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Kythren
Jelly Baby Corporation
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:36:00 -
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You may have heard about e.g. the JC- BND- EL8- battles in the North lately.
It appears that our usual definition of "lag" has grown to something like not being able to do anything for up to 90 minutes.
Essentially what happened in the past "big" dominion fleet battles was:
Force A, was on grid of the incoming gate with roughly 300(sometimes even 100 suffice)people waiting for their enemy (Force B) to jump through.
What happens next is that Force B foolishly (pun intended) jumped into Force A.
While most of you would think that the whole system will start to lag and the grid won't load for either side, you are wrong.
What happens is that Force A is able to happily shoot and kill Force B, while the latter is rendered helpless, without a grid or the possibility to react.
While this clearly justifies calling it a bug, at least some, if not all, eve-online GMs call this a feature that results from the increased amount of players participating in large fleet battles. I, for one, have had a long but useless discussion with GM Gruber about this "issue".
While he continually repeated almost the same sentences over and over again, I was trying to explain to him why this indeed should be called a bug.
He was not cooperative. My bug report is still open, but it seems that CCP is not going to allocate more nodes/servers for 0.0 space or publicly address that they are working on a resolution for this issue.
Please CSM, address this issue in an emergency meeting, since this will affect all current 0.0 warfare and politics severely. We cannot wait 24 hours for a node to be reinforced, this is simply impossible if trying to defend your territory. This is an utmost urgent issue, we as customers are not able to address this in any matter on our own. I have tried diplomatically, but all I got in response was "there is no verifiable bug like this", while others may received slightly different answers. We were not able to proceed with our request any further and thus the assistance of the CSM is of utmost importance now.
Kind regards,
Kythren |
Relentless Phantsm
Black Serpent Technologies
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:45:00 -
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/support
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Vietac
Killer Koalas
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Vietac on 17/12/2009 21:51:46
/support
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Colmax
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:51:00 -
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Totally agree with the OP. Large fleet battles are impossible now.
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britishfish
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:53:00 -
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Edited by: britishfish on 17/12/2009 21:56:53
/support
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Kalumpa
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:53:00 -
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Edited by: Kalumpa on 17/12/2009 21:55:02
/support
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Wonator
Caldari
2nd Blood Raven Assault Squad
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:54:00 -
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/support
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Braxton Mazimus
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:55:00 -
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/supported... I will stop playing the game soon if this isnt fixed... its not worth me shelling out 15 bucks a month to play like I'm in empire... I'm in 0.0 for a reason...
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DocFloyd
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:56:00 -
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Huge support from me!!!
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Topoih
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:57:00 -
[10]
/support
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Naomi Wildfire
Stardust Heavy Industries
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:57:00 -
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and give us cookies as trade goods!
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New Horizons
Stand your Ground
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Thunder1971
Caldari
Virtual Warriors
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:57:00 -
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/ Support
TBH every 0.0 player should support this as we all benefit from lagfree fleet fights.
Enough is enough
"comrades in arms know the meaning of true friendship". |
Pwnership
Caldari
Black Serpent Technologies
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:58:00 -
[13]
 Originally by: Braxton Mazimus
/supported... I will stop playing the game soon if this isnt fixed... its not worth me shelling out 15 bucks a month to play like I'm in empire... I'm in 0.0 for a reason...
^^ This
It is getting ridiculous CCP, seriously, just becuase you guys can't "verify" something on your end doesn't mean that it isn't happening on ours. Listen to your customers please, I lost 3 BS's in these fights so I know first hand that this truly is an issue.
-Pwn
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StarBurm
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Posted - 2009.12.17 21:59:00 -
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Support
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StarCutter One
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:01:00 -
[15]
Support
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switchkiller
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:01:00 -
[16]
SUPPORT
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hakkiew365
The Penumbra Initiative
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:01:00 -
[17]
/support
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Mantra Achura
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:04:00 -
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/Support
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Aesi Namore
The Penumbra Initiative
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:04:00 -
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/support
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Daedalus Imperator
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Daedalus Imperator on 17/12/2009 22:07:24
/Support
This is a serious issue and as a paying customer am shocked if the service provider will not regonising this as a serious problem that they will need to look at or risk lossing their customers.
If this is not addressed, 0.0 is going to become invalid and I will be taking my money else where.
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Bomrek
The Army of The Ori
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:13:00 -
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/support
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hagg
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:18:00 -
[22]
/support
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Thundirr
Mercurialis Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:21:00 -
[23]
/ Support
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Scoutsy
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:25:00 -
[24]
/support
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Corabor
Metalworks
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Corabor on 17/12/2009 22:33:19
/support
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Jitad
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:33:00 -
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/support
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Kar Stoertebecker
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:34:00 -
[27]
/ support
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Drillass
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:36:00 -
[28]
/support it needs sorting
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Blanks M
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:39:00 -
[29]
support
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Yoshiitsune
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:39:00 -
[30]
support
Im about to leave the game with 3 toons so -support x3-
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Cheeba Don
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
C0LD Fusion
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:42:00 -
[31]
support this 100%
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Fortitudine Vincimus
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:42:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Fortitudine Vincimus on 17/12/2009 22:42:37
/support
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Dengen Krastinov
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:47:00 -
[33]
Serious Issue, supporting 110%.
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Arian Blade
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Posted - 2009.12.17 22:53:00 -
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/ support
I have been in a great many wars, all of them lagging to some point, even involved in a few crashed a nodes, but my experiences in this conflict are something new, On tuesday I was 2 systems out from the main lag fest in a system with 8 in local, an enemy zealot appeared so i engaged, minutes later with him in structure I loose lock, is he dead? turns out he doesn't know either, further 3 minutes later there is a blue flash, 2 mins later a wreck, minute later a pod appears and warps off, still no killmail while writing this 2 days later and apparently the poor guy I shot had no idea what was going on and had no loss mail, all this 2 systems out from the main battle in a system of 8. I have never experienced lag like this, fleet and system lag is worse and reaches further at the moment than I have ever experienced before.
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mjed mazga
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.17 23:03:00 -
[35]
/signed
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krytan
Amarr
The Army of The Ori
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2009.12.17 23:09:00 -
[36]
/ support |
Puppy UK
Amarr
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
C0LD Fusion
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Posted - 2009.12.17 23:11:00 -
[37]
/support
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" Hold On A Second Im Being Shot "
Eve Pawn |
Bonzoli
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Posted - 2009.12.17 23:12:00 -
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I support.
The message that the "people who are going to attack a solar/pos with 250 pilots and know this ahead of time should get CCP to actually put good hardware under it" is a joke. These people have 0 vested interest in fixing your problem CCP. If anything they would expound upon it by adding 1500 drones and all missile boats to make it worse.
This expansion has way to much in common with "Planetside fail expansion". You know when huge chunks of the expert players on the server said screw it after months of saying fixme, that was the end for that game. I loved that game.
The other experts that are using the mechanics also left since they can't really fight themselves and have fun for long. Then the midrange guys noticed nobody was really playing that was fun to play against anymore or join. Then the Newbies noticed nobody played since guys with 4x accounts were leaving and selling toons off. And nobody was buying ore. Sounds dumb. But Planetside 600man fights were epic. And it was a FPS.
I'd suggest you should test out AIX P570s, micro partitions, and partition mobility, but I'd be ignored.
