
Also, did you remove your alliance ticker on purpose, or are you not aware that the OP's alliance is a close ally of yours?
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Dunkin McLoud
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Posted - 2009.08.16 19:29:00 -
[226]
Edited by: Dunkin McLoud on 16/08/2009 19:34:44
Edited by: Dunkin McLoud on 16/08/2009 19:33:35
Originally by: Resdayn
Edited by: Resdayn on 16/08/2009 18:24:50
Originally by: Mariko Musashi
5+ billion admin fee for posting a few words. I should have though about that.
It's more than that, every one trusts BIG. Hundred of billions, if not trillions worth has been entrusted to them over the last few years
They've worked hard to get the reputation that they have now, which is well deserved, have you? I don't think it would work out for you
I suggest you stay to your NPCing rather than trying to look smart on the forums, when you're actually doing the opposite
Also, did you remove your alliance ticker on purpose, or are you not aware that the OP's alliance is a close ally of yours?
theres other 3rd parties that charge less isk then they are. They will let us use other 3rd parties stop replying to posts about the 10%. Posts like this will just spark up the argument again.
Examples: Chribba/Darknesss/FX900X
Also stop trying to make people look ******ed by saying their idoits or that they are trying to appear smarter chances are the kid was messing with you and u have just made your self look like an idoit in attempt to give ur self a giant E-*****.
Free bump and thank you BIG for letting us use other 3rd parties.
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Resdayn
Amarr
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.16 19:48:00 -
[227]
Didn't understand that at all
Garmonation 7 - A pure pvp movie |
hotty72
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Posted - 2009.08.17 01:27:00 -
[228]
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Glafri
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Posted - 2009.08.17 09:32:00 -
[229]
1 ticket bought
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Lea Swiftfoot
Amarr
Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.08.17 14:25:00 -
[230]
bump
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KUNG'FU BOSANAC
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.17 18:29:00 -
[231]
5 tickets bought
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Scarlett2004
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Posted - 2009.08.17 19:44:00 -
[232]
10 tickets bought
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Lea Swiftfoot
Amarr
Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.08.18 01:00:00 -
[233]
bump number 2
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Amadora
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Posted - 2009.08.18 07:34:00 -
[234]
7x
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Cometheapocalypse
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Posted - 2009.08.18 12:54:00 -
[235]
1 bought
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SpiritOne
Amarr
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.18 16:59:00 -
[236]
7xtickets bought
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Suede
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Posted - 2009.08.19 02:30:00 -
[237]
MOAR COWBELL!
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Xelios Xarxes
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Posted - 2009.08.19 11:32:00 -
[238]
Friendly bump.
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CaptianBlack
Minmatar
TITANIC SHIPS
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Posted - 2009.08.19 11:51:00 -
[239]
30m sent..
Use quotes ("") in URL tags or it breaks the layout.-Rauth |
Sgt Dishwasher
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Posted - 2009.08.19 14:05:00 -
[240]
So what happens if the 30k tickets arent sold? Is there a time limit you have set for the sale to run too?
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MR Senator
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Posted - 2009.08.19 14:14:00 -
[241]
3x tickets bought
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Forsake Megellan
V I R I I
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.08.19 14:26:00 -
[242]
10 tickets bought
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sailavir
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Posted - 2009.08.19 17:42:00 -
[243]
bump
buy those tickets up.
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Niclas Solo
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.19 18:43:00 -
[244]
One ticket please :)
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crzymonkey
Caldari
Pure Annihilation
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 00:34:00 -
[245]
Looks sweet, 3 for me please,,iskies sent
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T'Amber
starvald emurlahn
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Posted - 2009.08.20 00:55:00 -
[246]
Almost passed the record ticket sales in eve.
Get in while you can!
-T
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Bonny Lee
Caldari
The Guardian Agency
Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.20 16:12:00 -
[247]
damn why couldnt i resist buying tickets... im not seeing this one getting 30000 tickets in the next months
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Lea Swiftfoot
Amarr
Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:54:00 -
[248]
bump
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Kel Nissa
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:47:00 -
[249]
5 bought
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Aloe Cloveris
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:03:00 -
[250]
Thread needs more bump.
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Oh god how did this get here I am not good with computer |
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Flaskina
Gallente
Fly-By-Night Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:51:00 -
[251]
1 ticket purchased - Thanks!
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techzer0
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:05:00 -
[252]
Tickets pls
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
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Viperella
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:26:00 -
[253]
I bought ticket time ago before go to holidays,now I'm back...
can we plz have updates about how many tickets sold?
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Arlocanta
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:43:00 -
[254]
Tickets are update I think but still will take another 2 months to get to 30k.
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skilzrulz
Gallente
0neZeR0 Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:44:00 -
[255]
HAhahah this lotto is a JOKE. Tornsoul talks about a "GOLD STANDARD" I think Chribba is the "GOLD STANDARD"
Everybody buy into Chribba's more reasonable lotto, better odds to win to.
He doesn't flame his own customers who bought tickets either.
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
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Wamphire
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:45:00 -
[256]
bump! will the tickets ever sell!!
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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:47:00 -
[257]
Originally by: skilzrulz
HAhahah this lotto is a JOKE. Tornsoul talks about a "GOLD STANDARD" I think Chribba is the "GOLD STANDARD"
Everybody buy into Chribba's more reasonable lotto, better odds to win to.
He doesn't flame his own customers who bought tickets either.
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
Reselling T2 BPO's is JOKE as business at 2009...
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lilfella
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Posted - 2009.08.21 13:58:00 -
[258]
Come on....regret buying the tickets now. This lotto is going to take forever. Free bump I guess.
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Inkje
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Posted - 2009.08.21 16:43:00 -
[259]
Bump for publicity! Buy tickets! Five dorrah!
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Mike Reevis
Minmatar
First Slave Corporation
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Posted - 2009.08.21 19:29:00 -
[260]
How many tickets Sold? Is anyone elses tickets showing in the Reciepts on the Website? Like really how long is this going to take?
Guess a refund is out of the question? |
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feilq
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Posted - 2009.08.21 19:46:00 -
[261]
10 bought
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Tamira Thunderstar
Caldari
Madhatters Inc.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:11:00 -
[262]
since i cant see this lotto happen anytime soon i¦d like to get my money back pls. thx
_____________________________
Armies have conquered and fallen in the end,
Kingdoms have risen and buried by sand. |
skilzrulz
Gallente
0neZeR0 Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:39:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Tamira Thunderstar
since i cant see this lotto happen anytime soon i¦d like to get my money back pls. thx
25% ADMIN FEE TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK, SORRY
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Damag
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Posted - 2009.08.21 23:03:00 -
[264]
bump BUY TICKETS I WANNA KNOW IF I WIN ALL 3 OF JUST 2!
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Beast necromancer
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.22 00:13:00 -
[265]
you shouldn't be charging an admin fee for refunds just because your taking forever to sell tickets. also as chribba does on his titan lottos if ticket sales slow he reduces it to 8500 tickets per titan are you going to do the same? or are you going to let this drag out for 6 months. if ppl want there money back i think you should give it to them at no cost as it's not our fault that your tickets are not selling.
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Tamira Thunderstar
Caldari
Madhatters Inc.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 01:08:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Beast necromancer
you shouldn't be charging an admin fee for refunds just because your taking forever to sell tickets. also as chribba does on his titan lottos if ticket sales slow he reduces it to 8500 tickets per titan are you going to do the same? or are you going to let this drag out for 6 months. if ppl want there money back i think you should give it to them at no cost as it's not our fault that your tickets are not selling.
this
_____________________________
Armies have conquered and fallen in the end,
Kingdoms have risen and buried by sand. |
Tzuko1
Minmatar
The All-Seeing Eye
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.22 07:09:00 -
[267]
how can i check the tickets anyway ? if you dont have enough ticket just lotto 2 titan for 17k tictket. but its very annoying you never gona sell that huge amount of tickets.
olß |
Percival Diddly
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.22 07:28:00 -
[268]
Just over 10k tickets sold this is going take a year before the lottery finished
_____________________________________________
no more siggy for me :( |
Arteriamus
Caldari
Hidden Ninja Hideout
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.08.22 09:19:00 -
[269]
is it just me or isnt the receipts page updating?
Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky
The reason you trained Caldari for missions was so you don't have to think. . .don't start now.
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skilzrulz
Gallente
0neZeR0 Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.22 09:25:00 -
[270]
Originally by: Arteriamus
is it just me or isnt the receipts page updating?
Just you.
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Kelly O'Connor
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 09:49:00 -
[271]
I'll go along with this, very poor service and shocking customer service.
As much as it wont matter i shant be doing anything related to BIG ever again.
Kelly
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Kel Nissa
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Posted - 2009.08.22 10:50:00 -
[272]
As always. EVE is full of whiners :)
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DarkAvenger DK
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Posted - 2009.08.22 11:10:00 -
[273]
there is only 10k tickets sold this is going to take a VERY long time :(
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WarheadRex
Caldari
The War-Mongers
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Posted - 2009.08.22 13:15:00 -
[274]
10 tickets please, ISK sent. |
Arlocanta
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Posted - 2009.08.22 15:22:00 -
[275]
Edited by: Arlocanta on 22/08/2009 15:21:58
The tickets sold isn't updating fix it and it isn't me so their are more than just 10120 tickets sold I tested it I bought some more tickets and still nothing fix the problem using the admin fees and such your getting thank you.
Also bump. |
T'Amber
Gallente
starvald emurlahn
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Posted - 2009.08.22 19:39:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Arlocanta
Edited by: Arlocanta on 22/08/2009 15:21:58
The tickets sold isn't updating fix it and it isn't me so their are more than just 10120 tickets sold I tested it I bought some more tickets and still nothing fix the problem using the admin fees and such your getting thank you.
Also bump.
Same thing happened with my lotto website with the api update and ticket count. The number up on the website is less than what is sold, if the people who have posted have bought tickets like they said.
This was due to the long patch with my site, so I am assuming it is the same with Bigs.
Also bump.
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SCORPY
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:54:00 -
[277]
Friendly bump.
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Brutore
Shadow Incursion
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 03:01:00 -
[278]
I bought 2 tickets on the 20th sending BIG Games 20m with the reason "Titan" and after that i sent 10m to enter the normal BIG lottery. But on the lottery receipt page is shows that half of the 20m for the titan lotto was a donation and the other half was used for the normal BIG lotto and the 10m I sent for the normal BIG lotto was voided.
Can someone from BIG fix this please?
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SCORPY
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Posted - 2009.08.23 06:35:00 -
[279]
Edited by: SCORPY on 23/08/2009 06:41:13
Edited by: SCORPY on 23/08/2009 06:38:09
Hi, my last Triple Titan purchase went on the normal lotto instead of the Titan lotto even though I included the proper reasoning
Date - Amount - Donation 2009-8-22 14:24 - 10,000 - 40,000
Could you fix those 5 please.
I've bought tickets for the normal lotto but these are not them.
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Kel Nissa
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:08:00 -
[280]
My 5 tickets also went to the normal lottery. (20.8.2009 22:46)
I guess that the last patch broke something and all titan tickets go to the normal lottery by accident.
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Nguyen Phred
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:33:00 -
[281]
This has also happened to me. My receipt shows my money went to the normal lottery, not the titan. Even though I did everything I was supposed to.
Originally by: Kel Nissa
As always. EVE is full of whiners :)
Originally by: Kel Nissa
My 5 tickets also went to the normal lottery. (20.8.2009 22:46)
Then why don't YOU STFU |
Kel Nissa
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:48:00 -
[282]
Quote:
Then why don't YOU STFU
What a constructive post.
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ogaiT nebuR
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:02:00 -
[283]
Worst lotto ever..
Taking forever, full of issues/complications wich has not had a single response from BIG yet.. what a joke!
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T'Amber
Gallente
starvald emurlahn
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:08:00 -
[284]
Originally by: ogaiT nebuR
Worst lotto ever..
Taking forever, full of issues/complications wich has not had a single response from BIG yet.. what a joke!
This is a pretty big lotto tbh i would expect it to take some time, I'm sure they are working on the tick update issues caused by the patch update the other day.
Although it would be good to know if we can still win something if the ticket sales are reached
-T
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Lea Swiftfoot
Amarr
Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:45:00 -
[285]
bump
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Mystical Dawn
Minmatar
Nomadic Angels
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:49:00 -
[286]
WTG TornSoul!
Sad that you couldn't pull off the whole amount, but 100 B is ok
I lost my bet, I figured that you could atleast pull off 200... 
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Miss Africa
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Posted - 2009.08.23 22:28:00 -
[287]
Come on!
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 22:49:00 -
[288]
the tickets amount aint updating for me :( whats going on
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Dylon Xavier
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 23:00:00 -
[289]
Originally by: TornSoul
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The winners will be found via the same public method as has always been used with the BIG Lottery.
Check the BIG Lottery website for details.
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So if we're not in the channel when you draw, we can't win????? |
mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 23:32:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Dylon Xavier
Edited by: Dylon Xavier on 23/08/2009 23:07:22
Originally by: TornSoul
---
The winners will be found via the same public method as has always been used with the BIG Lottery.
Check the BIG Lottery website for details.
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So if we're not in the channel when you draw, we can't win?????
also, the 100m i sent on 2009.08.21 22:59 hasn't posted yet...?
is this going to be fixed? 48 hours now.
Dx
i think its just be in channel if u wana see the drawing im sure they will post winners on forums
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Miss Boxphet
Setenta Corp
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.24 05:57:00 -
[291]
5 here, isk sent.
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Xelios Xarxes
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Posted - 2009.08.24 13:23:00 -
[292]
Hellooo any updates on all the errors?
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Felton Fundenberger
Caldari
Rosa Alba
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.24 13:33:00 -
[293]
On the receipt page, how can you tell to witch lotto your isk has went?
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Kel Nissa
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Posted - 2009.08.24 17:20:00 -
[294]
Quote:
On the receipt page, how can you tell to witch lotto your isk has went?
There are 2 different receipt sites.
One for the big titan lottery and one for the frequently occouring standard lottery.
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ogaiT nebuR
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Posted - 2009.08.24 18:39:00 -
[295]
So how much longer do ppl need to wait to get any feedback from BIG?
I would advise everyone to not send anymore isk, as this is starting to sound fishy.
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Dylon Xavier
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 18:55:00 -
[296]
i hate to say it, but i agree. BIG has a good history with the lottery. Be a shame to ruin that reputation just because no one wants to tell us what's going on.
Seems to me like they should offer refunds, and do this as 3 seperate titan lotto's. And just for the record, i trust 'em enough that i've gotten 350m already, and planned to buy a few more tickets. But can't do it now, since there seems to be no communications at all.
Just my opinion.
Dx |
Alanee'a Unakarakta
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Posted - 2009.08.24 19:07:00 -
[297]
There is always a possibility that something happened to him in IRL
If it was a long planned scam, im ok with that. As i kissed my ISK goodbye, when i sent em.
The #164 lotterie draw was held today(?), so if it did, then its fishy.
.a
------------------ - - - -_^
send me eve-related links, and make ISK'ies @
www.3v3-online.com
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Xelios Xarxes
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Posted - 2009.08.24 19:10:00 -
[298]
If they were going to scam you'd think they'd wait til the ticket count was more toward 300b. I know BIG has a good history, but still, with no communication and the tickets now going to the wrong receipt page I agree to stop buying tickets for now.
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MaVla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.08.24 20:34:00 -
[299]
This isn't a scam, if you have had dealings with BIG and TornSoul you will know that the lines of communication have never been that good. The whole BMBE proved that years ago. Torn doesn't have the best approach to public relations but a scammer he is not.
MaVla
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Kel Nissa
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Posted - 2009.08.24 20:42:00 -
[300]
Give them some time to fix the script bug :)
Hey maybe he is not even aware of that. I mean to be honest - its not his full time real live job. Maybe the victim is some days on vacation ^^
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Alanee'a Unakarakta
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Posted - 2009.08.24 20:58:00 -
[301]
Edited by: Alanee''a Unakarakta on 24/08/2009 21:00:30
the lottery draw was held an hour ago, one day late, as
he had IRl thingys.
he told that after the draw , he'll response here.
thats current info, i have no doubts.
.a
------------------ - - - -_^
send me eve-related links, and make ISK'ies @
www.3v3-online.com
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.24 22:51:00 -
[302]
My apologies for the delayed response.
RL has kept me away from EVE for a bit(*)
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As a gesture of goodwill/apology for the late response or whatever you wan't to call it, I'm going to waiver the firesale fee - aka any firesale will be done gratis.
Not much else I can do atm...
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RE: BTTL receipt page not updating
Whoops DB script error...
Resulting in any BTTL tickets bought on or after the 20th getting marked as BIG Lottery tickets instead.
This has now been fixed.
Aka all wrongly marked purchases has been reverted to what they should be (Ie. BTTL tickets instead of BIG Lottery tickets) - and the problem should not arise again.
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RE: BTTL ticket sales slowing down.
I'm really at a loss about what to do about this - and a bit surprised (and sad) about it as well.
I do know one thing though - No matter *what* I do (or not) someone will be unhappy and I'll recive alot of flack for it.
That is to say, I'm interested in finding a solution that will leave most people happy - And that I'm not particular biased as to what that solution will be, as I'll get shouted at regardless.
Some stats:
date tickets
6 677
7 1.142
8 706
9 615
10 2.869
11 1.949
12 840
13 303
14 242
15 108
16 237
17 257
18 49
19 126
20 36
21 93
22 63
23 47
24 58
total 10.417
Over the last week on average 67 tickets have sold per day.
There is 30.000 - 10.417 = 19.583 tickets yet to be sold.
That's 19.583 / 67 = 192 days = 10 months until the last ticket have sold.
I doubt many would like to wait that long...
So what to do?
I'm all ear for suggestions.
I would like to point out, that if no consensus can be found, I will *have to* stick with the current rules - ie. the draw will be held when all 30K tickes have sold.
So try and be reasonable.
Perhaps, and this is just a suggestion, I can make an ingame poll (for those with tickets) listing some of the suggestions made here.
The trouble is ofc that not all ticket holders will ever see that poll - nor this post...
But anyhow - Fire away.
(*)
I'm currently painting my entire apartment - I now recall why it is I don't like painting... 
And it is taking *far far* longer than expected...
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Chirinako
Caldari
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.24 22:55:00 -
[303]
1 suggestion.
take the first 10,000 tickets and 1 titan and hold a lottery, and do the next 2 the same. You're likely to sell more tickets quicker if there are multiple lotteries, there aren't many over 10,000 justnow so move the ones sold AFTER 10k to the next lottery. This way, the ppl that have bought tickets already will be satisfied.
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 22:58:00 -
[304]
Edited by: mentalmackem on 24/08/2009 22:59:24
Originally by: TornSoul
My apologies for the delayed response.
RL has kept me away from EVE for a bit(*)
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As a gesture of goodwill/apology for the late response or whatever you wan't to call it, I'm going to waiver the firesale fee - aka any firesale will be done gratis.
Not much else I can do atm...
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RE: BTTL receipt page not updating
Whoops DB script error...
Resulting in any BTTL tickets bought on or after the 20th getting marked as BIG Lottery tickets instead.
This has now been fixed.
Aka all wrongly marked purchases has been reverted to what they should be (Ie. BTTL tickets instead of BIG Lottery tickets) - and the problem should not arise again.
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RE: BTTL ticket sales slowing down.
I'm really at a loss about what to do about this - and a bit surprised (and sad) about it as well.
I do know one thing though - No matter *what* I do (or not) someone will be unhappy and I'll recive alot of flack for it.
That is to say, I'm interested in finding a solution that will leave most people happy - And that I'm not particular biased as to what that solution will be, as I'll get shouted at regardless.
Some stats:
date tickets
6 677
7 1.142
8 706
9 615
10 2.869
11 1.949
12 840
13 303
14 242
15 108
16 237
17 257
18 49
19 126
20 36
21 93
22 63
23 47
24 58
total 10.417
Over the last week on average 67 tickets have sold per day.
There is 30.000 - 10.417 = 19.583 tickets yet to be sold.
That's 19.583 / 67 = 192 days = 10 months until the last ticket have sold.
I doubt many would like to wait that long...
So what to do?
I'm all ear for suggestions.
I would like to point out, that if no consensus can be found, I will *have to* stick with the current rules - ie. the draw will be held when all 30K tickes have sold.
So try and be reasonable.
Perhaps, and this is just a suggestion, I can make an ingame poll (for those with tickets) listing some of the suggestions made here.
The trouble is ofc that not all ticket holders will ever see that poll - nor this post...
But anyhow - Fire away.
(*)
I'm currently painting my entire apartment - I now recall why it is I don't like painting...
And it is taking *far far* longer than expected...
Hold 3 lottos with 10k tickets each instead of one huge lotto, for example 1000 have now sold so draw it and give away one titan, then reset ticket count and sell another 10000tickets in a week or so for a second titan, and then a few weeks after that do the third and final titan, i dont see how u wull sell 30k tickets i think most people that buy into the lottos have already bought into this one by now
*edit: damn u Chirinako thats my idea :(
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Tanith YarnDemon
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Posted - 2009.08.24 23:02:00 -
[305]
If this lottery was about a single titan, I wouldn't be the least bit of interested. If you want that kind of action, go with Chribbas lotteries. I'm here because I find it amusing with the extreme winnings 3 titans offer.
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 23:07:00 -
[306]
Originally by: Tanith YarnDemon
If this lottery was about a single titan, I wouldn't be the least bit of interested. If you want that kind of action, go with Chribbas lotteries. I'm here because I find it amusing with the extreme winnings 3 titans offer.
so your willing to wait the nearly 11months to see if all tickets sell, to find out that half people that bought tickets have quit the game so they need to sell more tickets
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Felton Fundenberger
Caldari
Rosa Alba
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.24 23:07:00 -
[307]
Keep in mind that sold tickets are valid for 3 lottos. I like the idea of getting rid of the titans one by one. but according to rules, each sold tiket is valid for all three titans.
So have one lotto now, at 10k + tickets, get rid of one titan. People see that you succesfully did that, then they will buy more tickets. then like previous 2 posters stated, at 20k and at 30k....
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Kel Nissa
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Posted - 2009.08.24 23:12:00 -
[308]
Edited by: Kel Nissa on 24/08/2009 23:13:31
Its simple: Get the peoples trust back. (You are already on track there)
And convince them that its their own interest to find other players willing to participate the lottery :)
Without enough players -> 6 month to wait. So its really the best interest of all players to find more participants.
Its all about marketing :)
Create a sig for participants - probably this will draw some attention.
Edit:
Quote:
If this lottery was about a single titan, I wouldn't be the least bit of interested.
This!
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.24 23:18:00 -
[309]
Originally by: Kel Nissa
Its all about marketing :)
Very true.
Unfortunatly it's quite limited what can be done...
Originally by: Kel Nissa
Create a sig for participants - probably this will draw some attention.
Not a bad idea really - Only I doubt many would be willing to actually change their current sigs...
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Kel Nissa
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Posted - 2009.08.24 23:25:00 -
[310]
Quote:
Unfortunatly it's quite limited what can be done...
Lets guess: Whining and whining like most players start to do here? :)
Its really easy to find ways when you are interested into finding a way.
If the sig is a problem - build a small picture acting as temporary overlay icon. -> Problem solved.
Make the lotterey even bigger. Draw players attention by the epic goal of being part of eves hugest lottery or something like that.
What was the hugest one till now? :)
2 Ideas after 30 seconds ..
Switch on your brain guys - i guess that there are plenty of ideas available.
Or is it a lie that EVEs community is tougher then other game communities?
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Felton Fundenberger
Caldari
Rosa Alba
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.24 23:29:00 -
[311]
I have no worries about my isk or success of this lotto. How much bigger you can make this kind of lotto? i though this is THE biggest.
All ready some good ideas here and nice gesture from TornSoul about forgeting admin fee for fire sale. That alone should get some more people to buy tickets.
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billybobob
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Posted - 2009.08.24 23:37:00 -
[312]
I would hold the raffle with the tickets purchase and give 85-90% of the total pot to the winner.
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DarkOmegaD
Airhawk Enterprizes
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Posted - 2009.08.25 00:27:00 -
[313]
Edited by: DarkOmegaD on 25/08/2009 00:27:50
I am pretty surprised tickets didn't sell faster myself, could be 30k is just to high of a goal, could also be that there are a number of lotteries going right now and that some people only do one at a time. I think the option that would please the most people would be to hold the lottery with 10k tickets for 1 titan right now then next one at the next 10k and so on. Won't please everyone but you'll make more happy then not. I would still buy more tickets for the next lotto, dunno bout others tho.
In the end **** happens get over it and move on
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Nguyen Phred
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Posted - 2009.08.25 05:11:00 -
[314]
The suggestion to hold each drawing per 10000 tickets is imminently reasonable. However, since I came in just past the 10000 mark, that makes me unhappy. Feeling selfish, I propose doing exactly that, but refunding the money to all of us who bought tickets after 10000. Then, do each Titan lottery separately. Most objectives accomplished: early participants rewarded with the chance at a titan NOW; late participants don't have to wait 3 months; and the slip in trust is rectified.
