It and the whole Goon sponsored mess ARE griefing IMO, no matter how CCP glosses over it.

Find the word Grief or Griefing or any variation in the EULA/TOS/Code of Conduct.

Wow! That hurt OP.

No mid slot shield help? You had a head full of shield implants and not even an Invul field or extender?

But I do agree it's a sad commentary on the state of this game that CCP thinks suicide ganking is a viable form of PvP.

It and the whole Goon sponsored mess ARE griefing IMO, no matter how CCP glosses over it.

It and the whole Goon sponsored mess ARE griefing IMO, no matter how CCP glosses over it.

I have no KM to go on so I will assume you failed to tank your ship while mining when a very well known event was going on.

Year on year EVE has grown and in all that time miners have died.

You are investing time into something you don't really understand, Mr. Successful Real-Life Businessman Married With Children.

You see, this is a video game that focuses on conflict, scamming, violence, murder, and sociopathy. This is not a family-friendly pastime created for the enjoyment and benefit of working family men to unwind after a hard day of shaking hands and having power lunches.

No, your identity is defined as a "highsec miner" and a "carebear."

You do realise that ganking untanked hulks can be done for profit right? And that it has been done for near enough a decade now.

Well known if you keep track of such things, perhaps.
I am a casual gamer with disposable income. Believe it or not, the largest segment of MMO revenue is from just such gamers.

I don't read EVE news. I don't follow the EVE forum.

The first I head of hulkageddon was AFTER I was killed today. And then my reaction went from "oh well" to "why the heck doesn't CCP realize the impact of their inaction". Hence the post.

1.9 bil implants plugged in head, prefers to leave midslots empty rather then fit tanking modules because 'don't have to cuz pvp is optional right?'

OP left out the part about his asian kickboxing girlfriend.

Kaeda Maxwell, nice gank :)

No mid slot shield help? You had a head full of shield implants and not even an Invul field or extender?

I work 72 hours a week so tell me more about being a casual gamer. This was advertised in the news, all over the forums, in just about every local, in most alliances and in all the NPC corps and on EVE radio. You really must ask yourself why you are not interacting with the community on even the most basic level. This was entirely your fault.

A fair point.

I don't read the news.

This is one of my first forum posts in years.

I have not seen it in local or I would have known.

My corp is not in an alliance.

I am not in an NPC corp.

Remember, casual gamer, no EVE radio.

Had I not given the background, you would be accusing me of living on the game and/or in my parent basement. I prefer being attacked for my success.

Further, you can afford to disparage the casual gamer segment and its thoughts. Its $15 a month to you. CCP cannot. Every tenth of a percent in subscriber turnover affects either future development funding or operating income. Eventually that becomes jobs.

Actually thats only one attitude about what it is. And even only one facet of how its advertised. Its also been advertised about being a universe where you can do anything. Make a career that you want. Play the game that you want.

A fair point.

I don't read the news.

This is one of my first forum posts in years.

I have not seen it in local or I would have known.

My corp is not in an alliance.

I am not in an NPC corp.

Remember, casual gamer, no EVE radio.

Find the word Grief or Griefing or any variation in the EULA/TOS/Code of Conduct.

You may not use GÇ£role-playingGÇ¥ as an excuse to violate these rules. While EVE Online is a persistent world, fantasy role-playing game, the claim of role-playing is not an acceptable defense for anti-social behavior. Role-playing is encouraged, but not at the expense of other player. You may not create or participate in a corporation or group that habitually violates this policy.

You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules.

Lesson learned then I take it.

A single gank here or there is one thing. Organized efforts to induce others to participate in such operations is another. Players deriving a large segment of their gameplay from such operations in areas that CCP has ostensibly made it "illegal" to do so should run afoul of the existing rules.

The EVE universe is a harsh universe largely driven by such conflict and notice must be taken of the fact that nonconsensual combat alone is not considered to be grief play per the above definition.

1. You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: petitioning with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or petitions; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.

2. You may not use any abusive, defamatory, ethnically or racially offensive, harassing, harmful, hateful, obscene, offensive, sexually explicit, threatening or vulgar language. (Alternate spelling or partial masking of such words will be reprimanded in the same manner as the actual use of such words.)

3. You may not organize nor be a member of any corporation or group within EVE Online that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies

This includes, but is not limited to, making inappropriate use of any public channels within the game and/or intentionally creating excessive latency (lag) by dumping cargo containers, corpses or other items in the game world.

So...there you go. They've turned the asylum over to the inmates who're convinced they're the true doctors of EVE. And, they think they're smart in doing so. Worse mistakes have been made. They'll walk away with the satisfaction that "There once was this game called EVE Online...and WE invented it." May their grandchildren be pleased to hear this bedtime story.

"So...there you go. They've turned the asylum over to the inmates who're convinced they're the true doctors of EVE. And, they think they're smart in doing so. Worse mistakes have been made. They'll walk away with the satisfaction that "There once was this game called EVE Online...and WE invented it." May their grandchildren be pleased to hear this bedtime story."

and other nonsensical garbage

OP you do realize that your first paragraph is completely irrelevant.

Secondly if you feel that actions of a person or a group a persons is violating the rules then.

Open up a petition, and if you feel that CCP is not giving you a fair review.
You can always escalate it to a senior GM and also contact the CSM to see what they can do for you.
They are supposed to have CCP ear after all.

Best of luck.

Indeed thank you, I have already done so.

Indeed thank you, I have already done so.

True but in the end it would not have mattered, I don't think. I also didn't align to a starbase or anything which I probably should have done as well. I learned several lessons from this. I also started to think about just killing off the multiple accounts I have. Something that others appear to have done before me. At a certain point when an executive asks "why did we lose 2% of our playerbase that we were unable to recover through marketing last month?" hopefully someone understands that inaction in the face of such events may be part of the answer.