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Rainus Max
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
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Posted - 2009.12.17 23:18:00 -
[39]
/Support
All for big battles alliances dying from failing etc, but if this continues too long alliances that are under attack will fall apart simply because they cant defend when an enemy attack because they cant get in system
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Badgerous One
Amarr
The Army of The Ori
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Posted - 2009.12.17 23:34:00 -
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/Supported whole heartedly
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Echionc
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Posted - 2009.12.17 23:47:00 -
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/support
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Isis Phoibe
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Posted - 2009.12.17 23:48:00 -
[42]
/support
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Harkconnan
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Posted - 2009.12.18 00:18:00 -
[43]
/support
Fed-up with having to look at kill mails to find out how I died. Hey CCP I know the new star-fields are pretty and all, but I'm playing Internet space ships not Virtual Star Gazer 5!
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Calderi Marauder
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Posted - 2009.12.18 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: Calderi Marauder on 18/12/2009 00:25:42
/support
There is litterally very little you as a pilot can do at the moment. You can't properly defend. Right now its all about whoever gets in system first wins, simply becuase the other fleet either cnat get their whole fleet in system and when they do cnat move cnat turn on modules. This is not the normal lag and rubberbanding this is totally De-abliting. PLEASE LAZER FOCUS ON THIS ISSUE.
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Swatter
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Posted - 2009.12.18 00:27:00 -
[45]
total support
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Slippy Pete
Eye of God
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 02:50:00 -
[46]
signed
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PDP Kordal
Gallente
Eye of God
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 02:51:00 -
[47]
/support
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Tryston McWiggles
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Posted - 2009.12.18 02:53:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Tryston McWiggles on 18/12/2009 02:52:55
/support
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CyberHelix
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Posted - 2009.12.18 02:56:00 -
[49]
support this 100%
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Vangari Dei
Gallente
Eye of God
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 03:06:00 -
[50]
support this 100%
There is something seriously wrong with large fleet engagement. This is worse than the old Jump gate issues we had a few patches ago.
Question for CCP... that Dominion vid you posted before the patch. Is that how you would expect combat to work or is waiting 30 minutes to find your in a new clone the actual combat updgrade dominion was inteaded to bring us?
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NATBECKETT
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Posted - 2009.12.18 04:42:00 -
[51]
/support
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Caladain Barton
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 04:49:00 -
[52]
/Full Support of Every WI pilot.
If you need to, we'll add a gm, or whoever or whatever is needed, to our fleet. We'll sign you up, get you in fleet and TS, and you can observe the problem first hand. We'll buy your ship (if you don't want to spawn it), arm it, fuel it, ammo it up, and get you on our Coms. If you need us to run some software to help you track this down and fix it, we'll suicide as many fleets as you need to get you some datasets to track it down. You Can't verify it? Okay..Raise your hand, send me an evemail, and i will take to you it, point it out, and let you experience it.
This is not old lag. Old lag we know how to deal with, it happens, etc. THIS is game-breaking "dying is one thing, but we can't even see the enemy" bad. We had a fleet go 4 jumps before a quarter of them died..to bombs...4 jumps behind them..
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Penelope Perminas
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Posted - 2009.12.18 04:49:00 -
[53]
Fleet battles seem to be far worse than they were before.
Generally lag affects all sides, which makes it impossible, when it grossly affects the side not on grid this makes it unplayable.
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Pemulis
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Posted - 2009.12.18 04:51:00 -
[54]
/support
CCP, please, for the love of all that is holy and true and right, just TELL us that you recognize there is an issue here and that you are dedicating manpower towards a solution.
That is all we are asking for and it will only take you a few seconds to respond. And you know you want to. ;-)
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.12.18 07:19:00 -
[55]
death to lag
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Penderon
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Posted - 2009.12.18 07:29:00 -
[56]
/support
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Kesper North
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.18 07:48:00 -
[57]
Supported!
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Killed me? Read about it in my blog! Northern Lights: Solo PVP in EVE Online
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Ravenja
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
C0LD Fusion
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Posted - 2009.12.18 07:58:00 -
[58]
/support
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Torus Schwert
German Kings
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.18 08:11:00 -
[59]
/support
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Azure Eclipse
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Posted - 2009.12.18 08:18:00 -
[60]
/support
How can you NOT verify this? We have corp directors able to view insurance payout mails (system generated ones no?) before the individual player knows if he is system yet or not.
Don't notice DB lockups? Isn't it strange if Nothing is being recorded for a long time? Cause surely you should be able to notice some sort of issue or out of the norm occurence.
Instead of shooting for a playerbase of 600K and counting the money before its even made, how about make your **** stable enough to handle the 600K in the first place.
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Jools Greatman
Gallente
Krupp-Stahl
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.18 08:40:00 -
[61]
/support
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Khadan Berylli
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Posted - 2009.12.18 09:41:00 -
[62]
/support
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Dimitri Kerensky
Stardust Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.18 10:00:00 -
[63]
/support
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ThAhAnZeL
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Posted - 2009.12.18 10:14:00 -
[64]
/support
0.0 is there for Big fights ( Even in CCP promo's), As it is right now this is not possible and clearly "bugged"
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Desychron Dragon
Strategic Solutions Ltd.
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.18 10:17:00 -
[65]
/support
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JdJinator
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 10:21:00 -
[66]
/support |
TazDev
DRUCKWELLE Evolution
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 10:23:00 -
[67]
/support
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TFC Gimli
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Posted - 2009.12.18 10:23:00 -
[68]
/support
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xracerNL
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
C0LD Fusion
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Posted - 2009.12.18 10:57:00 -
[69]
/Support |
Omega Flames
Last Resort Inn
SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE
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Posted - 2009.12.18 11:01:00 -
[70]
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Christian Amarrius
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Posted - 2009.12.18 12:00:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Christian Amarrius on 18/12/2009 12:00:19
/support
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Hessischer Reiter
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.18 12:11:00 -
[72]
/support
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Sperrzone
Stardust Heavy Industries
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.18 12:30:00 -
[73]
100% support from my side
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Mani Fug
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.18 13:02:00 -
[74]
/support
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Killerhound
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.18 13:16:00 -
[75]
/support
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Officer MacPoopy
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Posted - 2009.12.18 13:17:00 -
[76]
/support
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Bloody Nyo
Stardust Heavy Industries
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.18 13:22:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Bloody Nyo on 18/12/2009 13:22:37
/support
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CodSac
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Posted - 2009.12.18 15:31:00 -
[78]
/support
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tagysan
Krupp-Stahl
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.18 15:54:00 -
[79]
/support
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Moul
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:03:00 -
[80]
/support
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Ryuben
Gallente
Mercurialis Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:04:00 -
[81]
/support
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TUGGY
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:04:00 -
[82]
/support
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stu007
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:06:00 -
[83]
/ support.
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Holy Lowlander
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:06:00 -
[84]
fix this yesterday.
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Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Dawn Rider
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:06:00 -
[85]
/signed
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Lowbridge
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:06:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Lowbridge on 18/12/2009 16:06:26
~signed and supported ..
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Genvu Daikanta
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:07:00 -
[87]
/signed
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Iguanoid
Caldari
The 5th Freedom
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:07:00 -
[88]
/support - Though it would be nice to see a few more Atlas faces in here supporting a better game experience for all...
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TK420
Caldari
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:07:00 -
[89]
/support
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stvenska
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:10:00 -
[90]
Edited by: stvenska on 18/12/2009 16:10:07
/support
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munk33ass
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:10:00 -
[91]
/support thx for the ******ed loss of a ship
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alwayskilling
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:13:00 -
[92]
/signed
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kyrieee
Psykotic Meat
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:13:00 -
[93]
/signed
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Mushin Zen
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:16:00 -
[94]
/support
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Master Bones
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:16:00 -
[95]
support not a fail sail for christmas we dont need eco friendly sailboats in eve we have enough probe ships that actually cloak id have rather had a corpse launcher and a few corpses to load in it (All i got for christmas was this stupid sail boat to launch probes with no probe bonuses ) Fail Sail Al Gore Eco Friendly Sheeps Stink 
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Holron
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:18:00 -
[96]
/support
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Rodrigo Talavera
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:23:00 -
[97]
/ supported
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Don Pellegrino
Helljumpers
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:43:00 -
[98]
Dominion reintroduced massive lag.