The only hitch is the "good for all three drawings part." It doesn't seem fair that early participants get tickets that are good for all three lotteries. If we were to follow the letter of the lottery, then my second round tickets would be good for a lottery drawing that already occurred. Clearly, nonsense. That's the one thing that could be waived while still doing a pretty good job of keeping everyone else happy. |
Valeronx
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 05:29:00 -
[315]
Originally by: Chirinako
1 suggestion.
take the first 10,000 tickets and 1 titan and hold a lottery, and do the next 2 the same. You're likely to sell more tickets quicker if there are multiple lotteries, there aren't many over 10,000 justnow so move the ones sold AFTER 10k to the next lottery. This way, the ppl that have bought tickets already will be satisfied.
This sounds good to me.
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Beast necromancer
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.25 07:43:00 -
[316]
as chribba has just done with his last titan lotto reduce the tickets required, he had his set at 8500-10000 tickets and did the draw at 8500 tickets as the sales slowed. eg. 3 x 8500=25500 tickets to draw for all 3 titans this increases peoples chances as a good will thing and just charge 5bil as a flat fee for the firesale im sure this would encourage more people to buy tickets.
just my 2 cents
Beast
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Watnao
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Posted - 2009.08.25 11:58:00 -
[317]
Refund the tickets (because some people only bought them to have a shot at *three* titans), then split up into new lotteries, one titan at a time. This seems to me to be the most fair method.
I doubt this will ever sell 30k tickets.
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SCORPY
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:37:00 -
[318]
Edited by: SCORPY on 25/08/2009 12:39:00
That would be a lot of unnecessary work to refund everything. The best thing to do would be to hold the lottery for the first titan and refund anything purchased after the initial 10k tickets, then hold the others separately as well. I seriously doubt anyone purchased a ticket only because they were expecting to win all three titans.
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Yoyo Hobo
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:40:00 -
[319]
Refund the tickets as its obvious the original lotto ( 30k tickets, 3 titans ) is now never going to be reached.
Then re-think how to solve the problem and try again.
TBH best thing todo would be up the price and lower the ticket count if a certain " profit " needs to be reached
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DeviKun
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Posted - 2009.08.25 14:32:00 -
[320]
Why cant u do as chribba does and let the titans go @ 25000 tickets assuming u get the titans @80B (appx forum price) or less your still makeing 10 bill profit instead of the 60 bil profit which is probabley a bit greedy.....
i think once people see that your do this they might start to buy more as this is an encouragement as there is more chance for them to win also maybe throw in some runner up prizes battleships carriers or what not
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Arlocanta
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Posted - 2009.08.25 15:50:00 -
[321]
Originally by: DeviKun
Why cant u do as chribba does and let the titans go @ 25000 tickets assuming u get the titans @80B (appx forum price) or less your still makeing 10 bill profit instead of the 60 bil profit which is probabley a bit greedy.....
i think once people see that your do this they might start to buy more as this is an encouragement as there is more chance for them to win also maybe throw in some runner up prizes battleships carriers or what not
I like this idea because I bought tickets like most others here for the chance of getting 3 titans with one ticket now that is very difficult if you do change to something like this then I would then buy more tickets myself and it would get more ppl to buy tickets and it wouldn't take 6 months. Splitting up the lotto into three I would dislike I do understand that it would get the lotto done and the other 2 done as well guickly but thing is how long would it take for the other 20k tickets in intervals of 10k to be sold not 6 months but at least 3 the devikun plan is a viable plan in witch the three titans would be then lottoed in one go at the same amount of time as three diffrent lottos. Or at a quicker time.
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Jack Sparroxx
Honour Bound
Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.08.25 16:01:00 -
[322]
well sales have dropped to a near nothing. Thats a fact.
And all the WUUUHHHAAAA about a titan lottery is all over. draw the first titan on the first 10.000 tickets. Relanch the lottery for the next titan, so on and so forth.
Or simply cancel the last two titans and refund the tickets sold after the first 10.000 tickets. But more then any thing, get it sorted asap before people will lose trust in you name and thus it will hurt your buisness
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Oharah
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Posted - 2009.08.25 16:42:00 -
[323]
Whatever happened to the idea of coming through on your original promise? You simply overestimated the demand for your product. So take it like a real man and give a concrete closing day on your lottery. Then when that day has come draw for the three titans regardless of how many tickets sold. Besides I believe many people are seeing that this lottery is going to slow so they are not buying. If You tell people you are going to make the drawing in one month regardless many more people will buy tickets. You took a risk at making this lottery, well I have news it looks like it failed. Finish the loto and move on. Take it like a man, learn from your mistake and donÆt do it again.
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Togae Alus
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.25 16:56:00 -
[324]
well what we need is for everyone to promote the raffle
i posted it on my corp kb
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ShadowandLight
Amarr
Hammer Of Light
Praetorian Guards.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 17:59:00 -
[325]
make a sig TS, ill rock it :)
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 18:40:00 -
[326]
tbh now i would seriously refund all tickets and start the lotto again for 1 titan at a time, lot of admin work but atm your getting alot of mad people who dont wana wait 11 months or w/e for it to sell and another lot of mad people who wont stand for anything but the drawing of all 3 tickets
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DennyUK
Dark-Evolution
The Drift.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 18:52:00 -
[327]
Quote:
Whatever happened to the idea of coming through on your original promise? You simply overestimated the demand for your product. So take it like a real man and give a concrete closing day on your lottery. Then when that day has come draw for the three titans regardless of how many tickets sold. Besides I believe many people are seeing that this lottery is going to slow so they are not buying. If You tell people you are going to make the drawing in one month regardless many more people will buy tickets. You took a risk at making this lottery, well I have news it looks like it failed. Finish the loto and move on. Take it like a man, learn from your mistake and donÆt do it again.
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Death'Scythe
Cool Guys Don't Look at Explosions
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.08.25 21:45:00 -
[328]
Personaly i only bought 1ticket so i dont really care lol,
but refunding all would be best option instead of waiting 11months or whatever.
Or come up with a lottery that involves the peoples tickets and they win a sum of cash, something like that.
Anyways gl lol
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T'Amber
Gallente
starvald emurlahn
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:13:00 -
[329]
Hi, I suggest:
1) drawing for 3 places and giving out an equal share of isk generated from sales minus your fees.
2) draw for one titan and then sharing the left over pot with the 2nd and 3rd winners minus your fees.
3) draw for one titan and give the leftover tickets entries into one of your standard lottos minus your fees.
Although some people have bought into the lotto because there was three Titans, all the above options drastically raise peoples chance of winning.
There is a massive saturation on the market and everyone is being effected by it (Lottery Providers)
-T'amber
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Liberal Sparrow
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.26 01:56:00 -
[330]
50mil sent, after get receipt i'll buy 5 more
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Ewan Heaven
Superior Research
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Posted - 2009.08.26 02:13:00 -
[331]
friendly bump
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Ubijalec
Citizens of Atlantis
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:03:00 -
[332]
My two cent:
1. Run a draw now (1 titan) with the tickets you have.
2. Keep the same ticket pool from the first draw and keep the lotto open for people to keep buying tickets.
3. Set a min/max for the next draw. Example: 17000 - 20000 tickets and have a second draw.
4. For the last draw maybe add a few extra prizes to drum up extra support and when you reach 25500 - 30000 tickets you run the final draw.
---In doing this people still have the chance of winning 3 titan's as you conduct draw's in the certain increments people will maintain support and the last draw with the extra prizes could be like the finally. Like a fireworks display. :)
Unless I'm missing something this is common sense.
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Sylvia Bradwick
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:57:00 -
[333]
My idea: Have a portion of the next normal BIG lottery pay out as tickets to this lottery -- instead of offering X million for second and third place, offer X / 10 tickets to this lottery. It might not be a lot, but it wouldn't be terrible. Other than that, I think you'd have to refund the purchases.
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Boreas Valiant
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.26 11:54:00 -
[334]
Maybe a new marketing campaign, after all, not everyone see what is going on the forum.
I just have notice about this lottery throug the EVE RSS, so...
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Zubasar
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Posted - 2009.08.26 14:27:00 -
[335]
Edited by: Zubasar on 26/08/2009 14:27:44
Originally by: Ubijalec
My two cent:
1. Run a draw now (1 titan) with the tickets you have.
2. Keep the same ticket pool from the first draw and keep the lotto open for people to keep buying tickets.
3. Set a min/max for the next draw. Example: 17000 - 20000 tickets and have a second draw.
4. For the last draw maybe add a few extra prizes to drum up extra support and when you reach 25500 - 30000 tickets you run the final draw.
---In doing this people still have the chance of winning 3 titan's as you conduct draw's in the certain increments people will maintain support and the last draw with the extra prizes could be like the finally. Like a fireworks display. :)
Unless I'm missing something this is common sense.
this sounds like a good viable option...
only problem is that only the people that have tickets now actually have a shot at 3 titans... people who buyin later have an option of 2 or 1 titan(s)...
but that's not a problem if you mention this in the sales...
promotion is the big key in this... seeing the sales going slow is very bad for sales and with all the other lotteries, people will buy tickets in those since they are going faster...
i'd also lower the minimum nr of tickets for the drwas a bit, so the people get a feeling it's going faster...
Zubs
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Madmartigan
Gallente
Helljumpers
Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.08.26 16:12:00 -
[336]
isk sent for 5 tickets
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Soldur
Helljumpers
Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.08.26 16:14:00 -
[337]
5 tickets bought me hopes i wins
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Lea Swiftfoot
Amarr
Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.08.26 20:12:00 -
[338]
bump
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.26 23:20:00 -
[339]
I'd settle for 1 Titan and one or two smaller prizes (Dread/Carrier?) now rather than waiting months.
Anyone claiming that's unfair because they don't have a chance at winning 3 Titans is out of their mind.
1/30000 * 1/30000 * 1/30000 = 0; it's just not gonna happen. You're highly unlikely to win even one prize, never mind winning again and again. I feel safe to say, even though someone is gonna win a prize, it won't be you. (Now someone is gonna quote me on this and say I was wrong, but thousands could quote me and say I was right )
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Ragga Muffin
Black Serpent Technologies
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 03:30:00 -
[340]
this thing going yet or what, getting very bored waiting :)
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URDEAD2ME
Black.Wind
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Posted - 2009.08.27 05:23:00 -
[341]
1 for me ... im poor :( |
MonwrathDisortium
Incarnation of Evil
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:33:00 -
[342]
2 fo me, iskies sent
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Liberal Sparrow
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.27 08:25:00 -
[343]
How can I see my receipt?
Can't see in 'http://bttl.big-eve.com/Receipt.aspx'
There are written in 'You need to be logged into EVE in order to check your ticket purchases'
I sent 50mil to Big Games yesterday
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quygen
Minmatar
Acting Neutral
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Posted - 2009.08.27 10:44:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Liberal Sparrow
How can I see my receipt?
Can't see in 'http://bttl.big-eve.com/Receipt.aspx'
There are written in 'You need to be logged into EVE in order to check your ticket purchases'
I sent 50mil to Big Games yesterday
You are giving the answer yourself, try the same you did, only use the in-game browser.
Q
Please resize your sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 - Mitnal
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Oghma Grianainech
Minmatar
Peces Of Eighte
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.08.27 11:00:00 -
[345]
So wtf is going on with the draw on, we wait till all 30k are sold and does the draw just go ahead or is BIG going rip us big one ?
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E8400
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Posted - 2009.08.27 11:40:00 -
[346]
heh Simple solution cut profits down to a reasonable size, I dunno bout the rest of you. But BIG is making more then 20billion isk off of each one of these things!! That is IF he bought them. Building them profit margin is even higher!!
Sorry but these lotteries are no diffrent from any other scam... You know the ones... You pay 100m isk for something that costs 50m is or so.
Atleast the normal scams are transparent... 1 Person wins the other person loses. This lets see ohh 3 people might win but 29997 will lose.
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Oghma Grianainech
Minmatar
Peces Of Eighte
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.08.27 11:45:00 -
[347]
Originally by: E8400
heh Simple solution cut profits down to a reasonable size, I dunno bout the rest of you. But BIG is making more then 20billion isk off of each one of these things!! That is IF he bought them. Building them profit margin is even higher!!
Sorry but these lotteries are no diffrent from any other scam... You know the ones... You pay 100m isk for something that costs 50m is or so.
Atleast the normal scams are transparent... 1 Person wins the other person loses. This lets see ohh 3 people might win but 29997 will lose.
I concur, cut your profits and do this one for a insane fame reward.
You still come out on top.
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Zubasar
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Posted - 2009.08.27 12:07:00 -
[348]
Edited by: Zubasar on 27/08/2009 12:08:36
a good option is doing the draw now for 2 of the three titans...
this way everyone who has a ticket will be happy since there chances at a titan improved and they won't have to wait till christmas for the draw...
you'll have to maybe cut a small loss, but it's really good promotion for your name if you do it with a BIG announcement ;)
lesson learned and next time try something different, cause this didn't really work out...
with the generousity shown in this lottery(if you do the draw with 2 titans or give out some nice extra prices or something) people will buy tickets faster in your next one...
Zubs
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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:57:00 -
[349]
Well TornSoul decide or refund all ISK... Or this will be just epic fail...
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T'Amber
Gallente
starvald emurlahn
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:11:00 -
[350]
Edited by: T''Amber on 27/08/2009 17:11:25
Originally by: Mova B
Well TornSoul decide or refund all ISK... Or this will be just epic fail...
I think this can be easily remedied.
It is not just BIG that is feeling the pinch, with so many lotteries the market has been saturated.
Drawing 3 winners for isk prizes would be fair, and still a great prize.
Regarding the profit comment, there is alot of work involved in organising lotteries, I'm can't really comment for Torn, but for mine i was on the computer every second of the day for almost 3 weeks making sure everything was working, and doing all the admin.
Although the logistics of this lotto is probably less, his time should still be worth something and I would not begrudge him making some isk.
*EDIT: And refunding all the isk... 10,000 tickets would take longer than a week to refund probably lols!
-T'amber
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:35:00 -
[351]
we have had no word from BIG for 3 days again now, the people with tickets are suggesting loads of ideas BIG just seem to not want to take any of them up
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Oghma Grianainech
Minmatar
Peces Of Eighte
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:43:00 -
[352]
Originally by: T'Amber
Edited by: T''Amber on 27/08/2009 17:11:25
Originally by: Mova B
Well TornSoul decide or refund all ISK... Or this will be just epic fail...
I think this can be easily remedied.
It is not just BIG that is feeling the pinch, with so many lotteries the market has been saturated.
Drawing 3 winners for isk prizes would be fair, and still a great prize.
Regarding the profit comment, there is alot of work involved in organising lotteries, I'm can't really comment for Torn, but for mine i was on the computer every second of the day for almost 3 weeks making sure everything was working, and doing all the admin.
Although the logistics of this lotto is probably less, his time should still be worth something and I would not begrudge him making some isk.
*EDIT: And refunding all the isk... 10,000 tickets would take longer than a week to refund probably lols!
-T'amber
What isk prize ? I paid for a 3 titan lottery not some crappy isk lucky draw.
And time spend well don't try and pull something off if you don't have time for it.
And as for refunding the isk, that's just suicide cause nobody will buy another BIG lottery then.
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Kel Nissa
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:45:00 -
[353]
Quote:
EDIT: And refunding all the isk... 10,000 tickets would take longer than a week to refund probably lols!
Actual ticket amount takes estimated 6h 30min to refund. (Thats just boring copy paste action from a excel sheet into eves interface + pressing the necessary buttons including the initial creation of the excel sheet.)
Base asumption: Persons did not purchase several time. If some of them bought tickets over time, the time will be reduced. (the 2350 buyers might collaps to less)
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 20:20:00 -
[354]
tbh, i still want to stay at the chance to win 3 Titans with one Ticket, because that was it what made this lottery interesting. I don't really care how long it needs. I mean it's summer, thousands of eve players aren't not as much on as usual, so they don't even know this lottery exists.
I really don't want to see this lottery failing...
And tbh, 30.000 Tickets are a joke for so much Eve players. I really don't get why this Tickets are not all sold out... 
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steave435
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.27 20:59:00 -
[355]
well, 1 titan would only match 10k tickets, 2 titans would put you at a loss compared to just selling them, so maybe 1 titan + 2 MS? Still 3 prizes, and while it isn't 3 titans, the chance of winning something is much higher, and you shouldn't make a loss. Alternatively, 4 prizes, 1 titan, 1 mom, 1 dread and 1 carrier, would give you a profit rather then breaking even (at buy costs), and the even more increased chance to win makes up for there only being 2 supercaps.
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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:33:00 -
[356]
It doesn't matter, with this speed the 30k tickets will be sold at next year, there is over 100 B ISK right now standing without any use. Draw one titan, pull the two others out.
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T'Amber
Gallente
starvald emurlahn
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Posted - 2009.08.28 05:03:00 -
[357]
Originally by: Kel Nissa
Quote:
EDIT: And refunding all the isk... 10,000 tickets would take longer than a week to refund probably lols!
Actual ticket amount takes estimated 6h 30min to refund. (Thats just boring copy paste action from a excel sheet into eves interface + pressing the necessary buttons including the initial creation of the excel sheet.)
Base asumption: Persons did not purchase several time. If some of them bought tickets over time, the time will be reduced. (the 2350 buyers might collaps to less)
Hmm, Took me about 5hours to double check wallet, refund and evemail all the failed ticket purchases for Ships of Eve #2 lottery, and that was less than 15bils worth of tickets. Although the wallet checking was most of this time as there were hundreds of pages to go though.
T
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Haley Komet
Z Score Rising
Indecisive Certainty
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Posted - 2009.08.28 08:06:00 -
[358]
I paid for a 3 Titan Lotto and am willing to wait the distance. If people stopped trolling the forums and promoted the lotto in there bio maybe more tickets will be sold. I'm sure BIG is looking at all comments and will provide a solution. My 2 pennies
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Lunewraith
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.08.28 12:26:00 -
[359]
I'm cool with a single prize of one titan or the option to pay out 3 equal ISK prizes. You people expecting that all three Titans are still going to lotto are delusional. Its going to take months, possibly the remainder of the year before the auction sells enogh tickets to justify the costs incurred. Then you will never see another auction of a similar nature again.
If you can't be reasonable and seek a reasonable alternative (many of such in this thread) ask for a refund and move on. I'm willing to stay in as the payout is still lucrative compared to the cost of entry. I would just like to see some winnings before the end of the decade.
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Soldur
Helljumpers
Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.08.28 14:22:00 -
[360]
for those complaining you know what this lottery was when you put your money in you know it was 30k tickets stop crying if u didn't want to wait you should have went with another lottery.
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.28 14:27:00 -
[361]
for all those crying they only paid for the three titans stop crying, you have the same chance of winning when theres one titan as u did when there was 3!!
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Agrilad
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Posted - 2009.08.28 15:31:00 -
[362]
Well I just bought another 10 tickets. Puts me at 20 tickets. Wish my accidental purchase of 10 through corp would count. Then it would be 30.
Just think. If everyone that had already purchased tickets just purchased another set of them, the lottery would be coming close to being done.
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Ravager3k
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Posted - 2009.08.28 19:49:00 -
[363]
Originally by: Agrilad
Well I just bought another 10 tickets. Puts me at 20 tickets. Wish my accidental purchase of 10 through corp would count. Then it would be 30.
Just think. If everyone that had already purchased tickets just purchased another set of them, the lottery would be coming close to being done.
Good idea, ill buy 2 more.
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Mia Archer
Amarr
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.28 20:11:00 -
[364]
Originally by: mentalmackem
for all those crying they only paid for the three titans stop crying, you have the same chance of winning when theres one titan as u did when there was 3!!
you failed math didnt you
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Avon Meister
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Posted - 2009.08.28 20:29:00 -
[365]
BIG have created a lottery that's simply too big. The only options imo are either everybody waits the distance for 30k tickets to be sold or you sell the titans and give out isk prizes. Waiting the distance is the fairest option as you're sticking to the published rules but if either you (BIG) or the majority of the punters in this thread prefer that the lottery be settled sooner rather than months later, isk prizes are the next fairest option.
Compromises somewhere between those two options seem counter productive - the lottery will just drag on if you do something like hold the first titan draw, wait for more sales, do another, blah blah...
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Fassn
Amarr
Mercurialis Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.29 03:26:00 -
[366]
Posted - 2009.08.06 18:25:00
Now - 2009.08.28 23:52 10.546 4
End - ?
I like big and all but I don't believe this lotto will end until like November .
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steave435
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.29 04:04:00 -
[367]
Originally by: Fassn
Posted - 2009.08.06 18:25:00
Now - 2009.08.28 23:52 10.546 4
End - ?
I like big and all but I don't believe this lotto will end until like November .
I'd say you're being very optimistic. Go with the 1 titan (with a few extra small prizes) and refund people not happy with it, give them 24-48 hours or something to request one before doing the draw.
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SOLARISPRIME
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Posted - 2009.08.29 04:40:00 -
[368]
Originally by: Ubijalec
My two cent:
1. Run a draw now (1 titan) with the tickets you have.
2. Keep the same ticket pool from the first draw and keep the lotto open for people to keep buying tickets.
3. Set a min/max for the next draw. Example: 17000 - 20000 tickets and have a second draw.
4. For the last draw maybe add a few extra prizes to drum up extra support and when you reach 25500 - 30000 tickets you run the final draw.
---In doing this people still have the chance of winning 3 titan's as you conduct draw's in the certain increments people will maintain support and the last draw with the extra prizes could be like the finally. Like a fireworks display. :)
Unless I'm missing something this is common sense.
Best option :)
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Aloe Cloveris
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.30 04:58:00 -
[369]
When I sent my 30m, I knew I stood a snowball's chance in hell of seeing a titan or two or three come of it - that 30m was essentially a write-off that might've resulted in a (reallyreally) pleasant surprise. Whatever BIG does, I trust them to address this fairly.
How's this:
Draw 1 - Titan (one winner)
Draw 2 - 2 or 3 Carriers (multiple winners)
Draw 3 - 2 or 3 Dreads (multiple winners)
(or reverse the order with the Titan draw being the grand finale)
Reduce the 30k tix requirement to whatever covers the cost of the ships plus BIG's administrative fee/tax/whatever. Tix are good for all three draws. [Y/N]?
I be not gooder with the maths (it's late and my head's all fuzzy). Also. But. And. Would this sorta work? Like?
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DioTuo
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Posted - 2009.08.30 14:01:00 -
[370]
i buy a ticket but not recive any recipe...
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.08.30 14:08:00 -
[371]
Originally by: Mia Archer
Originally by: mentalmackem
for all those crying they only paid for the three titans stop crying, you have the same chance of winning when theres one titan as u did when there was 3!!
you failed math didnt you
please tell me how?!?!
if you had 1000 tickets before you had a 1000 out of 30000 chance in winning, if they draw only 1 titan u have a 1000 in 10000 chance of winning thus making it the same odds
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Lea Swiftfoot
Amarr
Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.08.30 17:48:00 -
[372]
bump
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Unity Love
Caldari
Dissonance Corp
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.08.30 18:04:00 -
[373]
I've got an idea...
use them in alliance? Haven't seen LFA put a super cap on the field in yonks. Its probably cause we fail but it would be nice to have at least one titan...
muttermuttermutter.
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Tenchuu Khaan
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Posted - 2009.08.31 07:48:00 -
[374]
I'd say, since some ppl don't like the idea of loosing their chance to win 3 Titans:
Draw 1 Titan now. The tickets that have been sold so far can also be used for second and third draw.
All Tickets that sell after the first draw will only count for second and third draw.
This way you won't loose anything, and you get the show on the road a bit so ppl don't have to wait that long.
Win-Win Situation.
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Pixnator
Caldari
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.31 11:50:00 -
[375]
Originally by: Tenchuu Khaan
I'd say, since some ppl don't like the idea of loosing their chance to win 3 Titans:
Draw 1 Titan now. The tickets that have been sold so far can also be used for second and third draw.
All Tickets that sell after the first draw will only count for second and third draw.
This way you won't loose anything, and you get the show on the road a bit so ppl don't have to wait that long.
Win-Win Situation.
I have to agree with this. Just start with the 3rd prize, then move to the 2nd prize as you reach 20000 tickets, and finally the 1st prize once you reached the 30000 tickets, win win for all.
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Zubasar
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Posted - 2009.08.31 12:38:00 -
[376]
Edited by: Zubasar on 31/08/2009 12:39:09
i'd also lower the ticket minimum for the draw a bit since titans don't sell for 100bil these days but around 80 bill(without officer fit) you could at least lower the amount of tickets between 8k or 9k for the draw to take place that would make the draws faster...
your profit would lower from 40 bil to 25 bil per titan or something like it... but that's still an insane amount of isk
if you then use the system with spreading out the draws in 3 different times with people who already bought a ticket holding there tickets for the next drawings...
this should speed up things and keep everyone pleased
oh and to everyone who doesn't have a ticket yet... buy moar tickets!!!
good luck everyone!!
