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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.02 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: debbie harrio
Is it just me or does Furb Killer look suspiciously like Ankh's alt?
Any to your motion that there is not sufficient punishment for miscreants in eve, I am involved in a 0.0 war and we are fighting in 0.0 and low sec, not all alliances corps have devlared war as per the concord type thing as we don't need that based in 0.0, so far I have killed about 22 reds in low sec and my security status has plummeted from +5 to -6.67, I spent 3 hours belt ratting in 0.0 trying to raise it and managed a raise of 0.5.
You tell me if that is what you are trying to make harder, I detest ratting and grinding in a game to raise my security status, 1 point per day isn't my idea of fun, the way I'm going it is going to take all year to get a positive status and you say the punishments are not severe enough.
Please explain why that punishment of forever shooting rats isn't severe enough for you.
The current security hits in lowsec are a problem, not just for these war cases but also in Factional Warfare and for anti-pirates. Some players have advocated to completely abolish sec status hits in lowsec. The problem with artificial game mechanics is, that it is impossible for a computer to determine intent.
Would you have any suggestions how you would like to see the security status mechanics behave in lowsec? ---
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente Gung-Ho
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Posted - 2010.05.02 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: debbie harrio
Is it just me or does Furb Killer look suspiciously like Ankh's alt?
Any to your motion that there is not sufficient punishment for miscreants in eve, I am involved in a 0.0 war and we are fighting in 0.0 and low sec, not all alliances corps have devlared war as per the concord type thing as we don't need that based in 0.0, so far I have killed about 22 reds in low sec and my security status has plummeted from +5 to -6.67, I spent 3 hours belt ratting in 0.0 trying to raise it and managed a raise of 0.5.
You tell me if that is what you are trying to make harder, I detest ratting and grinding in a game to raise my security status, 1 point per day isn't my idea of fun, the way I'm going it is going to take all year to get a positive status and you say the punishments are not severe enough.
Please explain why that punishment of forever shooting rats isn't severe enough for you.
The incredible harshness of sec status hits is proven best by watching all those -10's podding freely through empire and still ganking ppl in hi sec through the use of an orca in a safe spot loaded up with cheap gankboats for example.
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Larkonis Trassler
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.02 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dariah Stardweller The incredible harshness of sec status hits is proven best by watching all those -10's podding freely through empire and still ganking ppl in hi sec through the use of an orca in a safe spot loaded up with cheap gankboats for example.
You do realise that very few people do this. If any.
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frumpster
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Posted - 2010.05.02 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: frumpster on 02/05/2010 13:15:49 I prefer my canditates to be a litle more mentally stable.
You have ceased to even attempt to explain away the disparity between your quotes and your purported views. I'd not be surprised if members of your immediate family were in politics - you use many of the same tactics. Answer enough of the questions to be seen to replying, but ignoring the juicy bits. Say something enough times and people will believe it (WOMD in Iraq, 'I understand the importance of pvp'), etc.
In the end, your quotes have plenty enough ammo to shoot your own platform down.
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Space Pinata
Amarr Discount Napkin Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.02 13:38:00 -
[215]
Quote: This. Risk-averse people that can't look beyond the scope of their own playstyle and trash out at anyone that doesn't play according to their specific niche.
What risks do you take?
You describe yourself as a carebear (risk averse). You trash on pvpers (Numerous quotes which you refuse to take responsibility for). You want to nerf anyone who doesn't fit your specific niche.
Was this a statement, or a confession?
Hint: We're not here to troll you. We legitimately think you are a bad candidate, and you only further prove our point by pretending that if you call us trolls enough times, all the things you've said (and continue to say) will disappear.
If they are really "out of context", then by all means, provide context. We're all waiting. |
Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.02 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Space Pinata What risks do you take?
You describe yourself as a carebear (risk averse). You trash on pvpers (Numerous quotes which you refuse to take responsibility for). You want to nerf anyone who doesn't fit your specific niche.
