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Kiteo Hatto The Fiction Factory Blue Nation 18	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:14:00 - [31] - Quote Alia Gon'die wrote: Kiteo Hatto wrote: Quote: I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with ** you need to throw it out and get new sand. Its a sandbox where only bullies are allowed to play, everyone else gets told to "adapt" to their way. The irony of it being "the sandbox" game. No, everyone is allowed to play, but everyone plays in the same sandbox, and the strong dictate how things work, because they are able to enforce it. If a big enough group of peaceniks were to take power, they could try to enforce a ban on ganking. Thank you for proving my "adapt" point. It's not a sandbox if WE can't play as WE like. Hell, i don't even mine but i feel sorry for those who do. CCP needs to edit their sign up page "By clicking REGISTER NOW you agree that you are a real ** to those who don't share the same interest or have fun in the same way that you do" So...uh, where is the sandbox ?
Virgil Travis GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated 246	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:15:00 - [32] - Quote Drax Dremal wrote: My point is everyone will be crying when carebears are driven from the game. Im not a carebear but even I realize they are needed to balance the game. There are carebears then there are those who don't have the spine to get off their backsides and do anything when someome comes around trying to kick their sandcastle down. You do not speak for all carebears as this character is one essentially, but he can chew you a new one the size of Scotland if you try anything. The real industrialists, the ones with teeth and balls won't bail like the whiners threaten too, they'll take advantage of the situation and carry on, and have fun doing it, so take your self proclaimed generalisations and peddle them elsewhere, because those of use who can take the game for what it is aren't buying. You leave with nothing, I say good day sir! If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone.
Malice Redeemer Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 118	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:16:00 - [33] - Quote Drax Dremal wrote: Seishi Maru wrote: Drax Dremal wrote: Goonswarm is bot moon mining, bot ice mining and bot ore mining. They have enouph protection to be emune from Hulkageddon so they decided to get rid of the high sec competition. CCP you need to take a hard stance against Goonswarm to save EVE and your jobs. I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with **** you need to throw it out and get new sand. Goonswarm what are you going to to do when only pirates are playing and the player base is so low EVE dies a slow death like Star Wars. The only reason you are so big is because of high sec and the carebears. Carebears give you and other pirates something to fight against. When carebears are gone who are you going to fight then? I think your going to be playing with yourself!! Goonswarm do you think EVE cant die? I played in Starwars from its start until it died. At its high point it was way more popular than EVE will ever be. We thought it could never die. Another game designer is going see that EVE is weak and create another similar game. When it does carebears and your pirate members are going to leave EVE in droves. When it does CCP and Goonswarm are going to be crying! but for now.. youa re the onecrying.. so that means you are loosing. My point is everyone will be crying when carebears are driven from the game. Im not a carebear but even I realize they are needed to balance the game. are they? really? are you sure?
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 24	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:16:00 - [34] - Quote So you admit to being competition for bot mining? I don't think you're as smart as you think we think you think you are.
Cpt Roghie 10	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:17:00 - [35] - Quote Kiteo Hatto wrote: Alia Gon'die wrote: Kiteo Hatto wrote: Quote: I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with ** you need to throw it out and get new sand. Its a sandbox where only bullies are allowed to play, everyone else gets told to "adapt" to their way. The irony of it being "the sandbox" game. No, everyone is allowed to play, but everyone plays in the same sandbox, and the strong dictate how things work, because they are able to enforce it. If a big enough group of peaceniks were to take power, they could try to enforce a ban on ganking. Thank you for proving my "adapt" point. It's not a sandbox if WE can't play as WE like. Hell, i don't even mine but i feel sorry for those who do. CCP needs to edit their sign up page "By clicking REGISTER NOW you agree that you are a real to those who don't share the same interest or have fun in the same way that you do" So...uh, where is the sandbox ? It's got damn a sandbox even though I'm forcing you to not play the way you want. That's the point! Goonswarm has the founding to ** your sand castle over a million times. Deal with it already. Zzzzzzzz.
Karak Terrel As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions 84	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:18:00 - [36] - Quote Drax Dremal wrote: Goonswarm is bot moon mining I think that's what convinced me you know what you are talking about. Didn't read the rest, but i'm sure it's much more rational than all the other countless whining threads about the goons. good job
Joe Richter GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:19:00 - [37] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: What. What? Beep boop please input technetium quantity required. Use /P to specify a specific POS to be harvested for Technetium
baltec1 1254	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:19:00 - [38] - Quote Kiteo Hatto wrote: Alia Gon'die wrote: Kiteo Hatto wrote: Quote: I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with ** you need to throw it out and get new sand. Its a sandbox where only bullies are allowed to play, everyone else gets told to "adapt" to their way. The irony of it being "the sandbox" game. No, everyone is allowed to play, but everyone plays in the same sandbox, and the strong dictate how things work, because they are able to enforce it. If a big enough group of peaceniks were to take power, they could try to enforce a ban on ganking. Thank you for proving my "adapt" point. It's not a sandbox if WE can't play as WE like. Hell, i don't even mine but i feel sorry for those who do. CCP needs to edit their sign up page "By clicking REGISTER NOW you agree that you are a real ** to those who don't share the same interest or have fun in the same way that you do" So...uh, where is the sandbox ? You can play like you like, you simply have to accept the conciquences of your actions.
