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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1526
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Posted - 2012.06.28 01:06:00 -
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I'm not seeing them in the Noble Exchange either.
I may be premature here but I think I will congratulate The Antiquarian for having the fortitude to stick to his guns long enough to get CCP to see the error of their ways and pull the contentious items from the NeX store.
This is where all the naysayers in here start the run on buying up what's left of them in the market. I've already cleaned out the Amarr area so don't bother there.
Mr Epeen  There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |

Rikula
Opur
7
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Posted - 2012.06.28 01:36:00 -
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For all those constant critics in this thread, you still haven't addressed the main concern: even IF CCP was within their rights to do this, was it the right move? Was it smart? Was it needed?
As The Antiquarian has pointed out, other games have special limited items, and I think games are better for it. I think EVE, especially, benefits from having both the common and the rare.
This move has had a negative effect on the trust for CCP promotions regarding clothing, and for the NEX store. Many of you may hate the NEX and virtual clothing, and for you this is a good move insofar as it brings disrepute on these aspects of the game. But CCP shouldn't listen to you, because your motives do not match theirs. They should listen to the people that support their idea, insofar as CCP wants to have this area of the game be successful.
Mr Epeen wrote:This is where all the naysayers in here start the run on buying up what's left of them in the market. I've already cleaned out the Amarr area so don't bother there. Mr Epeen 
To fix this issue, CCP will need to not only remove from the NEX store, but destroy and reimburse all those purchases made post-patch.
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Rikula
Opur
7
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Posted - 2012.06.28 01:50:00 -
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Just to give some positive suggestions, I would recommend the following to CCP: a. Either: i) Identify (if possible) all the copies of the shirt (and the red/black women's executor) that existed before the patch, and convert those to some other appropriate item that will henceforth remain special or ii) Remove (as they have) the items from the NEX, and destroy with reimbursement all the copies that were created post patch. Destruction is required though, otherwise the value of these items will be seriously reduced (I favour (i) simply because I suspect it won't annoy people that bought the shirt/executor for cheap price because they wanted to wear itGǪcollectors are probably a little less concerned about appearance and more concerned with rarity - while those who bought them post patch are more concerned with appearance and less with rarity) b) Declare their intentions clearly regarding future products - eg, will they agree that should this happen in future, they will work to correct it?
And further recommendations for the future (eg, to protect the value of the monocle): c) Implement market-sellable ship paint jobs in the NEX (or at least some paint jobs). This will allow people to use their aurum on NEX items that are guaranteed to be of interest to many players, and sellable on market, for what their appropriate aurum to isk exchange value is. What this should do is help get spent some of the stockpiled aurum d) A few months after the above, when ship paint jobs are being sold on market for roughly their true aurum->isk exchange worth, allow transfer of Aurum
By delaying the implementation of aurum until (d), it will help ensure that the value of the monocle does not drop drastically - people will already have a good outlet to cash in their aurum, and a destructible outlet too that means it can be renewed. They won't instantly look to buy the monocle just to sell it for a quick buck.
I think transfer of aurum should be allowed - it's something I want - but not until (d).
Edit: An alternative to (c) would be to simply remove the old items from the NEX store immediately before allowing aurum exchange. On the assumption that they only ever return to the store for their old price, if at all! |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1526
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Posted - 2012.06.28 02:31:00 -
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Rikula wrote:
To fix this issue, CCP will need to not only remove from the NEX store, but destroy and reimburse all those purchases made post-patch.
Ideally, yes.
But I'm reminded of the Pax Ammaria incident where they just quietly removed them from the market and let the situation sort itself out. I don't know that they have the time or ability to wade through the convoluted mess that has been created here and refund isk/ Arum for thousands of items that each went through multiple hands and two different exchange mediums.
No; I suspect they have done what they are going to do and that's as much fixing as we'll see.
