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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:26:00 -
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Welcome to Eve. Where battles are fast and furious. Where PVP is intense and quick. Where plexing can be as entertaining as a real PVP fight. Where information and notifications flicker across your screen in the blink of an eye.
And where when you get scrambled, you have no way to know if your overview is 10 miles long.
It used to be that Aura would announce that you are warp scrambled. Now, you get a hundredth-of-a-second notification saying "External factors are preventing operation of this module" or some BS that is two lines long and impossible to read in the heat of a fight.
So I'm in a plex (Serpentis Minor Annex) and here come the rats. I wail on the overseer then plan to get out because they're hurtin' pretty bad. As soon as the overseer drops I click warp to station. A couple seconds later I think "Hm, crappy lag" then notice my shields are still plummeting.
While my shields drop below 30%, I scroll my overview up to the top (sorted by distance) and notice TWO Guardian frigs are scramming me. I race for my drones. I sic em and overload my guns and I'm staring at my shields thinking "I've got 10 seconds to pop two frigs."
Doesn't happen. I explode.
Thanks for the awesome user interface, CCP. Put Aura back where she belongs.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:28:00 -
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Awesome story! Pro tip - your allowed to scoll your overview whenever you want. Im sure you had enough time to check to see if you were warp scrambled while you were killing the overseer.
Whatd you lose?
 Originally by: Akita T
Seriously ?
...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:31:00 -
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Shield tanked Ishtar. But something that is 16x16 pixels is not as loud as something that is SPEAKING TO YOU.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Shield tanked Ishtar. But something that is 16x16 pixels is not as loud as something that is SPEAKING TO YOU.
oh I know. You can... ooh! make your screen resolution smaller, so its 16x16 is bigger!
Originally by: Akita T
Seriously ?
...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
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Nol Agnot
Nightwatch Immortal
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Shield tanked Ishtar. But something that is 16x16 pixels is not as loud as something that is SPEAKING TO YOU.
How would you hear anything in space? Don't tell me there's artificial sound and you got it turned on!
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:33:00 -
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Siigari lost a ship...
In other news, water is wet, fire is hot, and bacon is delicious
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Drunk Driver
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Hoo Is
...and bacon is delicious
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Doktor Feeelgoood
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:57:00 -
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Pilot error tbh
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Cat o'Ninetails
Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:58:00 -
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you seem really angry all the time lol 
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THE L0CK
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:01:00 -
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I always though it was smart to always keep your eyes glued to the overview for those sneaky little warp scrambing frigs
Originally by: Whitehound
If I think, but I do not.
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Jarna
Amarr
Exhumer Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Doktor Feeelgoood
Pilot error tbh
TBH it would be nicer if Aura was more useful during battle.
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BARF CHUNK
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:02:00 -
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SRSLY
For being so far in the future it really is strange how little info there is on wtf is happening to you.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:05:00 -
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Op- Read Live and learn
Reading might save your life.
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WTB a sig, or moderation of my sig by all the hot CCP girls. |
Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
Op- Read Live and learn
Reading might save your life.
I already read that, in addition to having done it a few times.
Shot the gate with one gun. First and second wave spawned.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
you seem really angry all the time lol
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Probably has something to do with her addiction/obsession to this game
I'd be mad too if I spent hundreds of dollars on GTCs, sold them for in-game money, spent in-game money on ridiculous ships and modules, fit my ships horribad, and lost them real fast.
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De Guantanamo
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: BARF CHUNK
SRSLY
For being so far in the future it really is strange how little info there is on wtf is happening to you.
Op's alt spotted.
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Krystal Vernet
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:14:00 -
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Smart solution is to pop every frig as soon as you can get your drones and/or guns in range of them. Overkill, maybe, but then you usually don't have to worry about being scrambled after the last frig pops.
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rodensteiner
Amarr
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Doktor Feeelgoood
Pilot error tbh
Yup, this.
