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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1202
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:53:00 -
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Bill Loney wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:you got $60 off on a 13 PLEX deal and you're whining about a shirt
laffo This puts it into perspective and makes it even funnier.
Yeah, that's basically a tl;dr of this entire thread. a rogue goon |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2123
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:54:00 -
[272] - Quote
1: This is a one time offer to purchase 13 PLEX for a special price and we will also give you a Special Edition shirt with purchase.
2: This is a one time offer to purchase a Special Edition shirt.
You need to understand the difference between these two sentences.
You could just as easily swap 13 PLEX for 1 year subscription, and Special Edition shirt for Special Edition Azure Blue Armor in either sentence.
If you did the offer Blizzard tends to make would be the second sentence, and has a completely different meaning than the first sentence. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:54:00 -
[273] - Quote
Ariel Marquette wrote:The devs are too busy laughing at this complaint to type anything coherent.
Yea I know. The sad reality (for me at least) is that what you say is probably true. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3752
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:54:00 -
[274] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote: Lowing the supply of rare ores and increasing its price by 20%-30% is one thing, but artificially implementing a change that deprives hundreds of investors by negative 10,000% return, is far from being "just."
Once again, Dev response to this would be much appreciated.
you got owned son because you are a goddamned idiot
unfortunately, the devs probably aren't supposed to be explicit about that |

Ariel Marquette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:56:00 -
[275] - Quote
I recommend that the OP stop following this thread until (if) it has the blue tag he's looking for. In the meantime, he can play World of Whinecraft, where he apparently has spent hundreds on promotional pixels that are still exclusive to the folks willing to shell out piles of real cash. |

Bill Loney
Hedion University Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:56:00 -
[276] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote:Bill Loney wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:you got $60 off on a 13 PLEX deal and you're whining about a shirt
laffo This puts it into perspective and makes it even funnier. blah blah blah. That is how u perceived the wording, but anyone in there small intelect world would realise that. |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:56:00 -
[277] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:The Antiquarian wrote: Lowing the supply of rare ores and increasing its price by 20%-30% is one thing, but artificially implementing a change that deprives hundreds of investors by negative 10,000% return, is far from being "just."
Once again, Dev response to this would be much appreciated.
you got owned son because you are a goddamned idiot unfortunately, the devs probably aren't supposed to be explicit about that
But you gotta admit, my idiocy is nothing compared to the level of idiocy exhibited by the Great Mittani, your Dear Leader. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1202
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Posted - 2012.06.27 18:59:00 -
[278] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote:But you gotta admit, my idiocy is nothing compared to the level of idiocy exhibited by the Great Mittani, your Dear Leader.
you gotta admit, The Mittani has made some pretty decent financial decisions compared to you considering that he's, well, set for life at 30 a rogue goon |

Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
654
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:02:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote: I had nothing against NEX Store until several of the items that I've purchased for hundreds of millions in ISK, were being sold for $0.50 cents upon the recent patch on NEX.
So as long as it was profitable to you, everything was fine? And once that changed it was suddenly not ok?
Also, the limited offer referred to the cheap PLEX and not the shirt (which you got for free) which is why people here do not understand your complaint. Now, if the offer had said that you would be getting a one off shirt that was only ever going to be available by taking advantage of that particular promotion, then you would have cause for complaint. As it stands your arguments and complaints are invalid. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:03:00 -
[280] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:But you gotta admit, my idiocy is nothing compared to the level of idiocy exhibited by the Great Mittani, your Dear Leader. you gotta admit, The Mittani has made some pretty decent financial decisions compared to you considering that he's, well, set for life at 30
Except you forgot to take into account about my actual real-life financials. This is a pointless exercise. |
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:04:00 -
[281] - Quote
Cutter Isaacson wrote:The Antiquarian wrote: I had nothing against NEX Store until several of the items that I've purchased for hundreds of millions in ISK, were being sold for $0.50 cents upon the recent patch on NEX.
So as long as it was profitable to you, everything was fine? And once that changed it was suddenly not ok? Also, the limited offer referred to the cheap PLEX and not the shirt (which you got for free) which is why people here do not understand your complaint. Now, if the offer had said that you would be getting a one off shirt that was only ever going to be available by taking advantage of that particular promotion, then you would have cause for complaint. As it stands your arguments and complaints are invalid.
Once again, if you have ever examined the wordings and the marketing gimmick that CCP used to advertise this deal where the ISHUKONE SPECIAL EDITION Shirt was issued, a person of mediocre intellect could've assumed that when reading the terms including "one-time offer," "special edition," "one-time only," one could have surely assumed that this was indeed, literally, a one-tine opportunity to acquire this highly collectible shirts. You are absolutely true that the shirt did not cost $260, but CCP surely used a "tie-in contract" to incentivize folks with additional disposable income, to dish out cash for PLEXs, by offering this purported unique items.
You claim that "I got 13 X PLEXs so I should not whine about it" That's not entirely true. Because of CCP's deceptive and ambiguous marketing scheme, many of us were compelled to purchase 13 X PLEXS with the expectation that CCP will hold these wordings including "one-time offer" true for the Shirt. You say we did not incur any costs because we got our PLEXs. There are costs to every transactions and we have incurred more costs than the price of PLEXs themselves. The postponement of purchase for other goods is one. The possibility of having to invest the $260 for additional interest rate is another. There was absolutely no reason for me to purchase 13 X PLEXs all at once, but I did so, because of the compelling and deceptive marketing tactic used my CCP.
What I am asking here, is a simple Dev response that pretty much provides explanation for their odd, cryptic, and deceptive marketing practices.
As mentioned by hundreds of commentators, I understand that I got "****** in every conceivable holes" by CCP.
CCP should provide us with clear message so that this kind of bullshit doesn't happen again... well unless this has been CCP's intention from the beginning. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3753
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:05:00 -
[282] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote: But you gotta admit, my idiocy is nothing compared to the level of idiocy exhibited by the Great Mittani, your Dear Leader.
no dear leader never spent $300 just to acquire virtual pants
i will take drunkenly making a fool of yourself over spending $300 on virtual pants any day of the week |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3753
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:06:00 -
[283] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote:a person of mediocre intellect i found your problem
have someone of normal intellect explain what the offer means to you next time instead of doing it yourself |

Wille Sanara
Felador night Corp
6
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:06:00 -
[284] - Quote
I think Antik is right and this deserves an answer from development team. |

Ariel Marquette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:07:00 -
[285] - Quote
How many times are you going to repeat the same bogus argument? Everyone here has examined the details of the offer, and you're the only one who seems to have gotten it all wrong. |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:08:00 -
[286] - Quote
Ariel Marquette wrote:How many times are you going to repeat the same bogus argument? Everyone here has examined the details of the offer, and you're the only one who seems to have gotten it all wrong.
Not really because the mail I just got back from one of the CCP Devs said he is "aware of the issue." |