Mr Epeen 
There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |

Flakey Foont
171
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Posted - 2012.06.28 02:34:00 -
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Reminds me of the folks who hung at the bank in Britannia exchanging pixels for fake money. |

Kilabi
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.06.28 02:42:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:ADDENDUMPlease refer to the following post on the Market Discussion for those who were adversely affected by CCP's recent flooding of pre-existing rare/unique outfits on NEX Store for fraction of their initial costs.
I try to keep myself calm, but this is just way too outrageous that I had to vent here again and again. You, CCP, made it sound as if ISHUKONE SPECIAL EDITION Shirt was only available contingent upon the purchase of 13 X PLEXs several months ago. I didn't have to, but I took the damn bait, with the expectation that CCP and its honest marketing department will maintain the "uniqueness" and rarity of these special items. But you decide to reward those who took that "extra leap of faith" by treating us like ***** and dingleberries and having these same items available for 50 cents each several months later. Where is fairness in this? CCP, You should have MADE IT ADAMANTLY CLEAR FROM THE BEGINNING THAT AFTER 6 MONTHS, THESE SPECIAL ITEMS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR 50 CENTS EACH! CCP should make appropriate reparation by rewarding the previous faithful ISHUKONE SPECIAL SHIRT owners with other equivalent UNIQUE items. Prior to this debacle, the shirt had a market value of approximately 1.2-1.3B. Now, it costs 11 million to purchase. So far, this has been the message that CCP has indirectly expressed to all the supporters of Noble Exchange, cash for PLEXs, and all other marketing schemes: "Thank you for your contribution. You assumed the risk and this is what you get. You will be the laughing stock of the entire community of EVE Online. We will remain mute for the rest of the period. Oh!! And don't forget: we are here sitting behind the desk, laughing at you too!" ahahahahah
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1526
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Posted - 2012.06.28 02:46:00 -
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Flakey Foont wrote:Reminds me of the folks who hung at the bank in Britannia exchanging pixels for fake money.
I blame you for me spending two and a half hours digging through old boxes for my Mr Natural comix yesterday. God bless Robert Crumb for giving me something entertaining to do while wasting my youth away being wasted.
Mr Epeen 
There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |

Kimmi Chan
Illuminatus Reforged The Revenant Order
184
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Posted - 2012.06.28 03:11:00 -
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Wow. Just wow. This is the second thread I have seen that displays an outrageous amount of angst about SHIRTS.
Yes. You spent real money to get your shirt. Yes. People that are buying the shirt now are also spending real money to get the shirt.
You're upset that you paid more six months ago and compare it to this:
The Antiquarian wrote:Yea, how would you react if you decide to purchase that pretty Mercedes E350 of yours for $48,000 and realize that the same dealership is selling that car for $1,000, 6 months later?
I think that would suck but do you honestly think that anyone would go back to the Mercedes dealership and demand $47,000? Do you think Mercedes would refund that money. If they did they would no longer be in business.
It is unfortunate but internet spaceships apparel is a dog-eat-dog enterprise and I stand in awe of you, the Titan of Shirt-dom. You invest in shirts and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Don't let it get you down. There will be other shirts.
-á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |

Reloadin
4
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Posted - 2012.06.28 03:24:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Wow. Just wow. This is the second thread I have seen that displays an outrageous amount of angst about SHIRTS.
Yes, how silly of us to have the temerity to voice dissent at an oversight by CCP that devalued some of our items by billions of isk. We should stick to complaining about ship insurance or that plex just went up by 10mil.
Anyway, the whole two threads which people like yourself just couldn't ignore and say, hey that doesn't concern me I might not bother with it, seems to have had an effect. No more ishukone shirt or womens executor coat in the nex.
It's really quite baffling how this happened anyway. Shows the level of ignorance about their own product by people working in CCP. Someone working on their MT store was not aware of the collectors edition boxes, the plex bundle, or even bothered to have a look at the market.
