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Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.05.10 08:10:00 - [421] Originally by: Digital Solaris Originally by: Stevakis Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Stevakis I don't think the stuff posted about her is true. Eve-search doesn't lie. Hell, you have screenshots of her "evil egg throwers need to get banned" crap in local. Be rational. Ankh has been on the CSM twice. She hasn't raised any issues to ban PVP or people that gank. The suicide gank issue she raised is balanced. It asks for PVP means to deal with it, all PVE means have this listed as 'con'. I am curious what rock you have lived under and what ankhhblablabla actually paid you to write the above sentence when her statements and public message is the exact opposite to rational thought and logic. So since apparently everyone has been living under a rock according to you, which attempts did she make during her time in the CSM to ban pvp?
Dierdra Vaal Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2010.05.10 08:26:00 - [422] Originally by: Stevakis Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Stevakis I don't think the stuff posted about her is true. Eve-search doesn't lie. Hell, you have screenshots of her "evil egg throwers need to get banned" crap in local. Be rational. Ankh has been on the CSM twice. She hasn't raised any issues to ban PVP or people that gank. The suicide gank issue she raised is balanced. It asks for PVP means to deal with it, all PVE means have this listed as 'con'. The suicide gank issue was only balanced because CSM1 would only support it if she changed her original, over the top proposal to something more balanced. Her original proposal would've essentially made it impossible for suicide ganking to exist. So the issue isnt balanced because of her - its balanced because of the other CSM members (in CSM1). It's fine if you want to vote for Ank - people have different ideas about the game and just because I dont agree with them does not make them inherently invalid. But do make sure you're informed properly. Director of Education :: EVE University CSM1 delegate and CSM3 chairman
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente	Posted - 2010.05.10 08:52:00 - [423] Originally by: Dierdra Vaal The suicide gank issue was only balanced because CSM1 would only support it if she changed her original, over the top proposal to something more balanced. Her original proposal would've essentially made it impossible for suicide ganking to exist. So the issue isnt balanced because of her - its balanced because of the other CSM members (in CSM1). It's fine if you want to vote for Ank - people have different ideas about the game and just because I dont agree with them does not make them inherently invalid. But do make sure you're informed properly. Bull***, Dierdra. The issue document as stands has not been changed in any shape or form. None of the other CSM contributed to it in any way, it is balanced because I* made it balanced, the rest of the CSM had no part in it. And I always wanted suicide ganking to remain a possibility, it should just have harsher consequences, which ALL CSM agreed with (and CCP agreed with too, or else CONCORD would not have had the buffs it had, eh?). And the fun thing is, that I didn't request CONCORD to be buffed, I asked for tradeable killrights, overhauling the bounty system, booting gankers from NPC corps, and more ways to prevent known criminals hiding behind CONCORD. Remember my very first campaign video? I'm saying "We need more consequences for these scumbags!", not "We need to make suicide ganking impossible!" I thought you were a honest candidate, but seeing you fling mud and sprout false accusations here and on Tweakers really changed my opinion of you.
Stevakis Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.10 09:17:00 - [424] Originally by: Dierdra Vaal Originally by: Stevakis Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Stevakis I don't think the stuff posted about her is true. Eve-search doesn't lie. Hell, you have screenshots of her "evil egg throwers need to get banned" crap in local. Be rational. Ankh has been on the CSM twice. She hasn't raised any issues to ban PVP or people that gank. The suicide gank issue she raised is balanced. It asks for PVP means to deal with it, all PVE means have this listed as 'con'. The suicide gank issue was only balanced because CSM1 would only support it if she changed her original, over the top proposal to something more balanced. Her original proposal would've essentially made it impossible for suicide ganking to exist. So the issue isnt balanced because of her - its balanced because of the other CSM members (in CSM1). It's fine if you want to vote for Ank - people have different ideas about the game and just because I dont agree with them does not make them inherently invalid. But do make sure you're informed properly. It is impossible to inform myself properly with all the disinformation in this topic. Many accusations have been made against Ankh, and when I look into them, half of them are clearly false, and the other half are dubious at best. When I look at Ankhs campaign message, her videos and her explanations, I do not see a whiny carebear, I see an intelligent, highly motivated woman that participates in these elections due to an inner drive to contribute to the EVE community. I see someone willing to represent me, and does not hesistate to voice criticism to CCP when their policies and decissions are not in the interest of the players. I see a strong personality that goes against all odds. I greatly respect Ankh for being willing to keep up with it, despite the negativity thrown at her. Ankh just said your claim about the proposal is false. Do you have anything to back up your claim?