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Janos Ferenc
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: Janos Ferenc on 27/08/2009 16:23:47
On another note, there's this awesome resource that goes by the link of Eve Survival. Any self-respecting carebear that does missions on a regular basis goes over this thing for each mission that they do - so they know what ships trigger spawns, what ships/types/names can scramble them or ECM them. This way, silly things like "I'm not paying attention to overview and got popped 'cause of scramble frigs" don't happen.
Also, in my professional opinion, your Ishtar wasn't setup right anyways. AFK passive shield Ishtar's are really easy to do, and take no real user interaction once you've aggro'd everything in the room. Pop sentries, aggro everything, pull sentries and pop ogre II's - go afk, make a sammich, grab a drink, come back 15-20 minutes later and the room is clear. This is, of course, provided that you've got enough SP's to make this possible.
Edit: I guess I should read the OP more closely, and realize that it was a plex and not a mission. However, I think the rule with the Ishtar setup still applies here.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Janos Ferenc
Also, in my professional opinion, your Ishtar wasn't setup right anyways. AFK passive shield Ishtar's are really easy to do, and take no real user interaction once you've aggro'd everything in the room. Pop sentries, aggro everything, pull sentries and pop ogre II's - go afk, make a sammich, grab a drink, come back 15-20 minutes later and the room is clear. This is, of course, provided that you've got enough SP's to make this possible.
Well, for tanking 1360 DPS, it sure fried me.
Thing is, seconds matter when scrambled, and not knowing it due to a feature that was removed from the game doesn't help.
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CommmanderInChief
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:26:00 -
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to be honest I think CCP do all this on purpose. I think they mean to use stealth killing and im being serious. These are fundamental things you should know when someones attacking you, **** im being scrambled should be screaming at you, **** im being nos'd etc..not some quiet tiny and yes its tiny icon somewhere on overview.
Aura should be utilised more, a bit like in a sci fi film when your onboard computer is telling you wtf is going on! (be funny if it was like red dwarf but wishful thinking)
but i agree totally with op..sorry...
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Xrak
Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:27:00 -
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Web and scramble should be shown in the same way as other EW, with the bar at the bottom.
Simple.
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Black Leather
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Krystal Vernet
Smart solution is to pop every frig as soon as you can get your drones and/or guns in range of them. Overkill, maybe, but then you usually don't have to worry about being scrambled after the last frig pops.
This
I spend a lot of time in plexes. First thing is pull out the hobs and deal with the frigs well before they're in scram range. If you know the plex you will know which ship names are the tacklers, so keep an eye out and deal with them as as they re-spawn. Once the frigs are out of the way pull in the hobs and let out the med/lrg/sentries (whatever your drones of choice) and take out the Overseer at your leisure.
Thing about plexes, especially hacking/analyzing sites is you need to pay attention. Unlike missions that you can basically AFK your way through.
TL/DR: Zoom out, watch overview.
BL
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Neriel Odershank
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
bla bla bla.... rabble rabble.... cry cry.... whinage whinage
noob
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:46:00 -
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Okay I want to be clear here -
I make most of my living in exploration sites. So I'm most definitely not whining about plexes being 'too hard to afk'.
I love plexing, it makes me feel relaxed and it's overall an enjoyable experience.
What I'm upset about is that for about what, eight or nine months now, Aura does not report when you are warp scrambled, when she used to all the time. It was one of my favorite sounds of Eve, actually.
Top 10 favorite sounds in Eve:
1. "Your security status has been lowered."
2. "You are unable to warp because you are warp scrambled."
3. Tachyon Beam lasers
4. Neutron Blaster Cannons
5. believe it or not, "The capacitor is empty."
6. "Warp drive active."
7. Minmatar cruisers engines
8. Old Dreadnought movement sounds (sexy stuff)
9. The alarm for session changes.
10. The old fitting panel dropping and loading the grid.
Anyway, a lot of this stuff is gone now, which kind of tells you how CCP feels about sound :( but I want Aura reporting scrambles.
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Cereah
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:49:00 -
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Hey hows about this...?
Do what I do and save two different fighting overview settings. One that shows the normal stuff, and one that shows JUST ENEMIES.
Only thing you have to do then is actually keep the overview looking at the people targeting you.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Hoo Is
Siigari lost a ship...