Bill Loney
Hedion University Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:08:00 -
[287] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:[quote=The Antiquarian] I had nothing against NEX Store until several of the items that I've purchased for hundreds of millions in ISK, were being sold for $0.50 cents upon the recent patch on NEX.
There was absolutely no reason for me to purchase 13 X PLEXs all at once, but I did so, because of the compelling marketing tactic used by CCP. . Fixed |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3753
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:08:00 -
[288] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote: Because of CCP's deceptive and ambiguous marketing scheme, many of us were compelled to purchase 13 X PLEXS with the expectation that CCP will hold these wordings including "one-time offer" true for the Shirt. ccp forced me, against my will, to spend $300 on virtual clothing |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1202
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:08:00 -
[289] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote:Except you forgot to take into account about my actual real-life financials. This is a pointless exercise.
everyone on the internet is Warren Buffett a rogue goon |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:10:00 -
[290] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:The Antiquarian wrote: But you gotta admit, my idiocy is nothing compared to the level of idiocy exhibited by the Great Mittani, your Dear Leader.
no dear leader never spent $300 just to acquire virtual pants i will take drunkenly making a fool of yourself over spending $300 on virtual pants any day of the week
I spent $260 to get a damn virtual shirt. I don't see anything wrong with that. I am spending what I earned. Some spend it on hookers and enjoy a colorful concoction of STDs and Herpies. I spend it on nerdy items. |
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Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
654
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:11:00 -
[291] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:The Antiquarian wrote: I had nothing against NEX Store until several of the items that I've purchased for hundreds of millions in ISK, were being sold for $0.50 cents upon the recent patch on NEX.
So as long as it was profitable to you, everything was fine? And once that changed it was suddenly not ok? Also, the limited offer referred to the cheap PLEX and not the shirt (which you got for free) which is why people here do not understand your complaint. Now, if the offer had said that you would be getting a one off shirt that was only ever going to be available by taking advantage of that particular promotion, then you would have cause for complaint. As it stands your arguments and complaints are invalid. Once again, if you have ever examined the wordings and the marketing gimmick that CCP used to advertise this deal where the ISHUKONE SPECIAL EDITION Shirt was issued, a person of mediocre intellect could've assumed that when reading the terms including "one-time offer," "special edition," "one-time only," one could have surely assumed that this was indeed, literally, a one-tine opportunity to acquire this highly collectible shirts. You are absolutely true that the shirt did not cost $260, but CCP surely used a "tie-in contract" to incentivize folks with additional disposable income, to dish out cash for PLEXs, by offering this purported unique items. You claim that "I got 13 X PLEXs so I should not whine about it" That's not entirely true. Because of CCP's deceptive and ambiguous marketing scheme, many of us were compelled to purchase 13 X PLEXS with the expectation that CCP will hold these wordings including "one-time offer" true for the Shirt. You say we did not incur any costs because we got our PLEXs. There are costs to every transactions and we have incurred more costs than the price of PLEXs themselves. The postponement of purchase for other goods is one. The possibility of having to invest the $260 for additional interest rate is another. There was absolutely no reason for me to purchase 13 X PLEXs all at once, but I did so, because of the compelling and deceptive marketing tactic used my CCP. What I am asking here, is a simple Dev response that pretty much provides explanation for their odd, cryptic, and deceptive marketing practices. As mentioned by hundreds of commentators, I understand that I got "****** in every conceivable holes" by CCP. CCP should provide us with clear message so that this kind of bullshit doesn't happen again... well unless this has been CCP's intention from the beginning.
Why are you copy pasting a reply to a previous poster instead of reading what I wrote and responding accordingly? The error was yours, not CCP's. No-one has deprived you, deceived you or falsely advertised anything. The advert was quite clear, the shirt was a freebie and the offer was for the reduced price on the PLEX.
Also, please respond to the section of your post that I quoted and made a statement about. Thank you. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |

Alerada
Scalar Aurora
3
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:11:00 -
[292] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote:Weaselior wrote:The Antiquarian wrote: But you gotta admit, my idiocy is nothing compared to the level of idiocy exhibited by the Great Mittani, your Dear Leader.
no dear leader never spent $300 just to acquire virtual pants i will take drunkenly making a fool of yourself over spending $300 on virtual pants any day of the week I spent $260 to get a damn virtual shirt. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Guess you don't need to complain then is there's nothing wrong with that. |

