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Duran 35
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.08 15:25:00 -
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I am an old fart and need a new prescription for the glasses I wear. New font is a big improvement for me. Me likes! |
Kal Vekstras
Chaos Empire General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.08 18:15:00 -
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Athreya wrote:Rhaegor Stormborn wrote:All of this could be solved, very easily, by making the current font or the new font a choice. Seriously, no one has any reason to complain if both are available I think there are two different versions of GUI (english/deutch, russian) and devs trying to use newer russian for all languages to reduce workload in the future. Otherwise why dont just stay with old font and fix problems in it. Probably not compatible.
If this is true, then CCP should point it out. "Using a single font for all language versions would reduce the workload in the future." That may not be a reason everyone likes or accepts, but at least it's a reason. At the moment, the lack of an official reason why we can't have the option to choose between the two fonts is making the entire discussion far more difficult.
Lots of people love the old font, and lots of people want the change, so I'll pose the question to CCP again. Why can't we have the option to choose between them? An official answer will go a long way to making this a civil discussion. |
Athena Incursion
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:32:00 -
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Please remove all use of roman numerals in Eve. They just add confusion. Simple numbers will work just fine.
Please don't create a new font. Just license and use a standard font crafted by people who are experts at font development. Eve developer time should be spent on FiS and font pros will do a better job than you
I don't mean any disrespects in these comments. The prototypes shown so far are weak if not worse than the existing font. A poor rollout of an imperfect font could have a very large negative impact on eve. Does it really makes to do this design in-house? Just use a proven font.
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.10 13:22:00 -
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Kal Vekstras wrote:Athreya wrote:Rhaegor Stormborn wrote:All of this could be solved, very easily, by making the current font or the new font a choice. Seriously, no one has any reason to complain if both are available I think there are two different versions of GUI (english/deutch, russian) and devs trying to use newer russian for all languages to reduce workload in the future. Otherwise why dont just stay with old font and fix problems in it. Probably not compatible. If this is true, then CCP should point it out. "Using a single font for all language versions would reduce the workload in the future." That may not be a reason everyone likes or accepts, but at least it's a reason. At the moment, the lack of an official reason why we can't have the option to choose between the two fonts is making the entire discussion far more difficult. Lots of people love the old font, and lots of people want the change, so I'll pose the question to CCP again. Why can't we have the option to choose between them? An official answer will go a long way to making this a civil discussion.
I don't know what this person is talking about but it has been stated a few times before (and in the dev blog as well) that the new and old font don't render together so you will not get the option of choosing between the two fonts. sorry, but here is your reason (again:P). CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.10.10 14:05:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:I don't know what this person is talking about but it has been stated a few times before (and in the dev blog as well) that the new and old font don't render together so you will not get the option of choosing between the two fonts. sorry, but here is your reason (again:P).
Unacceptable.
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.10.10 14:42:00 -
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Rhaegor Stormborn wrote: Acceptable.
Fixed that for you, I must say after being a bit sceptical after 8 years of the old font I liked the new font, no big huge change except for the fact that everything is very readable. I like it.
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noise
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.10 19:33:00 -
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Rhaegor Stormborn wrote:
Unacceptable.
It's very acceptable twitterer | blogger |-ápodcast co-host |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.10 19:36:00 -
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Athena Incursion wrote:Please remove all use of roman numerals in Eve. They just add confusion. Simple numbers will work just fine.
Please don't create a new font. Just license and use a standard font crafted by people who are experts at font development. Eve developer time should be spent on FiS and font pros will do a better job than you
I don't mean any disrespect by these comments, but the prototypes shown so far are weak if not worse than the existing font. A poor rollout of an imperfect font could have a very large negative impact on eve. Does it really make sense do this design in-house? Just use a proven font.
Thank you
I don't know where you got the impression that I, a programmer, designed the font I'm just working on the implementation of it. There was a font designer who made the font.
I've been working on FiS for a long time now (as a part of Team BFF) and yes, a new font is a part of FiS.. CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.10.12 01:30:00 -
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noise wrote:Rhaegor Stormborn wrote:
Unacceptable.
It's very acceptable
I guess we will see just how acceptable it is once it is implemented in game. I will be back to say I told you so.
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Athreya
Far Eastern Domen SOLAR WING
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Posted - 2011.10.13 04:15:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote: ... new and old font don't render together...
Recreate old font in a way to be compatible with new font/GUI and add an option to choose font. |
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Mirak Nijoba
Gamers Corner United Manufacturing and Technology Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.13 20:34:00 -
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I don't think you should just change the font of the whole game for everyone. I think you should incorporate multiple fonts. Give people a chance to Chose what they like. Trajan Pro is a good font and it's easy to read. o0O The the font used on the Forums is decent too. Just to allow people a choice in fonts would be amazing. ^_^ |
neur0zen
x Kami x
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Posted - 2011.10.14 02:21:00 -
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EL TITAN wrote:PLEASE PLEASE MAKE THE FONT BIGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I BEG YOU, MY EYE,,, BEG YOU!!!!! +1 We can already choose the font size but it will be really nice to have a greater choice of sizes especially for those who play with a big screen. Choosing different fonts would be great too. Otherwise the new font seems really pleasant. |
CaptainCreep
Cinaam Inc.
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Posted - 2011.10.14 14:03:00 -
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The newer font is cool but on the options window, I find it far better to read if there all caps. At least add the option of how you want it to be. Just a box, that you check if you want the lowercase alternative... |
Arin Nailin
Recycled Heroes
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Posted - 2011.10.20 14:32:00 -
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I appreciate the fonts getting some love but it still looks like a developer is calling the shots on these fonts. I know you're probably used to the look of these fonts because windows has crap font rendering, but I'm spoiled by mac. Even linux has nicer font rendering.