Zubs
p.s. i don't build titans so i don't know the costs, but i'm guessing i'm not that far off... correct me if i'm wrong...
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DarkOmegaD
Airhawk Enterprizes
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:55:00 -
[377]
How bout an update on what is going on with this lotto? The longer that you delay in making a decision the less likely people are to trust in your lotto and those that already have tickets are just going to get more annoyed. Ya your going to **** off a few people but you'll also make more people happy. It's a crap situation but you gotta do what you gotta do (which hopefully doesn't include shafting the people who bought tickets )
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Amy Mouse
Intersteller Manufacturing
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Posted - 2009.08.31 22:32:00 -
[378]
SHAFT SHAFT SHAFT SHAFT SHAFT SHAFT SHAFT SHAFT SHAFT
DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT!!!!
(do it after you get all 300 billion)
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Serj Darek
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Posted - 2009.08.31 22:42:00 -
[379]
Originally by: mentalmackem
Originally by: Mia Archer
Originally by: mentalmackem
for all those crying they only paid for the three titans stop crying, you have the same chance of winning when theres one titan as u did when there was 3!!
you failed math didnt you
please tell me how?!?!
if you had 1000 tickets before you had a 1000 out of 30000 chance in winning, if they draw only 1 titan u have a 1000 in 10000 chance of winning thus making it the same odds
Are you being serious?
What's better (not a trick question):
one out of ten
one out of twenty
one out of thirty
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Shuut U
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:48:00 -
[380]
Originally by: TornSoul
Edited by: TornSoul on 24/08/2009 23:00:26
My apologies for the delayed response.
RL has kept me away from EVE for a bit(*)
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As a gesture of goodwill/apology for the late response or whatever you wan't to call it, I'm going to waiver the firesale fee - aka any firesale will be done gratis.
Not much else I can do atm...
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RE: BTTL receipt page not updating
Whoops DB script error...
Resulting in any BTTL tickets bought on or after the 20th getting marked as BIG Lottery tickets instead.
This has now been fixed.
Aka all wrongly marked purchases has been reverted to what they should be (Ie. BTTL tickets instead of BIG Lottery tickets) - and the problem should not arise again.
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RE: BTTL ticket sales slowing down.
I'm really at a loss about what to do about this - and a bit surprised (and sad) about it as well.
I do know one thing though - No matter *what* I do (or not) someone will be unhappy and I'll recive alot of flack for it.
That is to say, I'm interested in finding a solution that will leave most people happy - And that I'm not particular biased as to what that solution will be, as I'll get shouted at regardless.
Some stats:
date tickets
6 677
7 1.142
8 706
9 615
10 2.869
11 1.949
12 840
13 303
14 242
15 108
16 237
17 257
18 49
19 126
20 36
21 93
22 63
23 47
24 58
total 10.417
Over the last week on average 67 tickets have sold per day.
There is 30.000 - 10.417 = 19.583 tickets yet to be sold.
That's 19.583 / 67 = 192 days = 6 months until the last ticket have sold.
I doubt many would like to wait that long...
So what to do?
I'm all ear for suggestions.
I would like to point out, that if no consensus can be found, I will *have to* stick with the current rules - ie. the draw will be held when all 30K tickes have sold.
So try and be reasonable.
Perhaps, and this is just a suggestion, I can make an ingame poll (for those with tickets) listing some of the suggestions made here.
The trouble is ofc that not all ticket holders will ever see that poll - nor this post...
But anyhow - Fire away.
(*)
I'm currently painting my entire apartment - I now recall why it is I don't like painting...
And it is taking *far far* longer than expected...
1. Refund all entries into your lottery - I didn't enter this lottery to win anything other than the chance at 3 titans.
2. Draw with less tickets than originally planned - You did a business venture and took a risk. It's not your customer's fault that it isn't working as planned for you.
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steave435
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:54:00 -
[381]
If you have 1000 out of 30000 tickets with 3 titans being given out, your chance to win a titan in the first draw would be 3.3%, so your chance of not winning that specific titan would be 96.7%. Your chance of not winning any titan is therefore 96.7%^3=90.4%, so only a 9.6% chance to win a titan. If you have 1000 out of 10000 tickets and 1 titan is given out, the chance to win a titan is 10%, however, the first scenario makes up for this by offering the chance to win multiple titans. The chance to win all 3 titans would be 3.3%^3=0.36%.
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.01 01:15:00 -
[382]
Originally by: Serj Darek
Originally by: mentalmackem
Originally by: Mia Archer
Originally by: mentalmackem
for all those crying they only paid for the three titans stop crying, you have the same chance of winning when theres one titan as u did when there was 3!!
you failed math didnt you
please tell me how?!?!
if you had 1000 tickets before you had a 1000 out of 30000 chance in winning, if they draw only 1 titan u have a 1000 in 10000 chance of winning thus making it the same odds
Are you being serious?
What's better (not a trick question):
one out of ten
one out of twenty
one out of thirty
ok your right its better chance with less tickets in the pot but my point still stands why are people crying about better odds?
and can BIG comment on this for the love of JITA :p
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Rorae
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:58:00 -
[383]
What if BIG where to "buy" the other lottery tickets? It would be a little bit of a gamble for them, but it would keep everyones odds the same, and would allow them to roll for all three titans. Basically you would have 10,000+ tickets from players, and the last 20,000 or so would belong to BIG. Chances are 2 of the titans would go back to BIG anyway, but this would silence the people complaining about not getting a chance at 3 titans. The only issue I can see is that you would have to get a third party to do the rolling or somehow make it visible.
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T'Amber
ships of eve
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:34:00 -
[384]
Originally by: Rorae
What if BIG where to "buy" the other lottery tickets? It would be a little bit of a gamble for them, but it would keep everyones odds the same, and would allow them to roll for all three titans. Basically you would have 10,000+ tickets from players, and the last 20,000 or so would belong to BIG. Chances are 2 of the titans would go back to BIG anyway, but this would silence the people complaining about not getting a chance at 3 titans. The only issue I can see is that you would have to get a third party to do the rolling or somehow make it visible.
Not a bad idea although the tickets are climbing @ 10,633 now, and he hasn't posted a final date.
-T
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Zephirz
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.09.01 17:48:00 -
[385]
Quote:
2. Draw with less tickets than originally planned - You did a business venture and took a risk. It's not your customer's fault that it isn't working as planned for you.
This is very much true tho, its pretty bad to change the lottery after customers bought tickets, whatever you change. Imho best solution would indeed to let it run for another month or so and than BIG buys the remaining tickets...
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general beanflicker
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Posted - 2009.09.01 18:36:00 -
[386]
1 ticket isk sent
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Sahib Saan
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Posted - 2009.09.01 19:00:00 -
[387]
1 ticket please isk sent
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.01 19:20:00 -
[388]
i like the idea of setting a end date for maybe 1 months time and any tickets not sold by then get bought by BIG and get a independant 3rd party to draw the tickets
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general beanflicker
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Posted - 2009.09.01 19:20:00 -
[389]
http://bttl.big-eve.com/Default.aspx from ingame board
Tickets sold so far : 10.645
Next ticket update : 2009.09.01 20:16:31
i can see this taking a looooooong time for 30k tickets sold to be reached but what t hey iv been in eve for ages
so maybe worth the wait
good lucjk to every one that buys a ticket
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Nguyen Phred
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Posted - 2009.09.01 19:25:00 -
[390]
Can we get the f**k on with this already? Gimme my money or have a drawing. For those of you who bought "a ticket for all three drawings" and refuse to accept anything less: suck it up because you're never going to get it. Do you seriously believe someone is going to take a loss on 2 Titans? |
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Zorth Athall
Gallente
Lyonesse.
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.01 20:34:00 -
[391]
An update or somthing would be nice now...I can't imagine this lack of activity is doing much to boost BIGS rep, and if anything the uncertainty is now only damaging.
BIG - please for the love of god, post an update or make a decission.
I for one support the idea of refunds for those that want them, those that dont roll for the first titan. Heres the plan.
Offer 7 days to apply for a refund. Refund all tickets over 10k to owners, or offer to roll over to the next draw. Draw the 1st titan with 10k tickets - im sure most people will accept that and with 7 days to request a refund - if they don't Tough Titans.
Once Titan 1 is down, raffle Titan 2, rinse and repeat, hell run them simultaneously if needed, but please please do somthing, before your rep is damaged further.
Its taken you along time to earn that rep, dont lose it by ignoring your clients and hoping the porblem will 'go away'.
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TREAD ALLIANCE ACCEPTING CORPORATIONS
Contact me ingame for more information
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.01 21:44:00 -
[392]
the problem atm with the lotto market is theres far to many, your talking about 10 lottos going up a week, titans, motherships, marauders, pirate battleships, carriers, dreads, blue prints even lottos for a years worth of plexs now theres far to many and the cash of casual players will be running out
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Zee11
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Posted - 2009.09.02 02:30:00 -
[393]
Well here is my 2 bits. Lotteries are gambling. Big has just as much chance to lose ISK as any horse track, if I place a bet on a horse and the horse is scratched from the race, I win.
Big has several choices.
1 Wait 6 or more months to do the drawing and take a hit to their reputation. Is there REALLY not enough ticket volume or are they following the path of Eve Bank? Folks will wonder.
2. Hold the drawing's now and learn from their screw up. It isn't like they have been losing ISK the last 5 years and it is gambling, even bookies lose once in a while.
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Mythos Photis
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Posted - 2009.09.02 03:04:00 -
[394]
Tickets bought. bump...
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Glospey
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Posted - 2009.09.02 03:45:00 -
[395]
Originally by: Florence Mayweather
actually it's 30000 to 3 to win 1 titan
/celebrates people who can't do math.
It is, in fact, 30000 to 1. Unless you believe the following: If there's a 50% chance of rain on Saturday and an 50% chance of rain on Sunday, there's a 100% chance of rain this weekend? Notably, the correct answer is there's only a 50% chance of rain this weekend.
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Rotnac
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.02 05:17:00 -
[396]
Originally by: Glospey
Originally by: Florence Mayweather
actually it's 30000 to 3 to win 1 titan
/celebrates people who can't do math.
It is, in fact, 30000 to 1. Unless you believe the following: If there's a 50% chance of rain on Saturday and an 50% chance of rain on Sunday, there's a 100% chance of rain this weekend? Notably, the correct answer is there's only a 50% chance of rain this weekend.
Haha, no. So, we can compute this two ways:
1) P(rain this weekend) = P(rain on Sat OR rain on Sun) = P(rain only on Sat OR rain only on Sun OR rain both days) = P(rain only on Sat) + P(rain only on Sun) + P(rain both days) = P(rain on Sat)*P(no rain on Sun) + P(no rain on Sat)*P(rain on Sun) + P(rain on Sat)*P(rain on Sun) = .5*.5 + .5*.5 + .5*.5 = .75. So, 75% chance of rain this weekend.
2) P(rain this weekend) = 1 - P(no rain this weekend) = 1 - P(no rain on Sat)*P(no rain on Sun) = 1 - .5*.5 = 1 - .25 = .75. So, 75% chance of rain this weekend.
So, your example was incorrectly computed. Good job!
As for the odds, I dunno, since odds suck. I only like to deal in actual probabilities, as those are a better way of communicating that info. To that end, we can compute the probability of winning at least one titan.
P(win >= 1 titan) = 1 - P(win no titans) = 1 - P(1st ticket a loser)*P(2nd ticket a loser)*P(3rd ticket a loser) = 1 - (29999/30000)*(29999/30000)*(29999/30000) = 0.0000999967 = 0.0001 approx. So, you have a 0.01% chance of winning at least one titan. Alternately, you have a 99.99% chance of winning no titans. Note that the above computation is valid because the tickets are chosen with replacement: a single ticket may win several times.
But haha, no one's going to read this.
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Adm Bullok
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Posted - 2009.09.02 05:23:00 -
[397]
What does it matter if the lotto only ends in November. If you win, that will be the quickest 50bil that you will ever make in Eve. It took them a month to sell 10k tickets, so it should prob end in November. Just sit back and relax, and when you least expect it, BIG will call YOU!!!. :)
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Niclas Solo
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.09.02 05:30:00 -
[398]
I don't wanna waste my 10 mil on just one titan, I want to win all 3 please. So I can wait np.
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Broken Spade
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Posted - 2009.09.02 14:40:00 -
[399]
Bought 5
I think the problem is that alot of players don't know about it or don't know how to send the isk. If big did alittle more advertising. Then updated thier faq, with a more step by step explanation (of how to send the isk) one of us would probably be flying a titan by now.
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Reverend Book
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Posted - 2009.09.02 14:46:00 -
[400]
Why not have BIG buy tickets as previously asked, but to do so incrementally? Say, 1000 tickets bought every Sunday after downtime. It gives a definite final possible date which would make many people happy and exposes BIG to less of a gamble than buying up all 19000 and change tickets remaining.
I don't expect my tickets to get me anything but a hole in my wallet--it's GAMBLING, after all. But it would be nice to see some definite movement on this rather than just stumbling around in the dark. I suspect that most of the people who will buy tickets are already in if the system stays as is. Adding a timer with this gets some more impulse players off the sidelines, and ends it that much faster.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2009.09.02 22:36:00 -
[401]
How to view your purchased tickets.
1. Login to EVE on the character you isk was sent with.
2. Open the in game browser (5th Icon from the bottom on the left hand panel)
3. Click "Options", click "Trusted Sites"
4. Paste "http://bttl.big-eve.com" into the "URL" box, then Click "Add", then select it from the list, and click "Trusted", then Click "Close"
5. Paste "http://bttl.big-eve.com" in to the address bar, and click enter. Once the page loads, click "Receipts".
There's your confirmation, enjoy!
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Haley Komet
Z Score Rising
Indecisive Certainty
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Posted - 2009.09.03 09:33:00 -
[402]
Might have to buy some more tickets
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Hitomi Desu
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Posted - 2009.09.03 09:40:00 -
[403]
Stop masturbating on your "chances". Chances are always 50/50
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Georgiy Giggle
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Posted - 2009.09.03 15:21:00 -
[404]
Chances are not 50\50.
For example, you bought 100 tickets, your chance is about 0,003% to win, or to show it so: 100\30000.
I'm agree with another guys:
"So have one lotto now, at 10k + tickets, get rid of one titan. People see that you succesfully did that, then they will buy more tickets. then like previous 2 posters stated, at 20k and at 30k...."
Do not forget each ticket has chance to win each titan.
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KrazyJames
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Posted - 2009.09.03 17:06:00 -
[405]
i bought my first 2 lottery tickets and its for this titan lotto.I cant fly them but winning 1 would be sweet
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Inqvisitor Isidor
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Posted - 2009.09.03 17:29:00 -
[406]
3 tickets bought
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Soldur
Helljumpers
Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.09.03 17:29:00 -
[407]
Originally by: Georgiy Giggle
To sell 30k ticket it's not realy easy. Just count, 50k ppl online. More then 30% are newbies, they not only don't have money, they even don't know what is titan.
Another about 20% of ppl do not trust such lotteries.
And the rest, about 50% of ppl (25k persons) maybe will buy ticket.
30k of tickets, hm... it's realy running over.
you do know there are about 250k ppl subscribed to eve
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Bootown
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Posted - 2009.09.03 18:01:00 -
[408]
Edited by: Bootown on 03/09/2009 18:01:27
2009.09.03 16:57 - 11.073 <--- Tickets Sold
When I get home going to buy some tickets for this think, I have faith in BIG!
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Georgiy Giggle
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Posted - 2009.09.03 18:37:00 -
[409]
Originally by: Soldur
you do know there are about 250k ppl subscribed to eve
Yup sure.
ANd DO YOU know how many alt are there in EVE?
And how many ppl rid of eve?
ANd how many did play only trials and then didn't cubscribe?
IMHO, it's more then 150k of ALL Registered CHARACTERS.
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Yarpen
Tsunami Cartel
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Posted - 2009.09.03 19:55:00 -
[410]
1 ticket for jarpen and 1 for Yarpen isk sent
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Zee11
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Posted - 2009.09.03 23:29:00 -
[411]
It would be nice to get an update on the amount of tickets sold.
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Zelmorph
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Posted - 2009.09.04 08:30:00 -
[412]
Tickets sold so far : 11.134
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Lucious Degarr
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Posted - 2009.09.04 09:11:00 -
[413]
Gimme five for Inarius Calaan^^ ISK sent...
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Jingo Valon
Caldari
Rule of Five
The Junta
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Posted - 2009.09.04 16:27:00 -
[414]
I haven't checked this thread for a while now, and I see that the 10% fee for having a firehouse sale for a winner has been removed. I never thought this was a bad idea to begin with, and will donate 10% of whatever my Titan sells for, if I am lucky enough to win one, to BIG's coffers if for no other reason than BIG having the balls to put on a drawing of this magnitude for people who may never have the chance to own a Titan on their own.
Kudos to you BIG, and keep up the good work !!
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KrazyJames
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Posted - 2009.09.04 16:41:00 -
[415]
bought 2 more tickets today as i located my receipts from first 2 tickets.Good luck to everyone
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Mythos Photis
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Posted - 2009.09.05 02:11:00 -
[416]
bought 5 more...
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.09.05 09:00:00 -
[417]
I will invest in some more Tickets, but first i want to hear something from Tornsoul...
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Miss Lightning
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Posted - 2009.09.05 11:19:00 -
[418]
A free bump... because i personally will be disappointed in the eve community if it fails to finish such epic lottery.
BIG Lottery was always fully trusted imo...
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Arlocanta
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Posted - 2009.09.05 15:44:00 -
[419]
Their is just too many really good lottery up and running that have billions for a win.
The tickets have picked up a bit but I still see this taking a while :) buy more tickets ppl :).
And a bump with this.
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Zorth Athall
Gallente
Lyonesse.
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.05 15:51:00 -
[420]
Requesting some input from the OP
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Jonathos
Senex Legio
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2009.09.05 17:19:00 -
[421]
I would also like to buy some tickets, but it looks to be going quite slow. Once we get some feedback from the op on their plans to move this forward I may buy some.
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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.09.06 15:54:00 -
[422]
Soo, what others think, will this lottery ever end? I have 60 tickets IIRC and I could put them in a real use instead of months of waiting...
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CatCan
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.09.06 18:29:00 -
[423]
Push it! Push it good!
Bought 3 tickets...
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Stryus VanAedon
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Posted - 2009.09.07 05:23:00 -
[424]
isk sent - TY
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Kelly O'Connor
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.09.07 07:40:00 -
[425]
24th August since last response that i can see from the OP.
Shocking service really :(
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Smartacus
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2009.09.07 09:11:00 -
[426]
Lack of any official response is ridiculous tbh.
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.07 12:39:00 -
[427]
Originally by: Kelly O'Connor
24th August since last response that i can see from the OP.
Shocking service really :(
i agree with a cry havoc member i will burn in hell for this
seriously tho come on BIG
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Get Paid
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Posted - 2009.09.07 13:43:00 -
[428]
stop complaining.
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NUR ANSCHAUEN
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Posted - 2009.09.07 15:40:00 -
[429]
I can wait 6 month!
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Mystical Dawn
Minmatar
Nomadic Angels
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Posted - 2009.09.07 15:51:00 -
[430]
I still claim this as scam, the last BIG lottery wich ends with a bang
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Clydar Dramos
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Posted - 2009.09.07 21:03:00 -
[431]
Come on ppl buy tickets.
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.09.07 21:04:00 -
[432]
Originally by: Clydar Dramos
Come on ppl buy tickets.
I will, as soon as BIG shows us he is still alive.
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Arteriamus
Caldari
Hidden Ninja Hideout
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.09.08 15:47:00 -
[433]
bump?
Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky
The reason you trained Caldari for missions was so you don't have to think. . .don't start now.
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Corn Holer
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Posted - 2009.09.08 15:50:00 -
[434]
Buy tickets before the titan nerf....
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DeviKun
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Posted - 2009.09.08 16:15:00 -
[435]
Edited by: DeviKun on 08/09/2009 16:16:38
soo am i the only one thinking he is gonna be doing a runner with our isk (if not already)
seeing as this lotto is not working....
and we have not heard didley squat in 3 weeks
i heard rumors the titan pilots who promised the titans are now backing out
anyone someone must be able to tell uss!!!
PLEASE
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.09.08 20:53:00 -
[436]
I don't think he will run, even if the rumors are not nice to hear. Looks like we will need to wait.
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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.09.08 21:16:00 -
[437]
I want refund of my 60 tickets, total of 600 M ISK.
Why? Because of two reasons, one is lack of word from BIG and second is the possible Titan nerf wich is totally out of the question and making this game one step towards mainstream shait...
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Watnao
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Posted - 2009.09.08 22:13:00 -
[438]
Edited by: Watnao on 08/09/2009 22:13:31
I think refunds all around is the way to go with this one. The lottery has clearly gone down the drain, and if BIG is in any way interested in salvaging their reputation a refund is in order. I doubt any changing around of the rules (like making it only one titan etc) at this point will satisfy anyone.
Not that we've heard anything in a long time anyway... it wouldn't surprise me if BIG have already run off with the ISK.
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Zorth Athall
Gallente
Lyonesse.
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.08 22:22:00 -
[439]
BIG...FAIL
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Orion Ghast
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Posted - 2009.09.08 22:47:00 -
[440]
Edited by: Orion Ghast on 08/09/2009 22:48:40
well this will give chribba a nice big grin first fx900 did the dirty on one of his clients now big looks like they might just do a runner with all the isk (110 bill could start a new life with that easy)
so pretty much chribba just became the only trustable 3rd party again so he will again rake in the isk prolly have the other 2 race titans within a few months gawd 4 titans mineing veld :)
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Zorth Athall
Gallente
Lyonesse.
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.09 10:12:00 -
[441]
BIG?
Are you there?
Is anyone there?
Wheres my money?
Wheres my customer service?
Wheres the love?
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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.09.09 10:46:00 -
[442]
Still no answer from BIG...
Refund my ISK...
Purchases made by Mova B :
Date: 2009.08.10 18:28
Amount: 600.000.000,00
#Tickets: 60
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Kelly O'Connor
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.09.09 10:49:00 -
[443]
Im sure i read that he will Refund if you ask, however you have to pay a 25% admin fee...
Way to rip people off :)
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T'Amber
ships of eve
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Posted - 2009.09.09 11:19:00 -
[444]
11.421 tickets sold :| Getting closer
Big has been around for along time - longer than all the other 30+ lottos running atm, I expect there is some RL issues effecting his ability to log in. I highly doubt he would take the isk.
-T'amber
Click!
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Zorth Athall
Gallente
Lyonesse.
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.09 11:27:00 -
[445]
Edited by: Zorth Athall on 09/09/2009 11:33:55
Edited by: Zorth Athall on 09/09/2009 11:31:52
Thanks T, however 11'000 isn't really any closer, weren't we at 10k 10 days ago?
I also want a refund now...or at least some word from the OP.
I think people are more concerned with his inactivity and lack of face to actually hold his hands up and say this has failed.
Arnt there now "Rumours" that the Titan owners have backed out of the deal?
Originally by: T'Amber
11.421 tickets sold :| Getting closer
Big has been around for along time - longer than all the other 30+ lottos running atm, I expect there is some RL issues effecting his ability to log in. I highly doubt he would take the isk.
-T'amber
I highlighted the key points for you
As any FYI Tornsoul was on these very forums less than 48hrs ago, posting this topic:
Posted - 2009.09.07 23:00:00 - [4] - Quote
Report
Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results.
They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see :
[BIG Betting] AT6
[BIG Betting] AT5
[BIG Betting] AT4
3/7
ugh.. 5 minutes between posts... Think I'll settle for just reserving 3 posts and somehow fit it in there.. or forward link to other posts in the thread...
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Oghma Grianainech
Minmatar
Quam Singulari
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.09.09 12:21:00 -
[446]
Originally by: Zorth Athall
Edited by: Zorth Athall on 09/09/2009 11:33:55
Edited by: Zorth Athall on 09/09/2009 11:31:52
Thanks T, however 11'000 isn't really any closer, weren't we at 10k 10 days ago?
I also want a refund now...or at least some word from the OP.
I think people are more concerned with his inactivity and lack of face to actually hold his hands up and say this has failed.
Arnt there now "Rumours" that the Titan owners have backed out of the deal?
Originally by: T'Amber
11.421 tickets sold :| Getting closer
Big has been around for along time - longer than all the other 30+ lottos running atm, I expect there is some RL issues effecting his ability to log in. I highly doubt he would take the isk.
-T'amber
I highlighted the key points for you
As any FYI Tornsoul was on these very forums less than 48hrs ago, posting this topic:
Posted - 2009.09.07 23:00:00 - [4] - Quote
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Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results.
They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see :
[BIG Betting] AT6
[BIG Betting] AT5
[BIG Betting] AT4
3/7
ugh.. 5 minutes between posts... Think I'll settle for just reserving 3 posts and somehow fit it in there.. or forward link to other posts in the thread...
Seems like this thread is being ignored then and maybe he hopes everyone will withdraw their tickets and bag the "administration fee" for withdrawing tickets as a prize.