Was this a statement, or a confession?
Hint: We're not here to troll you. We legitimately think you are a bad candidate, and you only further prove our point by pretending that if you call us trolls enough times, all the things you've said (and continue to say) will disappear. If they are really "out of context", then by all means, provide context. We're all waiting.
The thing is, every time I provided context, it is ignored, and the trolls just repeat the same old statement which has just been proven false, or pick new things from the post, rip those out of context while ignoring that very same context, and write up another troll post. What is the point of answering if noone wants to hear the answer, but are just looking for more fodder for their crapposts?
Like the "Ankh wants to nerf all PVP", while there are a zillion posts now that clarify how my standpoints lead to MORE AND BETTER PVP. ---
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Dee Tearant
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Posted - 2010.05.02 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: frumpster Edited by: frumpster on 02/05/2010 13:15:49 I prefer my canditates to be a litle more mentally stable.
You have ceased to even attempt to explain away the disparity between your quotes and your purported views. I'd not be surprised if members of your immediate family were in politics - you use many of the same tactics. Answer enough of the questions to be seen to replying, but ignoring the juicy bits. Say something enough times and people will believe it (WOMD in Iraq, 'I understand the importance of pvp'), etc.
In the end, your quotes have plenty enough ammo to shoot your own platform down.
ninjatypoedit
Tech 2 damage control in effect. Linked post now states
Quote: frumpster is a filthy troll. Last edited by Ankhesentapemkah; 05-02-2010 at 09:46 AM.
So everyone will assume that whatever was in that nearly 4 year old post needed to be edited from history.
I am still waiting for an explanation of these two conflicting statements posted to this forum in a single day.
Originally by: Dee Tearant
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah As CSM I'll approach the game from the perspective of a game designer, which is a neutral one.
The CSM are supposed to represent the players. CCP provide the game designers.
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah The problem basically is, that the CSM mostly approached issues from a game design perspective.
Both of these quotes from you posted today though in reverse order. You blame previous CSM failure on acting like game designers but then commit to acting as a game designer if elected?
Contradiction much?
I must be a troll because I require candidates to explain contradictions and empty promises.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.02 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 02/05/2010 14:22:46
Originally by: Dee Tearant
Tech 2 damage control in effect. Linked post now states
Quote: frumpster is a filthy troll. Last edited by Ankhesentapemkah; 05-02-2010 at 09:46 AM.
So everyone will assume that whatever was in that nearly 4 year old post needed to be edited from history.
Correct, because people do not know the context in which it was posted. It came out of an unmoderated trashforum, for your info. I don't feel the need to be held accountable for something that was posted in jest, which is ripped out of context, like all the 'filthy trolls' have been doing for 8 pages now.
Quote: I am still waiting for an explanation of these two conflicting statements posted to this forum in a single day.
It only conflicts if you rip it out of context as partial quotes.
As already clarified, in the very same post with you rip quotes from, the CSM needs to convince the game designers but ALSO needs to convince CCP from a business perspective, and market their issues. Otherwise they remain in the backlog and aren't taken into the scrum sprints.
I'll base my decissions on a game design perspective, but when talking to CCP I will do my best to also market the issues. ---
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Promethian child
Amarr 0utbreak
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Posted - 2010.05.02 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Space Pinata
Hint: We're not here to troll you. We legitimately think you are a bad candidate, and you only further prove our point by pretending that if you call us trolls enough times, all the things you've said (and continue to say) will disappear.
QFT
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Larkonis Trassler
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.02 14:20:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Dee Tearant
Originally by: frumpster Edited by: frumpster on 02/05/2010 13:15:49 I prefer my canditates to be a litle more mentally stable.
You have ceased to even attempt to explain away the disparity between your quotes and your purported views. I'd not be surprised if members of your immediate family were in politics - you use many of the same tactics. Answer enough of the questions to be seen to replying, but ignoring the juicy bits. Say something enough times and people will believe it (WOMD in Iraq, 'I understand the importance of pvp'), etc.
