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Gunner Dark	Posted - 2009.09.17 15:06:00 - [31] Originally by: Zen Guerrilla Originally by: Gunner Dark Originally by: Nur AlHuda Well i would like to know when those battleships blobs are happening so i can join them :( Im sure not in EU zone. And if maybe once a week couse then our killboards would be green permanently :P You have to understand that when the Mini dudes say blob, they mean anything above 10 . The FW definition of blob seems to differ from what anyone else in EVE would consider a blob You're bitter. And funny. More bitter than funny tho. Keep it coming. No where near as funny as someone like you telling others how fine FW is, you are never out your rifter or thrasher , you are the embodiment of everything that's ** in our faction. We have dozens of pilots like you flying around in your t1 frigs while PIE, DIA, 1PG, A-BC, and ARETR are cruising around in organised groups flying well setup non crap ships. The Matari need to stop acting all but-hurt because the Amarrians are willing to bring it while our noobs sit and hope to *** mails in bloody t1 frigs and crap fit cruisers. Edit I should note that our Anzan/US pilots are really pretty good , they are more than capable and willing to mix it up with the Amarrians, its simply the Euronubs that are terribad
Zen Guerrilla Minmatar Mindfunk	Posted - 2009.09.17 15:23:00 - [32] Originally by: Gunner Dark Originally by: Zen Guerrilla Originally by: Gunner Dark Originally by: Nur AlHuda Well i would like to know when those battleships blobs are happening so i can join them :( Im sure not in EU zone. And if maybe once a week couse then our killboards would be green permanently :P You have to understand that when the Mini dudes say blob, they mean anything above 10 . The FW definition of blob seems to differ from what anyone else in EVE would consider a blob You're bitter. And funny. More bitter than funny tho. Keep it coming. No where near as funny as someone like you telling others how fine FW is, you are never out your rifter or thrasher , you are the embodiment of everything that's ** in our faction. We have dozens of pilots like you flying around in your t1 frigs while PIE, DIA, 1PG, A-BC, and ARETR are cruising around in organised groups flying well setup non crap ships. The Matari need to stop acting all but-hurt because the Amarrians are willing to bring it while our noobs sit and hope to * mails in bloody t1 frigs and crap fit cruisers. Edit I should note that our Anzan/US pilots are really pretty good , they are more than capable and willing to mix it up with the Amarrians, its simply the Euronubs that are terribad Euronub. I like that. ALL THOSE GODDAMN EURONUBS! FLYING THEIR CHEAP ASS ** SHIPS AND HAVING FUN IN FW, HOW DARE THEY!!! INTERNET SPACESHIPS ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS! RAAAAGE! Heh, and props for being able to read a killboard. ----------------------------- Pew pew!
waruiushiro Wrath of Fenris Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2009.09.17 16:24:00 - [33] Originally by: Cordarouy Pants Well, if nothing else . . . there will be at least a bit of hilarity returning to this conflict in the next few days because I'm rejoining once I get back from some sec status work in 0. So get ur solo tarps ready gents, here comes a sucker. I saw your name linked in our intel channel in GW, I was like, you don't talk about Cordarouy Pants, man. That's the first rule of Cordarouy Pants. Now would also be a good time to announce my own return to FW. omg woot etc and so on.