Fredfredbug4 The Scope Gallente Federation 362	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:21:00 - [39] - Quote Drax Dremal wrote: Goonswarm is bot moon mining, bot ice mining and bot ore mining. They have enouph protection to be emune Stopped reading there. Judging from what I actually read the OP is going to get dumber and dumber.
Alia Gon'die Aliastra Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:26:00 - [40] - Quote Kiteo Hatto wrote: Alia Gon'die wrote: Kiteo Hatto wrote: Quote: I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with ** you need to throw it out and get new sand. Its a sandbox where only bullies are allowed to play, everyone else gets told to "adapt" to their way. The irony of it being "the sandbox" game. No, everyone is allowed to play, but everyone plays in the same sandbox, and the strong dictate how things work, because they are able to enforce it. If a big enough group of peaceniks were to take power, they could try to enforce a ban on ganking. Thank you for proving my "adapt" point. It's not a sandbox if WE can't play as WE like. Hell, i don't even mine but i feel sorry for those who do. CCP needs to edit their sign up page "By clicking REGISTER NOW you agree that you are a real ** to those who don't share the same interest or have fun in the same way that you do" So...uh, where is the sandbox ? The sandbox is right there, you just have to be able to defend yourself from the big mean bully who is also allowed to be a mean bully. If you don't have the skills to defend yourself, too bad, the bully is allowed to do whatever he wants too.
Lady Ayeipsia Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 155	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:28:00 - [41] - Quote Kiteo Hatto wrote: Alia Gon'die wrote: Kiteo Hatto wrote: Quote: I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with ** you need to throw it out and get new sand. Its a sandbox where only bullies are allowed to play, everyone else gets told to "adapt" to their way. The irony of it being "the sandbox" game. No, everyone is allowed to play, but everyone plays in the same sandbox, and the strong dictate how things work, because they are able to enforce it. If a big enough group of peaceniks were to take power, they could try to enforce a ban on ganking. Thank you for proving my "adapt" point. It's not a sandbox if WE can't play as WE like. Hell, i don't even mine but i feel sorry for those who do. CCP needs to edit their sign up page "By clicking REGISTER NOW you agree that you are a real ** to those who don't share the same interest or have fun in the same way that you do" So...uh, where is the sandbox ? According to your logic, I should be able to demand ccp focuses on adding dirt track racing to our sandbox because how I want to play is as the dirt track racing king (or queen, whatever). They should drop all other development because, I want dirt track racing. Sorry, that makes no sense at all. This is a sandbox, but like all sandbox games, there are rules, boundries, and limitations from the game itself. You can't play as a starship pilot in WoW, you can't be a wizard in grand theft auto. And in eve, like it or not, you can't escape pvp. You may not like the adage "adapt" then your other choice is move along, this isn't the mmo you were looking for. As for those claiming the community is less friendly, it all depends where you look. Ample people are helping others out still, don't let the negativity of the forums convince you otherwise.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 4002	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:29:00 - [42] - Quote Drax Dremal wrote: Goonswarm is bot moon mining Thanks for the troll flag in the first 4 words, saved me reading the rest Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Riyal Chode Extravaganza 37	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:30:00 - [43] - Quote OP contains too much stupid to be real (I hope).
Wacktopia Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 251	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:34:00 - [44] - Quote Drax Dremal wrote: Goonswarm do you think EVE cant die? I played in Starwars from its start until it died. At its high point it was way more popular than EVE will ever be. We thought it could never die. Another game designer is going see that EVE is weak and create another similar game. When it does carebears and your pirate members are going to leave EVE in droves. When it does CCP and Goonswarm are going to be crying! However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. Winston Churchill Ironically, SWG died because of game changes not thru lack of them... CCP: Fix Inferno war decs.-áAllies should not be free and unlimited. -á-á
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 4002	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:38:00 - [45] - Quote HVAC Repairman wrote: Drax Dremal wrote: Goonswarm what are you going to to do when only pirates are playing and the player base is so low EVE dies a slow death like Star Wars. light up a cigar We'll need to think of a name for that great day Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 555	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:41:00 - [46] - Quote Drax Dremal wrote: Goonswarm is bot moon mining How does this work? eh
Haldor Rune State War Academy Caldari State 9	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:42:00 - [47] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: Drax Dremal wrote: Goonswarm is bot moon mining How does this work? I'm afraid you'll only find the answer with a Master's Degree in Troll Logic.