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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.09.09 16:02:00 -
[447]
Originally by: Zorth Athall
Edited by: Zorth Athall on 09/09/2009 11:33:55
Edited by: Zorth Athall on 09/09/2009 11:31:52
Thanks T, however 11'000 isn't really any closer, weren't we at 10k 10 days ago?
I also want a refund now...or at least some word from the OP.
I think people are more concerned with his inactivity and lack of face to actually hold his hands up and say this has failed.
Arnt there now "Rumours" that the Titan owners have backed out of the deal?
Originally by: T'Amber
11.421 tickets sold :| Getting closer
Big has been around for along time - longer than all the other 30+ lottos running atm, I expect there is some RL issues effecting his ability to log in. I highly doubt he would take the isk.
-T'amber
I highlighted the key points for you
As any FYI Tornsoul was on these very forums less than 48hrs ago, posting this topic:
Posted - 2009.09.07 23:00:00 - [4] - Quote
Report
Dear mods
These many posts are reserved to list the results.
They unfurtunatly take up an awfull lot of space.
Have a look at past BIG Betting threads to see :
[BIG Betting] AT6
[BIG Betting] AT5
[BIG Betting] AT4
3/7
ugh.. 5 minutes between posts... Think I'll settle for just reserving 3 posts and somehow fit it in there.. or forward link to other posts in the thread...
Well someone told him to log in and refund ISK for those who want to get the ISK back... This lottery will not end before this year ends..
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PeveS
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.09.09 18:51:00 -
[448]
Refund please. And please let Chribba host the next BIG auction.
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.09 20:42:00 -
[449]
tornsoul is ingame now lets see if they post or go another day without a word, if its a scam they could atleast grow a set and admit it
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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.09.09 21:04:00 -
[450]
Originally by: mentalmackem
tornsoul is ingame now lets see if they post or go another day without a word, if its a scam they could atleast grow a set and admit it
Sent second eve mail about refund issue, no answer or ISK received back, atleast yet.
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Memphis Technical Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.09 21:45:00 -
[451]
Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: Zorth Athall
DEMANDING TITAN LOTTO UPDATE!!!!
I know, I know... 
I got a seriously nasty backlog of stuff I need to catch up on - and that's one of them...
Intresting, you would think 100billion of other peoples money and his rep might be importaint to him.
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Ewan Heaven
Superior Research
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Posted - 2009.09.10 06:05:00 -
[452]
to the top, so this can end quick ^^
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BigBold
BigBold's Games
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Posted - 2009.09.10 07:06:00 -
[453]
Hello,
If I'm allowed to make a suggestion - and I'm sure the thread starter doesn't mind , may I draw your attention to an alternative form of gambling that
1) doesn't involve trusting 100+ billion ISK to anyone at a time,
2) doesn't involve more than a day of waiting, and
3) has better odds of winning than this, or indeed any other currently running lottery for that matter?
Please see this thread for further information and discussion.
Cheers!
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Captain HappyChap
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Posted - 2009.09.10 10:24:00 -
[454]
Edited by: Captain HappyChap on 10/09/2009 10:25:41
Edited by: Captain HappyChap on 10/09/2009 10:25:09
Originally by: BigBold
Hello,
If I'm allowed to make a suggestion - and I'm sure the thread starter doesn't mind , may I draw your attention to an alternative form of gambling that
1) doesn't involve trusting 100+ billion ISK to anyone at a time,
2) doesn't involve more than a day of waiting, and
3) has better odds of winning than this, or indeed any other currently running lottery for that matter?
Please see this thread for further information and discussion.
Cheers!
End of the day, I have been about in eve for a long long time - I cannot remember a time when these guys have scammed/doing anything wrong. Infact most of their lotterys are subsidised by their own pocket. WHilst this one may not be subsidised, dont seethere is any reason not to trust BIG. The prizes in your contest seem to be somewhat crappy tbh! No offense!
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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:26:00 -
[455]
With this speed of sold tickets, the lottery is done in about one and a half years...
Refund my tickets, you have the details in your mailbox. If you do even have any ISK left...
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Nguyen Phred
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Posted - 2009.09.10 15:39:00 -
[456]
Last update appears to have been on: 2009.08.24 22:51:00
How long does it take to write 9 words? "The Titan Lottery is closed. Your money will be refunded."
And apparently TornSoul has been on the forums elsewhere? C'mon, really? If you can't be bothered to post or something, it's clear your reputation is no longer important to you.
BIG is now on my list of unreliable/liars/scammers. And that's the word I'll be spreading to my friends and corp members.
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.10 15:44:00 -
[457]
im now classing the money i put into this as lost i think, anyone still playing BIG's other lottos are clearly a few tomatos short of a salad
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Mova B
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Posted - 2009.09.10 17:41:00 -
[458]
Originally by: mentalmackem
im now classing the money i put into this as lost i think, anyone still playing BIG's other lottos are clearly a few tomatos short of a salad
I agree with you, and I heard a rumour that one of the price Avatars has been sold already... Of course I can't confirm it.
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:37:00 -
[459]
As posted elsewhere already :
"(*)Terrible sorry about not getting the AT7 betting started sooner. RL have been a major PITA the last weeks. Couple of weeks ago I had an opening to get the site done, but back then the official schedule wasnt posted/updated yet so... meh."
Simply a statement, not an excuse.
RL has hit me BIG time the last few weeks. **** happens.
As also posted other elsewhere
"I got a seriously nasty backlog of stuff I need to catch up on"
Last few days have been spend chipping away at all the items on that backlog.
I'm nearly there now.
I've been in two minds if I should post at all to this thread before being able to offer "The Solution(tm)" or not...
But I think some re-assurement that I'm back in the saddle, and definatly haven't run of with any ISK might be in order around now.
Currently I do not have "The Solution(tm)" - But hope to have one Soon(tm).
Reading these past pages, I keep seeing that people believe that it's BIG making anywhere between 20 and 40 billion on each titan (all tickets selling).
FWIW : BIG's only profit of this lottery is a 5% admin fee. That's all. The rest (15 to 20 billion per titan apparently) goes to the producers.
Stay tuned.
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Ascendant Strategies Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.10 21:56:00 -
[460]
Edited by: Dylon Xavier on 10/09/2009 21:56:40
Thanks for the post TornSoul. And the reassurances.
Good to know BIG hasn't hurt their Rep. Took too long to get up there.
And for the record... I think the best solution is to told it at 3 stages.
Stage 1 - Tickets 1-10,000 For first titan.
Stage 2 - Tickets 1-20,000 for second titan.
Stage 3 - Tickets 1-30,000 for Last titan.
But draw and deliver at each stage so the winners won't have to wait till last draw (except Stage3 winner of course). Just a passing thought.
Dx
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Ruth Menewai
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:23:00 -
[461]
let's get these tickets sold so i can get my titan(s)! :D
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:31:00 -
[462]
can we get a rough idea on the time scale when we will have a decision?
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:37:00 -
[463]
How rough can you handle?
Hopefully before the end of the weekend.
I'd give that an 80% chance if I was the gambling type
Could be sooner, could be later.
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Rotnac
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.11 13:57:00 -
[464]
Originally by: mentalmackem
im now classing the money i put into this as lost i think, anyone still playing BIG's other lottos are clearly a few tomatos short of a salad
I'm classing the money I put into the lotto as lost, but that's cause its a lotto, and I'm not likely to win. And I'm not gonna lie, I think BIG would have send someone to my house and **** in my computer while screaming "Haha *****, we got your iskies now!" to lose my trust in them. They've been around doing stuff too long otherwise at this point.
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Wealhtheow
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Posted - 2009.09.11 14:25:00 -
[465]
Have you considered talking to the producers, asking if they would lower the tickets per ships to perhaps 70b per ship? Would make a huge difference imo.
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.11 14:40:00 -
[466]
Originally by: TornSoul
How rough can you handle?
Hopefully before the end of the weekend.
I'd give that an 80% chance if I was the gambling type
Could be sooner, could be later.
o.0 ye emd of weekend is good tho lol, hopefull there will be a good decision
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Asuri Kinnes
Caldari
Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.09.11 22:57:00 -
[467]
Originally by: Rotnac
Good Stuff
QFT -
Thanks for the update TS.
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Yarkona
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.09.12 11:49:00 -
[468]
Back up :) Come on...Buy some tickets to the biggest lottery (ever maybe?)
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Hinata
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Posted - 2009.09.12 21:59:00 -
[469]
This needs a bump
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Zorth Athall
Gallente
Lyonesse.
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.13 18:47:00 -
[470]
Edited by: Zorth Athall on 13/09/2009 18:47:34
Found on page 7 - nice work advertising by the Op
Tickets sold so far : 11.462
Next ticket update : 2009.09.13 18:56:02
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Jack Sparroxx
Honour Bound
Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.09.14 11:38:00 -
[471]
good thing I wasnt betting on the 80% chance.
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DeviKun
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Posted - 2009.09.14 15:11:00 -
[472]
Yea 80% chance pfff
this just needs to be refunded and re-started with 1 titan at a time as your time frame seems to be takeing the micky hell only what 18k+ tickets to go lawl its getting slower and esp now with all the bad rep about this People wont put there money into this loto because the know its not going to work soo its been in limbo for 3 weeks ... refund (pain in the arse to do)
Titan Pilots are also tight if there not willing to drop there price
and guessing hinta is one "bumping" this thred that would be the erebus that you won from chribba dropping your prices to 75-80 would be a good idea getting 95 bill (LAWL) is greedy
Torn u should go buy some titans of the market and do a less tickets
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.09.14 16:41:00 -
[473]
Originally by: DeviKun
Yea 80% chance pfff
Titan Pilots are also tight if there not willing to drop there price
<snip>dropping your prices to 75-80 would be a good idea getting 95 bill (LAWL) is greedy
Torn u should go buy some titans of the market and do a less tickets
Firstly : I've not been able to make contact with the producers (mail+IRC - no luck yet) - So still no "Solution(tm)".
Secondly : Above mentioned option is one of several on my mind (But I also have to honor my agreement with the producers, so until we have that chat I can't make any promises)
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Jack Sparroxx
Honour Bound
Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.09.15 10:03:00 -
[474]
Originally by: TornSoul
Originally by: DeviKun
Yea 80% chance pfff
Titan Pilots are also tight if there not willing to drop there price
<snip>dropping your prices to 75-80 would be a good idea getting 95 bill (LAWL) is greedy
Torn u should go buy some titans of the market and do a less tickets
Firstly : I've not been able to make contact with the producers (mail+IRC - no luck yet) - So still no "Solution(tm)".
Secondly: Above mentioned option is one of several on my mind (But I also have to honor my agreement with the producers, so until we have that chat I can't make any promises)
You have got to be ****ting me. You have started a 3xtitan lottery without having the ships in stock?? WTF.
So what you are telling us, you where planning to sell 30.000 tickets, THEN buy the titans and THEN raffle them off. Whats the matter you man, thatÆs about the worst merchantman ship I have heard of in a LONG TIME. Your whole business model is based on selling x-amount of tickets that you might or might not sell, buy 3 titans from a producer that might and might not have them in stock. Titans are not something you just build or order from a random producer, takes a good 3months to get 1 build including the cap parts.
So right about now, you hole business model flawed. IÆm not even trying to troll you or anything, but I call it as I see it.
And since you apparently donÆt have the ships yourself, and your titan builder is not in reach(does he even have them?), cancel the lottery and refund people.
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Lag Generator
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.09.15 10:28:00 -
[475]
Lottery titans and crap that you don't even have... ****, that's a pretty good business model.
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Asuri Kinnes
Caldari
Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.09.15 12:24:00 -
[476]
Originally by: Jack Sparroxx
Random Blather...
Originally by: Lag Generator
Lottery titans and crap that you don't even have... ****, that's a pretty good business model.
You guys should check out Big Lotteries history before you start ****ing all over...
Right now we're no worse off than we were when we bought our tickets. Big Lotteries has a long history - I'm fairly confident (as confident as anything in this game) that Big won't be running away w/the money...
You bought your tickets, and one of the conditions was that 30K tickets would be sold. No guarantees of time were given. Get over it. Big has a hell of a lot more rep. - he/she will do right.
AK
Honor is that which you do when no one else is looking. |
Phoenix492
Amarr
M. Corp Engineering
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.09.15 13:05:00 -
[477]
Edited by: Phoenix492 on 15/09/2009 13:06:55
Originally by: Jack Sparroxx
Stuff
Tbh - If you read what TS said -
Originally by: TornSoul
Firstly : I've not been able to make contact with the producers (mail+IRC - no luck yet) - So still no "Solution(tm)".
He hasn't said they ships aren't built, just he hasn't had contact with the guys producing them. Nor that he not found out any builders / Sellers yet...He's got some, but they can't be contacted at the moment for whatever reason. Not sure where you jumped on your high horse from there. Yeah, it's not great that TS doesn't already hold the three titans - But who (Barring Chribba with his endless Wallet) Can afford to have three titans stashed away? You need to remember this is a computer game - People do have Real life, Real Jobs etc - What will the Titan Producers get out of not building them now? Titans are losing price in fear of the DDD nerf - and I doubt TS would of handed over the isk prior to getting a ship in return..
Just have Patience. We all knew this wasn't going to be a weekend lottery - It's for THREE TITANS ffs...Chill out
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.15 13:30:00 -
[478]
what about the rumour that the producers have sold up to 2 of the titans :S
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.09.15 15:09:00 -
[479]
Originally by: mentalmackem
what about the rumour that the producers have sold up to 2 of the titans :S
Nothing, if they did, they need to bult 2 more fast. More or less fast...
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Kyra Neve
Caldari
Nomadic Angels
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Posted - 2009.09.15 15:29:00 -
[480]
Originally by: McMelch
bult 2 more fast
Does not compute!
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.09.15 17:04:00 -
[481]
@Jack Sparroxx : Want to buy a clue?
Perhaps from this guy : Phoenix492.
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I'm not buying/selling/making titans for this lottery.
I'm simply a broker for the producers.
Who asked me if I'd run a lottery for them, due to past experience etc.
That's all folks.
As such I'm "employed" to sell a number of tickets.
And that's the deal I have to honor - Unless they release me from it (ie. change their mind).
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Finally got hold of a go-between late last night. But no word back yet.
BIG Lottery |
Don ZOLA
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.09.15 18:40:00 -
[482]
On behalf of producers i am confirming that ALL 3 titans are built, fitted and ready. NONE was sold, if you wanna buy titans beside these 3 just contact me and i`ll happily provide you other ones ;)
Speaking of BIG reputation, I am sure it is still solid as a rock. And that it will remain that way. No one is going to run with any money.
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Lag Generator
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.09.15 20:25:00 -
[483]
I'm not saying they will run off with the money, I'm saying it's a brilliant business idea. Making (tens of) billions without investing anything, or risking anything. Why didn't I come up with this first?
Only thing I don't understand is the "on behalf of the producers" stuff. The titans could just as well be bought from the open market, so who cares about who produces them.
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Margin Walker
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Posted - 2009.09.15 20:26:00 -
[484]
TornSoul and Don Zola: Thanks for these two latest posts. Looking forward to the lottery result, whenever that may be. |
Christos Hendez
Warhamsters
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.09.15 21:02:00 -
[485]
Originally by: Don ZOLA
On behalf of producers i am confirming that ALL 3 titans are built, fitted and ready. NONE was sold, if you wanna buy titans beside these 3 just contact me and i`ll happily provide you other ones ;)
Speaking of BIG reputation, I am sure it is still solid as a rock. And that it will remain that way. No one is going to run with any money.
GH-SC confirming that someone isnt a scammer, love it on so many levels, thanks Zola :)
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Trimmok
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Posted - 2009.09.16 00:05:00 -
[486]
and back to the front lol
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 02:03:00 -
[487]
great GHSC are involved that just filled everyone with confidence
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Don ZOLA
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.09.16 03:00:00 -
[488]
Originally by: Christos Hendez
Originally by: Don ZOLA
On behalf of producers i am confirming that ALL 3 titans are built, fitted and ready. NONE was sold, if you wanna buy titans beside these 3 just contact me and i`ll happily provide you other ones ;)
Speaking of BIG reputation, I am sure it is still solid as a rock. And that it will remain that way. No one is going to run with any money.
GH-SC confirming that someone isnt a scammer, love it on so many levels, thanks Zola :)
np :)
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Don ZOLA
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.09.16 03:08:00 -
[489]
Originally by: mentalmackem
great GHSC are involved that just filled everyone with confidence
Yea cause im kinda not the biggest titan reseller ingame. And i dont have over 6 years of caring about my ereputation. And im like totally not Arachs greatest dissapoitment acording to his corp way of life. etc...
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Tiberius Adama
Amarr
Capital Banking and Investment
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Posted - 2009.09.16 15:03:00 -
[490]
Originally by: mentalmackem
great GHSC are involved that just filled everyone with confidence
oh wow, i realize that BIG is doing everything on the up and up ( at least past experience with them provides me with alot of confidence )
But GHSC involved? thats NEVER a good sign. Even if they were a honest party in this situation, they will just use the ISK gained for more dirty handed work
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Sales Thread |
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Soldur
Helljumpers
Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.09.16 15:12:00 -
[491]
i like dirty handed work do etttt
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James Malice
Gallente
Legion Of Mad Cats
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Posted - 2009.09.16 15:19:00 -
[492]
Considering who they do the dirty handed work against... BUY MORE TICKET! XD
Clear Skies 1 - Awesome
Clear Skies 2 - Amazing
Clear Skies 3 - It's gonna be epic biatches |
DeviKun
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Posted - 2009.09.16 15:25:00 -
[493]
So back to the question this lottery is not going to work so what are u going to do about it apart from keep stalling
... and some how i think the titan producers should have been online by now
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Agrilad
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Posted - 2009.09.16 16:10:00 -
[494]
Well I can imagine the reason the producers don't want to change the terms is that they are drooling over/expecting the 100 bil price tag of each titan. I haven't kept up with titan prices. But don't they typically go for more like 70 bil?
Anyways, I just sent another 100 mil. So I have 30 tickets now. I trust BIG. Though admittedly, GHSC if they are really a part of this ... Didn't see TS acknowledge that they GHSC has any part of it. GHSC could just be trying to screw up the lottery by posting their name against it.
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.09.16 21:36:00 -
[495]
First titan ticket sold : 2009.08.06
Don Zola : Guiding Hand Social Club from 2009.09.05 01:22 to this day
Just a FYI.
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mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:32:00 -
[496]
Originally by: TornSoul
First titan ticket sold : 2009.08.06
Don Zola : Guiding Hand Social Club from 2009.09.05 01:22 to this day
Just a FYI.
can u confirm this lotto has nothing to do with guiding hand? including they aint the providers please lol
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.09.17 16:33:00 -
[497]
The ISK is in my (BIG Games) wallet - So no worries there.
Should anything happen to the titans - I would simply go shopping for new ones (seems there's plenty on the free market, so shouldnt be a problem).
Hope you can sleep now
BIG Lottery |
mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.17 16:34:00 -
[498]
sleep? its 5pm why would i wana sleep now lol
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DeviKun
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Posted - 2009.09.18 13:31:00 -
[499]
how do we go about getting a refund and is it true that you are going to charge %15 percent for refund ?!!
If u let me know here what to do i can mail u with meh main or something if that is ok
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.09.18 15:53:00 -
[500]
I'll give you a free advice : Stop listening to rumors.
Atm there's nothing you can (or should) do with regards to a refund.
Until you hear differently (which means the first post of this thread and the website gets updated) the lottery is running along unchanged.
BIG Lottery |
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Deelicious
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Posted - 2009.09.18 15:59:00 -
[501]
Originally by: TornSoul
I'll give you a free advice : Stop listening to rumors.
Atm there's nothing you can (or should) do with regards to a refund.
Until you hear differently (which means the first post of this thread and the website gets updated) the lottery is running along unchanged.
Translation: "You'll stop playing this game before the lottery ever sells out. Thanks for the ISK." |
Daemonspirit
An Android Lust
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Posted - 2009.09.19 01:36:00 -
[502]
Big will give the titans away. Doesn't happen in a time frame suitable for you? Don't give away your iskies...
I know I have a snowballs chance in hell, but it would be totally kewl to win a Titan! I'm hanging out just to see how this thing plays out!
Good Luck Big!
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
Phoenix492
Amarr
M. Corp Engineering
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.09.19 12:16:00 -
[503]
Edited by: Phoenix492 on 19/09/2009 12:17:03
Originally by: TornSoul
@Jack Sparroxx : Want to buy a clue?
Perhaps from this guy : Phoenix492.
Jack, just so you know, I'm all sold out of Clues
BUMP!
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Tiberius Adama
Amarr
Capital Banking and Investment
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Posted - 2009.09.19 13:00:00 -
[504]
This lottery has absolutely grinded to a halt.
And lack of public confidence wont get any more tickets sold.
The positive note is at least we know the size limitations for a lottery in eve.
Dont be too depressed however, selling 11,500 tickets @ 10m each is a TON of isk... Just not enough to cover 3 titans.
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Capital Banking and Investment CEO
Sales Thread |
Vanessa Loveless
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Posted - 2009.09.19 21:48:00 -
[505]
Why not.
5 Tickets for me please. isk sent
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0craM
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Posted - 2009.09.20 05:47:00 -
[506]
Isk sent. *bump*
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.09.20 22:45:00 -
[507]
bump
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Veinnail
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
Distant Drums
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Posted - 2009.09.20 23:34:00 -
[508]
i got 5 on it
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Ruth Menewai
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Posted - 2009.09.21 08:26:00 -
[509]
Edited by: Ruth Menewai on 21/09/2009 08:26:42
This lottery started before the announcement that they were looking at titan changes for the Dominion patch. There's a possibility that this lottery may not end before the Dominion patch goes live.
I'm not expecting an answer right away, I just I want you to be aware that a lot of us put our money down for a chance to win pre-Dominion titans, not post-Dominion titans (whatever those end up to be... they could be better or worse than titans in their current form).
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Captain HappyChap
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Posted - 2009.09.21 08:32:00 -
[510]
If it were me I'd say sod it, do the lotto for one titan and maybe a mothership or something and then just flog the other two titans - I have bought tickets for this and all, just dont see these tickets ever completely selling - or not anytime soon.
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MKV SKRALL
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Posted - 2009.09.21 08:54:00 -
[511]
out of idle curiosity, would big reveal how many names are currently on the lottery list here? tbh i dont think theres enough people playing these games to ever sell out this thing. if everyone who plays has allready baught their tickets, then we sit here with thumbs up our asses until the end of eternity.
if you did the first draw for the first titan with the first 10k and then voided tickets for the other draws (1 ticket for all 3 was allways a bad idea imho. if your not investing in 100, then why buy 3 when 1 is enough?) i would certainly buy another set for the second 10k draw.
if theres too many folks complaining about "omfg my 1 ticket was guaranteed to win all 3 draws" then refund the lot, start a fresh with "10k for 1, 10k for 2, 10k for 3 seperate draws" rules in place. you will sell a new batch of 10k long before you will sell a current batch of..... 19k to go? then start on the next 10k with the same customers re-buying rather than hoping new ones will materialise out of the ether.
just my 0.2isk, not even enough for a can of quafe... damn credit crunch n all that
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Karen Kozuki
Caldari
Dead Frigate Coalition
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Posted - 2009.09.21 09:13:00 -
[512]
Quote:
Irae brevis furor est. Anger is a brief madness.
This is so because anger is an intense, hot flame that consumes its
fuel quickly, leaving only cold ash behind.
But for some, anger is a breeder reactor - the more it burns, the
more it feeds itself, until the heat builds and critical mass is
reached...
ProTip: The lack of confidence is fueling a lack of confidence. People with tickets already proposing the dismantling of the lotto isn't going to help them recoup (or at least bring an end to) their investment.
If you want it to end faster it will need a viral grassroots push from those who already have tickets to get it done in an acceptable amount of time. That being said everything is up in the air with Dominion and who knows maybe the value of Titans will go up and drive this lotto further?
Either way I just bought a couple tickets for ****s and giggles. Dunno if I will be around in 9 months but the possibility of having a Titan in lowly me's assets list was so amusing I just had to buy some tickets.
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Wildy126
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Posted - 2009.09.21 10:09:00 -
[513]
he said he would come up with a solution soo far the solotion is just to hold for time is it that you have already spent all the money and cant afford to refund to us but as many people have said restart the lotto for 1 titan at a time because this will not end
and people have been asking about refunds yet your dodgeing the subject
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Definite Alt
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Posted - 2009.09.21 17:34:00 -
[514]
Originally by: Daemonspirit
Big will give the titans away. Doesn't happen in a time frame suitable for you? Don't give away your iskies...