Pater Peccavi Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.09.17 16:35:00 - [34] As with all things EVE, if you're not having fun, go do something else. Gunner Dark, it sounds like you're not having fun in FW. Go do something else. Minmatar players who aren't having fun, go do something else. People who are getting kills in FW, having loads of fun, keep doing what you're doing. Personally, one of the main selling points of FW is that it promotes flying T1 frigs/dessies/cruisers. A massive wardec where your opponents fly similar sized ships means that these ships can engage on gates and stations (natural focal points in EVE), rather than being forced to either canbait or roam belts. Plexes that only allow ships of a certain size lets you fight each other without having to worry about a HAC/BS jumping in and ruining your fun. If you're having fun flying around in your battleship in FW, great! It's awesome that we can both have fun flying ships we enjoy! However, if you're not having fun in your battleship, and you'd rather shoot yourself than fly something smaller, then move to one of the areas in EVE where you can enjoy your battleship. Options include merc alliances, 0.0 alliances, High-sec missionrunning, Wormholes, etc. _________
Cordarouy Pants	Posted - 2009.09.17 17:24:00 - [35] Originally by: waruiushiro I saw your name linked in our intel channel in GW, I was like, you don't talk about Cordarouy Pants, man. That's the first rule of Cordarouy Pants. LOL, good times! Hope to see you soon.
Sscleetar	Posted - 2009.09.17 17:25:00 - [36] Before the Galente lost I used to see a TON of annoying threads between the Cal and the Gal where there was a lot of chest beating and it was really annoying. Recently I have noticed more and more Amarr and Minmat threads like this one that are just as annoying as the Cal/Gal ones. It's sad to see actually. (But the Amarr wah wah wah....But the Minmatar wah wah wah....You should play MY way!....No, you should play MY way!....NO U!....NO U!) Just shut up and shoot something! To the OP (if you have not already abandoned this thread) FW is really fun. Make sure you get into a FW corp, FW corps make FW even more fun. The Amarr/Minmat war can be broken down into 2 time zones: EU Time Zone: Amarr have the upper hand, they can field more numbers with bigger ships and better FC's. Still plenty of fights though. Lots of fun. US Time Zone: Minmatar have the upper hand here. Minmats have a fairly tight knit group that likes to fly together (IFW, ROSS, and a few other corps)and have gotten pretty good (they even call themselves "The Late Night Crew", not very original, but good pilots). Not a ton of Amarr activity during this time zone so the Minmats usually try to find some Tics or other pirates to kill. Lots of fun. To almost everyone else in this thread: Please don't let the Amarr/Minmat front turn into a crying fest of these forums. We have been pretty good about it for so long. It's sad to see things going down-hill the way that they are. Red Dragon.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.09.17 21:25:00 - [37] Originally by: Proxyyyy One being starfa*tion that wont stay out of faction warfare they interfered alot on the amarr side and i saw taht right away when i joined. Something wrong with your keyboard? 3rd Forces in FW - discuss!
CyberRaver Silentium Mortalitas	Posted - 2009.09.17 21:29:00 - [38] And ticks interfere with minmitar side, its all fun!
Proxyyyy Caldari Exile Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.09.17 23:11:00 - [39] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Proxyyyy One being starfa*tion that wont stay out of faction warfare they interfered alot on the amarr side and i saw taht right away when i joined. Something wrong with your keyboard? Nope thoughs are suppose to be the letter "G" GGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dont want to be bothered reading the forum rules so i wont swear = )
qanatas Minmatar Tribal Core	Posted - 2009.09.18 08:47:00 - [40] At least on the forum, the war is alive and kicking .

BattleStar Crusader Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.09.18 10:55:00 - [41] Edited by: BattleStar Crusader on 18/09/2009 11:04:55 Hmmm alot has changed in the last few month's, the minmitar when bolstered by dark and rkk where indeed not worth fighting, becuase the 60 man bs gang would be behind that rifter you tackled on the kourm gate. but hey, if you can do it, fair play we would all do the same. When they both left, the minmitar did pretty well you alwyas ran bs fleets, and i mean every single day a minmitar bs fleet with up to 4 scimitars would be flying around, also you started dropping capitals in groups (all this happend in a 2-3 week time period). While you did this the major amarr corps all started gathering the ships and money to get a nice big fleet up. I remember you baiting us with a carrier, we cuaght it and killed your entire fleet with minimal loss's and killed 3 capital ships. Then you started bringing out rather heavy BC gangs which i admit were pretty scary to look at, 15 hurricanes OMFGRUN!!! but again that lasted 1 week maybe two. I think the fianl nail in the coffin was the ammake fight where two seperate amarr BS fleets ( One being completley AB-C bs ) converged on that station in ammake, Smogg ( love yah geeezer ) decided to stand and fight and subsequently lost a lot of bs. That was the last time i saw the minmatar actually ni a large fleet. These days you get the occasional bs traveling between stations, and you get rather large rifter gangs which do loook funny in the overview lol makes the screen go fuzzy I will admit the amarr seem to have ALOT more bs ready pilots so the new fc's and the old sometime like to use them. All in all i don't do militia fleets any more. You will see the amarr militia killboard turn green, when i take the corp out though But the simple fact remain if you can't handle the 10 man "BLOB" and you are just here to ***** and moan bout how the other side is always coming back bigger than you with logistics, what they hell are you doing in the militia???
