And he's very much "your guy" - its easy to dig up plenty of posts with Goonswarm saying he should have been the new chair and Mittani endorsing him.

It hurts you in the most profound way possible. It hurts the feelings and ego of your leader. All the isk in the world won't make up for the sting when it becomes apparent that the Mittani lost a war to Jade Constantine and needed the 1.0 game mechanics to change in order to protect him from the consequences of defeat. This is fact, public record, simply the way things are.

Ok I am not going to feed your need for attention after this post. Jade you are having mental issues. I actually work in this field I see people like you quite often. Get some help. **** eve and all that BS. This is one human being to another. Go see a counselor and talk about your real life problems that have led you to be this obsessive and delusional. I can tell you that eve is not the only place you have built up a delusional world that centers around you and everyone who doesn't agree with you is out to get you. You think you are a hero.

As I said before Eve is not the only place you have done this. You have to be doing it in real life too. People do this for protection because they can't deal with something such as a personal loss or a roadblock in their life. It is easier for some people to avoid the problem all together and live in a fantasy world. When the fantasy crumbles down around them (and it will) that is when people do something they can never undo. Get help and don't become a statistic.

There are some pretty extraordinary responses to what is a very simple debate about game mechanics. I do wish everyone involved on the other side would take a moment to go have brew a nice cup of tea and calm down a little before continuing. Perhaps have one's significant other have a read of the things you've been posting to bring a second opinion before carrying on.

There are some pretty extraordinary responses to what is a very simple debate about game mechanics. I do wish everyone involved on the other side would take a moment to go have brew a nice cup of tea and calm down a little before continuing. Perhaps have one's significant other have a read of the things you've been posting to bring a second opinion before carrying on.

a dur....a dur a dur.

We actually have a much better wardec history than you guys.

I'd prefer you actually respond to anything anyone posts...

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I do consider being the greatest enemy of the goons to be one of my finest achievements in this game.
And winning a war against you guys puts the icing on the cake.

So please excuse me some moments of gratuitous self-satisfaction.

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So please excuse me some moments of gratuitous self-satisfaction.

Well I'm obviously not going to respond to clumsy trolling. And since I generally respond substantively only to those people bringing some actual adult discussion to the table, its not greatly surprising that the last few pages has had me talking seriously to one other guy. As I said, calm down, stop the personal attacks, stop trying to understand another player when you know precisely nothing about their life - and generally keep to the point.

Then we can have a discussion.

But you are going to need to understand there is more than one way to play Eve online and what is a triumph of collective effort in the interests of the "great leader" for you guys can sound just like the buzzing of the hive to others.

I do consider being the greatest enemy of the goons to be one of my finest achievements in this game.
And winning a war against you guys puts the icing on the cake.

So please excuse me some moments of gratuitous self-satisfaction.

I'll keep this simple - weaselior is one of our directors. He's repeatedly asked for you to demonstrate some form of concrete proof that you're hurting us at all. He's also posted our monthly technetium income as a formula on this forum, so if you use the few billion ISK damage we don't reimburse as 'proof', that's fairly easily refuted. Same for posting war record losses - Goonfleet has lost plenty of actual 0.0 wars, let alone empire wars, by the 'isk war' metric, and other, more tangible metrics (taking space, causing opponents to collapse).

It hurts you in the most profound way possible. It hurts the feelings and ego of your leader. All the isk in the world won't make up for the sting when it becomes apparent that the Mittani lost a war to Jade Constantine and needed the 1.0 game mechanics to change in order to protect him from the consequences of defeat. This is fact, public record, simply the way things are.

So please excuse me some moments of gratuitous self-satisfaction.

Yes but so easily you forget the "humiliation of the great leader" metric which can be measured in knuckleposting tweets. This is obviously not a war that has anything to do with isk otherwise I suspect I wouldn't have been able to earn 8.7 billion isk in 4 days while being hunted by the "ministry of love" in their 3 stealth bombers.

You are collectively "hurt" when "pubbies" laugh at you.
"pubbies" have been laughing at you.

Hence you do kinda lose.

What the **** is this, Wikipedia?

Who wants to place bets when the puppet master defense will come out?

Yes but so easily you forget the "humiliation of the great leader" metric which can be measured in knuckleposting tweets. This is obviously not a war that has anything to do with isk otherwise I suspect I wouldn't have been able to earn 8.7 billion isk in 4 days while being hunted by the "ministry of love" in their 3 stealth bombers.

You are collectively "hurt" when "pubbies" laugh at you.
"pubbies" have been laughing at you.

Hence you do kinda lose.