Virgil Travis GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated 246	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:43:00 - [48] - Quote Malcanis wrote: HVAC Repairman wrote: Drax Dremal wrote: Goonswarm what are you going to to do when only pirates are playing and the player base is so low EVE dies a slow death like Star Wars. light up a cigar We'll need to think of a name for that great day EVE's final expansion - Entropic Heat Death. If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone.
Jett0 Team Kitty Choke Slam 121	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:43:00 - [49] - Quote Hulkageddon = less miners = higher prices = better mining? Occasionally plays sober
Haldor Rune State War Academy Caldari State 11	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:47:00 - [50] - Quote Jett0 wrote: Hulkageddon = less miners = higher prices = better mining? There are already several (intelligent) miners who said they've been making a killing. If worst comes to worst, CCP can remove player mining altogether and just seed minerals/materials into the game. Hides from Horrible Suggestion Police
Johnny Rook Requiem of the Sinner 9	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:48:00 - [51] - Quote Kiteo Hatto wrote: You can only build your sandcastles by being a bigger bully it seems. The whole game is built around 'might makes right.' How have you only just realised this?
Khadann First Legion 21	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:50:00 - [52] - Quote James 315 wrote: The only way EVE dies is if highsec miners get their way and have CCP remove non-consensual PvP from the game. Since PvP is the only reason why any rational person would choose to play EVE instead of a game with better PvE, PvP is the lifeblood of EVE. You and highsec miners like you are trying to suck the life out of EVE. Are we supposed to thank you? I have not find any mmo with such developed industry/market feature than eve, so i'll stick around :) Saying a single playstyle is the only valid reason to play a sandbox mmo is ridiculous, bad joke at best I don't believe a sandbox could work with only one kind of playstyle, or players which means hulkagedon is somehow ok as well as industry or PVP ect...
Marlona Sky Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies. 990	Posted - 2012.05.30 19:56:00 - [53] - Quote It is threads like this that just reinforce my belief that the character with the most skill points on the account is the only one you are allowed to post on the forums with. Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!
Drax Dremal Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2012.05.30 20:17:00 - [54] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Drax Dremal wrote: Goonswarm is bot moon mining. Thats a new one. A bot program can be written for every part of EVE. A bot program for moon mining is easy and is used.
HVAC Repairman GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 88	Posted - 2012.05.30 20:21:00 - [55] - Quote Drax Dremal wrote: baltec1 wrote: Drax Dremal wrote: Goonswarm is bot moon mining. Thats a new one. A bot program can be written for every part of EVE. A bot program for moon mining is easy and is used. im killing to see data to back this theory
Kiteo Hatto The Fiction Factory Blue Nation 20	Posted - 2012.05.30 20:24:00 - [56] - Quote Quote: Sorry, that makes no sense at all. This is a sandbox, but like all sandbox games, there are rules, boundries, and limitations from the game itself. You can't play as a starship pilot in WoW, you can't be a wizard in grand theft auto. And in eve, like it or not, you can't escape pvp. You may not like the adage "adapt" then your other choice is move along, this isn't the mmo you were looking for. As for those claiming the community is less friendly, it all depends where you look. Ample people are helping others out still, don't let the negativity of the forums convince you otherwise. Today's GD is about what the worst of what i would have seen in crime&punishment back in 2007. The community is **. This IS the mmo that i like, you are just hellbent on not allowing me to ENJOY it. I understand sandbox but there are limits. Right now inmates are running the prison. Its NOT sandbox if you have to stick to a certain gameplay method or you get griefed. Quote: The whole game is built around 'might makes right.' How have you only just realised this? I must be a morally nice person then. I mean, i don't foam in the mouth and shake uncontrollably if i don't get my pvp fix without forcing others to play your way. Oh yeah, i don't mine and this is my only character. Holy ** i got balls to post my opinion with my only toon.
Drax Dremal Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2012.05.30 20:34:00 - [57] - Quote HVAC Repairman wrote: Drax Dremal wrote: Goonswarm what are you going to to do when only pirates are playing and the player base is so low EVE dies a slow death like Star Wars. light up a cigar You might want to save that cigar for the last day of EVE.
Johnny Rook Requiem of the Sinner 9	Posted - 2012.05.30 20:40:00 - [58] - Quote Kiteo Hatto wrote: I must be a morally nice person then. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Q79cIRGek
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 565	Posted - 2012.05.30 20:41:00 - [59] - Quote Drax Dremal wrote: A bot program can be written for every part of EVE. A bot program for moon mining is easy and is used. Okay genius tell us how moon mining works eh
Kiteo Hatto The Fiction Factory Blue Nation 21	Posted - 2012.05.30 20:47:00 - [60] - Quote Johnny Rook wrote: Kiteo Hatto wrote: I must be a morally nice person then. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Q79cIRGek Except the blacksmith is an NPC. Yeah, your video is so vaild. These "pvpers" are so up their own arse they cant see the whole picture of right and wrong. Never mind the "too far" border.

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