In the end, your quotes have plenty enough ammo to shoot your own platform down.
ninjatypoedit
Tech 2 damage control in effect. Linked post now states
Quote: frumpster is a filthy troll. Last edited by Ankhesentapemkah; 05-02-2010 at 09:46 AM.
So everyone will assume that whatever was in that nearly 4 year old post needed to be edited from history.
Ehehehe. I managed to catch the post before the edit and I won't relate the jist of it here but yeah, girl's got issues. I do continue to enjoy the branding of anyone with a counter arguement or who has dug up some dirt as a troll. You shouldn't play in the mud if you don't want to get dirty.
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dreynar swyglou
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Posted - 2010.05.02 14:38:00 -
[221]
Miss Antspankmyankle or wooteveryourcharnameis the way I see it you have some serious issues with the EVE-O PVP comunity.
You want EVE-O to be:
-PVE based game with people losing 20% of their skills or their entire character for engaging in PVP. -YOU want EVE-O to be your nice little single-player game where your can kill rats to your heart desire and pimp your ships endlessly . -YOU consider PVPers immoral people, evil people for 'hurting' others through non-consensual PVP. -YOU cannot make clear,solid distinctions between this game and real life. -YOU want a permanent seat on the CSM to enforce your PVE and heavenly EVE-O agenda. -YOU make use of smear campaign on other candidates. -YOU consider those that actually suport you your PETS and mindless minions. -YOU edit your initial post to hide your little dirty agenda .
Now the fact of the matter is EVE-O is:
-IT is a game based around non-consensual PVP. -IT has one of the greatest MMO comunity I ever seen(minus yourself ) -IT gives every player the possibility to make an impact on this fictional universe. -IT is a harsh but still fictional world in which most people have fun blowing each other up. -IT has one of the longest learning curves out there among MMORPG games.
I joined EVE-O exactly for that harsh environment, those 'immoral' players as you call them,for the freedom we are given within this fictional world and for the spaceships.
Tell me why would I ever consider you a worthy representative of the player base when you're trying to ruin this game?
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Larkonis Trassler
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.02 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: dreynar swyglou Miss Antspankmyankle or wooteveryourcharnameis the way I see it you have some serious issues with the EVE-O PVP comunity.
You want EVE-O to be:
-PVE based game with people losing 20% of their skills or their entire character for engaging in PVP. -YOU want EVE-O to be your nice little single-player game where your can kill rats to your heart desire and pimp your ships endlessly . -YOU consider PVPers immoral people, evil people for 'hurting' others through non-consensual PVP. -YOU cannot make clear,solid distinctions between this game and real life. -YOU want a permanent seat on the CSM to enforce your PVE and heavenly EVE-O agenda. -YOU make use of smear campaign on other candidates. -YOU consider those that actually suport you your PETS and mindless minions. -YOU edit your initial post to hide your little dirty agenda .
Now the fact of the matter is EVE-O is:
-IT is a game based around non-consensual PVP. -IT has one of the greatest MMO comunity I ever seen(minus yourself ) -IT gives every player the possibility to make an impact on this fictional universe. -IT is a harsh but still fictional world in which most people have fun blowing each other up. -IT has one of the longest learning curves out there among MMORPG games.
I joined EVE-O exactly for that harsh environment, those 'immoral' players as you call them,for the freedom we are given within this fictional world and for the spaceships.
Tell me why would I ever consider you a worthy representative of the player base when you're trying to ruin this game?
STOP TAKING HER COMMENTS OUT OF CONTEXT!!!!!
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.02 14:58:00 -
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Thank you for the nice list of misconceptions so I can answer them once and for all.
Originally by: dreynar swyglou -PVE based game with people losing 20% of their skills or their entire character for engaging in PVP.
False as proven 3 times already.
Originally by: dreynar swyglou -YOU want EVE-O to be your nice little single-player game where your can kill rats to your heart desire and pimp your ships endlessly .
