Soon the CFC will control all of 0.0
Soon the DRF will control all of 0.0
Soon the NC will control all of 0.0
Soon the RSF will control all of 0.0
Soon the GBC will control all of 0.0

Incorrect. Griefing is not allowed in EVE per EULA -º7g.

True. In 2 years I reported idiots 3 times only for Griefing.

I apparently do not have any idea what Griefing means though. Not a clue. I'll just leave it at that.

Man, these people talking about how empty 0.0 is, you would think they would find ways to bring the peoples living in hi sec out there to fill the void.

But alas, just kill the miners in hi sec and tell them they don't know eve.

Sell me on the concept of removing local that doesn't decimate the population in nullsec. The benefits to living there aren't all that much of an improvement over empire.

Are you for changes to the game that punish the lazy/AFK? Forget about exact mechanic changes, but more so the effect they would bring. Also I am for CCP cutting all amounts of profit from high sec by 50% honestly.

Would be great to have an actual structured civil debate from several people from different parts of the game about certain mechanics that we all use and how/if they should be changed. In no way am I saying I should be one of them, but I still would like to see something like that happen.

Can't say i would support the idea of removing local in known space, it works great in wormholes because you essentially have to scan down what you want to go to and your way out or in isn't always in the same spot.

We have a problem here with people with one track minds that think that simple changes will be all hellfire and brimstone because they supposedly know every single bit of eve and can predict the future outcome of any and all scenarios.

Are you for changes to the game that punish the lazy/AFK? Forget about exact mechanic changes, but more so the effect they would bring. Also I am for CCP cutting all amounts of profit from high sec by 50% honestly.

Would be great to have an actual structured civil debate from several people from different parts of the game about certain mechanics that we all use and how/if they should be changed. In no way am I saying I should be one of them, but I still would like to see something like that happen.

Man, these people talking about how empty 0.0 is, you would think they would find ways to bring the peoples living in hi sec out there to fill the void.

But alas, just kill the miners in hi sec and tell them they don't know eve.

Null has a population?

Twice the size of Empire and 1/5 the population sounds really full out there.

Honestly the only way you industrialists can GǣwinGǥ, or show CCP that its a real issue, is to take some time off from EVE until CCP finally gives you, the miner, something worth paying forGǪ.

Are you aware that by the time an enemy is in local, its already too late if they are at all competent?

Local in nullsec is only powerful in conjunction with intel channels, which require a fair bit of effort and teamwork to maintain and make sure are used.

Are you for changes to the game that punish the lazy/AFK?

AFK

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Fair bit of effort?? Are you being serious?

This whole thread...

If people hadn't cry so much, hulkaggedon, burn jita and the sponsership would not have happen, and high-sec would have been safer.

Crying only makes them want to do it more.

Foolish, foolish people.

I'd be worried about posts like these.

But they wouldn't stop cry if you told them do. And we've tried, trust me

Fair bit of effort?? Are you being serious?

Effort might not be the right word, but it DOES require people (a) paying attention and (b) contributing to the intel channel. Obviously, in a perfect world where both of those happen all the time, it can make null fairly safe. In reality though, this doesn't always work. Even in a region like Deklein, which is heavily populated, people get ganked all the time due to not paying attention. Humans are imperfect at best, and gankers will forever be able to take advantage of that.

I am not really talking specifically about a player relaying intel, but more about the vast amount of intel they are able to relay with extremely little effort in gaining said intel.

What "vast" intel are we talking about here?

You see I don't agree with most of your 'given's'. You're suggesting these poor empire miners have no choice but to quit if they can't mine afk in their hulks ;_;

And you made another post:

etc. etc.

If your god Mittani writes a mixture of messianic Goebels-James 315 rant he's precise, honest and needs worship.

I'll entertrain in the same depth of text. After all GS spent years depicting them as the ultimate, devious evil. It just brings more color on their carefully crafted public image.


Edit: I too fully support removal of local off nullsec. It will be a godsend to bring thrill back where it belongs and to factually declare the death of safe RMT botting.

I still remember when solo I roamed around 5J (not far from old GS sov), all the bears farming PvE in peace in marauders and the cries of horror and local spam as I entered in local with my exceedingly powerful Cyclone. It was priceless.
I still have a jump clone over there just to go out and make them cry in anguish at the very prospect of PvP.

Removing local won't stop bots, it will just make it harder to get them to whitelist you when you are hunting them.

So yeah, I would call that a buff to bots, since its not like they wouldn't do their thing aligned.