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Master Bones
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Posted - 2009.12.18 16:49:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Iguanoid
/support - Though it would be nice to see a few more Atlas faces in here supporting a better game experience for all...
Why would Atlas complain they are knowingly using this problem as a exploit to their advantage)o CCP better do something cause if we lose sov due to this and i lose my stuff in our 0.0 station due to ccp fail its eve over for me ill have to go play wow...NOT but i wont be playing eve PERIOD )o
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2009.12.18 17:25:00 -
[100]
♥
Wreck Disposal Services |
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Cruniac
Gallente
Mercurialis Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 19:12:00 -
[101]
/Signed
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Intaktus
German Kings
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.18 19:54:00 -
[102]
signed.
Seems like Dominion is like W Vista. The next patch after Dominion will be promoted that it brings the same performance again as before Dominion
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Lukac
I dont have that skill
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Posted - 2009.12.18 19:55:00 -
[103]
/support
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TimMc
Psykotic Meat
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 22:08:00 -
[104]
/support
nullsec was better before all this and I've lost 500mil from this stupid bug.
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Njoerd
Gallente
Jelly Baby Corporation
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.19 06:09:00 -
[105]
support
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Lady Australia
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Posted - 2009.12.19 07:54:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Master Bones
Originally by: Iguanoid
/support - Though it would be nice to see a few more Atlas faces in here supporting a better game experience for all...
Why would Atlas complain they are knowingly using this problem as a exploit to their advantage)o CCP better do something cause if we lose sov due to this and i lose my stuff in our 0.0 station due to ccp fail its eve over for me ill have to go play wow...NOT but i wont be playing eve PERIOD )o
DO NOT turn this into a CAOD style crapfest. This is a problem affecting all players and we all must stick together as eve players and not smacktards to get this fixed. Who cares if its atlas, or WI, or razor, or goons or IT, or AAA. This thread is for the good of the game, not for people to abuse each other.
FULL SUPPORT. Start listening to your players CCP and actually have the balls to admit something is wrong. You will get alot more respect then burying your head in the sand and pretending like nothing is wrong
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Meno Theaetetus
Wildly Inappropriate
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.19 08:22:00 -
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Ian Doom
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Posted - 2009.12.19 14:58:00 -
[108]
/ 100% Support
Would be nice, if CCP lets us know here, that they noticed the Problem and read this Topic. Otherwise everybody knows how you care about your beloved Customers: Not at all!
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Agent Known
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Posted - 2009.12.19 16:58:00 -
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Check those support boxes...so many people saying /support without checking the boxes.
On another note, I also have an annoying sig.
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Suppresivehate
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Posted - 2009.12.19 17:40:00 -
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Lost 2 ships in 2 days to an ememy I never even got to see. then didnt even get any loss mails.
And people wonder why so many dont come out of high sec?
/support
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Aphrodite Skripalle
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Posted - 2009.12.19 18:14:00 -
[111]
/supported
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small chimp
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Posted - 2009.12.19 18:38:00 -
[112]
/support
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Avatoin
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Posted - 2009.12.19 19:09:00 -
[113]
Nough said. This is a major problem that needs rectification immediately.
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Dammus
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Posted - 2009.12.19 23:16:00 -
[114]
I am of the supporting faction
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Xolax Castle
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.20 00:10:00 -
[115]
 thats all I can do when I think about this issue and it getting fixed. |
Silk75
Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.20 00:43:00 -
[116]
/Support
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Synbiossa
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.20 00:44:00 -
[117]
/support
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Murella Laville
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Posted - 2009.12.20 02:24:00 -
[118]
Fully support! We got to watch some poor deimos pilot jump into system tonight and it took him 1 minute 7 seconds to decloak and 20 seconds to die with 150 ships shooting at him. Fix the lag!
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Peraxx
Peraxx Lottery Corp.
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Posted - 2009.12.20 03:58:00 -
[119]
Ticking the box and supporting.
Win a Moros for 10Mil! |
Ataman Sirko
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Posted - 2009.12.20 05:40:00 -
[120]
/support
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6onta
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Posted - 2009.12.20 05:42:00 -
[121]
signed
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Aura Omega
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.12.20 08:58:00 -
[122]
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Depili
Blood Works Inc.
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.12.20 10:59:00 -
[123]
Yes, this needs fixing as soon as possible.
Even with RF nodes current 0.0 battles are just about who gets his fleet into the target system first wins, pure and simple. Non-RF node can handle maybe 100 people, RF node can't handle 250 fleet jumping into 250 fleet...
Been in battles with 1000 in local pre-dominion and the lag wasn't as bad as it's now and at least everyone lagged the same then, now if you are in system when hostiles jump in you get to "enjoy" shooting what are basically pilotless ships and the only question is how many you can kill before they e-warp to random safes (and won't still be loading grid).
Maybe the current 0.0 population should simply move to mission hubs and camp the gates with drones out and occasionally shoot themselves so that empire mission runners get to experience the joy of waiting a hour to load the grid...
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Mr Garo
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Posted - 2009.12.20 11:16:00 -
[124]
I, for one, support this issue
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underwoodr
Caldari
Burning Technologies
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.12.20 11:48:00 -
[125]
/sign
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Chajitsoyo
Sanford Space Salvage
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Posted - 2009.12.20 13:55:00 -
[126]
fix spaseships game plz
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Everything in moderation, including moderation. |
Kim Wilde
Covenant
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Posted - 2009.12.20 14:31:00 -
[127]
thumbs up from me
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X treme
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.20 15:31:00 -
[128]
/signed ...
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Mark Galean
Mercurialis Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.20 16:57:00 -
[129]
/support
--
Mark Galean,
Mercurial Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate. (WI.) |
Garulf Hirgon
Gallente
Burning Technologies
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.12.20 17:27:00 -
[130]
/support
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xanavi
Burning Technologies
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.12.20 22:56:00 -
[131]
/signed
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Exus
Die Trying
Circle-Of-Two
|
Posted - 2009.12.21 09:08:00 -
[132]
more than a bug, it's actually used as a tactic to fight on a non reinforced node to get grid load superiority...
yesterday we had a large scale fight in X70 and we went for the fight there jumping in the system where hostiles were allready sat off gate.
we left P-2TTL which was prolly reinforced node because of recent events, and we made a few jumps for fight on hamsterless-node... damn... why ??
We should have fought in P-2TTL but we were allready 400 blues in local, the 400 reds went to gate about to jump bu they didnt, they falled back to somewhere not reinforced and waited us to jump to them...
We held the field in last but hell the lag was insane. EVE is unplayable like this.
We need a dynamic CPU balance over systems...
CPU power should follow large fleets dynamically. Is it impossible to do so ?
I fully support this.
CCP is proud to announce PCU Records but one big cluster without micro CPU management is **** !
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Magnus Orin
United Systems Navy
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.12.21 20:18:00 -
[133]
Supported.
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Bernadictus
Divine Retribution
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Posted - 2009.12.22 09:51:00 -
[134]
Support. Hate dying without ever seeing who's shooting me.
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Sauer Hase
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Posted - 2009.12.22 10:25:00 -
[135]
Apparently Yesterday saw the worst lag yet in K25 with a GM reporting that the node was "triple reinforced". There are reports of 3 hours to load grid and people getting insurance and leaving with their ships intact and other weirdness.