False, as seen by me focussing on FW and 0.0 issues.
Originally by: dreynar swyglou -YOU consider PVPers immoral people, evil people for 'hurting' others through non-consensual PVP.
Depends on the exact type of PVPer we're talking about.
Originally by: dreynar swyglou -YOU cannot make clear,solid distinctions between this game and real life.
False.
Originally by: dreynar swyglou -YOU want a permanent seat on the CSM to enforce your PVE and heavenly EVE-O agenda.
False. I'm against the raising of the term limits as said in the opening post. My 'heavenly EVE-O agenda' is making EVE better for everyone.
Originally by: dreynar swyglou -YOU make use of smear campaign on other candidates.
False. So far I see a lot of candidates in my thread, and slandering me on forums such as scrapheap and tweakers.net.
Originally by: dreynar swyglou -YOU consider those that actually suport you your PETS and mindless minions.
False exaggeration.
Originally by: dreynar swyglou -YOU edit your initial post to hide your little dirty agenda .
False, I added more information.
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Ildryn
The Inf1dels En Garde
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Posted - 2010.05.02 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Ildryn on 02/05/2010 15:27:09 I used to not let any of this bother me. I never cared about CSM or what happened as long as EVE just continued to get bigger and more exciting.
However recently that has changed...i have been a pirate and a carebear. I have had officer fits for mission running and participated in the gank. Now i must say i dont think Ankhesentapemkah is right for this position. Please dont vote for someone who wants to gimp people who want to pvp in a pvp game.
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Dirk Culliford
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.02 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: dreynar swyglou -YOU want EVE-O to be your nice little single-player game where your can kill rats to your heart desire and pimp your ships endlessly .
False, as seen by me focussing on FW
By 'focusing on FW' do you mean running FW missions without ever actually engaging in pvp?
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AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.02 15:36:00 -
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Ankh, I have a question I'm sure you won't answer because it's a "troll", however legitimate it may be.
My question: Who do you really think you're fooling here? If you don't think we see right through you, you clearly underestimate the intelligence of this community, and it's frankly rather insulting.
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Danks
Caldari Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
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Posted - 2010.05.02 15:49:00 -
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Interesting read. As one of the faceless voters out there I can say I will be taking my four votes elsewhere.
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Space Pinata
Amarr Discount Napkin Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.02 16:59:00 -
[228]
Quote: False. I'm against the raising of the term limits as said in the opening post. My 'heavenly EVE-O agenda' is making EVE better for everyone.
Now, I'm not taking this out of context. You can't spin this.
You are a liar.
You are not against raising term limits when you are taking advantage of them for another term. If you are against them, put your money where your mouth is, practice what you say you believe.
How can anyone trust you when you're already openly violating your own principles? |
Dariah Stardweller
Gallente Gung-Ho
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Posted - 2010.05.02 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: Dariah Stardweller on 02/05/2010 19:01:08
Originally by: Larkonis Trassler
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller The incredible harshness of sec status hits is proven best by watching all those -10's podding freely through empire and still ganking ppl in hi sec through the use of an orca in a safe spot loaded up with cheap gankboats for example.
You do realise that very few people do this. If any.
I can't tell you what all those -10's in hi sec are doing, but there are so many of them moving around freely that it's obvious to even the daftest of ppl that sec status hits aren't that harsh of a punishment.
Somehow, however, I doubt all those -10's podding through hi sec are there just to adjust there market orders, don't you?
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Disunia Vertas
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.02 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Disunia Vertas on 02/05/2010 19:23:05 Quick question:
Why do you think you are able to represent '0.0' while you've hardly ever participated in it? As far as i can see all you have done is a few missions and some complexes.
Quote: False. I'm against the raising of the term limits as said in the opening post. My 'heavenly EVE-O agenda' is making EVE better for everyone.
You can't make EVE better for everybody. If you change something in favor for 1 person, another will have a bad day. Now the question is.. Who will have the bad day?