The "iskies" have already been spent by most of the people commenting. So, by your logic, if it takes 5 years, are you cool with that? If you answered yes, you're exactly as dumb as you sound. Or, more likely, you and the posters immediately below you are alts trying to prop things up for BIG. No one signed up for an open-ended, neverending lottery with no drawing. How long will this go on before BIG calls a halt to it? We're coming up on 2 months. So, smart@ss, 3 months? 4? 12? Will you still be riding BIG's tip in 12 months? Will you call it what it is then? |
Cellyna
Caldari
Zombie Bears in Space
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Posted - 2009.09.21 21:35:00 -
[515]
Bump to the top. |
Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.09.22 05:46:00 -
[516]
Originally by: Definite Alt
The "iskies" have already been spent by most of the people commenting. So, by your logic, if it takes 5 years, are you cool with that? If you answered yes, you're exactly as dumb as you sound. Or, more likely, you and the posters immediately below you are alts trying to prop things up for BIG. No one signed up for an open-ended, neverending lottery with no drawing. How long will this go on before BIG calls a halt to it? We're coming up on 2 months. So, smart@ss, 3 months? 4? 12? Will you still be riding BIG's tip in 12 months? Will you call it what it is then?
Calm down. Don't worry, when you turn 13, you'll stop raging about not getting instant gratification on the internet.
***
Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space
Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2
WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.09.22 23:32:00 -
[517]
Just a quick heads up.
The SolutionÖ is being worked on. Just taking a bit longer than hoped for.
I will warn you before hand though that it's probably more "a solutionÖ" than "The SolutionÖ", so don't go over-hyping.
And some part of it might not yet pan out quite as I hope for, and some already hasn't.
But it will at least be SomethingÖ, that much I can promise
(Please note and enjoy/dispair over the clever/stupid use of capitalization)
BIG Lottery |
Jack Sparroxx
Honour Bound
Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.09.23 07:50:00 -
[518]
It will be impossible to make every one happy no matter what solution you come up with.
So as long as you come with "a solution" within a reasonable timeframe and keep your customers updated, then I'm sure the majority will be happy enough with "a solution".
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Definite Alt
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Posted - 2009.09.23 17:41:00 -
[519]
Originally by: Artemis Rose
Calm down. Don't worry, when you turn 13, you'll stop raging about not getting instant gratification on the internet.
So, smart*ss, I ask you the exact same question: How long is too long? Do YOU not understand what the words "instant gratification" mean? Because 2 months is not instant gratification. Go log back in to your main and get back to work for BIG and their friends. |
Dylon Xavier
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
The Transcendent
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Posted - 2009.09.24 02:26:00 -
[520]
Back to top again.
Dx |
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.09.24 03:28:00 -
[521]
Originally by: Definite Alt
Originally by: Artemis Rose
Calm down. Don't worry, when you turn 13, you'll stop raging about not getting instant gratification on the internet.
So, smart*ss, I ask you the exact same question: How long is too long? Do YOU not understand what the words "instant gratification" mean? Because 2 months is not instant gratification. Go log back in to your main and get back to work for BIG and their friends.
This is my main, where is yours, hotshot? By the way you are acting, you were probably eating glue and shoving crayons in your nose when BIG started their lotto. Do you think they'd let the entire lotto flop, over a small amount and ruin their reputation and heaven knows how much revenue in future business?
Now take a deep breath and be patient.
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Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space
Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2
WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
NOTYK
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Posted - 2009.09.24 17:10:00 -
[522]
Edited by: NOTYK on 24/09/2009 17:11:10
bump
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Definite Alt
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Posted - 2009.09.24 20:35:00 -
[523]
Originally by: Artemis Rose
This is my main, where is yours, hotshot? By the way you are acting, you were probably eating glue and shoving crayons in your nose when BIG started their lotto. Do you think they'd let the entire lotto flop, over a small amount and ruin their reputation and heaven knows how much revenue in future business?
Now take a deep breath and be patient.
Prove that it is your main. It is irrelevant whether I post with my main or not. Your logic is flawed. If BIG gave a damn about it/their reputation, they/he would never have allowed this situation to develop. Your logic is also predicated on the assumption that they CARE about their reputation and that they want to continue doing this in the future rather than pocketing 100's of billions of isk.
Now explain how 2 months of waiting isn't being patient. Whether or not I had crayons up my nose is irrelevant. The only relevant things here are when the money will be refunded or the lottery drawing takes place. Again, go crawling back to BIG and get back to work (you are surely an able prostitute). |
Klandor
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Posted - 2009.09.25 04:25:00 -
[524]
I purchased 10 tickets near the initial ticket offering and have yet to receive any type of receipt. Could someone kindly direct me to the right place to check on my tickets?
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Mike Reevis
Minmatar
First Slave Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.25 15:04:00 -
[525]
All Tickets Can be Checked here:
http://bttl.big-eve.com/Default.aspx
This only works in game
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Daemonspirit
An Android Lust
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Posted - 2009.09.25 17:14:00 -
[526]
Edited by: Daemonspirit on 25/09/2009 17:15:03
I come back to check the thread and what do I find? I've been nerd-raged!
Originally by: Definite Alt
The "iskies" have already been spent by most of the people commenting. So, by your logic, if it takes 5 years, are you cool with that? If you answered yes, you're exactly as dumb as you sound.
Gratuitous insults don't help you make your point...
Originally by: Definite Alt
Or, more likely, you and the posters immediately below you are alts trying to prop things up for BIG. No one signed up for an open-ended, neverending lottery with no drawing.
Another insult
/me goes back and checks beginning of thread... Nope, just to 30K tickets sold. Checking my math... Nope, not there yet...
Originally by: Definite Alt
How long will this go on before BIG calls a halt to it? We're coming up on 2 months. So, smart@ss, 3 months? 4? 12? Will you still be riding BIG's tip in 12 months? Will you call it what it is then?
Oh my... THREE insults... How will I ever survive?
Originally by: Artemis Rose
Calm down. Don't worry, when you turn 13, you'll stop raging about not getting instant gratification on the internet.
Really guys, no need to insult each other... It accomplishes nothing...
Originally by: Definite Alt
So, smart*ss, I ask you the exact same question: How long is too long? Do YOU not understand what the words "instant gratification" mean? Because 2 months is not instant gratification. Go log back in to your main and get back to work for BIG and their friends.
I'm gonna qualify that one as an insult too... Hope you don't mind.
Originally by: Definite Alt
Originally by: Artemis Rose
This is my main, where is yours, hotshot? By the way you are acting, you were probably eating glue and shoving crayons in your nose when BIG started their lotto. Do you think they'd let the entire lotto flop, over a small amount and ruin their reputation and heaven knows how much revenue in future business? Now take a deep breath and be patient.
Oh my... please guys... no need for this... Its internet spaceships... I mean, C'mon, we're not living in Somalia... Originally by: Definite Alt
Prove that it is your main. It is irrelevant whether I post with my main or not. Your logic is flawed. If BIG gave a damn about it/their reputation, they/he would never have allowed this situation to develop. Your logic is also predicated on the assumption that they CARE about their reputation and that they want to continue doing this in the future rather than pocketing 100's of billions of isk.
Now explain how 2 months of waiting isn't being patient. Whether or not I had crayons up my nose is irrelevant. The only relevant things here are when the money will be refunded or the lottery drawing takes place. Again, go crawling back to BIG and get back to work (you are surely an able prostitute).
All right, that is enough.
/me sighs...
This is my main, I can't prove it, and I don't care. I'm probably two to three times the age of my stalker... I'll live - TornSoul has said he's working on a solution, I'm good with waiting for it to develope.
Now... TL;DR for Mr. "Definite Alt".
Yeah, I'm good with it lasting two years, and, tbqh - I actually hope TornSoul DOES do the "bug-out boogie" with the Isk. I would feel bad for my lost $$$$$, and for all the others who lose isk, but, I would survive.
Because I would always have, like a warm ember, the image of some immature person, teenager, 20-something, 30, 40 - doesn't matter - emo-raging over internet spaceships pixel money. So yeah, I'm good with two years.
And that would be worth the price of admission.
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.09.25 17:43:00 -
[527]
internet spaceships are business dont you know, tbh if the lotto sells out im not sure will want the actually titan or if they just gonna sell it on
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Daemonspirit
An Android Lust
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Posted - 2009.09.26 12:42:00 -
[528]
Originally by: mentalmackem
internet spaceships are business dont you know, tbh if the lotto sells out im not sure will want the actually titan or if they just gonna sell it on
Sorry, must have missed that part of the tutorial...
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
General Wiggles
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Posted - 2009.09.26 17:57:00 -
[529]
2 tickets bought,
free bump!
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Secret Bear
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Posted - 2009.09.27 21:02:00 -
[530]
whooo i got my tickets!
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Thanatomania
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.09.28 23:19:00 -
[531]
Bought some, free bump.
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Oghma Grianainech
Minmatar
Quam Singulari
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.09.29 11:44:00 -
[532]
Eat your losses and make the draw already. The longer you wait, the more you lose what little credibility you have left.
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James Malice
Gallente
Legion Of Mad Cats
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Posted - 2009.09.29 18:37:00 -
[533]
Originally by: Oghma Grianainech
Eat your losses and make the draw already. The longer you wait, the more you lose what little credibility you have left.
I wonder if this guy has even read the thread.
They arn't the ones with the titans, thay are simply holding the lottery for someone else. If they change the rules without the titans owners permission they are breaching contract and that will destroy ALL of their creditability.
Clear Skies 1 - Awesome
Clear Skies 2 - Amazing
Clear Skies 3 - It's gonna be epic biatches |
Oghma Grianainech
Minmatar
Quam Singulari
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.09.30 00:42:00 -
[534]
Edited by: Oghma Grianainech on 30/09/2009 00:43:34
Originally by: James Malice
Originally by: Oghma Grianainech
Eat your losses and make the draw already. The longer you wait, the more you lose what little credibility you have left.
I wonder if this guy has even read the thread.
They aren't the ones with the titans, thay are simply holding the lottery for someone else. If they change the rules without the titans owners permission they are breaching contract and that will destroy ALL of their creditability.
It does not matter whos or what or which is the owner of the titans, people will only remember Ohh that BIG lottery as in BIG. It's like if you go to Mac'Ds and the coffee is worst then ever, you don't know or even bother to know that it's Fairtrade labelled coffee beans that is bad, it's Mac'D coffee that you remember. And if you look at the lottery it is sold and run by BIG as the BIG epic triple titan draw as was advertised.
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James Malice
Gallente
Legion Of Mad Cats
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Posted - 2009.09.30 05:39:00 -
[535]
Originally by: Oghma Grianainech
Edited by: Oghma Grianainech on 30/09/2009 00:43:34
Originally by: James Malice
Originally by: Oghma Grianainech
Eat your losses and make the draw already. The longer you wait, the more you lose what little credibility you have left.
I wonder if this guy has even read the thread.
They aren't the ones with the titans, thay are simply holding the lottery for someone else. If they change the rules without the titans owners permission they are breaching contract and that will destroy ALL of their creditability.
It does not matter whos or what or which is the owner of the titans, people will only remember Ohh that BIG lottery as in BIG. It's like if you go to Mac'Ds and the coffee is worst then ever, you don't know or even bother to know that it's Fairtrade labelled coffee beans that is bad, it's Mac'D coffee that you remember. And if you look at the lottery it is sold and run by BIG as the BIG epic triple titan draw as was advertised.
That doesn't change the fact that they're under contract and have to do what they're doing until they get permission to do something else, otherwise no one will ever do business with them again. Just like Mc.ds can't searve another brand of coffee untill their contract with their current supplier expiers. :P
Clear Skies 1 - Awesome
Clear Skies 2 - Amazing
Clear Skies 3 - It's gonna be epic biatches |
Boreas Valiant
Gallente
Hipernova
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Posted - 2009.09.30 14:40:00 -
[536]
Edited by: Boreas Valiant on 30/09/2009 14:42:46
How many tickets left to run this lottery?
Isn't there any clause in the contract that preview that kind of situation?
Because, common, it's ridiculous make everyone wait so long.
Big or no, Deal with your loss and fulfill your agreement with us, we did our part.
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TheSmotPoker
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Posted - 2009.09.30 23:46:00 -
[537]
Bump for the never ending Lotto
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Daemonspirit
An Android Lust
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Posted - 2009.10.01 15:49:00 -
[538]
Edited by: Daemonspirit on 01/10/2009 15:50:48
Originally by: Boreas Valiant
Edited by: Boreas Valiant on 30/09/2009 14:42:46
How many tickets left to run this lottery?
Isn't there any clause in the contract that preview that kind of situation?
Because, common, it's ridiculous make everyone wait so long.
Big or no, Deal with your loss and fulfill your agreement with us, we did our part.
Go back and read the first page. Lottery runs until 30K tickets are sold.
Originally by: TornSoul
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The BIG "Triple Titan" Lottery ends when 30,000 tickets have been sold.
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Big has said that a solution is being worked on. Maybe the people BIG LOTTERY has the contract with are being arses. Big Lottery is stuck in the middle, but afaik - 30K is the "end date".
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
Ceme
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Posted - 2009.10.01 16:53:00 -
[539]
4 please, isk sent.
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Agrilad
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Posted - 2009.10.01 18:26:00 -
[540]
Maybe I'll buy another 10 here in a bit.
Well I had the thought that BIG should just buy out the 183 bil in tickets that are left. Which gives them >60% odds on winning each Titan. Then they can turn around and have another auction that is more likely to happen properly. 1 Titan at a time.
I suppose if BIG did this, I'd be annoyed but it would be the same as if all the tickets sold anyways.
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CCK RAISINBRAN
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Posted - 2009.10.01 18:31:00 -
[541]
Originally by: Daemonspirit
I am Daemonspirit--Defender of BIG. I post here more than BIG does. I am important. You can tell by all the posts.
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.10.01 21:38:00 -
[542]
Originally by: CCK RAISINBRAN
Originally by: Daemonspirit
I am Daemonspirit--Defender of BIG. I post here more than BIG does. I am important. You can tell by all the posts.
Quote for lulz and bump.
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.10.03 00:44:00 -
[543]
Originally by: McMelch
Originally by: CCK RAISINBRAN
Originally by: Daemonspirit
I am Daemonspirit--Defender of BIG. I post here more than BIG does. I am important. You can tell by all the posts.
Quote for lulz and bump.
Selfquote for some bump
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Thanatomania
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.10.03 23:09:00 -
[544]
Whats going on in this thread? (bump)
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.10.03 23:29:00 -
[545]
Originally by: Thanatomania
Whats going on in this thread? (bump)
Only sum bamping
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Dylon Xavier
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
The Transcendent
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Posted - 2009.10.04 18:11:00 -
[546]
Originally by: TornSoul
Just a quick heads up.
The SolutionÖ is being worked on. Just taking a bit longer than hoped for.
I will warn you before hand though that it's probably more "a solutionÖ" than "The SolutionÖ", so don't go over-hyping.
And some part of it might not yet pan out quite as I hope for, and some already hasn't.
But it will at least be SomethingÖ, that much I can promise
(Please note and enjoy/dispair over the clever/stupid use of capitalization)
That was almost 2 weeks ago. Any idea how much longer |
Vultureian
Minmatar
Demon Theory
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Posted - 2009.10.04 19:56:00 -
[547]
up
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Oghma Grianainech
Minmatar
Quam Singulari
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.10.04 21:11:00 -
[548]
Edited by: Oghma Grianainech on 04/10/2009 21:14:28
Edited by: Oghma Grianainech on 04/10/2009 21:12:46
Originally by: James Malice
Originally by: Oghma Grianainech
Edited by: Oghma Grianainech on 30/09/2009 00:43:34
Originally by: James Malice
Originally by: Oghma Grianainech
Eat your losses and make the draw already. The longer you wait, the more you lose what little credibility you have left.
I wonder if this guy has even read the thread.
They aren't the ones with the titans, thay are simply holding the lottery for someone else. If they change the rules without the titans owners permission they are breaching contract and that will destroy ALL of their creditability.
It does not matter whos or what or which is the owner of the titans, people will only remember Ohh that BIG lottery as in BIG. It's like if you go to Mac'Ds and the coffee is worst then ever, you don't know or even bother to know that it's Fairtrade labelled coffee beans that is bad, it's Mac'D coffee that you remember. And if you look at the lottery it is sold and run by BIG as the BIG epic triple titan draw as was advertised.
That doesn't change the fact that they're under contract and have to do what they're doing until they get permission to do something else, otherwise no one will ever do business with them again. Just like Mc.ds can't searve another brand of coffee untill their contract with their current supplier expiers. :P
You obviously know nothing about fastfood or fairtrade.. 1st fairtrade is not a brand it's a label used by many brands under certain agreements....just like oxfam is not a brand but a label which is also used by many brands, 2nd MacD's and fairtrade do not have a executive agreement :) try again. Anyway fact remains BIG reputation is gone based on this lottery either the said titans or the lottery will take place now and trying to charge for refunds is yet another ripoff. At this point, tornsoul would be better off pocketing the iskies and telling everyone to just gtfo :P cause the reputation is gone anyway.
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Zelmorph
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Posted - 2009.10.05 08:28:00 -
[549]
if u want full payment for the titans you should put them on auction instead of lottery.
lottery is gambling and not as safe as an auction please end this lottery now. this is the biggest epic failure i ever seen. I dont think there are anymore ppl that wants to buy more tickets since nothing is happening. it was a good idea but its too big, way to big and ppl are buying tickets for more faster lotterys.
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.10.05 20:47:00 -
[550]
Originally by: McMelch
Selfquote for some bump
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Denidil
Gallente
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.10.06 03:34:00 -
[551]
how many tickets have been sold? do the damn drawing already. i only bought one ticket fortunately but DO THE DRAWING ALREADY.
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Zelmorph
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Posted - 2009.10.06 09:15:00 -
[552]
Tickets sold so far : 11.826 of 30.000
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.06 18:51:00 -
[553]
Don't you get it? There isn't EVER going to be a drawing. It's a SCAM. BIG has finally traded their reputation in for ISK. There is NO WAY they are ever going to sell the 30k tickets. NEVER. Congrats BIG on potentially the biggest non-corp theft scam EVAR.
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.10.06 19:47:00 -
[554]
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
Don't you get it? There isn't EVER going to be a drawing. It's a SCAM. BIG has finally traded their reputation in for ISK. There is NO WAY they are ever going to sell the 30k tickets. NEVER. Congrats BIG on potentially the biggest non-corp theft scam EVAR.
Your name suits you.
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.06 20:51:00 -
[555]
Ahhh, McBelch. I see Daemonspirit brought in a replacement alt to defend BIG. So are all of you working out of the same account? Or are you different guys who take turns trying to prolong the SCAM?
If we're all going to wait until 30k tickets are sold, we're going to be waiting a very, very long time (thats forever, in case you weren't paying attention). So what excuse will you be giving today? If you've got answers, let's hear them. If not, just STFU already. This isn't even your thread (or is it?). |
Vultureian
Minmatar
Demon Theory
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Posted - 2009.10.06 20:53:00 -
[556]
*sigh*
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McBelch
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Posted - 2009.10.06 23:57:00 -
[557]
Edited by: McBelch on 06/10/2009 23:58:39
Posting here to confirm that I actually exist. And that i am on the same account with McMelch.
Anyways, No. I am not trying to prolong any Scam. I just don't believe that is a Scam.
Ofc you're partly right. If we really have to wait until the Tickets are sold out, this Lottery will never end.-> Which would make the Lottery a Scam.
But at the Moment, I still hope for the "Solution" TornSoul talked about.
And No, McMelch and me are NO Alts from Daemonspirit. I just decided to fall for the Flamebait, which is your Name.
And may I ask, why should I STFU? Just because it's not "my Thread"? So why should you be allowed to post Flames in here again? I bet "Dumb Jerk" doesn't have bought any Tickets, in Contrast to McMelch. And that gives McMelch (so me) far more rights to Post in this Thread than you.
But with one thing we all (The Hopefull, the Hopeless, The Flamers, The Flamerfighters) agree, I think: A Solution anytime soon is very important for those who bought Tickets and for BIGs Reputation, which has suffered hard already.
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Oghma Grianainech
Minmatar
Quam Singulari
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.10.07 14:32:00 -
[558]
Originally by: McBelch
Edited by: McBelch on 06/10/2009 23:58:39
But with one thing we all (The Hopefull, the Hopeless, The Flamers, The Flamerfighters) agree, I think: A Solution anytime soon is very important for those who bought Tickets and for BIGs Reputation, which has suffered hard already.
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BIGs rep is already gone. Logical choice :P Take iskies and run.. REFUND THE ISKIES BIG or RUN just do it already.
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.07 14:45:00 -
[559]
Actually, I do have tickets. Under another character, obviously. I chose the alt name "Dumb" for that reason. I was dumb to have bought into a lottery in EVE. I really should have known better.
Perhaps it hasn't occurred to anyone here, but the way this thread keeps going with lots of comments from people like us, it's definitely never going to sell 30k tickets. What I find suspicious at this point isn't the lack of response from BIG, it's the assertion that he has a "deal" with others that he has to follow through on. If that is the case, he's burning down BIG's rep for an anonymous industrialist. Which seems odd, given that no one in the general EVE public is likely to trust BIG again. If he cared about BIGs reputation, he would simply say to the industrialist, see, it didn't work out. I'm refunding the money. If you don't want to do business with BIG again, great. If not, I'm not worried because the people who participate in my lottery know they can trust me and thats more valuable.
But he isn't, hasn't, doesn't. That's the tip-off. That's how you know this thing has moved into scam territory. |
DarkAvenger DK
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Posted - 2009.10.08 08:04:00 -
[560]
Soo its been a while since BIG and the team has respondet ... there is alot of us that have isk in on the line for this lottory so i surgest you should show your face and tell us its not happening or refund the damn isk !
Sincerely :
an Annoyed player.
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Paul Barker
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.10.08 11:26:00 -
[561]
seriously, its obvious no one else is buying tickets now, so either refund or man up and state it was a very clever scam
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Rebnott Valeri
Scoopex
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Posted - 2009.10.09 12:31:00 -
[562]
Any update about this?
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.09 14:34:00 -
[563]
See BIG take the money.
See BIG run.
Run, BIG, run. |
mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.09 17:21:00 -
[564]
any news BIG?
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.10.10 20:16:00 -
[565]
Bump for ... dunno what. Bump.
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Liandra Xi
Amarr
Nitro Corp
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Posted - 2009.10.11 09:47:00 -
[566]
Edited by: Liandra Xi on 11/10/2009 09:50:30
Edited by: Liandra Xi on 11/10/2009 09:49:48
Well this thread is interesting now. Few thoughts, one thing is that since day 1 its said in the OP "The BIG "Triple Titan" Lottery ends when 30,000 tickets have been sold.". The fact that I, and obviously a lot of other people, were too naive/ignorant to realise it would take a damm long time to sell 30K tickets, is not the sellers fault. Caveat emptor and all that, that term has always been 100% clear from day one. I'm glad I only bought 1 ticket myself since I didn't realise the implication of the 30K ticket cap until recently.
Secondly, while I understand its in my own interest to buy more tickets to help fill the quota faster, I am no longer willing to buy tickets now (beyond the one I already bought) that I fully understand the terms of the lottery properly, ie: that its going to take forever one way or another to hit 30K. If this means that by being too honest everyone else is too discouraged to ever buy more tickets in this now and it tanks, well eventually I would expect to get my money refunded when this is cancelled, otherwise the investment is merely written off, thats what gambling is people, dont gamble what you're not prepared to lose, ever.
Presuming that BIG does care about its ability to conduct future massive lotteries like this, sooner or later either BIG themselves or the providers of the Titans will have to back down and compromise on the terms of the lottery one way or another. All that is predicated on the assumption that in the meantime either party doesn't decide its not worth the s**t anymore and pulls out entirely. Personally I am betting if the providers pull out BIG will buy new titans, amend the terms, and draw the lottery. I can't really see BIG breaching the agreement with the suppliers, unless the problems with this start to affect sales of their normal lottery to the point where they have no choice but to cut ties with the providers in order to maintain confidence with their customer base. Fact is the providers dont have a single cent of the money from the lottery sales yet, assuming that BIG is stating the truth that they still hold all the funds - which I am not questioning myself, so eventually the providers will probably realise that with the dropping price of Titans its better for them to "cut their losses" or their profits as the case may be here and allow BIG to amend the terms and draw the lottery, or they will gamble on Titans being buffed not nerfed in Dominion and will hope that will result in faster sales to the 30K ticket cap post-patch, either option is a big gamble for them as well.
Only time will tell in the end, still, this thread is somewhat amusing as to the fact that the learning curve in EVE can't really be that hard when so many obviously intellectually challenged members of our society do play the game, and even know how to post on forums as well, lol!
<insert random 2 cents statement here>
edited for spelling.
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.11 19:55:00 -
[567]
They got the money, hey
You know they got away
They headed down south and they're still running today
Singin' go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
--Steve Miller Band "Take the Money and Run" |
TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.12 00:55:00 -
[568]
As I was going to the FanFest, I decided I might as well try and "spam" the venue area a bit to see if we could get some more tickets sold.
So we put up posters (spammed) the venue area in high-traffic places (the venue *was* called Jita IV afterall)
Pic1
Didn't take pictures of them all - But heres a few (and the last couple are actually acciential, only noticed when going through my FF pics )
BTTL1
BTTL2
BTTL3
BTTL4
BTTL5 Can you spot it?