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.05.10 10:26:00 - [425] Originally by: Stevakis When I look at Ankhs campaign message, her videos and her explanations, I do not see a whiny carebear Ha ha, listening to a politician's propaganda. - DesuSigs - Now with ThreadAssignÖ and SigSelectÖ
Stevakis Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.10 11:08:00 - [426] Originally by: Crumplecorn Ha ha, listening to a politician's propaganda. I'd believe that sooner than the rambling of other politicians flinging mud in a campaign thread that isn't their own.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.05.10 11:21:00 - [427] Originally by: Stevakis I'd believe that sooner than the rambling of other politicians flinging mud in a campaign thread that isn't their own. If you had any sense you wouldn't listen to either. - DesuSigs - Now with ThreadAssignÖ and SigSelectÖ
Digital Solaris Caldari	Posted - 2010.05.10 12:32:00 - [428] Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Digital Solaris I am curious what rock you have lived under and what ankhhblablabla actually paid you to write the above sentence when her statements and public message is the exact opposite to rational thought and logic. So since apparently everyone has been living under a rock according to you, which attempts did she make during her time in the CSM to ban pvp? And where did I say everyone in my response to Stevakis, hm? Originally by: Stevakis When I look at Ankhs campaign message, her videos and her explanations, I do not see a whiny carebear I hear with a bit of social engineering, you can make anyone* believe pretty much anything. *) As there is no patch for human stupidity.
Stevakis Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.10 12:59:00 - [429] Originally by: Dierdra Vaal Originally by: Stevakis Do you have anything to back up your claim? Well I verified the chatlogs of that meeting, and it turns out the issue itself wasnt adjusted by the CSM as I originally thought (it was over 2 years ago), so I apologise for that. However, what did happen was during the discussion with CCP when we talked about this issue, that Ank did suggest some measures that would make it very difficult or impractical (almost immediate concord response, much harder sec status hits, etc). Other CSM members did argue against such harsh measures. This was done as part of the discussion with CCP. Eventually we reached an agreement on slightly improving the sec status hit (on the short term). I guess I got the meetings mixed up in my memories :P I find that very hard to believe, because the meeting minutes mention nothing of this, and because the meeting minutes make it sound as if CCP already had made up their mind (that being that the ganking was too much in favor of the aggressor and needed fixing) before the meeting. I also find this hard to believe, because Ankh just posted details that contradict your accusations, and your other accusation have just turned out to be false. That and if you look at Ankh's first video and her posts from earlier elections, you don't see her calling for CONCORD buffs, but for player-driven means of dealing with criminal players. Sorry. I believe Ankh's story here.
Stevakis Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.10 13:01:00 - [430] Originally by: Digital Solaris I hear with a bit of social engineering, you can make anyone* believe pretty much anything. Ah, got it. Just repeat some lies and slander over and over in someone's campaign thread, and hope people believe that?

Digital Solaris Caldari	Posted - 2010.05.10 13:12:00 - [431] Originally by: Stevakis Originally by: Digital Solaris I hear with a bit of social engineering, you can make anyone* believe pretty much anything. Ah, got it. Just repeat some lies over and over in your campaign thread, and hope people believe that? Fixed it for you, and pretty much.
Droog 1 Black Rise Inbreds	Posted - 2010.05.10 14:51:00 - [432] Edited by: Droog 1 on 10/05/2010 14:51:34 Originally by: Stevakis Ah, got it. Just repeat some lies and slander over and over in someone's campaign thread, and hope people believe that? Candidate claims to be Independant but is in a large Alliance. Candidate claims to support fair play but willingly abused standings against Caldari FWers. Candidate claimed to have a UO PvP server when in fact she turned off the PvP because of the 'Sort of player PvP games attract'. Tranquility is a PvP server. Candidate has, in the past, openly supported the vandalism and defacement of other peoples property just because of their playstyle. Candidate claims to have been in CCPs employment when she was not. Candidate prefers solo play and not participating with others. Eve is an MMO. Candidate is unable to make the distinction between actions in a video game and actions in real life. Eve encourages and allows players to be 'bad'. Candidate was previously caught using Alts in other CSM elections to slander other candidates and bump her own thread. There is a very good chance that this candidate will not be taken seriously by other CSM members and, possibly, CCP staff. Lies and slander?
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente	Posted - 2010.05.10 15:10:00 - [433] Originally by: Droog 1 Lies and slander? All of it, in fact.
Lysander Kaldenn Dead Reckoning.	Posted - 2010.05.10 19:26:00 - [434] Originally by: Droog 1 Edited by: Droog 1 on 10/05/2010 14:51:34 Originally by: Stevakis There is a very good chance that this candidate will not be taken seriously by other CSM members and, possibly, CCP staff. Lies and slander? I'm pretty sure the only people who take Akhegtherdsfgdfmha seriously are persons who are just as delusional as she. She's a flash game designer for god's sake. She ought to be running for elections in Farmville.
