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Tylara duChelm
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Posted - 2009.12.15 11:12:00 -
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I'm wondering about people's various shipbuilds. Without getting into deadspace/officer stuff, what is the highest DPS build you can come up with? Faction ships/fittings are ok.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2009.12.15 11:27:00 -
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It's really not applicable, since there's a thousand other factors to it. And the premises are rather loose. But I'll take it as no officer, all faction, all storyline. All easily obtainable implants(<200m aka no pashans)
But for now I'll toy with the idea and what I'd expect be the highest figures.
CNR - 2050 ish dps
Vigilant - 1215 dps
Daredevil - 500 ish dps
Parrots, commence!
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.15 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 15/12/2009 11:32:28
Oh look, its this thread again.
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Merbusent
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Posted - 2009.12.15 11:42:00 -
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Vigilant thats a cruiser right?
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.15 11:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Merbusent
Vigilant thats a cruiser right?
Serpentis faction thorax.
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Menzies Campbell
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Posted - 2009.12.15 12:05:00 -
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The highest DPS, T2 fit only, non-faction, no implant BS is the Typhoon with 1626 DPS.
[Typhoon, DPS]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I
[empty rig slot]
Garde II x5
Next in comes the Raven with 1470, followed closely by the Hyperion at 1468.
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Ryan Starwing
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Posted - 2009.12.15 12:08:00 -
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Are those numbers realy true? I thought blasterboats are ment to have the most DPS.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2009.12.15 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: NoNah on 15/12/2009 12:12:20
Originally by: Sokratesz
Edited by: Sokratesz on 15/12/2009 11:32:28
Oh look, its this thread again.
Shush, this is the first in it's kind! And it looks exciting. ;)
Originally by: Ryan Starwing
Are those numbers realy true? I thought blasterboats are ment to have the most DPS.
You'd think. But the blasterboats make up for it with poor tracking(relative to their range), capusing weapons, very short range and rather poor long range counterparts. So it's all good.
All that aside, blasters still deal the highest damage of the turrets, versus stationary targets, when they have bonuses that apply.
Parrots, commence!
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Robert Rumpletweezer
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.12.15 12:13:00 -
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More stats:
Interestingly with a T2 fit the Regular Phoon does more DPS than the Fleet Typhoon, since the 8th damage mod on the Fleet Phoon does less to boost the overall ship DPS than the calibration space for a 2nd Sentry Damage Augmentor on the regular Phoon.
:FAKEDIT: Actually, when replacing the single T1 sentry damage Aug with a T2 damage aug, the Fleet Phoon just overtakes the regular phoon, with 1632 compared to 1626 DPS.
Faction fitted fleet Phoon deals 1716 DPS overall, 1948 overheated.
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Robert Rumpletweezer
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.12.15 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Rumpletweezer on 15/12/2009 12:21:47
Confusion between alts.
Menzies Campbell = Robert Rumpletweezer.
The reason behind the Phoon always doing well in these unrealistic DPS number competitions is down to damage mod stacking.
Consider this, the Hyperion has 8 turrets and 6 lows. Naturally the only way to maximise its DPS would be to fit 6 of the same damage mods in those lows. This means the 5th and 6th damage mods make next to no difference to the overall DPS.
However, with the Typhoon, fitting 5x Siege IIs and 3x 800mm AC IIs (since Siege have the best base DPS of any subcapital weapon) allows you to fit different damage mods in the 7 low slots, namely 4x BCU IIs and 3x Gyro IIs. Since there is a decent range of modules in the lows, the stacking won't be as obscene, and each module provides a respectable DPS boost.
EDIT - Having a little play around, it seems a faction fit CNR (i.e. replacing the BCU IIs with DG BCUs) only does 1707, compared to the 1716 DPS of the Fleet Phoon.
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Robert Rumpletweezer
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.12.15 12:28:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Rumpletweezer on 15/12/2009 12:30:29
Introducing the 5% turret ROF and 5% Missile Launcher ROF implants into the equasion narrows the difference further, with the Fleet Phoon still edging the CNR with 1788 DPS as opposed to the 1785 DPS of its opponent.
What is more intersting is that when overloaded, the CNR finally takes over, since the Fleet Phoon has a higher percentage of its DPS coming from un-overloadable sentry drones, meaning the CNR packs a mighty 2060 DPS, next to the Fleet Phoons measly 2033.
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TimMc
Gallente
Psykotic Meat
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.15 12:49:00 -
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MOAR THEROYCRAFT
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The Djego
Minmatar
Hellequin Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.15 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ryan Starwing
Are those numbers realy true? I thought blasterboats are ment to have the most DPS.
If you are not into EFT numbers only, yes the mega still holds the title(1600 with heat, L5 skills, imps). From someone that got one of this, plus the imps and all the L5 skills, I haven't undocked it since the unholy rage. I used it to solo gank HICs/Drakes and other heavy tanked stuff during the 60s aggro timer.