Gunner Dark	Posted - 2009.09.18 11:13:00 - [42] Originally by: BattleStar Crusader Edited by: BattleStar Crusader on 18/09/2009 11:04:55 Hmmm alot has changed in the last few month's, the minmitar when bolstered by dark and rkk where indeed not worth fighting, becuase the 60 man bs gang would be behind that rifter you tackled on the kourm gate. but hey, if you can do it, fair play we would all do the same. When they both left, the minmitar did pretty well you alwyas ran bs fleets, and i mean every single day a minmitar bs fleet with up to 4 scimitars would be flying around, also you started dropping capitals in groups (all this happend in a 2-3 week time period). While you did this the major amarr corps all started gathering the ships and money to get a nice big fleet up. I remember you baiting us with a carrier, we cuaght it and killed your entire fleet with minimal loss's and killed 3 capital ships. Then you started bringing out rather heavy BC gangs which i admit were pretty scary to look at, 15 hurricanes OMFGRUN!!! but again that lasted 1 week maybe two. I think the fianl nail in the coffin was the ammake fight where two seperate amarr BS fleets ( One being completley AB-C bs ) converged on that station in ammake, Smogg ( love yah geeezer ) decided to stand and fight and subsequently lost a lot of bs. That was the last time i saw the minmatar actually ni a large fleet. These days you get the occasional bs traveling between stations, and you get rather large rifter gangs which do loook funny in the overview lol makes the screen go fuzzy I will admit the amarr seem to have ALOT more bs ready pilots so the new fc's and the old sometime like to use them. All in all i don't do militia fleets any more. You will see the amarr militia killboard turn green, when i take the corp out though But the simple fact remain if you can't handle the 10 man "BLOB" and you are just here to ***** and moan bout how the other side is always coming back bigger than you with logistics, what they hell are you doing in the militia??? Apparently flying around in rifter gangs is fun god forbid anyone join the militia and try to add any semblance of organisation to it. You guys brought what a mixed t2 frig and HAC gang of 10 or so yesterday evening ? the militia ground to a halt because OMG BC HAS THE BLOB out. And why haven't i left the militia yet ? simple answer I want to fight the Amarr , I just would like to do it with pilots who are willing to risk more than a dam rifter / dessie / t2 cruiser. The Mini militia has a huge issue with crap corps and no FC's during EU peak , if the Amarr really decided to push it could be the Cald v Gallente front all over again in no time.