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Caoim Fearghul
Caldari The First Church of the Azure Carrot The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.02 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Dariah Stardweller Edited by: Dariah Stardweller on 02/05/2010 19:01:08
Originally by: Larkonis Trassler
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller The incredible harshness of sec status hits is proven best by watching all those -10's podding freely through empire and still ganking ppl in hi sec through the use of an orca in a safe spot loaded up with cheap gankboats for example.
You do realise that very few people do this. If any.
I can't tell you what all those -10's in hi sec are doing, but there are so many of them moving around freely that it's obvious to even the daftest of ppl that sec status hits aren't that harsh of a punishment.
Somehow, however, I doubt all those -10's podding through hi sec are there just to adjust there market orders, don't you?
Or perhaps shortcutting across high sec to get to another area of low or null sec without taking a 40 plus jump route?
Seriously, you're asserting it's a problem. It's something I've hardly ever seen happening. I normally see -10's around short transit routes or near market hubs...so, yeah, I suspect they are mostly moving or changing orders. Prodesse Non Nocere
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.02 19:35:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 02/05/2010 19:36:49
Originally by: debbie harrio
Is it just me or does Furb Killer look suspiciously like Ankh's alt?
Any to your motion that there is not sufficient punishment for miscreants in eve, I am involved in a 0.0 war and we are fighting in 0.0 and low sec, not all alliances corps have devlared war as per the concord type thing as we don't need that based in 0.0, so far I have killed about 22 reds in low sec and my security status has plummeted from +5 to -6.67, I spent 3 hours belt ratting in 0.0 trying to raise it and managed a raise of 0.5.
You tell me if that is what you are trying to make harder, I detest ratting and grinding in a game to raise my security status, 1 point per day isn't my idea of fun, the way I'm going it is going to take all year to get a positive status and you say the punishments are not severe enough.
Please explain why that punishment of forever shooting rats isn't severe enough for you.
You can get positive again in no time, either do it more efficient or just do it for the isk and take the sec status increase as a bonus. But even then it shouldnt take too long.
Btw, it is just you, you are a paranoid. Still would like to have boobies though, ah well, wishfull thinking.
Quote: Please dont vote for someone who wants to gimp people who want to pvp in a pvp game.
You mean dont let people actually pvp? (As with bounties you would get, honestly the larger part of suicide ganking is pve).
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Disunia Vertas
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.02 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Edited by: Furb Killer on 02/05/2010 19:36:49 You can get positive again in no time, either do it more efficient or just do it for the isk and take the sec status increase as a bonus. But even then it shouldnt take too long.
That entirely depends on what type of 0.0 access you have. It will take ages if you can't get to a spot that allows you to rat in a non-cloaky ship. Which is quite punishing imo.
Ofcourse if you take care of sec hits before you go below -2.0 it's alot easier.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.02 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Correct, because people do not know the context in which it was posted. It came out of an unmoderated trashforum, for your info. I don't feel the need to be held accountable for something that was posted in jest, which is ripped out of context, like all the 'filthy trolls' have been doing for 8 pages now.
I didn't see the original post, so I can't speak to its content. But then, neither did most of the people reading this now, they can only work off what you haven't edited away and what's said here. I can see the original thread, and I can see your defence of the post. The thread started off with "How many people have acctually considered suicide?", and you posted something "in jest" as a reply that you removed because it would make you look bad. To my mind, that translates into you having made fun of the suicidal. I obviously don't know whether that's the case, but that's sure how you're making it seem. If that's not the case, you may want to rethink your damage control tactics.
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: dreynar swyglou -YOU consider PVPers immoral people, evil people for 'hurting' others through non-consensual PVP.
Depends on the exact type of PVPer we're talking about.
There are many things you could have said there that might have placated us. This? Not one of them.
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: dreynar swyglou -YOU want a permanent seat on the CSM to enforce your PVE and heavenly EVE-O agenda.