Even if the play style and the ship had his time, today it isn't any better than the rest of the pure EFT fits.. 
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Originally by: Amantus
Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Thirzarr
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Posted - 2009.12.15 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Thirzarr on 15/12/2009 13:55:32
Oh for crying out loud... Taking explosionradius, velocity and tracking as well as optimal and falloff out of the equasion does two things:
a) Total and utter crap numbers
b) insult CCP as you are removing any kind of complexity from the weaponry.
So... to get proper numbers define:
Range, Speed, Transversal Speed, Targetsize, Resistance
Once you have those, the numbers on the various ships will look a lot different.
A good example is the Phoon: While dishing out astounding numbers in EFT you have to remember that few targets match the criteria of sitting still at optimal with a 650m signature radius. (Rage Torps: http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Juggernaut_Rage_Torpedo)
*throws up a little at simplification @ theory craft*
either do it right or don't do it at all
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Robert Rumpletweezer
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.12.15 14:02:00 -
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Haha, I love how righteous and indignant people get when one of these threads comes up.
Why can't you take this values for what they are: a little bit of fun!
My favourite bit is the claim that I have "insulted" CCP for overlooking the other factors they created. Brilliant.
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TimMc
Gallente
Psykotic Meat
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.15 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Rumpletweezer
Haha, I love how righteous and indignant people get when one of these threads comes up.
Why can't you take this values for what they are: a little bit of fun!
My favourite bit is the claim that I have "insulted" CCP for overlooking the other factors they created. Brilliant.
Because this thread comes every week. People who live on the forums have seen this thread too many times for it to be fun.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2009.12.15 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
Because this thread comes every week. People who live on the forums have seen this thread too many times for it to be fun.
Wrong. 
Parrots, commence!
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Robert Rumpletweezer
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.12.15 14:21:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Rumpletweezer on 15/12/2009 14:21:09
Originally by: TimMc
People who live on the forums
I think this is where it may be going wrong.
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Noemi Nagano
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Posted - 2009.12.15 14:46:00 -
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I agree. 
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Dursun Idris
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Posted - 2009.12.15 14:52:00 -
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Conclusion: Phoon is the best ship to shoot an offline pos 
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Sonreir
Gallente
Band of Builders Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2009.12.15 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dursun Idris
Conclusion: Phoon is the best ship to shoot an offline pos
Nah... that takes ammo. I'd still use a 'geddon. :P
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.15 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Robert Rumpletweezer
Haha, I love how righteous and indignant people get when one of these threads comes up.
Why can't you take this values for what they are: a little bit of fun!
My favourite bit is the claim that I have "insulted" CCP for overlooking the other factors they created. Brilliant.
Because this thread comes every week. People who live on the forums have seen this thread too many times for it to be fun.
And yet you still take the time to post...
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2009.12.15 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sonreir
Originally by: Dursun Idris
Conclusion: Phoon is the best ship to shoot an offline pos
Nah... that takes ammo. I'd still use a 'geddon. :P
QFT
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fuxinos
Caldari
Guys 0f Sarcasm
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Posted - 2009.12.15 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: fuxinos on 15/12/2009 15:31:58
Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Robert Rumpletweezer
Haha, I love how righteous and indignant people get when one of these threads comes up.
Why can't you take this values for what they are: a little bit of fun!
My favourite bit is the claim that I have "insulted" CCP for overlooking the other factors they created. Brilliant.
Because this thread comes every week. People who live on the forums have seen this thread too many times for it to be fun.
So, since this thread is no fun for you, do you live in this forum?
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Drazin DawnTreader
Cutthroat Mercenary Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.15 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Menzies Campbell
The highest DPS, T2 fit only, non-faction, no implant BS is the Typhoon with 1626 DPS.
Next in comes the Raven with 1470, followed closely by the Hyperion at 1468.
Megathron with just T2 modules,ammo and no implants gets 1504 DPS (sentries + Sentry Rigs) and dont forget the Thron does have a spot for a Torp launcher too.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2009.12.15 16:44:00 -
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if you're just throwing strictly paper dps wouldnt you rather use ogres? As they get bonus form gallente drone spec and gardes dont.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2009.12.15 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Deathbarrage
if you're just throwing strictly paper dps wouldnt you rather use ogres? As they get bonus form gallente drone spec and gardes dont.
no rigs/mods to increase normal combat drones dps only sentrys, thus garde IIs do more damage with the rigs fitted (2x sentry drone damage augment).
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.15 17:10:00 -
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ITT: people playing with numbers which have no real meaning in the game itself.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2009.12.15 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Riva
ITT: people playing with numbers which have no real meaning in the game itself.
they are happy, leave them alone.
I undulge these threads like others do, because im at work and cant play eve for realz.
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swedepicker
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Posted - 2009.12.15 17:30:00 -
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Has anybody done numbers for BC and T3?
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