waruiushiro Wrath of Fenris Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2009.09.18 12:40:00 - [43] Originally by: BattleStar Crusader Edited by: BattleStar Crusader on 18/09/2009 11:04:55 Hmmm alot has changed in the last few month's, the minmitar when bolstered by dark and rkk where indeed not worth fighting, becuase the 60 man bs gang would be behind that rifter you tackled on the kourm gate. but hey, if you can do it, fair play we would all do the same. When they both left, the minmitar did pretty well you alwyas ran bs fleets, and i mean every single day a minmitar bs fleet with up to 4 scimitars would be flying around, also you started dropping capitals in groups (all this happend in a 2-3 week time period). While you did this the major amarr corps all started gathering the ships and money to get a nice big fleet up. I remember you baiting us with a carrier, we cuaght it and killed your entire fleet with minimal loss's and killed 3 capital ships. Then you started bringing out rather heavy BC gangs which i admit were pretty scary to look at, 15 hurricanes OMFGRUN!!! but again that lasted 1 week maybe two. I think the fianl nail in the coffin was the ammake fight where two seperate amarr BS fleets ( One being completley AB-C bs ) converged on that station in ammake, Smogg ( love yah geeezer ) decided to stand and fight and subsequently lost a lot of bs. That was the last time i saw the minmatar actually ni a large fleet. These days you get the occasional bs traveling between stations, and you get rather large rifter gangs which do loook funny in the overview lol makes the screen go fuzzy I will admit the amarr seem to have ALOT more bs ready pilots so the new fc's and the old sometime like to use them. All in all i don't do militia fleets any more. You will see the amarr militia killboard turn green, when i take the corp out though But the simple fact remain if you can't handle the 10 man "BLOB" and you are just here to ***** and moan bout how the other side is always coming back bigger than you with logistics, what they hell are you doing in the militia??? damn battlestar, I think you actually got it right. sscleetar too. FW is a cycle, things change... leadership, pilots, capabilities are always shifting with the membership. one thing WOLFY discovered was the diminishing returns. you kill a person's mission boat in highsecks, the next day they quit malitia. soon no more targets. the Tama gate used to be hot/cold running noobs, then squids wised up that jumping through there = fried calamari during WOLFY hours. soon no more targets. or, all your targets just keep to the big fleets. who can blame them? it's an understandable tactic if flying alone means death. and it's always the problem in Amarr/Minnie because of the lopsided TZ strengths. but what can ya do? complaining won't fix it. you just have to adapt. find kills elsewhere, use different fleet types... check out the grass on the other side of the fence and let that other grass grow back a little before you return to om-nom-nom-nom.
zombiedeadhead Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.09.18 13:20:00 - [44] As an ex-Min militia pilot, who now lives and dies (mostly the dying atm) in Minnie Fw low-sec, I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the impact of the new LP bonuses on the FW activity. I may be jumping to conclusions here, but i have seen a lot more activity in my local area, and a lot of gangs (and even solo pilots) running FW mission sites. These seem to be bringing more opportunities for small roaming gangs to find a fight, at least thats how it looks to this interested observer. Anyone C/D this? What I have particulrly noticed is that the Minmitar are becoming more involved in this, whereas before it was the Amarr in the area who had the more organised and tighter small gangs.
CyberRaver Silentium Mortalitas	Posted - 2009.09.18 14:23:00 - [45] i have noticed the minmitar tend to be sticking in smaller and smaller ships, getting to the point where i see more pods then ships now
ShadowMaiden Amarr Divine Radiance	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:40:00 - [46] Edited by: ShadowMaiden on 19/09/2009 14:40:23 the PVEers will look up and shout - "NO! we are important!" and the PVPers will whisper - "no..."
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.09.19 14:46:00 - [47] Still going strong, get in, get some pew pew, the Minmatar side does suffer slightly from lack of FCs, so when one is online giving a fleet call, the fleet rapidly hits the 30-40 mark.