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Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
655
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Posted - 2012.06.28 03:29:00 -
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As an owner of the 500 Aurum Ishukone Shirt, I would be interested to know if ones that have already been purchased might well be removed. Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2012.06.28 04:37:00 -
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Judging by the CCPGÇÖs recent action to remove the two highly controversial items from NEX Store, it shows CCPGÇÖs admittance on their mistake to release those two items on the NEX Store in the first place.
Removing those two items is an appropriate first step, but that does not provide any reparation for those who were adversely affected by CCPGÇÖs marketing failure. Those who took the GÇ£leap of faithGÇ¥ in CCPGÇÖs are still disenfranchised by seeing billions of their initial investments on these unique shirts turned to GÇ£dustGÇ¥ due to the untold number of those shirts being circulated out into the market, thanks to CCPGÇÖs mistake of releasing those items for $0.50 on NEX Store.
Obviously CCP can not take away hundreds of ISHUKONE SPECIAL EDITION SHIRT and WOMENGÇÖS EXECUTOR COAT (RED/GOLD) that were purchased for $0.50 post the recent patch.
CCP needs to make appropriate reparations in forms of another completely unique items to the previous owners of those rare apparels. Those are the only GÇ£justGÇ¥ and GÇ£equitableGÇ¥ action. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8254
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Posted - 2012.06.28 04:41:00 -
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Rikula wrote:For all those constant critics in this thread, you still haven't addressed the main concern: even IF CCP was within their rights to do this, was it the right move? Was it smart? Was it needed? Sure. More stuff on the market, rather than languishing as (largely) dead code in the database = better.
Quote:This move has had a negative effect on the trust for CCP promotions regarding clothing, and for the NEX store. Not really, no. It has had the effect of people exposing themselves as the reason why advertising exists: because they read far too much into an offer and vastly overvalue what they get for free. The OP got exactly what he wanted: 13 PLEX and a free shirt. Where's the trust issue?
Mr Epeen wrote:I'm not seeing them in the Noble Exchange either. Personally, I don't even see it on the market, so I still kind of wonder exactly what shirt the OP is talking about. I asked somewhere back on page [very early], but got no answer (which goes with the overall theme of the OP not really being able to show what it is he's complaining about). It might all just be a storm in a tea cupGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
33
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Posted - 2012.06.28 04:42:00 -
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They also removed the discounted launch items (Greave Knee Boots, Mysterio Boots, etc.) and restored them to their previous AUR prices. |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2012.06.28 04:48:00 -
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It is imperative that CCP Devs need to clarify this issue, not merely by simply taking out the two highly controversial items from NEX Store, but a verbal admittance of their screw-up and their assurance that those who took the "leap of faith" are not in the constant fear of having their investments being devalued to "dust" due to CCP's carelessness.
It is imperative because the success of CCP's future marketing promotions depends on accountability and clarity. Once again, no players should be afraid of partaking in CCP's future marketing promotions or NEX Store because of the constant fear of having their investments devalued next to nothing. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8254
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Posted - 2012.06.28 04:52:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:It is imperative that CCP Devs need to clarify this issue, not merely by simply taking out the two highly controversial items from NEX Store, but a verbal admittance of their screw-up and their assurance that those who took the "leap of faith" are not in the constant fear of having their investments being devalued to "dust" due to CCP's carelessness.
It is imperative because the success of CCP's future marketing promotions depends on accountability and clarity. Once again, no players should be afraid of partaking in CCP's future marketing promotions or NEX Store because of the constant fear of having their investments devalued next to nothing. It was pretty crystal clear from the get-go: you got a free shirt.
If you overvalued your free shirt, then that's your problem, not CCP's. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1530
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Posted - 2012.06.28 04:54:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:I'm not seeing them in the Noble Exchange either. Personally, I don't even see it on the market, so I still kind of wonder exactly what shirt the OP is talking about. I asked somewhere back on page [very early], but got no answer (which goes with the overall theme of the OP not really being able to show what it is he's complaining about). It might all just be a storm in a tea cupGǪ
Maybe you're not seeing them because all the people like me, instead of watching the forums, were watching the actual game. When it became obvious the items were pulled from the NeX, we bought out the market before the price jump. I can assure you that there were plenty. You are not making yourself look good by saying you haven't seen them in the market. Log into the game and look again.