In other news, water is wet, fire is hot, and bacon is delicious
Bacon...mmmmm.
/me goes to get some lunch
--Vel
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cereah
Hey hows about this...?
Do what I do and save two different fighting overview settings. One that shows the normal stuff, and one that shows JUST ENEMIES.
Only thing you have to do then is actually keep the overview looking at the people targeting you.
Yeah, that's kinda how I do it :P
Overview and settings
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Haakelen
Gallente
Angels.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:05:00 -
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Perhaps if you spend 3 or 4 more Billion you would know when you were scrambled? vOv
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:07:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Okay I want to be clear here -
I make most of my living in GTC Sales.
Fixed that for you
Pick Three:
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Okay I want to be clear here -
I make most of my living in GTC Sales.
Fixed that for you
Oh man, that's original. Show me a GTC sales post that is recent, k?
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Bklyn 1
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:27:00 -
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Why do people just want to cry l2p when someone points out a shortcoming in the game which could, most likely very easily, be improved. Seriously, if we really were in this sci-fi universe wouldn't we be able to tell our ship's computer that, if we get scrambled or webbed, to make sure it is brought to our attention, not simply noted on a readout.
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Bumblefck
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Okay I want to be clear here -
I make most of my living in GTC Sales.
Fixed that for you
Oh man, that's original. Show me a GTC sales post that is recent, k?
Why bother when you know and we know that currently PLEXs are the ISK-maker du jour, in Chez Kitawa  
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Rie Takahashi
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Bklyn 1
Why do people just want to cry l2p when someone points out a shortcoming in the game which could, most likely very easily, be improved. Seriously, if we really were in this sci-fi universe wouldn't we be able to tell our ship's computer that, if we get scrambled or webbed, to make sure it is brought to our attention, not simply noted on a readout.
You're new here, aren't you.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:37:00 -
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I always felt the ewar icons on the overview was plainly a godsend. The Aura message would get lost in whatever sound/audio/music that was going on.
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Galliana Foresta
Fleeting Moments of Insanity
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:49:00 -
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Eve has sound?
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Sadayiel
Caldari
Silver Snake Enterprise
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:53:00 -
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i'm in the mood so let's troll a bit on a siigari post.
Check your overview your settings are awful!!!
if your running an exploration plex, Why why on eve you use corp/alliance/milita brackets (anything that pops up non npc should be considered hostile asap) also you running a drone ship so i guess that check other ships velocity do wonders so you know if they are mwd to you or not. (in fact they do all npc get to their optimal and stay....)
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While my shields drop below 30%, I scroll my overview up to the top (sorted by distance) and notice TWO Guardian frigs are scramming me. I race for my drones. I sic em and overload my guns and I'm staring at my shields thinking "I've got 10 seconds to pop two frigs."
ever ever keep an eye on close ships, that's quite a basic rule i mean c'mon after all this years on forums you should at least read it once.
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Stil Harkonnen
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:58:00 -
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I think there's an easy fix to this.
Go to your log, and check your freaking settings. I think there's a way to turn off all the damage notifications and you'll only get some warp scrambling and random other **** messages. so you'd probably see it then.
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Cpt Branko
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Galliana Foresta
Eve has sound?
I once replied to a FC that I cannot hear him over the sound of my autocannons.
Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Davich MacGregor
Minmatar
Stellar Products and Quality Resources
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: BARF CHUNK
SRSLY
For being so far in the future it really is strange how little info there is on wtf is happening to you.
This
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Salmeria
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:08:00 -
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while i have never had any problems checking the icon on my overview, there should be a better way of seeing it. maybe a window which shows who is doing what to you. you could even have it so you can target or broadcast whatever about the target too
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Akor Flandres
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:21:00 -
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Quote:
What I'm upset about is that for about what, eight or nine months now, Aura does not report when you are warp scrambled, when she used to all the time.
What the **** are you talking about?
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Liz Laser
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:21:00 -
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That other MMORPG (you know, the one with millions of subscribers) has little icons that show up whenever you are "rooted" or debuffed.
