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Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 52	Posted - 2011.10.01 01:02:00 - [61] - Quote Q (QU) and O (OH) are still one and the same, basically. Capital letters, that is. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand.
Vestor Magma Planetary Investigation 1	Posted - 2011.10.01 01:25:00 - [62] - Quote Krispy Dingo wrote: Problems with the readout for Shield/Armour/Hull. http://krispydingo.com/images/readout_issues.jpg [...] If I may recycle Krispy's imagery, I'd like to point out that interpunction is near impossible to see in many places, e.g. the Security level and the time.
Absent Sentry 1	Posted - 2011.10.01 01:47:00 - [63] - Quote (almost?) all new text has no shadowing, whether "in space" or inside any given UI element. This makes it anywhere from difficult to impossible to read text against lighter backgrounds, including certain skyboxes. For an extreme example, here the text for a Cynosural Field I against its own effect: http://i.imgur.com/KfkFU.png Note how the bracket itself retains its shadow and is therefore still visible.
Regan Rotineque Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 01:51:00 - [64] - Quote in my character sheet i go to COMBAT LOG Then look at losses (yes Regan has been killed) Each item overlaps the next one in the list. Windows 7 - 64 i7-860 8gb 5770 vid card Cheers Regan
Lykouleon Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 93	Posted - 2011.10.01 02:16:00 - [65] - Quote Honestly, the new font gives me headaches and makes me a little nauseous after a while. Also needs some work on scale. Some elements of the UI don't need to be quite as large as they are while others are perhaps a tad too small. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
ISquishWorms 12	Posted - 2011.10.01 02:19:00 - [66] - Quote I prefer the old font, I find this new one harder to read which I don't understand because it is bigger.
JackStraw56 Bayesian Motion Knights of Tomorrow 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 03:53:00 - [67] - Quote Honestly don't see the advantage to this new font. I agree with the guy who said it looks like a 2001 linux distro font. Preferred the old one.
Rhaegor Stormborn BURN EDEN Northern Coalition. 78	Posted - 2011.10.01 03:57:00 - [68] - Quote New font is really bad. Way too much spacing. Way too big. I would stay with the old rather than the new. Just use a standard font like Arial or Times New Roman. Really, it looks like crap.
Messoroz AQUILA INC 13	Posted - 2011.10.01 04:53:00 - [69] - Quote Scan button in dscan window has the c and a REALLY REALLY close together.
Psychophantic 43	Posted - 2011.10.01 04:57:00 - [70] - Quote Grey Stormshadow wrote: I just leave this here Do not want.

Handsome Hussein 14	Posted - 2011.10.01 05:02:00 - [71] - Quote Grey Stormshadow wrote: I just leave this here This pretty much sums up the experience for me. The new font looks great, very readable compared to the old, but sizing is a big issue. Especially on the overview. Leaves only the fresh scent of pine.
Gregor Palter 77	Posted - 2011.10.01 06:27:00 - [72] - Quote I don't really like the new font, somehow it's just awkward to read. Excuses are the refuge of the weak.
Psychophantic 44	Posted - 2011.10.01 07:55:00 - [73] - Quote Grey Stormshadow wrote: I just leave this here The current font looks better in all situations. There is still difficulty in telling Q and O apart. Multiple zeros look worse. I will have to give up more space to enlarge overview, drone, fleet, watchlist, and chat tabs.
NekoKitten Neko Industry 'n' PvE Pegasus Coalition 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 11:32:00 - [74] - Quote In my opinion, the font is too big. Make it resizable and please give me an option to use the old font instead. And it looks too .. mmm .. how can I say this .. 1980's. Very retro. Maybe a bit too retro ;)
Nathan Jameson Talocan Vanguard Talocan United 24	Posted - 2011.10.01 11:34:00 - [75] - Quote Hooray! CCP finally addressing a much-needed and long-overdue issue! ... Are you feeling okay, CCP? Not that I'm complaining, mind you...
Salpun Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects 36	Posted - 2011.10.01 13:05:00 - [76] - Quote Q needs some work.
Nalha Saldana Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation 9	Posted - 2011.10.01 13:55:00 - [77] - Quote Really ugly font that doesnt fit the game at all, bad work ccp.
cmaxx Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 14:34:00 - [78] - Quote TBH, Using Microsoft Windows' 'Terminal' at '6' pts would work better than the proposed new font as shown today. Freakily there are almost no better-formed, readable fonts with the same density, anywhere. as Terminal 6. If you've not already, do check out http://keithdevens.com/wiki/ProgrammerFonts as programmers have much the same need for highly-readable, compact fonts that make the most out of available screen estate while preserving critical distinctions between similar characters. Sadly I don't think Terminal or (m)any programming fonts have full sets of non-English characters. Anyway, I think there's much to be said about cribbing from Terminal, or the smaller XTerm (fixedsys) fonts, or some of those programmer fonts, and then extending to forrin. It's hard work making good, working, attractive fonts, and I have high hopes.
Cynika Unseen Academy The Unseen Company 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 14:53:00 - [79] - Quote Basicly... I hate the new font look. Glad I can say which one is 0 or O but why does it have to be so ugly. And so big ( I had to make my OV 20% widther to even see same information I had there before) - no, not everybody can play in 1920xsomething. And it's so 8-bit. I feel like playing on my Commodore again.
ISquishWorms 14	Posted - 2011.10.01 15:41:00 - [80] - Quote Cynika wrote: Basicly... I hate the new font look. Glad I can say which one is 0 or O but why does it have to be so ugly. And so big ( I had to make my OV 20% widther to even see same information I had there before) - no, not everybody can play in 1920xsomething. And it's so 8-bit. I feel like playing on my Commodore again. I play in 1920x1200 but still prefer the old font it is more readable than this new one for some reason. Hopefully CCP will give us a choice and we can still use the original font if we so choose.