Mr Epeen 
There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2012.06.28 04:56:00 -
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Tippia wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:It is imperative that CCP Devs need to clarify this issue, not merely by simply taking out the two highly controversial items from NEX Store, but a verbal admittance of their screw-up and their assurance that those who took the "leap of faith" are not in the constant fear of having their investments being devalued to "dust" due to CCP's carelessness.
It is imperative because the success of CCP's future marketing promotions depends on accountability and clarity. Once again, no players should be afraid of partaking in CCP's future marketing promotions or NEX Store because of the constant fear of having their investments devalued next to nothing. It was pretty crystal clear from the get-go: you got a free shirt. If you overvalued your free shirt, then that's your problem, not CCP's.
Playing wording games and adhering to your suggestions will only ruin the prospect of CCP's future marketing promotions and NEX Store from being successful.
350,000 active players make up the EVE Online. It is vital that there is a healthy stream of those who purchase PLEX for cash / delve in marketing promotions for the long-term success of this beautiful game. At the end of the day, cash inflow is the biggest determinant of the longevity of any profit-seeking entity. |

Flamespar
Woof Club
388
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Posted - 2012.06.28 05:01:00 -
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |

Merovee
Gorthaur Legion Of Mordor
20
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Posted - 2012.06.28 05:02:00 -
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Buy up the cheap shirts and destroy them, resell some of them and recoup your loses.   |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
8255
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Posted - 2012.06.28 05:17:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Maybe you're not seeing them because all the people like me, instead of watching the forums, were watching the actual game. GǪwhere they weren't listed in either the NeX or the market over here. Now, I'll grant you that, considering what a piece of useless tat the NeX is (and considering that it has done this on multiple occasions before), it simply didn't show up unless you did the correct rubber-chicken-wave dance, but there's a reason why I asked what the item was actually called a dozen pages back: because I wasn't seeing it.
Not as in "no items available" GÇö I mean as in "not listed in the clothing section". If there has been a new patch since yesterday, I suppose I could update and see if anything has changed (not that it really matters as far as the OP's core complaint goes).
The Antiquarian wrote:Playing wording games and adhering to your suggestions will only ruin the prospect of CCP's future marketing promotions and NEX Store from being successful. So waitGǪ is that an argument for or against this kind of promotion? Anyway, the good news is that they weren't playing any word games to begin with. They were making a standard one-time special offer: 13 PLEX + shirt, and you got exactly that. You just got suckered in the same way people get suckered by those Gǣfree with purchaseGǥ offers you see everywhere in modern society.
The effect it has on future promotions is nil (unless, at some point, they offer a genuine GÇ£limited editionGÇ¥ and make it unlimited, but that's not what we're talking about here). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2012.06.28 05:31:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Maybe you're not seeing them because all the people like me, instead of watching the forums, were watching the actual game. GǪwhere they weren't listed in either the NeX or the market over here. Now, I'll grant you that, considering what a piece of useless tat the NeX is (and considering that it has done this on multiple occasions before), it simply didn't show up unless you did the correct rubber-chicken-wave dance, but there's a reason why I asked what the item was actually called a dozen pages back: because I wasn't seeing it. Not as in "no items available" GÇö I mean as in "not listed in the clothing section". If there has been a new patch since yesterday, I suppose I could update and see if anything has changed (not that it really matters as far as the OP's core complaint goes). The Antiquarian wrote:Playing wording games and adhering to your suggestions will only ruin the prospect of CCP's future marketing promotions and NEX Store from being successful. So waitGǪ is that an argument for or against this kind of promotion? Anyway, the good news is that they weren't playing any word games to begin with. They were making a standard one-time special offer: 13 PLEX + shirt, and you got exactly that. You just got suckered in the same way people get suckered by those GÇ£free with purchaseGÇ¥ offers you see everywhere in modern society. The effect it has on future promotions is nil (unless, at some point, they offer a genuine GÇ£limited editionGÇ¥ and make it unlimited, but that's not what we're talking about here).