But CCP must figure there's some serious money to be made by keeping players in the dark, I guess.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Akor Flandres
Quote:
What I'm upset about is that for about what, eight or nine months now, Aura does not report when you are warp scrambled, when she used to all the time.
What the **** are you talking about?
Aura used to tell you that you were scrambled when you attempted to warp.
It was pretty macabre, too. But it was reliable, obvious and very loud (back before all the UI sound volumes were nerfed.)
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Krystal Vernet
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Liz Laser
That other MMORPG (you know, the one with millions of subscribers) has little icons that show up whenever you are "rooted" or debuffed.
But CCP must figure there's some serious money to be made by keeping players in the dark, I guess.
Eve has little icons notifying you too. They even tell you which ship is doing it! It's amazing. All you have to do is scan your overview for them. :D
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JCache
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Liz Laser
But CCP must figure there's some serious money to be made by keeping players in the dark, I guess.
They must live in a strange little world when they think they can make money by ****ing their customers off...
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Ferkimer Burns
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:38:00 -
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We need more colors.
Yellow: targeting
Red: shooting
Blue: warp jammer
Orange: ewar
Green: repping
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sooperkool
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:39:00 -
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ITT. OP rages over losing an ishtar because OP wasnt paying attention to overview.
tl;dr
OP rages over losing an ishtar because OP wasnt paying attetion to overview.
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Krystal Vernet
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ferkimer Burns
We need more colors.
Yellow: targeting
Red: shooting
Blue: warp jammer
Orange: ewar
Green: repping
Pink if target[ting] character with 2.0+ sec status.
Purple if target[ting] character with -2.0+ sec status
Rainbow if NPC.
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Belmarduk
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:50:00 -
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Look guys for christ sake !
I also miss the SOUND notification when being warp-scrambled.
Wheres the bloody problem?
It was there before - it was somehow (accidently?????) removed when Apoc went live - CCP please implement it again.End of drama.
Thx and Have a nice Evening everyone.
Greetings B.
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Hiroshima Jita
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:52:00 -
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Lol Siigari can always provide ammusement.
On the other hand the user interface would be much better if there was a small green bar that represented your warp core. Yellow when disrupted, red when scrambled.
Too bad EvE has never given much of a **** about making a friendly UI.
Also Siigari I am forced to beleive that you enjoy the noteriety that comes with failing at EvE in epic ways. Not that this one had any quality that could be refered to as 'epic.'
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:53:00 -
[52]
Maybe get a bigger screen?
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Belmarduk
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:54:00 -
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I like the idea of Hiroshima with the ui-warpcore changing color.But then again we had the Sound-msg and I liked the forlorn voice of Aura telling you that you were in dire trouble ;) FIX it CCP.Thx
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:00:00 -
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Aren't there visual cues now as well? The scrambling graphic is actually seeable...unless you play zoomed out. 
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IVeige
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:09:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Welcome to Eve.
I explode.
again ?
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:11:00 -
[56]
Originally by: IVeige
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Welcome to Eve.
I explode.
again ?
haha, that one got a lol out of me in real life :)
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Rie Takahashi
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:19:00 -
[57]
A 'lol' in real life is called a laugh, would you believe :)
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Cors
It's A Trap
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:31:00 -
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Another Pro tip. Keep things sorted by distance, and scrolled to the top. NPC's only scram you when they're inside scram range.....
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Soulita
Gallente
Inner Core
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: Soulita on 27/08/2009 19:38:06
Originally by: Belmarduk
Look guys for christ sake !
I also miss the SOUND notification when being warp-scrambled.
Wheres the bloody problem?
It was there before - it was somehow (accidently?????) removed when Apoc went live - CCP please implement it again.End of drama.
Thx and Have a nice Evening everyone.
Greetings B.
What the man says.
I do not play EVE with sound - but for those who do, it does make sense, doesnt it?
Anyways always entertaining to see the nerdrage and trollfest when someone proposes a minor change or fix to EVE.