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Lasha
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Posted - 2009.12.22 10:58:00 -
[136]
/support
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Harry Karri
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Posted - 2009.12.22 11:26:00 -
[137]
Supported
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Miss Tittsie
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Posted - 2009.12.22 12:00:00 -
[138]
Supported
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Hornet69
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
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Posted - 2009.12.22 13:01:00 -
[139]
Supported
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Sir Artus
Phoenix Industries
Wicked Nation
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Posted - 2009.12.22 13:51:00 -
[140]
/supported |
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Tealmatar
Phoenix Industries
Wicked Nation
|
Posted - 2009.12.22 13:54:00 -
[141]
I full support this, - CCP please listen to your players |
Mei tais
|
Posted - 2009.12.22 13:56:00 -
[142]
signed |
Elocineax
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Posted - 2009.12.22 13:57:00 -
[143]
/In full agreement |
Ema Fox
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Posted - 2009.12.22 13:58:00 -
[144]
/supported |
Sinister Sibling
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Posted - 2009.12.22 14:27:00 -
[145]
/signed |
Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
|
Posted - 2009.12.22 14:30:00 -
[146]
It's like 2006, 2007 and 2008 all over again.
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Patmandu
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Posted - 2009.12.22 15:01:00 -
[147]
Let's get this fixed
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Brandoe Chung
Phoenix Industries
Wicked Nation
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Posted - 2009.12.22 15:22:00 -
[148]
/signed
Never quote me the odds |
KynthiaMitaxi
Phoenix Industries
Wicked Nation
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Posted - 2009.12.22 15:27:00 -
[149]
Edited by: KynthiaMitaxi on 22/12/2009 15:27:59
Signed
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Arrador
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Posted - 2009.12.22 16:23:00 -
[150]
signed
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Kalain ap'Sulen
Amarr
Dirt Nap Squad
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Posted - 2009.12.22 16:42:00 -
[151]
Signed and Fully Supported.
Quando ami flunkus morti. |
Zangert
Blueprint Haus
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.12.22 17:12:00 -
[152]
/support x 2
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bst
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Posted - 2009.12.22 18:22:00 -
[153]
Signed
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XoPhyte
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.22 19:00:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Kythren
While this clearly justifies calling it a bug, at least some, if not all, eve-online GMs call this a feature that results from the increased amount of players participating in large fleet battles.
This is sad, it used to work, now it doesn't. I would truly be disappointed if anyone from CCP called this a "feature".
Supported.
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Z3r0n
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.22 20:06:00 -
[155]
I fully support this.
Currently Training:
ePeen Compensation Rank (19) |
Cid Arken
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.22 20:18:00 -
[156]
/support
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lucy leu
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Posted - 2009.12.22 20:19:00 -
[157]
support |
Hapey Witredeyes
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Posted - 2009.12.22 20:29:00 -
[158]
/support
Let's here a reply from CCP, shall we? Only 6 pages of support posts....
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Grozen
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.22 21:11:00 -
[159]
i support this.
knowledge is power |
jarrell garick
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Posted - 2009.12.22 21:34:00 -
[160]
support.com!!!! im still waiting for a reply to my ingame petition and for my km from over a week ago.....
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Rasjied
Gallente
DEATHFUNK
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Posted - 2009.12.22 21:38:00 -
[161]
supported
o/ |
Praesus Lecti
Gallente
Vos Combibis
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Posted - 2009.12.22 21:43:00 -
[162]
Supported. Because it is not in our best interests to not bring as many pilots as possible to a fight, such battles will only ever get bigger. These issues of grids not loading after an hour of sitting there will become more and more common and paying customers will leave.
One question I have though: Can predictive grid loading be implement so that the moment you initiate warp the destination grid starts to load?
The server knows the destination grid because it has to calculate the flight ending point, it knows if bubbles are present, etc. It should follow, then, that it should know the location, type, vector, standings, etc of all entities on that grid and be able to updated the client en-route.
It's a bit more difficult when dealing with Jump Bridges, Gates and Titan Portals but that could still be overcome by loading the destination grid once you arrive on the starting grid.
So if you were in U-L4KS at, say, the gate from D-I9HJ and you warped to the K25-XD gate. The instant you initiate warp, the server starts feeding you destination grid information. Upon arriving on the grid with the gate to K25-XD, it starts loading the gate grid in K25-XD at the U-L4KS gate because you MAY make the jump. If you then warp off to a different location, the client dumps the now unnecessary data.
Yes, this would increase CPU and memory load on the client (and the server too)and could translate into a diminished but not catastrophic playability from time to time because you could have 2 different grids loaded into memory at a time. That said, if it allows for a smoother transition and eliminates this ****poor performance we've been seeing, I'm all for it.
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shi'ako
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Posted - 2009.12.23 02:07:00 -
[163]
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Sorotai
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Posted - 2009.12.23 09:55:00 -
[164]
Signed
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Kandrew Dorak
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.12.23 10:21:00 -
[165]
Signed. Get your **** together, CCP.
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Shadessa
Phoenix Industries
Wicked Nation
|
Posted - 2009.12.23 16:13:00 -
[166]
/Signed
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w4jchosen
Caldari Provisions
|
Posted - 2009.12.23 16:21:00 -
[167]
Yup...
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Seth Ruin
Ominous Corp
Cult of War
|
Posted - 2009.12.23 17:16:00 -
[168]
While I don't think it's exactly possible to "fix lag," recent events certainly warrant investigation into things on CCP's end.
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Alexol
Phoenix Industries
Wicked Nation
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Posted - 2009.12.23 17:34:00 -
[169]
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HearNoMore
Caldari
Gallus Eternus
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Posted - 2009.12.24 08:12:00 -
[170]
/signed
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jansaell
Phoenix Industries
Wicked Nation
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Posted - 2009.12.24 08:29:00 -
[171]
signed
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cigar4
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company
Wildly Inappropriate.
|
Posted - 2009.12.24 09:39:00 -
[172]
/support
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Kythren
Jelly Baby Corporation
Majesta Empire
|
Posted - 2009.12.24 09:48:00 -
[173]
Edited by: Kythren on 24/12/2009 09:49:46
without knowing the actual source code i would assume that ccp added a failsafe which should stop grid laggs for all people. and since dominion you get stuck in that failsafe.
however a first step would be that ccp acknowledges this bug, I would so like to post some parts of my conversation with GM Gruber, though it all boils down to him being in denial.
fyi we had a dev watching at least one of our fights in geminate(on a heavily reinforced node), sadly I wasnt there, thus I can not tell you anything about that. |
Lady Isabell
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.24 10:01:00 -
[174]
Edited by: Lady Isabell on 24/12/2009 10:00:56
/support
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Dranari Falanori
|
Posted - 2009.12.24 15:24:00 -
[175]
/signed. Lets kick this lag and get back to business
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Jovian Moon
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Posted - 2009.12.24 17:43:00 -
[176]
Edited by: Jovian Moon on 24/12/2009 17:43:45
CCP, please fix. I'd like to enjoy playing the game.
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Dharken Rhaal
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Posted - 2009.12.24 17:57:00 -
[177]
Probably, just for the start, ships should be invulnerable until grid is loaded to the client of its pilot?..
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Bel'shamharoth
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Posted - 2009.12.24 18:10:00 -
[178]
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I'm not a fig plucker or a fig plucker's son, but I'll pluck figs till the fig plucking's done. |
UNA13OM13ER
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.12.24 18:15:00 -
[179]
/support
Both force A and Force B should load grid at the same time, Not force A sitting on a gate and Force B waiting to find out if they are dead or not.