You and your wording games again. For a game that is deemed old and perceived to be suitable only for niche crowds, effective marketing promotions become even more crucial to incentivize prospective players from joining EVE Online. That includes transparant marketing practices with assurance that when CCP claims that a deal is "special," it is indeed a special deal. That includes wordings like "one-time offer" which should translate to "one-time offer" of definite nature, not being available in the future periods.
If CCP continues to say "one-time" here and "limited-time" there, while having those goodies available for prices of *****, then the power of marketing diminishes and no one will eventually take CCP's marketing promotions seriously. |

Disdaine
414
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Posted - 2012.06.28 05:44:00 -
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Tippia wrote:so I still kind of wonder exactly what shirt the OP is talking about
Wow.
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Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.06.28 06:15:00 -
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well that was weird
Disdaine wrote:Tippia wrote:so I still kind of wonder exactly what shirt the OP is talking about Wow.
confirming that posting without knowing what you are posting about makes GD way more fun GÇô postum faex est GÇô-á
never forget
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2012.06.28 06:16:00 -
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Disdaine wrote:Tippia wrote:so I still kind of wonder exactly what shirt the OP is talking about Wow.
Wow I didn't see that. So that pretty much validates that Tippia is here only to spite others and play his "wording games." Despite Tippia's persistant rambling about him being fully aware of the PLEX Purchase & Ishukone Shirt/Collector's Edition & Women's Executor Shirt (Red/Gold) marketing promotions, he actually hasn't even seen the promotions, or let alone, knows which items we are talking about!
What is the point of taking your points seriously when you derive your arguments based on base-less rumors by others? |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
760
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Posted - 2012.06.28 06:41:00 -
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It's funny that you think it invalidates the argument. Incursions still need to be nerfed more. Cut payouts by 50% for all ships worth more than 10m. |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
390
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Posted - 2012.06.28 06:44:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:It's funny that you think it invalidates the argument.
Well, at least CCP agreed half of the points addressed by us and subsequently removed the items in questions, out of NEX Store.
Still one issue remains: reparation & returning the disenfranchised owners to the previous financial conditions.
Oh an most importantly, CCP's assurance that such mishap won't ever happen. Or at least, CCP's promise for a more transparant marketing practices/messages. |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
760
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Posted - 2012.06.28 06:45:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:KrakizBad wrote:It's funny that you think it invalidates the argument. Well, at least CCP agreed half of the points addressed by us and subsequently removed the items in questions, out of NEX Store. Still one issue remains: reparation & returning the disenfranchised owners to the previous financial conditions. Let's count all the times CCP has done that after altering something that an investor lost money on, shall we? Incursions still need to be nerfed more. Cut payouts by 50% for all ships worth more than 10m. |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
390
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Posted - 2012.06.28 06:49:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:The Antiquarian wrote:KrakizBad wrote:It's funny that you think it invalidates the argument. Well, at least CCP agreed half of the points addressed by us and subsequently removed the items in questions, out of NEX Store. Still one issue remains: reparation & returning the disenfranchised owners to the previous financial conditions. Let's count all the times CCP has done that after altering something that an investor lost money on, shall we?
Recent returns with the rare collectibles including Python, Asp, Anaconda, unique ores, Hellhound and rare Mining - Elite/UNUSED drones, and countless number of mine BPCs after their initial screw-up.
And this is crucial to strengthen the "invested people's" confidence in the CCP's corporate governance and marketing practices.
If CCP wants an effective marketing promotions, they need to resolve these issues first. |

Katie Frost
Asgard. Exodus.