So I have two requests: * Make font size changes global, I like everyone else would like to play eve on a big res. Currently I lower my res before launching even because the fonts are just so small all over the game. * Rock this like I know you can. You have tons of smart people, I know you can do it right, but the current screenshots are not even close to good enough for what I expect from CCP.
This does not compare favorably. (fonts as rendered by mac vs fonts on Sisi: http://cl.ly/2y1132021g3Q2v2J3w06)
In the meantime, thank you so, so, so much for spending some dollars on this. It's one of those things that makes such a huge difference. We really appreciate it. |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.20 19:47:00 -
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Arin Nailin wrote:I appreciate the fonts getting some love but it still looks like a developer is calling the shots on these fonts. I know you're probably used to the look of these fonts because windows has crap font rendering, but I'm spoiled by mac. Even linux has nicer font rendering. So I have two requests: * Make font size changes global, I like everyone else would like to play eve on a big res. Currently I lower my res before launching even because the fonts are just so small all over the game. * Rock this like I know you can. You have tons of smart people, I know you can do it right, but the current screenshots are not even close to good enough for what I expect from CCP. This does not compare favorably. (fonts as rendered by mac vs fonts on Sisi: http://cl.ly/2y1132021g3Q2v2J3w06) In the meantime, thank you so, so, so much for spending some dollars on this. It's one of those things that makes such a huge difference. We really appreciate it.
This screenshot, isn't it just from the devblog? It was written over a month ago. The font is back on SiSi now so I encourage you to go and try it out there and see what you think. We've come a long way since the devblog was posted
CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.10.21 00:19:00 -
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Can someone post a screenshot of the new font on duality? |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.23 09:57:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:The font is back on SiSi now so I encourage you to go and try it out there and see what you think. We've come a long way since the devblog was posted Um... you sure because the font on "my" SiSi looks pretty identical with the old font?
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.24 11:32:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:The font is back on SiSi now so I encourage you to go and try it out there and see what you think. We've come a long way since the devblog was posted Um... you sure because the font on "my" SiSi looks pretty identical with the old font?
when I posted this, my statement was correct CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.24 15:09:00 -
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Ah... It is just me getting old and slow then :)
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David Xavier
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.29 21:35:00 -
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This is getting confusing.. could somebody ( developer or a self proclaimed ninja) make a high resolution screen capture of this elusive new font type with characters of least the English alphabet present ( the more the better ) ?
Would be better to judge that than jumping to conclusions based on unfinished code. |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:24:00 -
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David Xavier wrote:This is getting confusing.. could somebody ( developer or a self proclaimed ninja) make a high resolution screen capture of this elusive new font type with characters of least the English alphabet present ( the more the better ) ?
Would be better to judge that than jumping to conclusions based on unfinished code.
It should be back on SiSi soon CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.10.31 14:14:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:It should be back on SiSi soon Can you confirm UI resize feature? Is it in early development stage or will be delivered in winter expansion?
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:44:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:It should be back on SiSi soon Can you confirm UI resize feature? Is it in early development stage or will be delivered in winter expansion?
you'll see soon CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Tarra Nobilii
Imperial Shadows Ayn Sof Aur
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Posted - 2011.10.31 23:29:00 -
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Just wanted to provide my feedback after loading Singularity. The new font seems rather DOS-ish....the old font, as flawed as it may have been, did create a unique game feel. Furthermore, the new font is easier to read..but that could easily be because the font size is clearly larger. On the settings screen, there are some issues as the font remains jumbled amongst the settings and is unreadable.
I strongly support the old font...then again I am Amarr and struggle with change. |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.31 23:36:00 -
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Tarra Nobilii wrote:Just wanted to provide my feedback after loading Singularity. The new font seems rather DOS-ish....the old font, as flawed as it may have been, did create a unique game feel. Furthermore, the new font is easier to read..but that could easily be because the font size is clearly larger. On the settings screen, there are some issues as the font remains jumbled amongst the settings and is unreadable.
I strongly support the old font...then again I am Amarr and struggle with change.
there are some new features that are missing labels and therefore are way too long and the text gets jumbled, that should be fixed soon though CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.11.01 05:20:00 -
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Christ almighty... the new font looks TERRIBLE.
Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM |
Serican Grind
Caldari Research and Technology The Phoenix Regime
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Posted - 2011.11.01 06:51:00 -
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Unfortunately, this font both looks to "edged" and "jagged". Worst yet, upon launching sisi earlier today and looking at the new font it gave me a headache made me nauseous. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.01 20:23:00 -
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Well I think it is one of the cleanest fonts I've ever read. Fantastic piece of work!
Very well done and thanks
Wish I could use it on my ebook reader |
Natalinnux
RaVeN Alliance RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.01 22:29:00 -
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it hurts my eyes. do not want. |
Isnaar
Unseen Nomads Exiled Ones
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Posted - 2011.11.01 22:46:00 -
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I'd like to provide some feedback regarding the font issue. I greatly appreciate attempts to improve gaming experience via changing old font to new, easier to read one which despite some overlapsing issues looks really well. BUT I consider old font to be one of major components contributing to this unique and attractive game feel. If the new font is to stay I'd love to have choice between new font and old font. New font is much bigger and for people that know what is where and what are they looking for it can make finding some things harder, because items in menus will be much bigger and they will require more space, which could be used to show more positions in old font. It feels like CCP feels the need to take something good away, didn't work with spinning so now the font is on target.
tl;dr: If the new font has to stay at least give us possibility to use ol' good font that we love so much. I don't like new one. |
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