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Leaving Eve
Boo Hoo Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:39:00 -
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wah wah wah
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Zartanic
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:57:00 -
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A scrolling combat log would be useful with a colour code that can be user set. In fact there are many ways to show combat details which are actually useful. CCP just have to copy most other MMORPGs out there, no need to innovate.
The current flashing is plain rubbish and belongs on 8 bit computers.
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Forge Trader
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Posted - 2009.08.27 20:04:00 -
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There is an excess of stupid, irrelevant responses to the OP's issue: Should the interface be more informative, as it once was?
My vote: YES
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.27 20:30:00 -
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more informative:
"You are under attack"
"warning. You are taking damage"
"Your sihelds have taken damage"
"Your capacitor is nearly empty"
"Your armor has taken damage"
"your gonna die"
Do you really want your onboard computer saying stupid crap like that all the time? Neither do i.
Originally by: Akita T
Seriously ?
...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2009.08.27 20:40:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Forge Trader
There is an excess of stupid, irrelevant responses to the OP's issue: Should the interface be more informative, as it once was?
My vote: YES
But this is EVE! We are hardcore, we don't want useable interfaces, or easy management. Useless grind is where the fun is at! Waiting is good and not knowing what's happening is even better.
The really REALLY elite even reload their guns one at a time - single unit of ammo per shot.
At least that's what I've come to conclude, reading on this forum.
So, yes, better UI, definitely needed, but either "too much work" for CCP or blocked by the hardcore elite who think that even seeing your enemy by visual is too much information and makes the game too easy... |
Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.27 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Forge Trader
There is an excess of stupid, irrelevant responses to the OP's issue: Should the interface be more informative, as it once was?
My vote: YES
Yeah.
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Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout
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Davich MacGregor
Minmatar
Stellar Products and Quality Resources
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Posted - 2009.08.27 20:47:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Lance Fighter
more informative:
"You are under attack"
"warning. You are taking damage"
"Your sihelds have taken damage"
"Your capacitor is nearly empty"
"Your armor has taken damage"
"your gonna die"
Do you really want your onboard computer saying stupid crap like that all the time? Neither do i.
All of the above is already easily visible and very noticable. What game are you playing?
You should probably find out what's going to be in the plex and take out the scramble capable ships first or something like that. Works for me.
Still a better notification would be a good thing since NPC are not the only ones capable of scrambling. Certainly couldn't hurt.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.08.27 20:53:00 -
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Always take out frigs first? I know this doesn't fix scram notifications in general but I'm amazed you get most of your money plexing and don't do this.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
Always take out frigs first? I know this doesn't fix scram notifications in general but I'm amazed you get most of your money plexing and don't do this.
Well, I just started flying a shield tanked Ishtar this week, so I got a bit ahead of myself I guess.
Typically I would, but I got greedy and went for the overseer ;|
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: Lady Spank
Always take out frigs first? I know this doesn't fix scram notifications in general but I'm amazed you get most of your money plexing and don't do this.
Well, I just started flying a shield tanked Ishtar this week, so I got a bit ahead of myself I guess.
Typically I would, but I got greedy and went for the overseer ;|
Ultimately this is where YOUR issue was, you took a bad route to the finish line. However it does not discount the validity of your original post. There really needs to be something for Scrams at least, since they're kinda important to know about.
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Pater Peccavi
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Pater Peccavi on 27/08/2009 21:33:06
Originally by: Hiroshima Jita
On the other hand the user interface would be much better if there was a small green bar that represented your warp core. Yellow when disrupted, red when scrambled.
This. I almost lost a rupture once recently since I thought I was disrupted, not scrambled. The next time I PvE'd in that rupture, I almost lost it because I was slowboating towards the next BS, only to realize halfway there that I could use my MWD.
Edit: I'm talking about 0.0 ratting, which means I can't just kill the frigs first. Well, not all of them.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:35:00 -
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Fair enough. I lost my all in one plexing ishkur because I was too lazy to refit the ab
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Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Forge Trader
There is an excess of stupid, irrelevant responses to the OP's issue: Should the interface be more informative, as it once was?
My vote: YES
Yeah.