Ariel Marquette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:11:00 -
[293] - Quote
Hey, now he's claiming that the devs are privately taking his side via mails! Any more unverifiable claims you'd like to make? |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3753
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:11:00 -
[294] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote: I spent $260 to get a damn virtual shirt. I don't see anything wrong with that. I am spending what I earned. Some spend it on hookers and enjoy a colorful concoction of STDs and Herpies. I spend it on nerdy items.
just because you don't understand why this is shameful doesn't mean the rest of us don't |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:12:00 -
[295] - Quote
Cutter Isaacson wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:Cutter Isaacson wrote:The Antiquarian wrote: I had nothing against NEX Store until several of the items that I've purchased for hundreds of millions in ISK, were being sold for $0.50 cents upon the recent patch on NEX.
So as long as it was profitable to you, everything was fine? And once that changed it was suddenly not ok? Also, the limited offer referred to the cheap PLEX and not the shirt (which you got for free) which is why people here do not understand your complaint. Now, if the offer had said that you would be getting a one off shirt that was only ever going to be available by taking advantage of that particular promotion, then you would have cause for complaint. As it stands your arguments and complaints are invalid. Once again, if you have ever examined the wordings and the marketing gimmick that CCP used to advertise this deal where the ISHUKONE SPECIAL EDITION Shirt was issued, a person of mediocre intellect could've assumed that when reading the terms including "one-time offer," "special edition," "one-time only," one could have surely assumed that this was indeed, literally, a one-tine opportunity to acquire this highly collectible shirts. You are absolutely true that the shirt did not cost $260, but CCP surely used a "tie-in contract" to incentivize folks with additional disposable income, to dish out cash for PLEXs, by offering this purported unique items. You claim that "I got 13 X PLEXs so I should not whine about it" That's not entirely true. Because of CCP's deceptive and ambiguous marketing scheme, many of us were compelled to purchase 13 X PLEXS with the expectation that CCP will hold these wordings including "one-time offer" true for the Shirt. You say we did not incur any costs because we got our PLEXs. There are costs to every transactions and we have incurred more costs than the price of PLEXs themselves. The postponement of purchase for other goods is one. The possibility of having to invest the $260 for additional interest rate is another. There was absolutely no reason for me to purchase 13 X PLEXs all at once, but I did so, because of the compelling and deceptive marketing tactic used my CCP. What I am asking here, is a simple Dev response that pretty much provides explanation for their odd, cryptic, and deceptive marketing practices. As mentioned by hundreds of commentators, I understand that I got "****** in every conceivable holes" by CCP. CCP should provide us with clear message so that this kind of bullshit doesn't happen again... well unless this has been CCP's intention from the beginning. Why are you copy pasting a reply to a previous poster instead of reading what I wrote and responding accordingly? The error was yours, not CCP's. No-one has deprived you, deceived you or falsely advertised anything. The advert was quite clear, the shirt was a freebie and the offer was for the reduced price on the PLEX. Also, please respond to the section of your post that I quoted and made a statement about. Thank you.
I do this because my previous answer covers it. I do this because what you asked, was asked by dozen others.
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Alerada
Scalar Aurora
3
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:13:00 -
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Ariel Marquette wrote:Hey, now he's claiming that the devs are privately taking his side via mails! Any more unverifiable claims you'd like to make?
I bet he thinks the logs show things too |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2123
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:13:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Ariel Marquette wrote:How many times are you going to repeat the same bogus argument? Everyone here has examined the details of the offer, and you're the only one who seems to have gotten it all wrong. Not really because the mail I just got back from one of the CCP Devs said he is "aware of the issue."
Which simply means he has read either this or the feed back thread.
I suppose they could refund the 500 AUR price to you as a gesture of good will.
Again, a one time offer to get a special price on PLEX and an additional Special Edition shirt with purchase is one thing.
A one time offer to aquire a Special Edition shirt is quite another. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1202
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:13:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Weaselior wrote:The Antiquarian wrote: But you gotta admit, my idiocy is nothing compared to the level of idiocy exhibited by the Great Mittani, your Dear Leader.
no dear leader never spent $300 just to acquire virtual pants i will take drunkenly making a fool of yourself over spending $300 on virtual pants any day of the week I spent $260 to get a damn virtual shirt. I don't see anything wrong with that. I am spending what I earned. Some spend it on hookers and enjoy a colorful concoction of STDs and Herpies. I spend it on nerdy items.
except that a person who spends $260 on "nerdy items" and plays EVE would probably buy tangible goods, like, say these things
You didn't spend $260 on the shirt, you spent it on PLEX. This is a fact no matter how much you insist otherwise. a rogue goon |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:13:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:The Antiquarian wrote: I spent $260 to get a damn virtual shirt. I don't see anything wrong with that. I am spending what I earned. Some spend it on hookers and enjoy a colorful concoction of STDs and Herpies. I spend it on nerdy items.
just because you don't understand why this is shameful doesn't mean the rest of us don't
Then you have no understanding of basic economics. I pity you and your community college education. |

Ariel Marquette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.06.27 19:15:00 -
[300] - Quote
The Antiquarian wrote: I spent $260 to get a damn virtual shirt. I don't see anything wrong with that. I am spending what I earned. Some spend it on hookers and enjoy a colorful concoction of STDs and Herpies. I spend it on nerdy items.
Holy dog excrement! You really do believe you paid $260 for a shirt? I repeat my earlier question: Can I have all the free PLEX you got with your shirt?
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