BTTL6 Bit easier on this one
It was quite interesting, that when we went around putting up the posters, we got approached by people everytime, and had a quick chat about the BTTL.
It definatly seems awareness is there (ie. as far as I recall, everyone knew what it was about)
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I've given it a weeks time, in order to be able to see if it has had any effect on ticket sales at all.
So did it?
Err - No
Not entirely unexpected tbh.
But I thought it was worth a shot, seeing as I was going to FF anyhow
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And theres more (and better ) stuff in the pipe line yet (still unsure if it will all go as planned etc - But we'll see)
BIG Lottery |
mentalmackem
Antares Shipyards
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.12 01:37:00 -
[569]
no offense torn but on the 10 of sept, over 1 month ago now, your posted that u were working on the solution and we would know it by that weekend, over a month later we still duno what that solution was gonna be and now ure claiming ure a working on another idea, i begining to wonder if u have ideas or if ure just keeping us sweet cos u say u have ideas but u never tell anyone
just my 2 cents
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HelloCutiePie
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Posted - 2009.10.12 04:44:00 -
[570]
Take the first 10k tickets and hold a drawing. Either refund the 10k+ tickets or apply them towards the next titan on the list.
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Soldur
Helljumpers
Double Dietsch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.10.12 12:43:00 -
[571]
haha nice torn afraid i could not bring myself to go to FF I'd rather kill myself.. Actually i'd rather go there and find the GM that never replaces my ship beat him up then ask him if his logs indicate that he just got his ass kicked.
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MTI Manager
Memphis Technical Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.12 21:36:00 -
[572]
Sorry Torn - too little too late mate.
Nice try but come on man accept it, it is over.
Freighter BPC Bundles all available and Cheap.
Capital Component BPC's all ME 120 loads in stock.
Capital Mods, Weapon and Fighter BPC's, Cheap |
Skulls VonTote
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Posted - 2009.10.12 22:06:00 -
[573]
BIG = Blundering ISK Grabbers?
Bladfaced ISK Greed?
Bastages in Girly-clothes!
Well, no matter what the name means, they are FAIL. |
Aurorae Andromedae
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Posted - 2009.10.12 23:00:00 -
[574]
Originally by: TornSoul
As I was going to the FanFest, I decided I might as well try and "spam" the venue area a bit to see if we could get some more tickets sold.
So we put up posters (spammed) the venue area in high-traffic places (the venue *was* called Jita IV afterall)
Pic1
Didn't take pictures of them all - But heres a few (and the last couple are actually acciential, only noticed when going through my FF pics )
BTTL1
BTTL2
BTTL3
BTTL4
BTTL5 Can you spot it?
BTTL6 Bit easier on this one
It was quite interesting, that when we went around putting up the posters, we got approached by people everytime, and had a quick chat about the BTTL.
It definatly seems awareness is there (ie. as far as I recall, everyone knew what it was about)
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I've given it a weeks time, in order to be able to see if it has had any effect on ticket sales at all.
So did it?
Err - No
Not entirely unexpected tbh.
But I thought it was worth a shot, seeing as I was going to FF anyhow
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And theres more (and better ) stuff in the pipe line yet (still unsure if it will all go as planned etc - But we'll see)
Worst milking attempt, ever...
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Lag Generator
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.10.13 06:34:00 -
[575]
Originally by: Skulls VonTote
BIG = Blundering ISK Grabbers?
Bladfaced ISK Greed?
Bastages in Girly-clothes!
Well, no matter what the name means, they are FAIL.
People who bought tickets to this are fail, BIG are brilliant. They've never actually risked anything, or invested anything, but have made people hand them 100-s of billions of ISK. While most of the coercing is done by the players' peers, not BIG itself.
It would take 10-odd of these triple titan lotteries, which computes to several years apparently, for them to legitly earn the money they've already been trusted with. I think it's already a done deal that there will be no titans drawn (hardly even to shills as a spectacle), but as posting once a month with vague promises is enough to lure a couple more ticket buyers in, I suppose it's worth keeping the thread and hopes alive. All in all, very impressive job by BIG.
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MKV SKRALL
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Posted - 2009.10.13 07:59:00 -
[576]
not sure about everyone else but im quite enjoying the thread now. 10m to watch the show seems pretty reasonable tbh.
if its a scam then the isk's lost.... but, if its real, you dont get drawn and the isk's lost. people are *****ing like this was a sure thing.
what are you complinaing about, youve got 2 lotteries for the price of one. is it real? 50/50 - will you win? much worse odds there.
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.13 15:05:00 -
[577]
Congrats. Your last post said nothing, added nothing, resolved nothing, and had a calorie count of 0 (so you've got that going for ya, which is nice).
I've noticed that you are most likely to post after the accusation of SCAM gets loud enough. Then you chum the water a bit.
Doesn't appear to be working this time though. It's over. Face it. It didn't work. Refunds all around. |
Boreas Valiant
Gallente
Hipernova
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Posted - 2009.10.13 16:38:00 -
[578]
Edited by: Boreas Valiant on 13/10/2009 16:39:55
What if you don't sell more tickets?
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Selinus
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.10.13 20:50:00 -
[579]
Is this still going on...?
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.13 20:57:00 -
[580]
Originally by: Selinus
Is this still going on...?
Yes, the SCAM is still going on. No, there will never be a drawing for the Titans. |
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Skulls VonTote
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Posted - 2009.10.13 21:33:00 -
[581]
Yes, I'm sure the Goons planned this whole thing at the BoB BBQ.
Hmmm, maybe BoB reformed in to BIG? That would explain the massive fail! |
Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.10.14 19:46:00 -
[582]
Originally by: Kel Nissa
Edited by: Kel Nissa on 24/08/2009 23:13:31
Its simple: Get the peoples trust back. (You are already on track there)
And convince them that its their own interest to find other players willing to participate the lottery :)
Without enough players -> 6 month to wait. So its really the best interest of all players to find more participants.
Its all about marketing :)
Create a sig for participants - probably this will draw some attention.
Edit:
Quote:
If this lottery was about a single titan, I wouldn't be the least bit of interested.
This!
Quoting for truth.
Also i will be buying between 100-200 tickets over the weekend
Lets see if we cant get the ball rolling :D
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Skulls VonTote
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Posted - 2009.10.14 20:41:00 -
[583]
Originally by: Ji Sama
Also i will be buying between 100-200 tickets over the weekend
...and this is your brain on drugs?!?
Enjoy funding BIGs scam!
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.10.14 21:21:00 -
[584]
I still don't believe this is a scam. But even with someone buying 200-1000 Tickets alone, this won't help. This Lottery will never end, because no one will buy more tickets. Some Think this is a scam and post that ofc here, some think "this will never end anyway, so i won't put more money in it" (like me). Thats why this Lottery will never be sold out.
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.15 14:27:00 -
[585]
Now you too can join the fun in the Market Discussion thread.
Torn: what will you do if the lottery doesn't sell out in the next 6 months? What if it doesn't sell in the next 12 months?
You owe it to us to be straightforward. Your continual avoidance of the issue does you no good, does us no good, does the situation no good. The fact that you treat your customers with such contempt and disrespect is proof that you don't deserve whatever good reputation you've managed to garner.
It would also be nice if BIG alts stopped posting like they were real customers (idiolectics). |
TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.15 17:31:00 -
[586]
Lol - You really are quite the litte attention craving Duracell Bunny aren't you
Well, this once (I'm in that kinda mood today), let me make your attention craving little day (sorta )
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Just because you open your gab and blabber on, or anyone else for that matter - blabber or not, it doesnt mean that there suddenly is anything new to report.
If there is news/changes I'll post.
If not, I don't particularly feel compelled nor required to post - Just to repeat what I said in my last (or previous) post(s).
If this isnt enough to fuel your need for attention - Tough luck really.
And I especially don't feel compelled to post/reply to anything, when the tone is such as yours - Quite the contrary (thats a hint btw)
I have little patience for idiots - Intelligent/interesting questions on the other hand...
Some will call that bad customer service - I call it not letting my time be unnecessarily wasted.
And you've yet to ask something that isn't already answered - The one exception was in the MD forum, to which I replied.
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Let me repeat from my last post : "Things are being worked on".
When (and indeed if) those plans comes to fruition, you will be informed.
Until then, sit tight.
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Happy now?
(That's called a rhetorical question OK )
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Oh and - Alt posting. ROFL. The irony....
BIG Lottery |
Black Necromunger
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2009.10.15 17:41:00 -
[587]
Has anyone been able to verify their purchase? I sent ISK the 11th, used the IGB w/ trusted site, and no ticket is found.
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.15 17:52:00 -
[588]
Try and remove the site from the trusted list - and then re-add it.
Very annoying bug - But out of my hands to do anything about.
If it still doesnt work... You might want to double/triple check who you sent the ISK to, and if the text in the reason box was correct.
BIG Lottery |
T'Amber
ships of eve
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Posted - 2009.10.15 18:41:00 -
[589]
11.879 tickets sold. About to break my record for this year :(
Free Events (Click!)
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.15 20:02:00 -
[590]
Edited by: Dumb Jerk on 15/10/2009 20:02:52
Well, well, the high and mighty finally responds. I think a majority of people would say that a month old post doesn't count as an update. Saying "something is being worked on" is about as much of an update as a newscaster saying "something happened today." Your general attitude sucks. You can't even bring yourself to deal with your clients politely. If you haven't handled this in the month since you last posted, why should anyone believe that you ever will? What could possibly hold you up for over a month? What could possibly take that long to "work on"?
So, I ask again:
What will you do if the tickets don't sell in 6 months? What if they don't sell in 12 months? They're simple questions. Answer them. |
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.15 20:08:00 -
[591]
Bunny bunny bunny bunny
BIG Lottery |
Beast necromancer
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.15 20:25:00 -
[592]
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
Edited by: Dumb Jerk on 15/10/2009 20:02:52
Well, well, the high and mighty finally responds. I think a majority of people would say that a month old post doesn't count as an update. Saying "something is being worked on" is about as much of an update as a newscaster saying "something happened today." Your general attitude sucks. You can't even bring yourself to deal with your clients politely. If you haven't handled this in the month since you last posted, why should anyone believe that you ever will? What could possibly hold you up for over a month? What could possibly take that long to "work on"?
So, I ask again:
What will you do if the tickets don't sell in 6 months? What if they don't sell in 12 months? They're simple questions. Answer them.
Even though he does post and post and post he does have a pont torn you do side step questions with answers like "i answered that in my last post" which is a month old you seem to be doing jack all to get this sorted and in no way willing to refund anything to anyone so yes as everyone keeps saying you are scamming everyone and never plan to give our isk back eith say yes you scammed everyone or refund the tickets (with no admin fee) it's not our fault you ****ed up.
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ChuMak
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Posted - 2009.10.16 06:18:00 -
[593]
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
Edited by: Dumb Jerk on 15/10/2009 20:02:52
So, I ask again:
What will you do if the tickets don't sell in 6 months? What if they don't sell in 12 months? They're simple questions. Answer them.
OMG.  What's the idiot. I beg you STFU, will ya? If you were such a moron who couldnt even read Terms of Lottery before buying the damn tickets, its only and ONLY your problem, and TS has absolutely nothing to do with it. Terms of lottery are not containing any info on the timeframe of lottery. Got it ? No time information, comprende ? If it will take 100 years, so be it. It doesnt violates Terms of lottery, which YOU were AGREED to at the moment of buying the freaking tickets. Therefore stop whining and go to do your homework.
Hint: The problems which you are referring to are DNA related, unfortunately.
Check out chromosome #21.
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.16 14:48:00 -
[594]
It's really quite simple. Instead of random people shouting into the thread that the Terms of the Lottery are clearly stated, why doesn't Torn/BIG state that? In fact, that's the one thing they've never said. Torn said that he's "working on a solution." Which implies that, in fact, the terms of the lottery will change. So, if you're going to get all hostile (you really are a punk btw), why don't you take your brilliant () legal mind and follow the logic all the way through?
Again, 2 simple questions for BIG and Torn. What will you do if the tickets don't sell in 6 months? What will you do if the tickets don't sell in 12 months?
If the answer is, "we're gonna keep going until all of the tickets sell, even if they never do" just say it, Torn. Why WOULDN'T you say that, if those are the terms of the lottery? Its obvious, right? Because then no one would buy them.
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Nguyen Phred
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Posted - 2009.10.16 19:39:00 -
[595]
I forgot I had a ticket until I saw the BIG lottery scam thread on C&P. Someone is a little worked up about the whole thing. Any news? Or should I go back to forgetting I had a ticket? |
McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.10.16 21:03:00 -
[596]
Edited by: McMelch on 16/10/2009 21:03:15
Originally by: Nguyen Phred
I forgot I had a ticket until I saw the BIG lottery scam thread on C&P. Someone is a little worked up about the whole thing. Any news? Or should I go back to forgetting I had a ticket?
I think you can go back to forget your Ticket. I'll go cry about my 131 Tickets :D
I should go call myself dumb jerk...
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Gurenn Lagann
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Posted - 2009.10.17 11:15:00 -
[597]
Longest lottery I've been in was 3 and half months. Patience is a virtue. There is a hudge amount of tickets to get sold. Give it time, and it'll eventually go through.
If you needed that isk so bad youreself you shouldnt have bound it up in a lottery you are most likely to loose anyway
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AdmiralDovolski
Gallente
Nutz N Boltz
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.10.17 17:49:00 -
[598]
poasting to give support to tornsoul, you guys have no idea how much time and effort these things take. give him time, and there will be winners
EOH poker Senior banker, currently suffering from signerfitis
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Mr Twister
Minmatar
starvald emurlahn
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Posted - 2009.10.17 18:01:00 -
[599]
Originally by: AdmiralDovolski
poasting to give support to tornsoul, you guys have no idea how much time and effort these things take. give him time, and there will be winners
I can second that. I have no life now, although atleast Torn Soul will get paid for his time...
-T'amber
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Noun Verber
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Posted - 2009.10.18 04:31:00 -
[600]
Edited by: Noun Verber on 18/10/2009 04:33:50
Can we get an estimation of how many/what per cent of tickets are currently unsold?
The 'update' is getting old.
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.18 06:43:00 -
[601]
Edited by: Dumb Jerk on 18/10/2009 06:43:34
The totals, dates, etc. are available on their website:
http://bttl.big-eve.com/TicketList.aspx |
M0535
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.10.18 06:49:00 -
[602]
10 please, isk sent
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Daemonspirit
An Android Lust
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Posted - 2009.10.18 14:38:00 -
[603]
/bump
Keep it at the top.
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.10.18 23:23:00 -
[604]
1 Billion ISK sent @ 100 Tickets
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.19 17:33:00 -
[605]
Originally by: Ji Sama
1 Billion ISK sent @ 100 Tickets
According to the ticket list, that isn't true. 1 billion in tickets is 100 tickets.
Here's the list. Note the time stamp on the last entry of the ticket list. It follows this posting and your other posting on the Market Discussion forum by more than 6 hours. I'll try again at the 24 hour mark. I would hate to think that you were misrepresenting yourself or that you were yet another alt posting on Torn's behalf, like Daemonspirit, who seems to care so much about BIG that it is obvious he's with BIG.
BTW, Torn, I noticed that you have actually slightly (and I mean very slightly) increased the rate of ticket purchase since I began posting to this thread. You should thank me. Of course, that doesn't solve the problem. At this rate, 30k tickets won't be sold in the next two years. |
Skulls VonTote
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Posted - 2009.10.19 21:51:00 -
[606]
Dumb Jerk - you seem to be one of the smart ones here...
...but just to be clear:
This Lotto is no more! It has ceased to be! Its expired and gone to meet its maker! The lotto is a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the forums it'd be pushing up the daisies! Its metabolic processes are now history! Its off the twig! Its kicked the bucket, its shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-LOTTO!!
p.s. Yes, "Ji Sama" is a TornSoul alt...
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McMelch
Sacred Templars
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.10.20 15:27:00 -
[607]
Originally by: Skulls VonTote
p.s. Yes, "Ji Sama" is a TornSoul alt...
Proof?
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2009.10.20 18:00:00 -
[608]
Originally by: McMelch
Originally by: Skulls VonTote
p.s. Yes, "Ji Sama" is a TornSoul alt...
Proof?
Why would they do something logical and back up a single claim they've made? Its easier to NERDRAGE OMFG SCAM with an alt over and over again. Typical of the "I WANT IT NOW!" instant gratification crowd.
For all the alts who aren't pleased with official statements and other people acting like its the end of the universe, patience is a virtue. Take a single step back and take a moment to comprehend the scope of the lotto. A lotto this size has never been done before, they weren't going to sell out over night.
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Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space
Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2
WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Aurorae Andromedae
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Posted - 2009.10.20 18:35:00 -
[609]
Originally by: Ji Sama
1 Billion ISK sent @ 100 Tickets
LMAO
Go girl, milk that cow!
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.20 20:04:00 -
[610]
Originally by: Artemis Rose
Typical of the "I WANT IT NOW!" instant gratification crowd... patience is a virtue.
Are you implying that 2 1/2 months is instant gratification? Perhaps for Ents and Elves, but that's a different game.
Had you not fallen prey to the character flaw you find in others, you would have taken a moment to look at the tickets page of their website. You would have seen quite clearly that at the rate of 1 to 5 tickets per day, the lottery will sell out in a few years. I'm afraid that's well outside anyone's definition of a reasonable amount of time.
You would also have read the last few pages of this thread and discovered that I am asking two simple questions. Neither of which involves a demand of specific action. I'll use this opportunity to ask them again: what will BIG do if the lottery doesn't sell out in 6 months? What if it doesn't sell out in 12 months?
If someone wants me to stop asking what the plan is, all BIG has to do is answer the questions. It could not possibly be any simpler. |
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tre introv
Diadochi Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.20 21:39:00 -
[611]
Originally by: TornSoul
Each ticket costs 10 million ISK, with no limit on amount of tickets.
Each ticket is valid for all 3 draws (so 10 million ISK could win you 3 titans!)
30,000 tickets will be sold, for a total of 300 billion ISK.
Send your ISK to BIG Games in multiples of 10 million ISK, with reason Titan (make sure it's the *exact* text)
Originally by: TornSoul
The BIG "Triple Titan" Lottery ends when 30,000 tickets have been sold.
I bolded the important parts from the OP, it looks to me like the question has been answered for you.
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.21 06:28:00 -
[612]
Scroll up and back. There's a little more to it.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2009.10.21 06:32:00 -
[613]
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
If someone wants me to stop asking what the plan is, all BIG has to do is answer the questions. It could not possibly be any simpler.
Okay, fair enough. Wait... what's this?
Originally by: TornSoul
Let me repeat from my last post : "Things are being worked on".
When (and indeed if) those plans comes to fruition, you will be informed.
Until then, sit tight.
Originally by: TornSoul
Until then, sit tight.
Originally by: TornSoul
Until then, sit tight.
Seriously? I think deep down you are posting with your alt because you know how daft you sound.
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Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space
Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2
WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Oghma Grianainech
Minmatar
Quam Singulari
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.10.21 08:35:00 -
[614]
As "whatever" as Dumb Jerk may sound to people, he does make one valid arguement thou.
Why does TS make annoucements about " things are being worked on " when TS says he won't change the lotto contract? All in all, this whole lotto does sound like a pretty good scam.
1. 30K tickets will never sell now, only a fool would think it could.
2. TS -> I won't change the contract but things are being worked on.
3. TS replies on any other one of his threads while totally ignoring this thread. ( click on his portrait and check the posts he has made )
4. No end in sight and rumours of the Titan owners having pulled out and one of them already lost. ( no official reply )
At this point, I am inclined to think TS is just dragging it along to scam more dumb asses who actually would buy a ticket or two then one day he will announce " Thank you for all the fish everyone. "
Just my 2cents and no I don't care what your flame or thought is only what TS has to say.
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ctttttttt
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.10.21 15:14:00 -
[615]
***S!!!!!
i bought 1 ticket and im going to win all 3 muhahahahahhahaha
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.21 15:44:00 -
[616]
Artemis, you're kidding, right?
The questions, once again, are:
1. What will BIG do if the lottery doesn't sell out in 6 months?
2. What will BIG do if the lottery doesn't sell out in 12 months?
"Until then sit tight" in no way answers either question. Torn could answer the questions directly and easily: "If the lottery doesn't sell out in 6 months, we'll keep going. If the lottery doesn't sell out in 12 months, we'll keep going." So why doesn't he just say that?
The bottom line is, everyone knows that despite whatever the first page of this thread says, the idea of going on forever is ridiculous. Plain and simple. Does BIG really want to wear a neverending lottery as an albatross around its neck? No. Will they end it at some point? Obviously they're going to have to, if they don't want this thread popping up once a day forever. So why not get on top of this thing now and give people back they're money? |
Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.10.22 01:47:00 -
[617]
back to the top :D
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.22 13:55:00 -
[618]
Ji, it's refreshing to see that you decided to stop pretending like you weren't a BIG alt. However, you need to read the rules on bumping threads. |
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CCP StevieSG
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Posted - 2009.10.22 16:02:00 -
[619]
Please refrain from excessively bumping this thread. Using alts to bump threads is also against the forum rules. StevieSG
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Minmatari One
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Posted - 2009.10.23 16:39:00 -
[620]
Originally by: CCP StevieSG
Using alts to bump threads is also against the forum rules.
Did StevieG just out your alt? You should complain.
This lottery is FAIL.
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Tash-Murkon Prime Industries
Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.10.23 17:44:00 -
[621]
Originally by: CCP StevieSG
Please refrain from excessively bumping this thread. Using alts to bump threads is also against the forum rules. StevieSG
Fail...
I would like Stevie the oppertunity to quit his day job, he is apparently not very good at it.
I am not an alt of TS, and if he just had a minimum of moderator rights, he could check the fracking IP.
I have posted from the same IP for years.
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Daemonspirit
An Android Lust
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Posted - 2009.10.24 02:06:00 -
[622]
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
FAP, FAP, FAP
Believe Stevie was talking about Dumb Jerk...
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
ANSWER MY QUESTIONS! (/stamps widdle bootie in his sleepies....
/bump
And I'm not a TS alt either...
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
McMelch
Sacred Templars
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Posted - 2009.10.24 22:39:00 -
[623]
Originally by: CCP StevieSG
Posted - 2009.10.22 16:02:00
So, now some bump.
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Thanatomania
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.10.26 08:44:00 -
[624]
TornSoul, can you put a link to this thread on your bttl page to make it a bit easier to watch for updates to this lottery?
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uperkurk
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Posted - 2009.10.26 13:38:00 -
[625]
Why wasnt there any 3rd party holding the titans?
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.26 18:51:00 -
[626]
Originally by: Thanatomania
TornSoul, can you put a link to this thread on your bttl page to make it a bit easier to watch for updates to this lottery?
Any actual changes will be reflected on the website as well as posted here.
Until then, simply BM this thread (I have )
BIG Lottery |
Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.26 19:33:00 -
[627]
Originally by: uperkurk
Why wasnt there any 3rd party holding the titans?
Good question. Also interesting: CCP StevieG's post was followed by one from Ji Sama (calling for StevieG to get another job) and one from Daemonspirit (trying to say that StevieG's quote was actually about me). Both of them have been removed by CCP. Proof positive that both are Torn alts. Since Ji Sama "bought" 1 billion in tickets, it seems clear that we're never getting our money and there will never be a drawing for this lottery. Enjoy your small piece of EVE history: you (and me) are part of the group conned in the largest EVE scam ever. |
SpudderNut
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Posted - 2009.10.26 19:42:00 -
[628]
Interesting....
If this is a scam wouldnt this have an impact on the relationship with CVA? Pirating scamming blah blah blah is against thier policy I thought. Will this corp still be set blue/neut to CVA? I wouldnt think so, but who am I.
Curious factoid and being a scammed amarr citizen I feel thier bennies should not exist in cva anymore.
Just my $0.02
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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2009.10.27 06:33:00 -
[629]
Originally by: Mr Twister
Edited by: Mr Twister on 17/10/2009 18:10:20
Originally by: AdmiralDovolski
poasting to give support to tornsoul, you guys have no idea how much time and effort these things take. give him time, and there will be winners
I can second that. I have no life now, although atleast Torn Soul will get paid for his time...
*Edit (Opps wrong character T'amber)
Mr Twister
Ill third this thing again (again? can that be done? dont know but it needs to be said)
I have known BIG and TS for a good six years now and I can tell you AGAIN that this in no way is any kind of scam.
This is a service that TS has decided to provide, more than likely from a third party who had requested it of him. This was requested of him because of BIGs and TS's reputation of trustworthiness. That kind of reputation doesn't just fall in your lap because you did a few good deeds and ran a few auctions. That kind of reputation comes from years of hard work and consistent reliable results.
If you could come to realise the time, effort and sacrifice (yes sacrifice as many times BIG has had to fund on their own the lottery prizes of the BIG Lottery)that has gone into THE premium lottery in Eve, you would eat your words and slink away into a dirty corner and beg for forgiveness.