False. I'm against the raising of the term limits as said in the opening post.
And yet, that opposition hasn't stopped you from running again.
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller I can't tell you what all those -10's in hi sec are doing, but there are so many of them moving around freely that it's obvious to even the daftest of ppl that sec status hits aren't that harsh of a punishment.
Somehow, however, I doubt all those -10's podding through hi sec are there just to adjust there market orders, don't you?
No, a lot of them are there to buy implants and skills, or to buy light ships that they can run out to lowsec faster than the faction police can kill them. Or they're flying to a different lowsec pocket.
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Ticarus Hellbrandt
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Posted - 2010.05.02 19:57:00 -
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hi there, what are your views on boosting piracy and high sec crime? I think these areas have been ignored for far to long and need to be improved.
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente Gung-Ho
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Posted - 2010.05.02 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Caoim Fearghul
Or perhaps shortcutting across high sec to get to another area of low or null sec without taking a 40 plus jump route?
Seriously, you're asserting it's a problem. It's something I've hardly ever seen happening. I normally see -10's around short transit routes or near market hubs...so, yeah, I suspect they are mostly moving or changing orders.
I'm merely stating that if -10's can move around hi sec so freely to go about there business then maybe having negative sec status ain't that 'harsh' of a punishment. Cause someone was whining about it being all such a big deal
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.02 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dariah Stardweller I'm merely stating that if -10's can move around hi sec so freely to go about there business then maybe having negative sec status ain't that 'harsh' of a punishment. Cause someone was whining about it being all such a big deal
Yeah, they can move around highsec freely, unless they want to use ships. But of course, it's not like this is a game about spaceships, after all.
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Dariah Stardweller
Gallente Gung-Ho
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Posted - 2010.05.02 21:17:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller I'm merely stating that if -10's can move around hi sec so freely to go about there business then maybe having negative sec status ain't that 'harsh' of a punishment. Cause someone was whining about it being all such a big deal
Yeah, they can move around highsec freely, unless they want to use ships. But of course, it's not like this is a game about spaceships, after all.
Yes, EVE is completely about using ships, ofcourse, nothing to do in EVE but fly ships...
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Caoim Fearghul
Caldari The First Church of the Azure Carrot The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.03 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller I'm merely stating that if -10's can move around hi sec so freely to go about there business then maybe having negative sec status ain't that 'harsh' of a punishment. Cause someone was whining about it being all such a big deal
Yeah, they can move around highsec freely, unless they want to use ships. But of course, it's not like this is a game about spaceships, after all.
Yes, EVE is completely about using ships, ofcourse, nothing to do in EVE but fly ships...
So, what exactly is there to do without a ship? Run jobs (though you cant move goods to market or gather materials without a ship...) Market trading (of course you cant exploit market differentials without a ship...) Research agents (which is about the only thing you can do to full effect without a ship, though you'll need one to gain the standings first of all...) Station spin (works best with a pretty ship, so you'll need to be in a market hub for best effect...) Prodesse Non Nocere
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2010.05.03 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah False. So far I see a lot of candidates in my thread, and slandering me on forums such as scrapheap and tweakers.net
Incorrect. You accused me of any number of exploiting in my thread when I ran for CSM. Among them you accused me of flying in stabbed and cloaking ships and bugging plexes without a shred of evidence.
However, you did post an image of yourself happily flying in cloaked/stabbed frigate and not pulling an aggro from full npc spawn of caldari rats.
And when we finally had enough of this crap and decided to show what could be achieved if done on industrial scale (Amarr/Minmatar front) it suddenly become a problem and exploit in your opinion and you wanted people banned for using it (See message from Larkonis earlier).
Beforehand, you were quite happy to gloat about it's use in local and you even said in Fanfest FW video that such standing exploit was only "valid way' (your words at 3.54) to capture Caldari plexes and pulled random numbers from your hat on how much ISK Caldari could farm from COSMOS missions via plexing alts.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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