Mutnin Mutineers	Posted - 2009.09.19 16:11:00 - [48] Originally by: zombiedeadhead As an ex-Min militia pilot, who now lives and dies (mostly the dying atm) in Minnie Fw low-sec, I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the impact of the new LP bonuses on the FW activity. I may be jumping to conclusions here, but i have seen a lot more activity in my local area, and a lot of gangs (and even solo pilots) running FW mission sites. These seem to be bringing more opportunities for small roaming gangs to find a fight, at least thats how it looks to this interested observer. Anyone C/D this? What I have particulrly noticed is that the Minmitar are becoming more involved in this, whereas before it was the Amarr in the area who had the more organised and tighter small gangs. I finally left FW to try some other stuff, but honestly I didn't see much action from the new mission plexes. I ran down several Amarr in missions and never once did a single one stay for a fight. I tired camping the plex gates, cloaking up inside the mission, but it always ended up the mission runner coming back with a gang or never at all. I think it comes down to the fact in most cases if you run a mission you are doing a hell of a lot of traveling. I've seen people say they had to do 20 jumps to run a FW mission. That in it's self is going to have an effect, because who wants to risk losing their ship and having to run 20 jumps back for another one? The other problem is of course it's just like a FW plex, the person running it has to tank the rat aggro and is at a fighting disadvantage to whom ever comes in from the other side. Which in the end is another reason not to fight. I think over all the missions were a good idea, but they bring in the typical PVE aspects, that give more reasons to avoid combat than to encourage it.
RedSplat	Posted - 2009.09.19 17:02:00 - [49] Not enough butt hurt and chest beating for a militia thread. So, i have nothing to do with FW anymore- for which am an thankfull. But, I'm curious, do you think the new Navy BS will change matters at all or will they just promote more standings exploiting cloaked stabbed plexing frigates aping Ankh? Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.09.19 17:41:00 - [50] Originally by: RedSplat I'm curious, do you think the new Navy BS will change matters at all or will they just promote more standings exploiting cloaked stabbed plexing frigates aping Ankh? Yes, and a couple more expensive losses.

Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2009.09.19 17:41:00 - [51] Originally by: RedSplat ...I'm curious, do you think the new Navy BS will change matters at all or will they just promote more standings exploiting cloaked stabbed plexing frigates aping Ankh? Plexing doesn't yield LP and the harder missions require gang or very tough/specific setups. So no. Will there be farming to sell faction BS on market? Hell yes, but I think it will mostly be regular militia doing it during the hours when the opposition is either blobbing/swarming or non-existent. After some months there may be dedicated farmers up and running, but between pirates and Wts it will not be a way to get a steady income.
Mutnin Mutineers	Posted - 2009.09.19 18:24:00 - [52] Originally by: RedSplat Not enough butt hurt and chest beating for a militia thread. So, i have nothing to do with FW anymore- for which am an thankfull. But, I'm curious, do you think the new Navy BS will change matters at all or will they just promote more standings exploiting cloaked stabbed plexing frigates aping Ankh? I don't think they will affect much in combat in FW it's self as you don't typically see many faction ships in FW. I think their only affect will be more people farming FW missions and running at first sight of combat. While it's nice to have a income source in FW, I think giving the bulk of LP's to the mission running side was a bad decision by CCP. Trying to mix mission running with PVP is like trying to force two magnets with revered polarity together. It just isn't gonna happen. They should have put the LP rewards straight into the hands of the PVPers by giving better LP rewards to PVP combat, not PVE.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2009.09.19 19:57:00 - [53] Originally by: Mutnin ...They should have put the LP rewards straight into the hands of the PVPers by giving better LP rewards to PVP combat, not PVE. I am sure they tried finding a way for PvP to contribute more LP, but it has such obvious exploits that is nigh impossible to balance. Create an alt, join opposing militia and kill him repeatedly .. insurance takes care of cost. Can't even make a rule saying only the first few kills of a character gives LP as most PvP'ers are the same pilots going back out again and again or you make 2nd/3rd/4th alt. At least they had the common sense not to tie VP to LP in any way which would have let the extremely buggy plexing be abused for LP.