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craka
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Posted - 2009.12.24 20:19:00 -
[180]
/support. I have lost many ships since the last patch, all I which I did not have the opportunity to even see what was on the other side of the gate. I have been playing this game for many years but am now contimplating cancelling all my subscriptions if this lag issues are not resolved
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Nairb Ecrep
Mercurialis Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.25 05:45:00 -
[181]
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Gene Ferda
|
Posted - 2009.12.25 10:48:00 -
[182]
support
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Octavene Ares
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 06:47:00 -
[183]
support
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Duwane
Stir Crazy Research and Manufacturing
Wicked Nation
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 06:49:00 -
[184]
support
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Captain Mung
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 08:51:00 -
[185]
/support
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Frogpills
Phoenix Industries
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 19:28:00 -
[186]
Signed and supported.
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JohnStar
Caldari
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 19:55:00 -
[187]
support
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i prefer sex with corpses,they dont bi.tch |
Mol'Tawakil Rushd
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.26 19:56:00 -
[188]
support |
DarkNoghri
Gallente
The Knights Templar
R.A.G.E
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 19:56:00 -
[189]
support
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sWsviper
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 19:56:00 -
[190]
/signed
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GallenteDeath
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Posted - 2009.12.26 19:56:00 -
[191]
Support/
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yosef kaldhu
MOTHER-CORP
Majesta Empire
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 19:57:00 -
[192]
o/ support
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nighthawkcm
German Kings
Majesta Empire
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 19:57:00 -
[193]
Edited by: nighthawkcm on 26/12/2009 19:58:50
/supported
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Colonel STFU
Pure Annihilation
R.A.G.E
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 19:57:00 -
[194]
/support
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Fallassar
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 19:57:00 -
[195]
/signed
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Meluria Deshin
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Posted - 2009.12.26 19:58:00 -
[196]
/supported
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Sibras Freeflight
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 19:58:00 -
[197]
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Paula Mayo
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Posted - 2009.12.26 19:59:00 -
[198]
signed
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Yuniko Karisei
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 19:59:00 -
[199]
/supported
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Ozai Enigma
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Posted - 2009.12.26 19:59:00 -
[200]
/signed
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angel's slave
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Posted - 2009.12.26 19:59:00 -
[201]
support
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Ascendic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.12.26 19:59:00 -
[202]
/support this is ridiculous. 3rd time his has happened since dominion its pathetic. Need for speed my ass. Game is completely unplayable and waste of time and money good job on your epic failure ccp.
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Armageus
Caldari
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
C0LD Fusion
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 19:59:00 -
[203]
fix this crap. thats what we are paying you for.
/me support!
Galatic Union - "Killin rats since the beginning of Eve" |
Kouteki
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 19:59:00 -
[204]
/signed
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Dark Cherry
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:00:00 -
[205]
/Support x2
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OvErLoDe
Amarr
hirr
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 20:00:00 -
[206]
WTF CCP fix your ****
support this petiton
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Higgs Foton
Scoopex
Majesta Empire
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 20:00:00 -
[207]
/ support.
___________________________________
Ducttape > steel |
Fjury
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:00:00 -
[208]
support !!
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charlie ZA
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 20:00:00 -
[209]
Edited by: charlie ZA on 26/12/2009 20:00:37
Dominion + Fleets = Fail
Thanks for buffing the PVE and nerfing the PVP 
Charlie ZA |
Rangun Riso
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:01:00 -
[210]
Support !!!
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Reldipar
Caldari
German Kings
Majesta Empire
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 20:01:00 -
[211]
/support
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Tolvari
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:02:00 -
[212]
support!!! I have yet to get into a large scale fight... I always seem to jump into system only to find myself in a station sometime later, after 45 minutes
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Esprit
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:03:00 -
[213]
support
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Tek0ne
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:03:00 -
[214]
support
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Siena Petrucis
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:03:00 -
[215]
/support
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B3a5tma5t3r
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:03:00 -
[216]
/signed
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Cian Enid
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:04:00 -
[217]
So Dominion is the new :facepalm: |
jazz keijhlani
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:06:00 -
[218]
support
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Isx Stealthy
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
C0LD Fusion
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:10:00 -
[219]
/supported
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats. |
Furion118
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:13:00 -
[220]
Support
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Dyinah Fyre
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:28:00 -
[221]
/supported
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SternFalke
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:30:00 -
[222]
/support
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Vlajko san
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:30:00 -
[223]
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Aghira
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:30:00 -
[224]
support
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Dutaki
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:30:00 -
[225]
/support |
Acusy
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:31:00 -
[226]
support
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Tenshin Han
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:31:00 -
[227]
/support
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Ur kahanu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 20:32:00 -
[228]
signed
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Nightshade86
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:33:00 -
[229]
support |
Touched darkness
Minmatar
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:34:00 -
[230]
!
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da'kyle
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:36:00 -
[231]
so u reinforced the node...what is the excuse this time...i would like my ship and implantas back....dak
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Madness0906
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:36:00 -
[232]
Signed
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ViciousFreedom
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:37:00 -
[233]
/support. It's clearly a bug that some have been abusing and needs to urgently be fixed.
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AHOHA
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:37:00 -
[234]
/support
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heee
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:38:00 -
[235]
/ support.
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Skobak
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:43:00 -
[236]
/signed
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riverini
MOTHER-CORP
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:46:00 -
[237]
/support
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Xia Long
Two Brothers Mining Corp.
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:46:00 -
[238]
/support
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Almighty Malachi
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:46:00 -
[239]
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zomaardan
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:48:00 -
[240]
x
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Citrute
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:49:00 -
[241]
moar need for speed. |
Bianca Reeves
Stardust Heavy Industries
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:55:00 -
[242]
/support
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Yes, its true, this signature is for rent! Contact me ingame for further details.
READ - Reeves Enterprises, Advertisement Division |
XxTiggerxX
Minmatar
Stardust Heavy Industries
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:56:00 -
[243]
/support
....some of them...... |
Operator Jenny
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:56:00 -
[244]
/support
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Guy Delbane
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.26 20:58:00 -
[245]
/support
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Gnumpf
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Posted - 2009.12.26 21:01:00 -
[246]
/signed
back to diablo2 soon, pvp-system there is more balanced...
and i heard the new ladder starts soon ^^
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Admiral Asteroidkiller
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Posted - 2009.12.26 21:02:00 -
[247]
/ support /
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Eug316
Scoopex
Majesta Empire
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 21:02:00 -
[248]
[/URL] |
Shachura
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Posted - 2009.12.26 21:03:00 -
[249]
support (for as long as I can take it)
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Anonymous Rami
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Posted - 2009.12.26 21:03:00 -
[250]
/support
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Ri Bjorn
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Posted - 2009.12.26 21:04:00 -
[251]
support helpppppp......
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Erox10
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Posted - 2009.12.26 21:04:00 -
[252]
\support
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Cas Ca'Dego
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Posted - 2009.12.26 21:12:00 -
[253]
If this isn't fixed, there's no reason to play this game. It has become fundamentally impossible to defend space from any organized opponent that can coordinate 300 pilots simultaneously. |
Thom Quaid
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Posted - 2009.12.26 21:14:00 -
[254]
I agree. I won't be playing this game in its present form after my subscription runs out without a serious commitment from CCP to resolve this issue as soon as possible. |
Teclador
Stardust Heavy Industries
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.26 21:18:00 -
[255]
/Support
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Solong
Teclador |
ZeeWes
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Posted - 2009.12.26 21:34:00 -
[256]
/support
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Veranius
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
R.A.G.E
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 22:42:00 -
[257]
/support
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Vasentic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests
R.A.G.E
|
Posted - 2009.12.26 22:56:00 -
[258]
/signed. Fail servers are fail.