Agreed, I hate when the overview says "This target is warp scrammbling me" even if its a disruptor. I need to know if I can MWD or not. It should say:
"Target is warp disrupting you"
"Target is warp scrammbling you"
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Taedrin
Gallente
The Space Bar South
The Compass
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:52:00 -
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To be honest, I wish CCP would just redesign the UI from scratch instead. We don't need a UI like WoW, but at least allow us to make some customizations which allow us to organize the information provided by the UI better.
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Turiel Demon
Minmatar
Shadow Reapers
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:55:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: Lady Spank
Always take out frigs first? I know this doesn't fix scram notifications in general but I'm amazed you get most of your money plexing and don't do this.
Well, I just started flying a shield tanked Ishtar this week, so I got a bit ahead of myself I guess.
Typically I would, but I got greedy and went for the overseer ;|
Ultimately this is where YOUR issue was, you took a bad route to the finish line. However it does not discount the validity of your original post. There really needs to be something for Scrams at least, since they're kinda important to know about.
Very much agreed
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Laruant Wiggins
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.27 23:02:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Laruant Wiggins on 27/08/2009 23:03:28
Originally by: Cereah
Hey hows about this...?
Do what I do and save two different fighting overview settings. One that shows the normal stuff, and one that shows JUST ENEMIES.
Only thing you have to do then is actually keep the overview looking at the people targeting you.
This, on a seperate tab even.
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ShadowGod56
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Posted - 2009.08.27 23:40:00 -
[76]
even though this is just another whine, hes got a point(no pun intended  )
something a bit more noticeable that isn't mixed in with the rest of the bull**** flashing across your screen while being shot at would be a lot more helpful.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.08.27 23:51:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Laruant Wiggins
Edited by: Laruant Wiggins on 27/08/2009 23:03:28
Originally by: Cereah
Hey hows about this...?
Do what I do and save two different fighting overview settings. One that shows the normal stuff, and one that shows JUST ENEMIES.
Only thing you have to do then is actually keep the overview looking at the people targeting you.
This, on a seperate tab even.
OR, a tab that only shows npc frigates.
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Posted - 2009.08.28 00:42:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Welcome to Eve. Where battles are fast and furious. Where PVP is intense and quick. Where plexing can be as entertaining as a real PVP fight. Where information and notifications flicker across your screen in the blink of an eye.
And where when you get scrambled, you have no way to know if your overview is 10 miles long.
It used to be that Aura would announce that you are warp scrambled. Now, you get a hundredth-of-a-second notification saying "External factors are preventing operation of this module" or some BS that is two lines long and impossible to read in the heat of a fight.
So I'm in a plex (Serpentis Minor Annex) and here come the rats. I wail on the overseer then plan to get out because they're hurtin' pretty bad. As soon as the overseer drops I click warp to station. A couple seconds later I think "Hm, crappy lag" then notice my shields are still plummeting.
While my shields drop below 30%, I scroll my overview up to the top (sorted by distance) and notice TWO Guardian frigs are scramming me. I race for my drones. I sic em and overload my guns and I'm staring at my shields thinking "I've got 10 seconds to pop two frigs."
Doesn't happen. I explode.
Thanks for the awesome user interface, CCP. Put Aura back where she belongs.
Where's the fun in warning us we are being scrambled? Who would by them if they knew that using them came with a negative enemy text message warp scrambled alert bonus? "Door is ajar...Please fasten Pod Belt...Warp Scrambler Alert!"
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd.
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.28 00:50:00 -
[79]
Would this be something half decent?
Positive remote modules on the top, negative below. The rollover text tells you what the function of the icon is.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.08.28 00:58:00 -
[80]
Nice salvage boat
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Thamuzz
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.08.28 01:43:00 -
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Well there's nice little icons in the overview that you can see! (and spare me the long overview as you can sort by ship size if you really want to check).
I'm pretty sure that once upon a time Aura was the only one that cared enough to tell you what you didn't want to hear at the precise moment that you didn't want to hear it
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Posted - 2009.08.28 02:07:00 -
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The saddest thing is this time a lame NPC got the loot pinata, when it should have been a player!