Bischopt	Posted - 2009.09.21 02:14:00 - [54] The minmatar militia is indeed doing rather badly at the moment. I believe that is mainly because our militia (minmatar) is indeed poorly organized and only has a couple of good fleet commanders. Well actually we have several good fc's but only a couple of them are willing to lead large militia fleets into battle anymore. A lot of the older and more experienced people in the minmatar militia seem to prefer small groups that they know well and that are fun, instead of the large and more serious fleets that have unknown and annoying nooby people in them. These more experienced people include our best fc and some cap and logistics pilots that have simply had too many bad experiences in militia fleets or are just tired of the blobs. I'm not exactly experienced or old but even I don't find militia fleets very entertaining anymore either. Lately I've been flying with only one or two closer friends, popping randon targets around low sec. I've also been killing some amarr noobships, shuttles and pods in their high sec every now and then And the heretics, well I think they're a problem mainly because they can go into minmatar high sec and camp the stations etc. So, in my opinion the militia just is not that much fun anymore. I mean I used to be a very active fleet member, I was even the top killer of july 2009 :P But now it's just boring and I don't even know most of the people in the fleets anymore. It's much better to fly solo or form a small gang with a couple or friends. I think the amarr may take things even a little bit too seriously. I think I know one or two people who actually care about plexing and capturing/defending systems so there's really nothing keeping most of us focused or serious about FW. We're in FW just for the fun. The amarr tacklers suck by the way. lol sorry, I just had to say that. Bisch
ovenproofjet Caldari Swords of Clarity	Posted - 2009.09.21 12:24:00 - [55] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Proxyyyy One being starfa*tion that wont stay out of faction warfare they interfered alot on the amarr side and i saw taht right away when i joined. Something wrong with your keyboard? LOLFraction buddies Yeah solution to neutral war decs....make the war deccers have to dec the entire militia, seeing as we are effectively an alliance this would make sense.
RedSplat	Posted - 2009.09.21 14:49:00 - [56] Quote: And the heretics, well I think they're a problem mainly because they can go into minmatar high sec and camp the stations etc. Look i know they aren't flashy anymore and you don't have the advantage of sentry's + being able to pick your fights + a safe place to hide in Highsec but this really shouldn't be an issue. Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Bischopt	Posted - 2009.09.21 21:05:00 - [57] Originally by: RedSplat Quote: And the heretics, well I think they're a problem mainly because they can go into minmatar high sec and camp the stations etc. Look i know they aren't flashy anymore and you don't have the advantage of sentry's + being able to pick your fights + a safe place to hide in Highsec but this really shouldn't be an issue. It's not really an issue, it's just something that the amarrs cant do, that's why I mentioned it. To be honest, the heretics barely give me any trouble in low sec. I have no trouble evading their station camps or gate camps and I certainly have no trouble losing them when they decide to go after me. They are however a problem for those who actually enjoy flying big and clumsy ships that get caught easily. But that's enough about the heretics, it's not that important. And by the way, there's always a safe place to hide in high sec ;) You just have to find one.
emllik Human Endurance Program	Posted - 2009.09.21 21:20:00 - [58] The Amarr/Minmitar FW is great. I solo pvp 95% of the time and find people to pvp almost everytime i log on.
Mutnin Mutineers	Posted - 2009.09.21 22:18:00 - [59] Originally by: emllik The Amarr/Minmitar FW is great. I solo pvp 95% of the time and find people to pvp almost everytime i log on. Yea, but you are flying a frig most of the time. It's not to hard to get away from the blobs in a frig and if you get caught it's no biggie on the loss. Nothing wrong with frigs of course, but they do get old after a while and trying to solo in anything bigger quickly turns into a blob magnet. Unfortunately, some of my corpies wanted back in FW, so my vacation has ended. However I just put an alt in Red vs Blue and it's looking like it will be interesting. Seems like a lot of people joining just want some PVP with out all the other BS.
Jhagiti Tyran Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2009.09.22 05:37:00 - [60] Reading this thread everything sounds right to that weird game fluff part of my brain, the Minmatar coming out in raggedy assed frigate and cruiser gangs and the Amarr rolling out in large fleets of BS.



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