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Miriya Satori
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:59:00 -
[259]
supported for this is no way to treat your paying customers.
Can you altso get GMs that know what customer service means. |
Jenna Sol
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Posted - 2009.12.27 07:23:00 -
[260]
Edited by: Jenna Sol on 27/12/2009 07:22:58
They really need to implement dynamic allocation of resources someday. It might as well be done now rather than later, when half the customers will have left because they couldn't stand it anymore.
Or some sort of other solution.
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Mantasoul
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.12.27 07:41:00 -
[261]
/supported
I'd say even though they don't consider it a bug, it could be called something else:
their inability to answer a need, and I'm sorry but that's worse than a bug.
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Severion Atarkos
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Posted - 2009.12.28 00:38:00 -
[262]
/support
This is a whole new monster we got. Pre dominion we could manage the lag but this is something totally new and impossible to deal with.
This needs to be fixed as soon as possible CCP.
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Allianc
Novatech Armada
Amici Noctis
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Posted - 2009.12.28 01:39:00 -
[263]
/support
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Minchurra
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.12.28 02:11:00 -
[264]
Support.
Its no fun if they dont shoot back.
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Lord Drokoth
The Army of The Ori
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2009.12.28 14:00:00 -
[265]
Edited by: Lord Drokoth on 28/12/2009 14:00:47
Support
Sig removed, only one graphic per sig please. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal |
Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.12.28 18:41:00 -
[266]
Support. As funny as it is to shoot ships/pods that are not being controlled by someone, it gets old quickly. Plus, what happens to one can happen to others. Been on the receiving end of grids that don't load but I've never seen them quite that bad before.
Worse than the node crashing, it spawned in handfuls of people at a time. Having 20-30 ships show up by themselves in a "large battle" is just asking for insta-death. |
Thaddeus Brutor
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.12.28 21:20:00 -
[267]
Supported.
I don't care what CCP wants to call it; bug, deficiency, expected load time... your players don't want it. The culmination and very point of your game is going to die off progressively faster until this is fixed.
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Ozudin
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Posted - 2009.12.28 21:41:00 -
[268]
Edited by: Ozudin on 28/12/2009 21:47:18
FIX!
/support
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RAZOR6374
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Posted - 2009.12.28 21:43:00 -
[269]
/agree
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anti20
Reaction Theory
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2009.12.28 22:12:00 -
[270]
/support
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MasterOfKarma
Caldari
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2009.12.29 03:22:00 -
[271]
Dont know its this whole thing going to help but ..
/support
The Only Cure For LifE Is DeatH |
Captain Mung
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Posted - 2009.12.29 08:43:00 -
[272]
P.S. When you support a topic you need to click the little box that says:
"Support this topic: Check here if you want to give your support to the idea/discussion going on"
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2009.12.29 09:39:00 -
[273]
This is the single biggest issue for fleet fights atm: Absolutely supported!
And on a sidenote, CCP and especially GMs have made complete idiots out of themselves by how they are handling the matter.
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Red Thunder
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.29 11:34:00 -
[274]
NC, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP WHINING ABOUT THIS AND GET SOME DECENT FC'S
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2009.12.29 12:26:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Kythren
Edited by: Kythren on 26/12/2009 20:58:03
...
While this clearly justifies calling it a bug, at least some, if not all, eve-online GMs call this a feature that results from the increased amount of players participating in large fleet battles.
...
YAY, way to go.
So pushing the PCU by some 1,000 results in whole fleets being renderer inoperable.
That's some great feature!!
Can we haz summore??
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Fjury
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Posted - 2009.12.29 14:35:00 -
[276]
support!
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Siena Petrucis
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Posted - 2009.12.29 15:18:00 -
[277]
Supported
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Ryuben
Mercurialis Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.29 15:30:00 -
[278]
Supported
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Zion Borrut
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Posted - 2009.12.29 15:31:00 -
[279]
Supported
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Eagles Gift
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Posted - 2009.12.29 16:10:00 -
[280]
Edited by: Eagles Gift on 29/12/2009 16:10:53
As I understand, some alliances are flaming others for petitioning this.
This is just dumb, as you will also be on the other end and will blame this.
What people don't understand is that this is NEW. It worked BEFORE Dominion.
And imho, it is because of the FLEET SYSTEM / WINDOW
/support! |
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Phat Bob
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Posted - 2009.12.29 17:08:00 -
[281]
/support
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Dutaki
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Posted - 2009.12.29 19:07:00 -
[282]
/ support
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Aveng3X
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.29 19:37:00 -
[283]
Sort it out. This is just an obvious regression issue.. I do wonder if CCP performance tests (or regression tests) their new releases at all sometimes.
__________________________
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Darth Nicrus
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Posted - 2009.12.29 20:27:00 -
[284]
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JohnStar
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.29 22:53:00 -
[285]
/support
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The greatest and most handsome male in the universe |
Necronym
Darkwave Technologies
Blade.
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Posted - 2009.12.30 01:50:00 -
[286]
/support
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Stich5150
|
Posted - 2009.12.30 01:54:00 -
[287]
Edited by: Stich5150 on 30/12/2009 01:54:16
support
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Daxel Magmalloy
UK Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.30 02:03:00 -
[288]
/Signed.
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KIZERIAN
SKORPION LEGION
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.12.30 02:09:00 -
[289]
yep |
Tetra gramaton
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.30 02:10:00 -
[290]
Support |
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Iamso McLovin
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Posted - 2009.12.30 02:37:00 -
[291]
/support
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brutorans
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.30 03:02:00 -
[292]
/supported
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drifter raas
Lexicon.
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Posted - 2009.12.30 05:02:00 -
[293]
supporting to look cool
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airdefense
Caldari
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.30 05:20:00 -
[294]
/support
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Serenity2005
Lyonesse.
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Posted - 2009.12.30 05:25:00 -
[295]
Edited by: Serenity2005 on 30/12/2009 05:25:07
/signed
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NsynC Ambition
Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.12.30 06:47:00 -
[296]
Edited by: NsynC Ambition on 30/12/2009 06:47:04
Support,.. but seriously STFU about 'paying customer',.. I think it is pretty obvious that you are ALL paying customers saying it doesnt mean anything,..
Originally by: Omeega
people like me get confused.
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Aria Kasalovich
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Posted - 2009.12.30 06:58:00 -
[297]
/ no support
Go back to Empire!
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OrDeR
Caldari
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.30 07:00:00 -
[298]
support and pen15
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Longtime Luver
Fat J
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.30 07:09:00 -
[299]
Edited by: Longtime Luver on 30/12/2009 07:09:45
if this gunna be that kind of party ill just stick my diq in the mashed potatos.
/supported
You dont read sigs do you? |
Facepalm
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.30 07:25:00 -
[300]
Yarr. The new "strategy" to fleet warfare is alarm-clock it and sit on a gate for 6 hours all so you can "get there first" and end up not fighting.
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Tora Ferenoth
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.30 07:31:00 -
[301]
/support
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Dipluz
PodPal
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Posted - 2009.12.30 07:32:00 -
[302]
Edited by: Dipluz on 30/12/2009 07:32:17
/support! THEY TOOK OUR NODES!!! RABBLE!!
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Dark Motoko
Stormlord Battleforce
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.12.30 07:38:00 -
[303]
/support
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olamubis
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Posted - 2009.12.30 07:45:00 -
[304]
/support
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Atsuko Yamamoto
The Nietzian Way
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Posted - 2009.12.30 08:16:00 -
[305]
/support
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grift nova
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Posted - 2009.12.30 08:17:00 -
[306]
i support this.. i want more epic battles!!!!