59
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Posted - 2012.06.28 07:03:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote: If CCP continues to say "one-time" here and "limited-time" there, while having those goodies available for prices of *****, then the power of marketing diminishes and no one will eventually take CCP's marketing promotions seriously.
If you bought 13 PLEX just to obtain a shirt... then you sir, are an absolute moron. I am hoping that you bought the 13 PLEX for the 13 PLEX and the shirt was just a bonus. Looking at your whinging for the past 18 pages though, I am now quite certain you were after the interweb shirt .
It's like every other marketing strategy out there: buy one, get one free; for a limited time only you also get this; call within the next 30 minutes and we'll throw in this piece of junk for free. It's called MARKETING and one thing CCP can always bank on is stupidity of people, no matter what the market share is.
So, why should CCP not take advantage of peoples stupidity and capitalise on it? People do it all the time, everywhere, in every way.
The funny thing is though, that you didn't even get ripped off. You just imagined that this was a special, one-time item. In fact, it was a one-time offer GÇô [b]referring to the 13 PLEX + shirt[b]. The "one-time" or "limited" had no relevance to the future availability of either PLEX or the shirt itself. You just imagined that part and are now calling it "word play" because your realised your stupidity in believing that this was a limited edition item, when it was never advertised as such.
If anything CCP should continue marketing in such a way because I am positive that there will always be lowest denominators in society that will do exactly what you have done and CCP will, and rightfully should, profit from it. Others will purchase the same shirt and sell it after a week to get even more profit out of it, because they were smart enough to realise that with ongoing upgrades and developments of the NEX store, any vanity item will become available and their value will drop.
I truly hope you donGÇÖt handle your own finances.
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
390
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Posted - 2012.06.28 07:11:00 -
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Katie Frost wrote:The Antiquarian wrote: If CCP continues to say "one-time" here and "limited-time" there, while having those goodies available for prices of *****, then the power of marketing diminishes and no one will eventually take CCP's marketing promotions seriously.
If you bought 13 PLEX just to obtain a shirt... then you sir, are an absolute moron. I am hoping that you bought the 13 PLEX for the 13 PLEX and the shirt was just a bonus. Looking at your whinging for the past 18 pages though, I am now quite certain you were after the interweb shirt  . It's like every other marketing strategy out there: buy one, get one free; for a limited time only you also get this; call within the next 30 minutes and we'll throw in this piece of junk for free. It's called MARKETING and one thing CCP can always bank on is stupidity of people, no matter what the market share is. So, why should CCP not take advantage of peoples stupidity and capitalise on it? People do it all the time, everywhere, in every way. The funny thing is though, that you didn't even get ripped off. You just imagined that this was a special, one-time item. In fact, it was a one-time offer GÇô [b]referring to the 13 PLEX + shirt[b]. The "one-time" or "limited" had no relevance to the future availability of either PLEX or the shirt itself. You just imagined that part and are now calling it "word play" because your realised your stupidity in believing that this was a limited edition item, when it was never advertised as such. If anything CCP should continue marketing in such a way because I am positive that there will always be lowest denominators in society that will do exactly what you have done and CCP will, and rightfully should, profit from it. Others will purchase the same shirt and sell it after a week to get even more profit out of it, because they were smart enough to realise that with ongoing upgrades and developments of the NEX store, any vanity item will become available and their value will drop. I truly hope you donGÇÖt handle your own finances.
Here you are preaching me about finance, when you don't even understand the basic concept of "risk." There are indirect costs associated with purchasing needless 39 x PLEXs all at once, after having been incentivized by CCP to do so with unclear marketing promotions. Far more costs than merely the specified costs.
Before you start preaching me about finance, I suggest that you beef up on your understanding of finance and economics first. My finance is very sound, both here in EVE Online and outside the game, in RL situation. My only mistake was the assumption that I set when purchasing those PLEXs. I held CCP as a refutable company that does not resort to the marketing practices commonly utilized by cash-desperate - deceptive companies including Cryptics, Mythics, and Perfect Entertainment. |
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