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Daemonspirit
An Android Lust
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Posted - 2009.10.27 12:25:00 -
[630]
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
Edited by: Dumb Jerk on 26/10/2009 19:36:29
Originally by: uperkurk
Why wasnt there any 3rd party holding the titans?
Good question. Also interesting: CCP StevieG's post was followed by one from Ji Sama (calling for StevieG to get another job) and one from Daemonspirit (trying to say that StevieG's quote was actually about me). Both of them have been removed by CCP. Proof positive that both are Torn alts. Since Ji Sama "bought" 1 billion in tickets, it seems clear that we're never getting our money and there will never be a drawing for this lottery. Enjoy your small piece of EVE history: you (and me) are part of the group conned in the largest EVE scam ever.
Sorry to disappoint you m8 - I'm my own person. Personally, I've always thought you were an alt of "definite alt", but tbqh - I don't care.
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2009.10.27 12:38:00 -
[631]
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please refrain from flaming and discussing who owns what alt in this thread. This is a lottery from BIG and you can buy tickets or not as you see fit.
Derailing this into a discussion thread may result in warnings being issued.
It is worth noting that a lottery of this magnitude may take a little longer than usual to sell the allotted tickets. Please be patient.
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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tre introv
Diadochi Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.27 13:54:00 -
[632]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please refrain from flaming and discussing who owns what alt in this thread. This is a lottery from BIG and you can buy tickets or not as you see fit.
Derailing this into a discussion thread may result in warnings being issued.
It is worth noting that a lottery of this magnitude may take a little longer than usual to sell the allotted tickets. Please be patient.
Obviously a TS alt...
Buy more tickets folks!
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Minmatari One
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Posted - 2009.10.27 15:08:00 -
[633]
When did CCP decide to get involved in player businesses? A CCP employee saying "it may take longer than usual, be patient" is an ad for the OP. Why would or should a CCP employee care what is going with this lottery? Is it because CCP did a story on the lottery in the CCP news? Are we looking at another employee with ties to players? If Navigator is getting involved in giving us news about the progress of the lottery, will Navigator be explaining anything else about the lottery? Should we go to CCP and Navigator for our money if the angry guy turns out to be right? Does Navigator have information about the situation that we don't? How? So, Navigator, tell me, how long will the lottery take and when it would be okay with you to start raising a stink about it? |
BP Buyer
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Posted - 2009.10.27 15:44:00 -
[634]
According to the ticket list, the first tickets were sold on 2009/08/06.
If I would whine that much as you ladies, everytime I put a billion ISK BPO into a 90 days research, I wouldn't make a dime.
Don't play with money, you don't want to loose.
*free for delete*
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Soldur
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:22:00 -
[635]
Edited by: Soldur on 27/10/2009 16:23:49
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Please refrain from flaming and discussing who owns what alt in this thread. This is a lottery from BIG and you can buy tickets or not as you see fit.
Derailing this into a discussion thread may result in warnings being issued.
It is worth noting that a lottery of this magnitude may take a little longer than usual to sell the allotted tickets. Please be patient.
I have money on the lottery and don't care how it goes but navigator stop promoting the business of the lottery its not your job. If you want to lock the thread or clean it be my guest but other than that keep your opinion to yourself. kthanx
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Jeerin Ubervox
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:34:00 -
[636]
Edited by: Jeerin Ubervox on 27/10/2009 16:34:28
Originally by: BP Buyer
stuff indicating he hasn't read the rest of the posts
Read first, speak later. Everyone should buy lots of tickets cause its totally not a scam. And it totally doesn't matter that it will never end.
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:37:00 -
[637]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ladies and Gentlemen,
<snip>
It is worth noting that a lottery of this magnitude may take a little longer than usual to sell the allotted tickets. Please be patient.
So CCP is encouraging people to send this guy isk?
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Soldur
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:38:00 -
[638]
Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Ladies and Gentlemen,
<snip>
It is worth noting that a lottery of this magnitude may take a little longer than usual to sell the allotted tickets. Please be patient.
So CCP is encouraging people to send this guy isk?
dont worry im sure he has the isk to reimburse all of us if something goes wrong :(
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Prodigal
Caldari
New Genesis Project
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:39:00 -
[639]
Originally by: Minmatari One
When did CCP decide to get involved in player businesses? A CCP employee saying "it may take longer than usual, be patient" is an ad for the OP. Why would or should a CCP employee care what is going with this lottery? Is it because CCP did a story on the lottery in the CCP news? Are we looking at another employee with ties to players? If Navigator is getting involved in giving us news about the progress of the lottery, will Navigator be explaining anything else about the lottery? Should we go to CCP and Navigator for our money if the angry guy turns out to be right? Does Navigator have information about the situation that we don't? How? So, Navigator, tell me, how long will the lottery take and when it would be okay with you to start raising a stink about it?
Umm, this is not the first time CCP have gotten involved in something the players were doing. A few years back BIG was having a huge lottery in observance of its 2nd or 3rd year running the BIG Lottery. CCP provided them with an Imperial Issue Apocolypse BS to put up as one of the prizes part in thanks to the service that TS and BIG had provided over the years to its community.
This is hardly CCP getting INVOLVED in player business anyways. Its basically a PSA added to a warning for chumps like you. (maybe me too as I am adding to it but its worth taking the hit to defend guys like TS and BIG for what they do for the community).
Before getting too critical of TS, BIG or CCP maybe you shoudl ask yourself what the hell have you done for the Eve Community lately?
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.27 16:49:00 -
[640]
Originally by: Prodigal
Before getting too critical of TS, BIG or CCP maybe you shoudl ask yourself what the hell have you done for the Eve Community lately?
To be quite honest, I'm quite impressed that TS has taken the concept of using the float on a lottery to the logical extreme.
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.27 17:00:00 -
[641]
I did some quick numbers. Taking the last 30 days of ticket sales, and averaging them out, I get an average of 17.466 tickets sold per day, this is reasonably consistent over several different windows over the last 45 days of sales.
I feel it is reasonable to assume, that at this point, the lottery will continue to sell an average of about 17 and a half tickets a day over further timeframes in the near future.
There are 17,905 tickets still available according to http://bttl.big-eve.com/TicketList.aspx.
This lottery should finish on August 15th, 2012 should ticket sales continue at this pace.
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Minmatari One
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Posted - 2009.10.27 17:11:00 -
[642]
Edited by: Minmatari One on 27/10/2009 17:12:44
Originally by: Prodigal
...to defend guys like TS and BIG for what they do for the community. Before getting too critical of TS, BIG or CCP maybe you shoudl ask yourself what the hell have you done for the Eve Community lately?
What, exactly, has BIG done for the EVE community? Is earning a ridiculous amount of ISK a service? What has BIG done? Built orphanages? Fed the homeless? Discovered a cure for cancer? What?
edit: kalrand, what happens to the numbers if you drop out the 100 tickets angry guy says were bought by TS alt? |
T'Amber
ships of eve
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Posted - 2009.10.27 17:13:00 -
[643]
Originally by: Kalrand
I did some quick numbers. Taking the last 30 days of ticket sales, and averaging them out, I get an average of 17.466 tickets sold per day, this is reasonably consistent over several different windows over the last 45 days of sales.
I feel it is reasonable to assume, that at this point, the lottery will continue to sell an average of about 17 and a half tickets a day over further timeframes in the near future.
There are 17,905 tickets still available according to http://bttl.big-eve.com/TicketList.aspx.
This lottery should finish on August 15th, 2012 should ticket sales continue at this pace.
This lotto has now got the record for the most tickets sold this year <grumble>.
-T
(Click!)
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N0AA
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Posted - 2009.10.27 18:04:00 -
[644]
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.27 18:07:00 -
[645]
Originally by: Minmatari One
edit: kalrand, what happens to the numbers if you drop out the 100 tickets angry guy says were bought by TS alt?
100/17.5 = ~5.71
It would add less than a week of time to the lottery.
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Boreas Valiant
Gallente
Hipernova
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Posted - 2009.10.28 14:14:00 -
[646]
Want my money back
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REV001
Caldari
VXR Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.10.28 14:48:00 -
[647]
Think it's time to start reimbursing the tickets sold.
This lottery is going nowhere, at the rate tickets are selling, providing ticket sales contignues at the same pace there will perhaps maybe be a draw in 3 years.
Looks like BIG lottery is turning into BIG SCAM. I'm pretty sure these titans put in the lottery don't even exist, and even if they exist I don't think the the guys selling them are going to wait 3 years on the isk.
Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Lingua Franca
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Posted - 2009.10.28 16:21:00 -
[648]
hate posting with alts. but my main does too much business on the forums. i want my money back too. i bought a bunch of tickets cause i trusted big. i never had any problems before. but this is too much. come on, torn. you have other business interests. some of us are starting to think twice. |
Unity Love
Caldari
Dissonance Corp
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.28 16:49:00 -
[649]
I'm just slightly confused as to whether TS had registered that at current rates this will be finished in 2012.... and thats not taking into account that anybody who wants a ticket has likely brought one....
*me shrugs*
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T'Amber
ships of eve
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Posted - 2009.10.28 18:07:00 -
[650]
Originally by: Unity Love
I'm just slightly confused as to whether TS had registered that at current rates this will be finished in 2012.... and thats not taking into account that anybody who wants a ticket has likely brought one....
*me shrugs*
TBH, I think theres external factors influencing sales aswell, if i go by my last main event, i had already sold 3x as many tickets as the one im running now which is also slow on ticket sales. All the big events/ lottos are selling VERY slowly.
-T
(Click!)
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Dylon Xavier
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
The Transcendent
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Posted - 2009.10.28 18:29:00 -
[651]
Hate to say this, but I too would like my tickets refunded.
I've never had a problem with BIG before, but now i have to wonder.
Dx |
Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.28 18:38:00 -
[652]
It would appear that Navigator's post had unintended consequences. The drumbeats are growing louder. We want our money back. |
Unity Love
Caldari
Dissonance Corp
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.29 13:15:00 -
[653]
Originally by: T'Amber
Originally by: Unity Love
I'm just slightly confused as to whether TS had registered that at current rates this will be finished in 2012.... and thats not taking into account that anybody who wants a ticket has likely brought one....
*me shrugs*
TBH, I think theres external factors influencing sales aswell, if i go by my last main event, i had already sold 3x as many tickets as the one im running now which is also slow on ticket sales. All the big events/ lottos are selling VERY slowly.
-T
Eve financial crash?! At least you're (awesome imo) lotteries have that deadline thingy.
*builds a gold hoarding cave*
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Saithe
Caldari
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.10.29 13:46:00 -
[654]
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
Edited by: Dumb Jerk on 26/10/2009 19:36:29
Originally by: uperkurk
Why wasnt there any 3rd party holding the titans?
Good question. Also interesting: CCP StevieG's post was followed by one from Ji Sama (calling for StevieG to get another job) and one from Daemonspirit (trying to say that StevieG's quote was actually about me). Both of them have been removed by CCP. Proof positive that both are Torn alts. Since Ji Sama "bought" 1 billion in tickets, it seems clear that we're never getting our money and there will never be a drawing for this lottery. Enjoy your small piece of EVE history: you (and me) are part of the group conned in the largest EVE scam ever.
lol someones never heard of the EIB Scam.
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.29 13:53:00 -
[655]
Originally by: Saithe
lol someones never heard of the EIB Scam.
Or Ebank.
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Saithe
Caldari
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.10.29 13:57:00 -
[656]
Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Saithe
lol someones never heard of the EIB Scam.
Or Ebank.
EIB = Eve Investment Bank?
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Kalrand
Charles Ponzi School of Business
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.29 16:26:00 -
[657]
Originally by: Saithe
Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Saithe
lol someones never heard of the EIB Scam.
Or Ebank.
EIB = Eve Investment Bank?
One was two years ish ago, the other like two months.
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Soldur
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.10.30 17:01:00 -
[658]
poasting to bring the flames back to the top
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Supreme Feather
Indigo Rising
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Posted - 2009.10.30 18:28:00 -
[659]
Official statement soon TornSoul?
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.30 18:34:00 -
[660]
Originally by: Supreme Feather
Official statement soon TornSoul?
Yes.
BIG Lottery |
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.31 04:36:00 -
[661]
When?
BIG's Titan Lottery SCAM: Don't Get Fooled. Demand your money back. |
NoNah
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Posted - 2009.10.31 04:58:00 -
[662]
Just curious, I thought I read it somewhere early on, but I can't quite spot it. Is there any option to buying eachothers tickets and such? Ie if someone is about to sell his char, can I through one way or another buy his tickets?
I would imagine this is done by sending a minimal fee to you with a reason including the one buying the tickets name.
For example, I buy all tickets from Mr M, he sends you 1 isk with the reason "Trade: NoNah". It when draw is held it would be a quick search to define if tickets have been sold or not, and it would pretty much void the refund complaints. This would of course only allow for trades of all tickets unless the format of the reason would include ticket ID and one transaction per ticket("NoNah: 17324"). How the trade between the two third parties are done is up to them to solve, and of course a matter of trust.
As far as everything else goes, I'm happy to see there's still people you can trust in eve, that won't bend over because a bunch of alts ask them to, but sticks to the original deal and even goes far enough as to give compensation in terms of no fees for the firesale. And on top of that looks for a mutually acceptable compromise. Props!
Parrots, commence!
Postcount: 714663
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Leneerra
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.10.31 06:54:00 -
[663]
TornSoul, would you accept ebank isk as payment for tickets to this lottery?
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.10.31 16:26:00 -
[664]
Originally by: NoNah
As far as everything else goes, I'm happy to see there's still people you can trust in eve, that won't bend over because a bunch of alts ask them to, but sticks to the original deal and even goes far enough as to give compensation in terms of no fees for the firesale. And on top of that looks for a mutually acceptable compromise. Props!
Has some mutually acceptable compromise been discussed by Torn? If so, could you link it?
BIG's Titan Lottery SCAM: Don't Get Fooled. Demand your money back. |
TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.10.31 23:21:00 -
[665]
Originally by: NoNah
Is there any option to buying eachothers tickets and such? Ie if someone is about to sell his char, can I through one way or another buy his tickets?
I would imagine this is done by sending a minimal fee to you with a reason including the one buying the tickets name.
There is no such option. Sorry.
Originally by: Leneerra
TornSoul, would you accept ebank isk as payment for tickets to this lottery?
No.
As the producers has to be paid, and I wouldnt be able to withdraw ISK from EBANK currently to do so.
(not to mention it would be administrative cumbersome)
BIG Lottery |
TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.11.01 21:08:00 -
[666]
UPDATE (2009.11.01)
Lottery end conditions changed. It will at most run until 2009.11.30
Should all tickets not have sold by then, they will be refunded.
Note that this could take several weeks, due to the amount of tickets!!!
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A little quip :
This decission was in fact made some weeks ago.
The reason for first posting it now, is that I've tried to entice ISD to pick it up - Giving them a "scoop" so to speak.
Even after writting them several times (4 in fact) I've heard nothing back - at all.
Things of "interest to the general public en large" is what I expect to see in the ISD news.
We have here an "event" with 2000+ participants - and a thread (this one) with 60.000+ reads - and another thread (in MD) getting close to 7.000 reads (and couple others spread around)
That apparently doesn't fit the criteria for an ISD news post for some reason...
I personally think it would have been mutual beneficial for all parties involved.
ISD gets a reputation for reporting on things of relevance to many players, and the lottery itself would get some extra exposure, increasing the chance that people would get their ISK's worth (a drawing for 3 titans).
Just had to get that of my chest...
BIG Lottery |
Supreme Feather
Indigo Rising
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Posted - 2009.11.01 21:12:00 -
[667]
Cheers for the update mate
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
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Posted - 2009.11.01 21:28:00 -
[668]
Edited by: Selene D''Celeste on 01/11/2009 21:28:54
Originally by: TornSoul
The reason for first posting it now, is that I've tried to entice ISD to pick it up - Giving them a "scoop" so to speak.
Even after writting them several times (4 in fact) I've heard nothing back - at all.
I was quite happy with the quality feedback and interaction from ISD, getting some news articles published. Yet recently, multiple submissions for multiple-hundreds of player events were ignored. I'm not sure what happened, but I also noticed that the articles about non-pvp player activities also dried up in the past 1-2 months. Shame.
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.11.01 22:50:00 -
[669]
At last. The end is in sight. Thank you for the update. Love how you had to qualify it as having been made some time ago. Wouldn't want to be seen as having given to pressure. Of course not.
BIG's Titan Lottery SCAM: Don't Get Fooled. Demand your money back. |
Asuri Kinnes
Caldari
The Bastards
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.11.02 05:11:00 -
[670]
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
At last. The end is in sight. Thank you for the update. Love how you had to qualify it as having been made some time ago. Wouldn't want to be seen as having given to pressure. Of course not.
God, what a dumb jerk...
oh wait...
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Beast necromancer
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.02 08:18:00 -
[671]
it has taken way to long to come to this conclusion though thank you TS for finally making a desision it's a shame it didnt work would have been a fantastic lottery.
Thanks again for finalising it though.
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T'Amber
ships of eve
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Posted - 2009.11.02 10:11:00 -
[672]
Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Edited by: Selene D''Celeste on 01/11/2009 21:28:54
Originally by: TornSoul
The reason for first posting it now, is that I've tried to entice ISD to pick it up - Giving them a "scoop" so to speak.
Even after writting them several times (4 in fact) I've heard nothing back - at all.
I was quite happy with the quality feedback and interaction from ISD, getting some news articles published. Yet recently, multiple submissions for multiple-hundreds of player events were ignored. I'm not sure what happened, but I also noticed that the articles about non-pvp player activities also dried up in the past 1-2 months. Shame.
The reason for the lack of ISD coverage is due to the nasty haxors where someone penetrated their defences and got some sensitive data pertaining to the ISD members. There was an article on this but I don't have the link sorry. They have just started to get active again as you can see the amount of news articles increases in the last week. I have also being trying to post madly to get their attention. Patience!
-T'amber
..click..
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Ubijalec
Citizens of Atlantis
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Posted - 2009.11.02 10:34:00 -
[673]
Torn - From a rather samll ticket holder thanks for the update.
T'Amber - Nice feed back.
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.11.02 21:03:00 -
[674]
Edited by: TornSoul on 02/11/2009 21:03:30
Originally by: T'Amber
The reason for the lack of ISD coverage
<snip>
Here is what ccp released:
Originally by: CCP Ginger
I'm CCP Ginger, Volunteer Manager for EVE Online.
<snip>
I'm aware of that devblog by Ginger - It's dated 2009.09.23 12:23:23
A week before FanFest'09.
*At* the FF'09 I actually managed to corner Ginger and ask how things where going, if IC was up and running again etc.
His answer was that everything was taken care of etc.
That was a month ago... So the lack of ISD coverage has to have other explanations by now...
BIG Lottery |
Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.11.03 17:35:00 -
[675]
Edited by: Bagehi on 03/11/2009 17:37:28
They plead alcohol?
However:
ISD News Report
It could have just been a massive backlog of submissions they had to go through to get to your submissions.
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.11.03 19:54:00 -
[676]
Oh joy \o/ - At last.
The irony is ofc that I now wish for IC to "wind down" again so that the BTTL news post stays at the top for as long as possible
Good stuff though.
BIG Lottery |
Viceroy Defilus
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.11.03 20:53:00 -
[677]
Instead of returning the isk why don't you hold an auction for at least one titan?
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Ranger002
Minmatar
High Guard Command
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Posted - 2009.11.03 23:21:00 -
[678]
I buys one plz
Your personal liberty is your most prized possession. If you trade it for momentary comfort or security, you will regret it, soon and forever.
ôNutsö û General Anthony McAuliffe
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Java Hun
Rockey Mountain Lumber Co.
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Posted - 2009.11.03 23:32:00 -
[679]
Ill take 3 will send isk asap
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Ebanni
Ebanni Mercantile
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Posted - 2009.11.04 02:13:00 -
[680]
How many tickets remaining?
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Baruc
No.Mercy
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Posted - 2009.11.04 05:38:00 -
[681]
Sent for 3
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Duwane
Stir Crazy Research and Manufacturing
Wicked Nation
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Posted - 2009.11.04 09:20:00 -
[682]
ISK sent for 5 tickets. thanks.
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Titus Balls
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Posted - 2009.11.04 09:36:00 -
[683]
Yea, what the hell I'll take 3 (isk sent) and if I win my corp will love me for we'll have a Titan :)
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Celesta
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Posted - 2009.11.04 17:35:00 -
[684]
put me in for 5 tickets.
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.11.05 17:47:00 -
[685]
Nothing like distorting the truth, huh, TS:
"BIG has extended the drawing date for their "Triple Titan" lottery an additional thirty days..."
There was no end date set. So, how could it be extended? |
Eelis Kiy
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.05 23:31:00 -
[686]
I made a little brown fish
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XvXReaperXvX
Equilibrium Corporation LTD
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Posted - 2009.11.06 00:26:00 -
[687]
Put me in for 2 plz. isk sent
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Goran StarRider
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.11.06 01:27:00 -
[688]
People should note that in the last 3 months, they've sold 12,800 tickets. They are now saying if they don't sell an additional 17,200 in about 26 days, they will cancel the lottery.
You be the judge.
http://bttl.big-eve.com/TicketList.aspx
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Demon Queen
Dragon Highlords
Death Is Everywhere
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Posted - 2009.11.10 19:46:00 -
[689]
this needs love buy some tickets people
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Boppi
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2009.11.15 10:29:00 -
[690]
I'm sure this Lottery will be at least as succesfull as the Triple-Titan-Lottery.
___________________________
1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr |
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Kravek
Lamb Federation Navy
C0VEN
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Posted - 2009.11.18 11:43:00 -
[691]
Better fix the lottery page :)
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Kira Cestral
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Posted - 2009.11.19 08:26:00 -
[692]
One of Three hey, good to know that I will be winning one of those Babies LOL
Got my Ticket (goofed the reason and sent Big email)
Site down as of Nov.19 2009.
Will get at least another ticket, 4 shi zzle!
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Clydar Dramos
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Posted - 2009.11.21 16:16:00 -
[693]
Bumping in the hope that somehow thousands more tickets will sell...
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Saphira Khan
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.22 19:11:00 -
[694]
Can you fix my tickets, i forgot to put a reason ;)
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WeaselBank
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Posted - 2009.11.23 00:01:00 -
[695]
1 ticket bought. back to the top.
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Wimiscal
Specter Syndicate
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.11.24 01:15:00 -
[696]
5 tickets bought bump
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Jacob Grimes
Caldari
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2009.11.24 03:02:00 -
[697]
Originally by: T'Amber
Hi, I suggest:
1) drawing for 3 places and giving out an equal share of isk generated from sales minus your fees.
2) draw for one titan and then sharing the left over pot with the 2nd and 3rd winners minus your fees.
3) draw for one titan and give the leftover tickets entries into one of your standard lottos minus your fees.
Although some people have bought into the lotto because there was three Titans, all the above options drastically raise peoples chance of winning.
There is a massive saturation on the market and everyone is being effected by it (Lottery Providers)
-T'amber
This would seem reasonable and as T'amber said; there's a HUGE saturation atm but you guys also have a big reputation as it were :P so I wouldn't worry about it. The ones complaining either are so poor they shouldnt be playing lotto's in the first place or are just whiny little *****es hoping to make enough noise that they get accomodated. Do what you need to to resolve it within your conscience.
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Pasus Nauran
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.11.26 18:23:00 -
[698]
Tickets bought.
BUMPAGE in hopes of a massive last-minute ticket selling surge.
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Kalar Meldran
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Posted - 2009.11.26 19:37:00 -
[699]
Hah! Pathetic. They're virtually selling 3 titans at 2x what they're worth, and you're all falling for it. I should hold some "lotteries" lolololol. Good luck suckers. :)
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Gladius Longinus
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Posted - 2009.11.27 21:08:00 -
[700]
Greetings TornSoul-IÆm hoping IÆm addressing the correct individual regarding this query? If not, please forgive me and disregard this E-mail.
If you are the correct person, hello again!
As a new-ish player in EVE, I have just for the first time read the Eve Community Newsletter.
IÆd very much like to purchase tickets for the triple titan lottery, but donÆt know how to go about it?
When you say ôSend your ISK to BIG Gamesö, whatÆs meant by that?
Is ôBig Gamesö an Individual or a corporate entity?
Any assistance sincerely appreciated, and again, please do forgive my ignorance in this matter.
If you could send me an E-mail in game to: hamish macKinnon
Thank you again, Cheers and Regards from Canada-Hamish macKinnon
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Ostor LightDust
Gallente
Metra Corporation
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Posted - 2009.11.28 04:39:00 -
[701]
Originally by: Gladius Longinus
Greetings TornSoul-IÆm hoping IÆm addressing the correct individual regarding this query? If not, please forgive me and disregard this E-mail.
If you are the correct person, hello again!
As a new-ish player in EVE, I have just for the first time read the Eve Community Newsletter.
IÆd very much like to purchase tickets for the triple titan lottery, but donÆt know how to go about it?