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HARYBARY
Bulgarian Mafia Squad
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.12.30 08:19:00 -
[307]
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El Covah
LOCKDOWN.
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Posted - 2009.12.30 09:07:00 -
[308]
The history of NC whining about lag is as long as their overall history.
no support.
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Nucanot
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Posted - 2009.12.30 09:56:00 -
[309]
supported
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Wax Albina
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Posted - 2009.12.30 10:30:00 -
[310]
i support this
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KayTwoEx
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.30 10:30:00 -
[311]
Well, I think it's not a problem of the hardware but like little bugs in the programming which, well, stack with more and more players getting to one system makeing it all fubar.
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aruchra
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Posted - 2009.12.30 10:56:00 -
[312]
Support
PS. Jita is better now
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Jamus Gorrelius
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.30 11:04:00 -
[313]
/signed
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naamira
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.30 13:10:00 -
[314]
i support solar fleet bombing you while you didnt load, yes that sounds awesome, next time come early or stop crying on forum
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Gaius Entellus
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.30 14:37:00 -
[315]
This 'feature' actually prevents fleetfights.. it has to be addressed imo!
Supported
[url=http://killboard.nfshost.com/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=52983] |
Molock Saronen
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Posted - 2009.12.30 15:25:00 -
[316]
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Rochel Hakiri
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.30 15:29:00 -
[317]
support!
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Levistus Junior
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.30 17:03:00 -
[318]
/supported
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Joe Stalin
Unknown-Entity
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2009.12.30 21:11:00 -
[319]
Edited by: Joe Stalin on 30/12/2009 21:12:37
/support
Even though I enjoy reading about the NC losing no matter how it happens.
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Patoa
Mercurialis Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.30 22:05:00 -
[320]
Edited by: Patoa on 30/12/2009 22:05:30
/supported |
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PDP Kordal
Eye of God
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.31 04:41:00 -
[321]
Edited by: PDP Kordal on 31/12/2009 04:41:14
/support
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Brock Lando
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Posted - 2009.12.31 18:23:00 -
[322]
To those people outside the NC supporting this proposal: Thank you for seeing beyond our petty conflicts.
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Njoerd
Jelly Baby Corporation
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.01 01:19:00 -
[323]
Originally by: Njoerd
support
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William Pierce
Universal Army
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.01 07:55:00 -
[324]
/supported
And I thought CCP liked blob warfare?
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Ascendic
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.01.01 20:57:00 -
[325]
Originally by: William Pierce
/supported
And I thought CCP liked blob warfare?
No thats BoB warfare  Now they like IT instead.
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Karn Mithralia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 02:49:00 -
[326]
here here
At leats some acknowledgement from GM's would go a long way, its incredibly tiresome to be told there is no issue.
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HunterHH
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:58:00 -
[327]
/support
I want awesome epic fleet battles and not die while forced to do nothing. And i don't care about if i'm blue or red then. i just want to able to play and not do waiting-online.now
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Cire XIII
Ever Flow
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:52:00 -
[328]
/supported
It would be nice to have some updates from CCP too.
.
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Aqualie
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Posted - 2010.01.04 00:28:00 -
[329]
/supported
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Ghets
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Posted - 2010.01.04 01:31:00 -
[330]
Edited by: Ghets on 04/01/2010 01:30:56
I agree completely.
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hepatitisDD
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.04 02:50:00 -
[331]
Edited by: hepatitisDD on 04/01/2010 02:51:13
Edited by: hepatitisDD on 04/01/2010 02:50:41
/support, but I've already unsubbed 3 accounts so... yeah
Like DJ said at fanfest, I didn't login to play a ****ty game.
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Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.04 04:04:00 -
[332]
/support, definitively.
_______
With the NGE, I'm sorry about the mistake we made. We screwed up and didn't listen to the fans when we should have.
- John Smedley, CEO of Sony Online Entertainment |
David Tellier
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Posted - 2010.01.04 04:15:00 -
[333]
support.
We had lag previously, we have lag now. Fix it.
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EctheleonVara
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Posted - 2010.01.04 04:26:00 -
[334]
/support
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Nimits
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Posted - 2010.01.04 06:16:00 -
[335]
/ support
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kra torii
United Systems Navy
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.01.04 07:45:00 -
[336]
Edited by: kra torii on 04/01/2010 07:45:00
I see Goons, IT and Atlas agreeing here.
Going to support this for that one fact of insanity.
(Oh, and because I, too, hate lag.)
Edit, forgot to add my support
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Taeraki
Gallente
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.04 09:08:00 -
[337]
/support
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Rynra
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.04 09:24:00 -
[338]
/support
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Kushmir
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.04 10:30:00 -
[339]
/support
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Marlona Sky
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.04 11:10:00 -
[340]
Dominion has only been out for a little over a month and look at all these noobs complaining about this new feature.
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SavageBastard
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.04 14:14:00 -
[341]
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Dominion has only been out for a little over a month and look at all these noobs complaining about this new feature.
Only vets that are in alliances that have failcascaded five times have the experience to speak on such issues.
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Nobani
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.04 16:31:00 -
[342]
/support
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Ntrails
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Posted - 2010.01.04 22:26:00 -
[343]
One good thing about this new feature is that it is a ready source of drama.
Who doesn't like drama?
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Darmak X99
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.04 22:49:00 -
[344]
/support
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.01.07 08:35:00 -
[345]
signed.. loosing your ship after sitting waiting for 15 mins for the grid to load sucks for everyone.
What happened to my AF boost? |
Arcane Azmadi
First Flying Wing Inc
Primary.
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Posted - 2010.01.08 05:09:00 -
[346]
Supported.
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Cal Sancerre
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Posted - 2010.01.09 11:33:00 -
[347]
/supported
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Kythren
Jelly Baby Corporation
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.11 02:29:00 -
[348]
As I see there was a sisi testing last week, did you get any relevant info from that? We would like to have at least some update on this situation.
-----
no u!
support my CSM petition
<sarcasm="inside">
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.01.11 05:25:00 -
[349]
Being blown up before you have a chance to see your ship explode is pretty heartbreaking.
[Aussie players: join channels ANZAC or AUSSIES] |
Alden's assistant
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Posted - 2010.01.11 23:09:00 -
[350]
Supported. This is a major problem for which hundreds of customers are complaining; as a service provider CCP must take its responsibilities and ensure things return to normal.
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Paasio Hisokanen
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Posted - 2010.01.12 00:31:00 -
[351]
Edited by: Paasio Hisokanen on 12/01/2010 00:31:42
I don't live in 0.0, but this sounds like it needs fixed pretty badly.
edit: support
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Drazi1
Minmatar
The Knights Templar
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.01.12 21:52:00 -
[352]
/seconded
But what the hell will CCP actually take notice of this ???
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.01.13 00:43:00 -
[353]
Dear CCP: Obvious fix to problem is to load grid before spawning the player's ship on grid.
[Aussie players: join channels ANZAC or AUSSIES] |
grypher
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Posted - 2010.01.13 14:09:00 -
[354]
/support
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ThaDollaGenerale
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.13 23:28:00 -
[355]
Why? Because a single right click is too straining? There are other far more important issues that need to be dealt with.
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ViciousFreedom
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Posted - 2010.01.20 19:15:00 -
[356]
more support!
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Laboratory Technician
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Posted - 2010.01.20 22:12:00 -
[357]
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2010.01.21 07:54:00 -
[358]
Originally by: Mara Rinn
Dear CCP: Obvious fix to problem is to load grid before spawning the player's ship on grid.
The problem is currently the server doesn't "know" the grid hasn't loaded on the client.
Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale
Why? Because a single right click is too straining? There are other far more important issues that need to be dealt with.
When experiencing the grid load issue, rightclicking in space doesn't produce any menu.
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Camios
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.21 15:24:00 -
[359]
Supported. But in my opinion we will always experience lag in very important fights due to the current mechanic.
We need a change in game mechanics that solves this problem once for all, and compels forces to split on different solarsystems. Here is my proposal.
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Captain Mung
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Posted - 2010.01.29 05:03:00 -
[360]
Fix this please. CCP can't advertise big moves to 0.0 and massive fleet fights when their infrastructure cannot handle it.
"Welcome to 0.0, enjoy massive fleet fights where you'll get to:
-Stare at black screens for hours!
-Have little to no control over you ship!
-Have your ship blown up hours before you actually realize it's gone--you don't even have to be logged in!
-Get instantly transported from your ship with full HP to your pod in a station!"
The Dominion trailer was not a trailer at all, it was a fictional video about a game that hasn't been invented yet. It surely wasn't EVE.
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Don Adi
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Posted - 2010.01.29 05:50:00 -
[361]
/support
If this is not fixed somehow, this game is a big waste of time and money!
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Darirol
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Posted - 2010.01.29 05:52:00 -
[362]
/support |
Nardman
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Posted - 2010.01.29 06:13:00 -
[363]
Originally by: Don Adi
/support
If this is not fixed somehow, this game is a big waste of time and money!
Click the "support" check box when replying to support it.
heauheau |
Hannibell
Genco
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 06:55:00 -
[364]
Eve was better when nodes crashed.
At least then patience and persistence was rewarded. The current state of grid loaded= WIN is fundamental FAIL on CCPs part and cannot be ignored.
Lag is bad enough, having the same influence on a fight (other than being a damage sponge) as if I'd warped in and gone out to lunch isn't just lame, it is pure negligence on CCPs part.
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SnK Peel
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 07:18:00 -
[365]
Kinda makes you want to arrage a game wide 'strike' if ccp do not find a soloution
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evey vendeta
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Posted - 2010.01.29 07:56:00 -
[366]
/support
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Inzebaba
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Posted - 2010.01.29 07:58:00 -
[367]
/support
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Beld Ermon
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Posted - 2010.01.29 08:31:00 -
[368]
This really needs to be fixed up, throw some money and hardware at this now before you loose to many people to be able to later.
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Anaise d'Flaumond
Phoenix Consortium
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.01.29 09:41:00 -
[369]
Supported
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Aracna Imahovich
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Posted - 2010.01.29 10:01:00 -
[370]
showing how CCP did a grand cool video about doing large cap fleet battles, i would think that you would actually have done something to support that statement, i really usually dont complain much on CCP, but this one u really * up guys..
/signed!
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Ragnar Stormbringer
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.29 10:44:00 -
[371]
gets my support
cp are advertising eve as a mass onlince fleet battle game so time to live up to the hype
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Tharrn
Epitoth Guard
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 11:29:00 -
[372]
Thumbs up
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sam0r
Men in Blue Mining Corporation
Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 11:51:00 -
[373]
/support |
Kadaver Bomber
Republic-Commando
Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 12:13:00 -
[374]
support
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Bricrue
Minmatar
|
Posted - 2010.01.29 12:21:00 -
[375]
/support
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3rdTimeLucky
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Posted - 2010.01.29 13:04:00 -
[376]
/support
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wert668
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Posted - 2010.01.29 13:24:00 -
[377]
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D melanogaster
The Fruit Flys
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Posted - 2010.01.29 13:31:00 -
[378]
/supported
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Gigis Nooj
KINGS OF EDEN
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 13:35:00 -
[379]
afaik being killed an hour after you log off can't be anything but a bug.. was better when a node crashed.
/support
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Electra13
Amarr
101st Space Marine Force
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.29 13:38:00 -
[380]
/Support
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Sildan Starbreeze
3d Armored Cavarly Muleskinners
Black Hole Horizon
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Posted - 2010.01.29 13:38:00 -
[381]
/support
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Durkuh Durka
DEEzNUTS-DzN
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.01.29 13:46:00 -
[382]
/Support
CCP advertising almost amounts to fraud as it depicts fleet action that simply can't happen.
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DonKavosh
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Posted - 2010.01.29 13:55:00 -
[383]
Support!! I'd like to see the gm's fleet up with us on these large scale battles and on comms to witness first hand what we are talking about.
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Brema Gangrel
b.b.k
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.01.29 14:27:00 -
[384]
supported
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Maxxt0r
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Posted - 2010.01.29 14:59:00 -
[385]
/support
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Skaarl
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Posted - 2010.01.29 15:46:00 -
[386]
great game of the year /golfclap
and yes that was sarcasm, in 09 it might have been, post-dominion its definately borked. i would love to see someone redo the dominion trailer with what sov warfare is REALLY like.
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Yaar Podshipnik
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.29 16:23:00 -
[387]
I agree with the op.
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khan horn
Knights of the Silver Dawn
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 18:15:00 -
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Fully support
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Elymi
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:12:00 -
[389]
/Support
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Maligore
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Maligore on 29/01/2010 19:41:32
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Ion Bartzabel
Caldari
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 19:47:00 -
[391]
Support.
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Pian Shu
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:49:00 -
[392]
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Montague Zooma
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.29 21:50:00 -
[393]
Support.
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Moriancumer
Hammer Of Light
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2010.01.30 03:06:00 -
[394]
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Batolemaeus
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.30 03:23:00 -
[395]
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LTD THOR
Liga Freier Terraner
Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.01.30 17:59:00 -
[396]
support
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Douglas Pearce
Music Martinis and Misanthropy
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Posted - 2010.01.31 05:01:00 -
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I disagree |
Poontangasaurus
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Posted - 2010.01.31 20:22:00 -
[398]
this is a blight on the game currently.
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Gaogan
Solar Storm
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.02.02 00:34:00 -
[399]
Support. This is game destroying. The other day in D-G we had hundreds of pilots wait up to 45 minutes for the grid to load before giving up and logging out. Many got kill mails the next day saying they died 30, 45, even 60 minutes or more after the logout. This is insanely broken.
Thing is, AAA did not appear to be effected by this at all. They were able to finish killing the station then warp to us and kill us before we could kill the sbu which has far fewer hp.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.02.02 01:04:00 -
[400]
see you here i guess?
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Jedrik McKie
United Amarr Templar Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.03 23:20:00 -
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Supported... This is getting redonkulous CCP |
Praesus Lecti
Gallente
Senex Legio
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.02.04 00:31:00 -
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You can't even jump a fleet of 30 people through a gate without it taking upwards of a full minute just to drop from the current system. You click 'Jump'..you see the notification..and you just sit there. After a few moments, the notification disappears and you are still there...so you click 'jump' again. Again the notification shows up and you might even get the jump animation but you still aren't leaving the system.
It's getting so bad that one can't even trust that clicking 'jump' once will actually register with the server. Fix this **** already.
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GavinCapacitor
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Posted - 2010.02.05 14:10:00 -
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Supporting because.. yeah.
I empathize with your situation with the GM's. The customer support in eve seems to be on the wrong side of terrible. Unfortunately I doubt this thread will change the situation with the grid loading bug.
I had a very long back and forth with several GM's in which they told me my pod had received the command to warp and then got scrambled 2 seconds later according to the server logs. It takes my pod a little over .06 seconds to enter warp from a stand still according to the approved evelopedia article (was spamming warp while loosing my ship in low sec to save my pod). Eventually I just gave up because they just repeat the same crap over and over without even reading your replies.
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