Oh, and you know how to solve the problem? Once you've sold enough GTCs to buy a new ship (though really, why do you bother plexing when you just buy all your ships with RL cash?), do the following things:
1) Expand your overview to a useful size. Maybe instead of GTCing another Proteus to lose, put some of that money into buying a better monitor if you have to. I have never seen a complex or mission where I couldn't fit the entire NPC list on my overview at once, so you should have no problem seeing the warp scramble icon next to the frigates.
2) Think before acting. Be aware that there might be scrambling frigs, and LOOK for them, don't just sit there obliviously half-AFK as you die.
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Posted - 2009.08.28 03:28:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Xen Gin
Would this be something half decent?
Positive remote modules on the top, negative below. The rollover text tells you what the function of the icon is.
this would be perfect in all honesty.
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The Riddik
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Posted - 2009.08.28 04:07:00 -
[84]
if you are too stupid to not djust your overview settings to see enemy ships in missions and not the crap you obviously had on their its your own damn fault.
yet another example of darwin in action.
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Kazah'dur Vorlonis
Amarr
Gun Metal Priests
Prismatic Refraction
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Posted - 2009.08.28 04:34:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Xrak
Web and scramble should be shown in the same way as other EW, with the bar at the bottom.
Simple.
Agree.
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thoraxeb
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.28 05:10:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Okay I want to be clear here -
I make most of my living in exploration sites. So I'm most definitely not whining about plexes being 'too hard to afk'.
I love plexing, it makes me feel relaxed and it's overall an enjoyable experience.
What I'm upset about is that for about what, eight or nine months now, Aura does not report when you are warp scrambled, when she used to all the time. It was one of my favorite sounds of Eve, actually.
Top 10 favorite sounds in Eve:
1. "Your security status has been lowered."
2. "You are unable to warp because you are warp scrambled."
3. Tachyon Beam lasers
4. Neutron Blaster Cannons
5. believe it or not, "The capacitor is empty."
6. "Warp drive active."
7. Minmatar cruisers engines
8. Old Dreadnought movement sounds (sexy stuff)
9. The alarm for session changes.
10. The old fitting panel dropping and loading the grid.
Anyway, a lot of this stuff is gone now, which kind of tells you how CCP feels about sound :( but I want Aura reporting scrambles.
11. Skill training completed.
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Jesslyn Daggererux
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.08.28 05:28:00 -
[87]
hey, i got an idea. you remember BACON? well how about something that monitors your combat logs and when you get the log entry of being scrambled it plays a sound? seriously. there ya go. i just solved your problem. now, either pay someone to make it or do it yourself, if you care that much. we know its possible and not a breach of EULA. do it and stop crying or continue to cry and admit your just a lousy troll.
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2009.08.28 06:27:00 -
[88]
messenger aside, I agree it would be nice to be clearly notified of relevant information.
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.28 06:33:00 -
[89]
Originally by: BARF CHUNK
SRSLY
For being so far in the future it really is strange how little info there is on wtf is happening to you.
Your face?
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Cilvius Sanctus
Gallente
The Order of Chivalry
Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2009.08.28 07:06:00 -
[90]
I honestly believe that the response to this post would be completely different had it been posted by someone other than Siigari. If Chribba were on here posting about wanting Aura's voice back in the game you would all be right behind him on it.
I've been saying for a long time that I want Aura's voice brought back the way it used to be, and there is definitely nothing wrong with having the information that you need to know given to you in the best ways possible.
Stop trolling the OP and actually respond to the post.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.28 07:21:00 -
[91]
I also want Aura to whisper sexy words in my ear whlie mining
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.28 07:23:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Chribba
I also want Aura to whisper sexy words in my ear whlie mining
B..but she tells you the asteroid is depleted o.o
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.08.28 07:32:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Cilvius Sanctus
I honestly believe that the response to this post would be completely different had it been posted by someone other than Siigari. If Chribba were on here posting about wanting Aura's voice back in the game you would all be right behind him on it.
Maybe for you it would be different, but I would laugh just as much as anyone else who was too stupid to re-size their overview and lost their ship because they didn't bother checking for scramble frigates even when their warp drive failed to activate normally.