When you say ôSend your ISK to BIG Gamesö, whatÆs meant by that?
Is ôBig Gamesö an Individual or a corporate entity?
Any assistance sincerely appreciated, and again, please do forgive my ignorance in this matter.
If you could send me an E-mail in game to: hamish macKinnon
Thank you again, Cheers and Regards from Canada-Hamish macKinnon
BIG Games is an individual.
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Also, isk sent.
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MKV DORN
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Posted - 2009.11.28 11:49:00 -
[702]
we're allmost there and its obvious you arent going to sell 16k+ tickets in the last few days after so many months have only shifted 13k odd. so a full refund is on the cards by all accounts.
is there no option available for people to turn down the refund and instead move those tickes to a single titan draw instead?
i couldnt really care less about my 20mil thats in the pot, if it gets me a titan though, that would be something. so how about it TS? |
Subtil34
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Posted - 2009.11.28 14:29:00 -
[703]
If you don't sell all the tickets just do a draw with winner(s) getting the Titan of their choice.
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Tomil
Caldari
Full Contact
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Posted - 2009.11.28 20:28:00 -
[704]
3 tickets
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Lizzy Delmordaine
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Posted - 2009.11.29 16:00:00 -
[705]
Free Bump.
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PLATO24
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Posted - 2009.11.29 22:41:00 -
[706]
5 for me plz sending isk now
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Saphira Khan
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.29 23:13:00 -
[707]
Originally by: Tomil
Edited by: Tomil on 28/11/2009 20:40:01
3 tickets
Can you fix my tickets, i forgot to put a reason
thx
Forget it...
I send 150 mil for tickets and forgot reason the idiot refuses to send it back or fix my tickets..
After a long long discussion the guy seems a complete ***** and his lotteries seem to be to make as much money as possible by human mistakes...
Biggest idiot in game i've ever talked with
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DarkAvenger DK
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Posted - 2009.11.30 02:54:00 -
[708]
so its now the 30/11 - hint hte expiring date on this lottery.. so how far have we come .. just wondering
Dark
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Del Girl
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.11.30 07:17:00 -
[709]
Originally by: Saphira Khan
Originally by: Tomil
Edited by: Tomil on 28/11/2009 20:40:01
3 tickets
Can you fix my tickets, i forgot to put a reason
thx
Forget it...
I send 150 mil for tickets and forgot reason the idiot refuses to send it back or fix my tickets..
After a long long discussion the guy seems a complete ***** and his lotteries seem to be to make as much money as possible by human mistakes...
Biggest idiot in game i've ever talked with
I'll sign that, not very customer focused at all!
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MKV DORN
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Posted - 2009.11.30 16:20:00 -
[710]
Originally by: Del Girl
Originally by: Saphira Khan
Originally by: Tomil
Edited by: Tomil on 28/11/2009 20:40:01
3 tickets
Can you fix my tickets, i forgot to put a reason
thx
Forget it...
I send 150 mil for tickets and forgot reason the idiot refuses to send it back or fix my tickets..
After a long long discussion the guy seems a complete ***** and his lotteries seem to be to make as much money as possible by human mistakes...
Biggest idiot in game i've ever talked with
I'll sign that, not very customer focused at all!
tbh folks, if you cant manage to write "Titan" then id give up hope now.
anyway, torn, your mob awaits....?
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Unity Love
Caldari
Dissonance Corp
Undivided
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Posted - 2009.11.30 16:25:00 -
[711]
Ha, have fun refunding 13,000 tickets.
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.11.30 16:44:00 -
[712]
Well, here we are on the last day. Looking at the increase in sales since you gave an end date, I can't help but think that you could have gotten a lot closer to selling out if you had announced the end date sooner. Oh well. Looking forward to getting my ISK back. Of course, I expect that to take forever too. Maybe you'll surprise us all by having planned ahead for the job. But I doubt it.
BIG's Titan Lottery SCAM: Don't Get Fooled. Demand your money back. |
Peter Powers
FinFleet
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.30 17:49:00 -
[713]
Originally by: TornSoul
That was a month ago... So the lack of ISD coverage has to have other explanations by now...
i have no clue what your so ****ed about,
this lottery was allready covered on the news when it started
something i can only dream off, my 10th lottery,
with a mothership as price did not get any attention at all.
Everanking Lotteries - giving away the cool stuff! |
Lidya
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Posted - 2009.11.30 19:22:00 -
[714]
****ing draw 2-3 winners , 1st as titan, and remaining as isks, is that hard ?
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Covert Carlos
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Posted - 2009.11.30 22:53:00 -
[715]
Keep the ISK, biggest scam in EvE history?
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quard
Minmatar
Propaganda Corp
Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2009.11.30 23:52:00 -
[716]
not a scam just wished 30k tickets where sold i wanted to get a titan or the 50plus billion would be nice too
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Cristal Volinaris
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Posted - 2009.11.30 23:54:00 -
[717]
Originally by: MKV DORN
we're allmost there and its obvious you arent going to sell 16k+ tickets in the last few days after so many months have only shifted 13k odd. so a full refund is on the cards by all accounts.
is there no option available for people to turn down the refund and instead move those tickes to a single titan draw instead?
i couldnt really care less about my 20mil thats in the pot, if it gets me a titan though, that would be something. so how about it TS?
I'd like to see something like this too, though it may be an issue with some people spending their 10 mil expecting three chances at a titan, but then are only given one.
Saphira Khan: Tough. BIG has the exact info regarding the including the reason on both the first page of this thread as well as the Triple Titan Lottery web page. If you can't take the time to double-check your transfer before sending it off, that's your problem.
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.12.01 15:19:00 -
[718]
Edited by: TornSoul on 01/12/2009 15:22:37
As we didn't reach the target of 30K sold tickets - All tickets will be refunded.
2487 unique characters have bought tickets.
2487 is the amount of refunds that has to be made.
Please contemplate that a little while...
It's going to take ages... So please be patient...
As in, this is going to take a week or two.
I once did 300+ payouts, for the AT6 betting, in one go.
That nearly drove me nuts.
This is almost 10 times as many...
So, again, it's going to take awhile to get done - So, patience please.
----
Even though we didn't pull of the target goal of 30K sold tickets, I have to add that 2487 participants in a single event like this is somewhat impressive regardless.
And at a sold ticket value of 136,410,000,000 ISK (136 billion ISK) it's also the largest ever lottery in EVE (so far)
Too bad it's not enough
BIG Lottery |
TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.12.01 16:05:00 -
[719]
Some stats
amount #
10,000,000 1045
20,000,000 290
30,000,000 304
40,000,000 63
50,000,000 334
60,000,000 36
70,000,000 19
80,000,000 8
90,000,000 7
100,000,000 216
110,000,000 7
120,000,000 12
130,000,000 1
140,000,000 2
150,000,000 16
160,000,000 1
170,000,000 3
180,000,000 1
200,000,000 33
210,000,000 1
220,000,000 2
250,000,000 8
270,000,000 2
280,000,000 1
300,000,000 17
320,000,000 1
330,000,000 1
340,000,000 1
350,000,000 2
400,000,000 7
430,000,000 1
470,000,000 1
500,000,000 15
530,000,000 1
550,000,000 1
600,000,000 1
820,000,000 1
1,000,000,000 12
1,310,000,000 1
1,500,000,000 1
1,550,000,000 1
1,870,000,000 1
2,000,000,000 3
4,800,000,000 1
BIG Lottery |
Viceroy Defilus
Amarr
Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2009.12.01 17:46:00 -
[720]
Edited by: Viceroy Defilus on 01/12/2009 17:47:36
OR
you give a titan to first place, and a mothership to second and 3rd place and you've still made a profit.
Give out some prizes and it will take 10 minutes
edit: Refunding the isk after you've collected 130bil pizzes me off more than giving out shottier prizes
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Anita Lazarin
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Posted - 2009.12.01 18:04:00 -
[721]
I have to agree could do a 1 titan and 1 MS lottery, or even just do 3 drawings with each drawing winning 1/3 of the 136b. I am sure people would rather have some sort of a lottery instead of a refund.
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Isa Badger
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Posted - 2009.12.01 19:17:00 -
[722]
Originally by: Anita Lazarin
I have to agree could do a 1 titan and 1 MS lottery, or even just do 3 drawings with each drawing winning 1/3 of the 136b. I am sure people would rather have some sort of a lottery instead of a refund.
I too would love to see a lottery occur in some form. Afterall, it's not the biggest lottery in EVE history unless a prize is actually won.
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.12.01 20:18:00 -
[723]
There can certainly be another lottery, but some of us want out. Its best to refund and then anyone who wants to participate in another titan lottery is free to do so.
I'm glad to see TS follow through on this. |
Casec Jas
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.12.01 20:51:00 -
[724]
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
There can certainly be another lottery, but some of us want out. Its best to refund and then anyone who wants to participate in another titan lottery is free to do so.
I'm glad to see TS follow through on this.
True. Maybe if TS creates a new lottery (with less lofty sales goals), he can advertise it in the return Money Transfer reason (with a simple web address), or simply state something like "New Lottery Coming Soon". You'know, just a little advert to remind the 2000+ Triple Titan ticket buyers that something new is being setup.
Just a thought!
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Drain Bamaged
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Posted - 2009.12.02 10:40:00 -
[725]
Quote:
UPDATE (2009.11.01)
Lottery end conditions changed. It will at most run until 2009.11.30
BTW it is past (2009.11.01)
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Saul Reaver
Caldari
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.02 12:59:00 -
[726]
Edited by: Saul Reaver on 02/12/2009 13:00:39
Quote:
And at a sold ticket value of 136,410,000,000 ISK (136 billion ISK) it's also the largest ever lottery in EVE (so far)
If this is correct then why don't you just buy a Titan and a Mothership and draw a winner (gets Titan) and a runner up (gets MOM)?.
The isk you have left over should make you a tidy profit, winners get their shiny new ships and you don't have to refund over 2k people. Everyone is happy.
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MKV SKRALL
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Posted - 2009.12.02 14:26:00 -
[727]
Originally by: Saul Reaver
Edited by: Saul Reaver on 02/12/2009 13:00:39
Quote:
And at a sold ticket value of 136,410,000,000 ISK (136 billion ISK) it's also the largest ever lottery in EVE (so far)
If this is correct then why don't you just buy a Titan and a Mothership and draw a winner (gets Titan) and a runner up (gets MOM)?.
The isk you have left over should make you a tidy profit, winners get their shiny new ships and you don't have to refund over 2k people. Everyone is happy.
you, me and a ton of others would be happy with that. but some tarts actually expected to win all 3 titans with 1 ticket and wont settle for anything less. obviously this is a better solution but i cant see it happening unfortunatly. |
TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.12.02 16:14:00 -
[728]
Originally by: MKV SKRALL
you, me and a ton of others would be happy with that. but some tarts actually expected to win all 3 titans with 1 ticket and wont settle for anything less. obviously this is a better solution but i cant see it happening unfortunatly.
This. Unfortunatly.
Believe you me - I'd much rather not have to do ~2500 refunds....
BIG Lottery |
Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2009.12.02 16:34:00 -
[729]
Just gotta say I feel bad for you TS, that many refunds is a pain in the arse.
Kudos for the epic attempt at this lotto. I doubt we will see an attempt this BIG for a long long time.
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Casec Jas
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.12.02 17:17:00 -
[730]
Originally by: MKV SKRALL
you, me and a ton of others would be happy with that. but some tarts actually expected to win all 3 titans with 1 ticket and wont settle for anything less. obviously this is a better solution but i cant see it happening unfortunatly.
It's too bad really. I would love to see something come of this awesome lottery attempt.
TS: please keep up the great work. This one may not have happened, but it shows there are many in the community who'd be more than willing to support a future uber-lottery, and now you know what kind of support you can reasonably expect.
Thanks again!
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MKV SKRALL
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Posted - 2009.12.03 11:09:00 -
[731]
now at least you know how many people are actually playing these lotterys and how many tickets you can expect to shift over a longer span. scale down the next one and let it run again. |
Daemonspirit
Redhawk Tribal Trust
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:04:00 -
[732]
Originally by: MKV SKRALL
Originally by: Saul Reaver
Edited by: Saul Reaver on 02/12/2009 13:00:39
Quote:
And at a sold ticket value of 136,410,000,000 ISK (136 billion ISK) it's also the largest ever lottery in EVE (so far)
If this is correct then why don't you just buy a Titan and a Mothership and draw a winner (gets Titan) and a runner up (gets MOM)?.
The isk you have left over should make you a tidy profit, winners get their shiny new ships and you don't have to refund over 2k people. Everyone is happy.
you, me and a ton of others would be happy with that. but some tarts actually expected to win all 3 titans with 1 ticket and wont settle for anything less. obviously this is a better solution but i cant see it happening unfortunatly.
See the post below, can't even post with his main in a Lottery Thread. Lives up to his name.
This is my main.
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
There can certainly be another lottery, but some of us want out. Its best to refund and then anyone who wants to participate in another titan lottery is free to do so.
I'm glad to see TS follow through on this.
Rest of us knew he would.
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.12.04 18:32:00 -
[733]
Originally by: Daemonspirit
See the post below, can't even post with his main in a Lottery Thread. Lives up to his name... This is my main... Rest of us knew he would.
1. No, its not your main, but you can keep on pretending.
2. Yes, this is not my main, because I'm not stupid enough to post in a thread where the OP has 136 billion to spend on griefing me.
3. To whom does "the rest of us" refer? Certainly not all of the other posters on the previous pages of this thread or all the others on the related threads in other forum sections.
Torn Soul (sorry, I mean Daemonspirit, or Ji, or whoever you're posting with today), why don't you give up on the spin and the insults? This started because you refused to give an answer to a simple question. You denied and misled and were generally disagreeable about the whole thing. Had you bothered to put an end date on it sooner, you would have sold more tickets. And avoided a run in with me.
I would not have done any of this or persisted for so long had you not been so rude and dismissive. Because you treated me and your other clients with such incredible disrespect, I did what any good consumer advocate does, agitate. When the big boys don't want to do the right thing and you don't have the power to force them to do it, its your only recourse. While you have denied it, it worked.
It should be noted that as soon you posted an end date, I made one last post, changed the title of my MD thread, and stopped posting. I'm happy to admit that I was wrong: the Triple Titan Lottery is not a scam (contingent on the actual refund of ISK to all players). And I'm glad it wasn't. It was just poorly handled. I wish TS and BIG good luck and future success. |
Dylon Xavier
Ascendant Strategies Inc.
The Transcendent
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Posted - 2009.12.05 03:00:00 -
[734]
Just outta morbid curiosity... the ingame reciept page doesn't seem to be working.
I'm assuming cause of the new IGB (Google Chrome).
Can you set it up so we can view our reciepts, maybe outta game?
Thanks again, and please post up if you're gonna do another lotto.
Dx |
Daemonspirit
Redhawk Tribal Trust
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Posted - 2009.12.05 12:09:00 -
[735]
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
2. Yes, this is not my main, because I'm not stupid enough to post in a thread where the OP has 136 billion to spend on griefing me.
May not be your main (as this is mine) but the name is spot on.
Just wish BIG had done a kiter. Your reaction to that would have been priceless...
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
MKV SKRALL
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Posted - 2009.12.05 18:11:00 -
[736]
the prblem, dearest DJ, is its now screwed the rest of us over. no, i didnt expect the thing to go on for months or even years, but when entering a lottery with no end date just a ticket number to reach, you accept that you have to wait as long as it takes. its like calling a british gas engineer.
try having a punt on a dog or a horse then asking for the rules to be changed halfway through the race. im guessing the tote wouldnt be too accomodating.
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ctttttttt
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.12.06 14:54:00 -
[737]
Damn i really wanted to see this happen. I bought 1 ticket i was gunna win all 3!
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.12.06 18:53:00 -
[738]
Originally by: MKV SKRALL
the prblem, dearest DJ, is its now screwed the rest of us over. no, i didnt expect the thing to go on for months or even years, but when entering a lottery with no end date just a ticket number to reach, you accept that you have to wait as long as it takes. its like calling a british gas engineer.
try having a punt on a dog or a horse then asking for the rules to be changed halfway through the race. im guessing the tote wouldnt be too accomodating.
Actually, I never asked for a rules change. I asked 2 questions: what will BIG do if the lottery doesn't sell out in 6 months? 12 months?
Had you bothered to read any of the preceding pages, you'd know that.
What's a kiter Daemon? We both know why you didn't extend the lottery any further. But you can keep right on denying it. it's pretty obvious your failure stings. your defensiveness gives you away. just like it did the first time a couple of pages back. suck it up already. |
Daemonspirit
Redhawk Tribal Trust
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Posted - 2009.12.07 15:08:00 -
[739]
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
Actually, I never asked for a rules change. I asked 2 questions: what will BIG do if the lottery doesn't sell out in 6 months? 12 months?
Had you bothered to read any of the preceding pages, you'd know that.
What's a kiter Daemon? We both know why you didn't extend the lottery any further. But you can keep right on denying it. it's pretty obvious your failure stings. your defensiveness gives you away. just like it did the first time a couple of pages back. suck it up already.
A kiter is "sailing off with the goods, like a lost kite...". Extra points if you get the reference.
Tell you the truth DJ; at this point, if I had the money from this lottery, it would be a scam, just to watch you wad your diapers into a bunch...
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
McMelch
Sacred Templars
Black Swan.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 16:02:00 -
[740]
Well, anyway. I got my money back. Thank you Tornsoul.
I'm in your next Lottery for sure
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Phoenix493
Orion Capital Consortium
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Posted - 2009.12.08 17:13:00 -
[741]
Got my Refund, thanks TS :)
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Dumb Jerk
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:50:00 -
[742]
Originally by: Daemonspirit
Tell you the truth DJ; at this point, if I had the money from this lottery, it would be a scam, just to watch you wad your diapers into a bunch...
Oh what delicious irony! As you clearly have your panties in a bunch, a little sand in your vagina, and a hair up your behind. The truth about trolls like you is that you're easily ruffled and entirely irrelevant. |
Alweo
Amarr
Magus Initiative
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:52:00 -
[743]
Refund received, thanks - will look out for your next lottery :)
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Guyuti
Gallente
Apple Construction Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:46:00 -
[744]
Refund received Thanks
Shame it did not come off will play again on next one
Guy
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Daemonspirit
Redhawk Tribal Trust
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Posted - 2009.12.10 17:48:00 -
[745]
Originally by: Dumb Jerk
What's a kiter? We both know why you didn't extend the lottery any further. But you can keep right on denying it. it's pretty obvious your failure stings. your defensiveness gives you away. just like it did the first time a couple of pages back. suck it up already.
A kiter is "sailing off with the goods, like a lost kite...". Extra points if you get the reference.
Tell the truth; at this point, if I had the money from BIG's lottery, it would be a scam, just to watch ...
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
Avon Meister
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Posted - 2009.12.10 18:58:00 -
[746]
TornSoul
Thanks for the refund, congrats on the way you handled this lottery and thread, commiserations on having to refund all those tickets and good luck with your next lottery.
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Aloe Cloveris
Broski Enterprises
No Fun Allowed
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Posted - 2009.12.11 11:31:00 -
[747]
Thanks TornSoul, got my refund.
I don't envy you your day(s) of endless: right-click, left-click, type sum, type reason, scrutinize, doublecheck, ohwaittriplecheck, left click, HNNNNNG!-did-my-mind-become-so-numb-doing-this-that-I-typed-in-an-extra-zero-or-two-I'd-better-look-again-for-good-measure, okaynext x >2500. Shame this didn't pan out.
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SOLARISPRIME
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Posted - 2009.12.12 11:56:00 -
[748]
How are you coming with the refunds?
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.12.13 22:50:00 -
[749]
Originally by: Aloe Cloveris
I don't envy you your day(s) of endless: right-click, left-click, type sum, type reason, scrutinize, doublecheck, ohwaittriplecheck, left click, HNNNNNG!-did-my-mind-become-so-numb-doing-this-that-I-typed-in-an-extra-zero-or-two-I'd-better-look-again-for-good-measure, okaynext x >2500.
How painfully accurate...
(Although I do cheat a bit with some copy/paste )
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@SOLARISPRIME
I expect to be all done before the weekend.
(Unless my fingers cramp up on me or some similar such...)
BIG Lottery |
Klokvarg
Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.12.14 04:41:00 -
[750]
verifying that I received my refund. It was an ambitious lottery and I will not hesitate to buy more BIG tickets next time. Although I recommend coming up with some contingency plans for next time if the goals are not met.
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Mr Bright
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.12.17 01:10:00 -
[751]
./Hug Tornsoul :(
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.12.18 11:34:00 -
[752]
Originally by: TornSoul
@SOLARISPRIME
I expect to be all done before the weekend.
(Unless my fingers cramp up on me or some similar such...)
Gonna be a few more days for the last ones... (i.e. end of weekend/start next week)
BIG Lottery |
TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.12.20 16:33:00 -
[753]
OMG - Finally!!!!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
All done - 2500 refunds completed.
There might be a slip or two, I need to wait for the API to come back online to double check everything.
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Shocking amount of people have contacted me with "Why did you send me X million ISK"....
Around 20-25 or so - Which roughly makes it 1%.
1% of EVE players can't recall they bought tickets in a lottery... Wee bit scary I think
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Of all things in EVE I've ever done, this is bar none the one thing I least of all would like to have to repeat...
It's been horrible... Thank God I'm done with it.
Yay \o/
BIG Lottery |
Saphira Khan
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.20 20:09:00 -
[754]
Didnt recieve the refund.
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.12.20 22:38:00 -
[755]
Originally by: Saphira Khan
Can you fix my tickets, i forgot to put a reason ;)
BIG Lottery |
Nguyen Phred
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Posted - 2009.12.21 18:55:00 -
[756]
Hi. I don't think I have received my refund (unless you finishd after 9pm last night). I was one of the people caught up in this:
Quote:
RE: BTTL receipt page not updating
Whoops DB script error...
Resulting in any BTTL tickets bought on or after the 20th getting marked as BIG Lottery tickets instead.
This has now been fixed.
Aka all wrongly marked purchases has been reverted to what they should be (Ie. BTTL tickets instead of BIG Lottery tickets) - and the problem should not arise again.
Will check again when I get home, in case you work late last night! I was looking for cheap bpos, or I would not have seen this thread and remembered I had a ticket either. So I guess count me in the 1%. |
TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.12.22 18:32:00 -
[757]
2009-12-20 14:36:002050870981TornSoulNguyen Phred-10000000
BIG Lottery |
Hunlight Faithus
Heroes.
Primary.
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Posted - 2009.12.22 18:34:00 -
[758]
good job on refund, bet it was great fun :)
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.12.22 18:38:00 -
[759]
I'm now done double checking everything
I've made only a single mistake!! (well two.. but one I caught when I made it)
Out of 2500 refunds! - I'm quite impressed with that myself actually.
The mistake?
Seems I picked the 2nd, instead of 1st, char on the search char result list.
Will send the ISK shortly, and hope the other guy will give back the funds he shouldn't have had.
250M ISK... Expensive mistake (if the other guy doesn't return the ISK)
BIG Lottery |
Saphira Khan
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.22 18:40:00 -
[760]
How much profit did you make on the ppl who forgot a reason or entered a wrong reason?
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.12.22 18:50:00 -
[761]
Zero - As that ISK simply gets rolled into the BIG Lottery (to be used for paying out prizes).
That is, ISK above the max allowed for ticket purchases (currently 10M ISK)
The first 10M ISK is however converted to BIG Lottery tickets.
Exactly as described in the conditions for this lottery.
BIG Lottery |
T'Amber
ships of eve
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Posted - 2009.12.22 19:34:00 -
[762]
I don't envy you that would have taken forever to refund.
-T'amber
SOE4:DOMINATION
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.12.23 21:54:00 -
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It sure did...
I was averaging about 100 refunds per 25'ish minutes.
Lets make it an easy to calc 100 refunds/30 minutes - and you end up with 12.5 hours of utter drudgery...
Not something I'd like to repeat
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KrazyJames
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Posted - 2009.12.26 04:12:00 -
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umm sorry ive been away for a bit but ive noticed Torn that i havnt recieved my refund for the 4 tickets i bought hope you didnt lose me in the shuffle somewhere
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.05 13:36:00 -
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erherm...
2009-12-11 03:42:002007031187TornSoulKrazyJames-40000000.00
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Del Girl
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.01.05 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul
The mistake?
Seems I picked the 2nd, instead of 1st, char on the search char result list.
Will send the ISK shortly, and hope the other guy will give back the funds he shouldn't have had.
As much as a appreciate the work you have had to do refunding us all i hope the guy who you sent ISK to incorrectly doesnt send you it back. Not that it matters to your wealth but if he doesnt you will know what it feels like that when you make a mistake (sending ISK to you with the wrong reason/no reason and not getting a refund).
Del
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.05 21:13:00 -
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The difference being you don't see me b.itch, moan, whine and threaten to declare war over my own bloody mistake do you now.
And yes he returned it, late enough that I thought he wouldn't, so was a happy surprise.
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