They haven't changed it because the voice of changing it hasn't been as big as the people saying its great. The events have never been too long or too destructive, but now you will get more people speaking up about suicide ganking which inevitably forces CCP to take a look at that mechanic because it is causing issues.

And if they decide to "fix" suicide ganking, the hi sec dwellers will have the leaders of these events to thank for it.

This may shock you, but I'd wager a great many gankers do both. Making Hulk miners cry is just one of many things to do in the game.

I will still say CCP, tutorials(yeah the ones that EVERYONE has to do) state that "the good police guys will come and help you, you are safe in 0.5 and above "

It's people like you who decide to make the game dangerous for everyone as it is today because you have too much isk and free time.

Much like the 50 other PvE activities there are to do in game. It's a shame PvP can completely disrupt PvE while PvE cannot in any way disrupt PvP.

tutorials(yeah the ones that EVERYONE has to do) state that "the good police guys will come and help you, you are safe in 0.5 and above "

It's a shame PvP can completely disrupt PvE while PvE cannot in any way disrupt PvP.

And who decides where things should and shouldn't happen? You?

Before you say CCP, remember that they've never prohibited suicide ganking or any other sort of blowing up internet spaceships in highsec. They've tweaked with what gankers are able to do and how they can do it, but at no point have they truly stopped it from happening, even though it'd be the easiest thing in the world to do.

Even the creators of the game don't think hisec should be immune from other players. What gives you and a bunch of other pissy Hulk pilots the right to over-rule them?

How would PvE disrupt PvP?.

Sir I would be delighted, and look forward to meeting and discussing EvE gaming, Philosophy, Etc. in person with some day. Be interesting to see how one of you guys behave in the presents of one of us pussies.

What happens when one of the voices in support of ganking is CCP themselves? Like, imagine if something crazy like a senior producer of Eve describing Burn Jita as "f---ing brilliant" happened. That sort of pushes the removal of ganking beyond a simple balance issue, wouldn't you say?

Goonswarm is bot moon mining, bot ice mining and bot ore mining.

There is almost no activity in this game that isn't considered a form of PvP, whether it's direct or by proxy.

The only way EVE dies is if highsec miners get their way and have CCP remove non-consensual PvP from the game. Since PvP is the only reason why any rational person would choose to play EVE instead of a game with better PvE, PvP is the lifeblood of EVE. You and highsec miners like you are trying to suck the life out of EVE.

Are we supposed to thank you?

Really, do you not understand what i said.

That event happened, it was a limited duration thing, anyone is happy enough to do something like that just for kicks once in a while. Nobody really complained because its a one time thing that was "cool".

Now we're talking about something that is going on way too long than it should, and more and more people are speaking up against it. It's such a big deal that the people funding it are responding to these forums in defense of it.

If CCP says its something that won't be "fixed" then too bad for the people being ganked. But the people speaking up about it have every right to speak up and have every right to be able to enjoy the game how they like.

you're only risking something if you know it's a risk and in the majority of cases that ain't so

you're assuming that fleet fights aren't happening because there aren't any territorial wars going on which is so hilariously untrue you should probably stop posting

the people speaking up about it have every right to speak up and have every right to be able to enjoy the game how they like.

I'm not talking about fighting for territory, that actually is probably one of the most PvE oriented PvP things you can do without completely being PvE.

1. Screenshot please.

2. CCP have stated many times that EVE was designed to be a harsh place. There is very little 'Intended gamplay mechanics' put in place by them. As by design. Players are encouraged to create their own stories. All you really want is another scripted game.

I didn't mean it word for word. Aura says that concord will come to the rescue should you be unjustly attacked, however you are on your own if you steal from someone.

Concord COMES but it doesn't help since the gankers win in the end, see the flaw ? By all means low and null ARE meant to be dangerous and ruthless. I want a game where im not restricted to doing what's favoured by the "big" boys, you know, a real sandbox ?

CCP couldn't have predicted that goons would exists nor that they would abuse the "freedom" given when they launched eve.

I'm saying, don't pvp for territory, find another alliance willing and able to actually fight you for the fun of it.

Concord COMES but it doesn't help since the gankers win in the end, see the flaw ? By all means low and null ARE meant to be dangerous and ruthless. I want a game where im not restricted to doing what's favoured by the "big" boys, you know, a real sandbox ?

No, I get your point. What I'm saying is that ganking is something that not only are they cool with on a philosophical level, they quite like that it's a thing people can do. That's not something they're going to give up easily - like you'd have to be talking cataclysmic levels of unsubs, and even then it might not work since making such a wholesale change to the PVP structure of the game could well cause the rest of the game to unsub in return.

Funny that the original poster of this thread mentioned Star Wars Galaxies, as it fits my point - you cannot make wholesale changes to an underlying philosophy of a game and expect people to stay on board. UO learned this lesson the hard way with Trammell, and SW:G learned it with the NGE. If you care even the tiniest bit about Eve or CCP, hope, pray and do everything you can to make sure they don't do the same thing.

yes lets all listen to the highsec scrublord preach about 0.0 territorial fights while he laments his lost hulk

I didn't mean it word for word.

Concord COMES but it doesn't help since the gankers win in the end, see the flaw ?

I want a game where im not restricted to doing what's favoured by the "big" boys, you know, a real sandbox ?

If CCP comes out and says that they aren't going to "fix" it. then great, we all move on..

You seem to have missed the 'Suicide ganking works as intended' posts by Devs over the years.

Yeah, i suppose it may be a long road if hi sec ganking were to be "fixed". But these "extended" events are going to further increase the number of people speaking out about them. Which will essentially drive the idea of CCP looking into it.

If CCP comes out and says that they aren't going to "fix" it. then great, we all move on.

That was before it started to became a profession and greifing seemed to become an accepted thing, and the risk (no risk) is completely out of kilter with reward.

Goonswarm is bot moon mining, bot ice mining and bot ore mining.

They have enouph protection to be emune from Hulkageddon

CCP you need to take a hard stance against Goonswarm to save EVE and your jobs.

The only reason you are so big is because of high sec and the carebears. Carebears give you and other pirates something to fight against.

I think your going to be playing with yourself!!

That was before it started to became a profession and greifing seemed to become an accepted thing, and the risk (no risk) is completely out of kilter with reward.

Tal