Nalha Saldana Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation 9	Posted - 2011.10.01 15:43:00 - [81] - Quote ISquishWorms wrote: Cynika wrote: Basicly... I hate the new font look. Glad I can say which one is 0 or O but why does it have to be so ugly. And so big ( I had to make my OV 20% widther to even see same information I had there before) - no, not everybody can play in 1920xsomething. And it's so 8-bit. I feel like playing on my Commodore again. I play in 1920x1200 but still prefer the old font it is more readable than this new one for some reason. Hopefully CCP will give us a choice and we can still use the original font if we so choose. I agree, old font needs fixing but its still better then this crap.
Lady Aesir Ministry of War Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 15:59:00 - [82] - Quote Nice to have a new font however, it is horribly oversized. When displayed on a 1920x1028 resolution the overview window is unuseable. http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1392/eve1.png
Messoroz AQUILA INC 13	Posted - 2011.10.01 16:49:00 - [83] - Quote The above ^^, I have that issue on my main desktop and my 1680 resolution laptop. There is so many size issues its ********. People weren't asking for a new font entirely. They just wanted common problems fixed such as 0 and Os, Is and 1s, etc. Not LETS COPY AND PASTE COMIC SANS INTO THE GAME.
Jayyne Cobb Vindicator Corporation Strategic Alliance 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 17:42:00 - [84] - Quote http://www.trishacupra.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bunnypunch.png When is the right time to use a comic sans font? Stop the madness All the CCP "drama" this year didnt affect me at all. I was even siding with CCP a bit. This? If it's mandatory, I'll do everything possible to make it known to CCP how pissed off I am. ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN EVE COMIC SANS! I'd be more in favor of forcing me to learn kanji and post in old Japanese than this new-font EXCREMENT. DEVS: Read this. Stop drinking for three minutes and read this.
John Rothman Sleeper Asset Relocation Services 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 17:47:00 - [85] - Quote Readable font: GOOD De-caps on menus: BAD Why is this bad? They're readable and they look good all being consistent size. By changing them to caps-on-first, they all look like starts of sentences. Ugly.
Lykouleon Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 95	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:04:00 - [86] - Quote After playing with the new font for 4 hours, I went back to the old font with a sigh of relief. Yes, its readable...but its horrid on the eyes for extended periods of time. It also really doesn't work in well with the UI at all. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
Sgt Maru Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension 30	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:32:00 - [87] - Quote Redundant Report from the Redundant Redundancy Department of Redundancy: Font is too big for normal screens, probably good if you have a big TV or something In chat; names should have some way of distinguishing themselves from normal text (bold font for names) Linking items, etc doesn't seem to work. FONT IS TOO BIG!
BeanBagKing Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing 6	Posted - 2011.10.01 19:21:00 - [88] - Quote Right now my only complaint is that the new font looks a little big. Ideally I'd like to see everyone be able to select their own font size, but I have no idea what this would entail (I seem to remember something about this in the past, and it breaking all kinds of overview stuff). I wouldn't call it perfect yet, but as is, it's a HUGE improvement over the current font.

CCP Punkturis C C P C C P Alliance 86	Posted - 2011.10.01 20:43:00 - [89] - Quote Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it. Some of those issues have already been raised (and in some cases fixed) internally, the Q has for example been fixed I'll be creating defects on some of the other issues. CCP Punkturis \| EVE UI Developer

Vin Hellsing 74	Posted - 2011.10.01 20:46:00 - [90] - Quote I'm not very comfortable with the current font. I'm too resistant to change, I guess. ^-^ At the very least, let us pick which font we use in our clients. I'd appreciate that.



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