Granted, it would be nice to have the voice back, but posting it as a "I LOST MY SHIP!!!!!" whine thread is just begging to be laughed at. The fact that it's a GTC-abusing faction loot pinata doing the crying just makes the tears especially sweet.
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Zurrar
Gallente
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.28 08:37:00 -
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i find plexing mundane and boring... like missions...
pvp is not pve
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Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
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Posted - 2009.08.28 09:48:00 -
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i just wish i could pre-toggle overload on my MWD while (still) being warp-scrambled.
or pre-toggle it while i'm holding gate-cloak.
why wont BH accept that bug report.....
oh right, _none_ of them is able to reproduce that
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Posted - 2009.08.28 11:18:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Lance Fighter
"You are under attack"
"warning. You are taking damage"
Do you really want your onboard computer saying stupid crap like that all the time? Neither do i.
I would, since you ask, like some sort of "You are under attack" notification. A nice little beeping when someone else locks you up would be enough. You know, just like real fighter jets have had for decades?
It's funny but (outside of certain Eve players) you don't hear about pilots ripping out all their warning alarms because (apparently) information makes your penis shrink.
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Posted - 2009.08.28 11:53:00 -
[97]
Another thing I would like a notification sound for is armor and shield broadcasts in fleet. Right now the notification is really tiny which often leads to ppl screaming over vent and that's not good. Having the option of a sound would be awesome
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Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.28 12:01:00 -
[98]
The OP is right tbh.
If Aura can tell us our capacitor is empty (which is far more obvious) then why she can't tell us "You are unable to warp because you are warp scrambled" - which she used to do perfectly well and doesn't anymore for no logical reason - makes no sense.
It can't be a localisation "bug" if she still says stuff about capacitor, etc.
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Vaneshi SnowCrash
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Posted - 2009.08.28 12:16:00 -
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I think the OP does make a good point. The status icons for web/scram/ewar can be tricky to see; even with sort by distance and scrolled all the way up. Any long named rat or person will obduscate them making it difficult to tell who is doing what.
I'd also say the little icon for scrambling is pretty similar to webbed as well, both being predominently blue and all of them being quite small. I've gleefully sent my drones after what at a glance looked to be a scrambler NPC (and it was, but had failed its chance roll) only to mouse over and discover it was just webbing.
Not lost a ship because of it yet. But I agree the feedback mechanism does need tweaking.
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Drykor
Minmatar
Reikoku
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Posted - 2009.08.28 12:48:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Chribba
I also want Aura to whisper sexy words in my ear whlie mining
What I find funny is that you replied instantly after someone mentioned you :)
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Connner
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.08.28 13:07:00 -
[101]
EVE has sound?
Seriously though, if you are running a higher level plex, just assume that you are being scrambled by frigs, make sure your overview is sorted by distance 'cause those frigs are likely to be umung the closest ships to you. And lastly, I know its been said in the 4 pages, just pay attention to your overview!
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.28 13:10:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Drykor
Originally by: Chribba
I also want Aura to whisper sexy words in my ear whlie mining
What I find funny is that you replied instantly after someone mentioned you :)
It's simple science.
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Dhonner
Construction Cabal
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2009.08.28 13:38:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Xen Gin
Would this be something half decent?
Positive remote modules on the top, negative below. The rollover text tells you what the function of the icon is.
I would have loved something like this... you should suggest it in the correct forum.
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Jesslyn Daggererux
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.08.28 18:03:00 -
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nobody talking about my BACON-like idea...
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shuckstar
Gallente
Hauling hogs
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Posted - 2009.08.28 19:29:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Xen Gin
Would this be something half decent?
Positive remote modules on the top, negative below. The rollover text tells you what the function of the icon is.
That would be pretty cool.
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd.
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.28 23:44:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Dhonner
Originally by: Xen Gin
Would this be something half decent?
Positive remote modules on the top, negative below. The rollover text tells you what the function of the icon is.
I would have loved something like this... you should suggest it in the correct forum.
Done.
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