TheLordofAllandNothing Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.10 20:36:00 - [435] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Originally by: Droog 1 Lies and slander? All of it, in fact. Well, this only proves one thing, you are completely incapable of arguing with anyone, or in thinking through other opinions and being rational about them. CCP market this game as a harsh and dark game of pvp where you are never, ever safe(even if docked thanks to your friendly neighbourhood scammers), and this person appears to be completely against pvp in general unless its "a certain type". I will continue ganking people thank you very much, as will my friends, we are literally gankers in arms, and get to plan roams the next day whilst doing rl stuff _______________________ Fix rockets in '09 =(
Enriana Shlirapen	Posted - 2010.05.10 20:47:00 - [436] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Originally by: Droog 1 Lies and slander? All of it, in fact. You're a moron, in fact.
Adingo Ate'mybaby	Posted - 2010.05.10 22:11:00 - [437] Originally by: Droog 1 Many truthful things You left out:- Candidate thinks Puzzle Pirates (a kiddies game for christsakes, I mean.. really??) is vastly superior to EVE.
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate	Posted - 2010.05.10 22:27:00 - [438] Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 10/05/2010 22:27:22 Originally by: Stevakis I find that very hard to believe, because the meeting minutes mention nothing of this, and because the meeting minutes make it sound as if CCP already had made up their mind (that being that the ganking was too much in favor of the aggressor and needed fixing) before the meeting. I also find this hard to believe, because Ankh just posted details that contradict your accusations, and your other accusation have just turned out to be false. That and if you look at Ankh's first video and her posts from earlier elections, you don't see her calling for CONCORD buffs, but for player-driven means of dealing with criminal players. Sorry. I believe Ankh's story here. The meetings took two days. The minutes are what, 20 pages or so? Condensation, and loss of side debates, are virtually inevitable. Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Originally by: Droog 1 Lies and slander? All of it, in fact. Funny, because some are literal truth, and most are at least reasonable. You are in a large alliance, talking about how you're an independent candidate. You did admit to alt-bumping your CSM1 thread. You do have CCP as an employer on your CV. You do primarily play solo, and Eve is an MMO. Whether those are meaningful, or good reasons to vote against you, is a matter of opinion. But they are simple facts, and hardly lies.
Alticius Espionicus	Posted - 2010.05.11 00:17:00 - [439] Ankhesentapemkah: the Sarah Palin of EVE.
Dianeces North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.05.11 04:40:00 - [440] Originally by: Stevakis Originally by: Digital Solaris I hear with a bit of social engineering, you can make anyone* believe pretty much anything. Ah, got it. Just repeat some lies and slander over and over in someone's campaign thread, and hope people believe that? Willful ignorance is the best kind of ~ignorance~.

Viper ShizzIe Habitual Euthanasia Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.11 04:50:00 - [441] Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Originally by: Droog 1 Lies and slander? All of it, in fact. Could you stop spamming me to vote for you in Jita please, it's getting pretty annoying.
Marlakh Minmatar Ammatar Free Corps Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.11 05:40:00 - [442] Greetings, I'm rather new to the CSM process and politics, so pardon me if I have not done full research on all the CSM candidates and their past views and achievements, or separated all the facts from the multitude of opinions. My opinion below is based on my observations, and it is entirely possible that these may be disputed by facts. Ankh has applied to join the Ammatar Free Corps out of what I believe is her own desire to live the full range of corporation and alliance social experiences, and to make herself a more complete capsuleer. In spite of her numerous achievements in past CSMs, she has impressed me with her humility and dedication to our corp, by dutifully fulfilling the tedious maintenance of our POSes for a long time. As she had been what is effectively our version of the General Secretary of the United Nations, it is a very humbling experience to see that she can carry out her tasks without ever complaining once. Throughout her stay in the AFC/CVA, Ankh has been closely observing the situation post-Dominion, with the issues concerning NRDS alliances, sovereignty mechanics, and even roleplaying styles and motivations. She has sought valuable feedback from fellow alliance members and I believe this will be taken into account in her feedback to the council and CCP. In her replies to our alliance members, I have not detected any strong pro-CVA stance, merely her desire to listen to all perspectives, and to make herself a true representative for all capsuleers. And, although I am now Ankh's CEO in-game, she is a giant in her own right. She has done more for the Eve community than most of us can ever imagine ourselves doing. For someone who has the passion and concern to improve the game that we all love (or love to hate), and has the determination and will to run for the council again, she has my vote. I hope you will give her your support. Good luck to all the candidates!
Sofia Roseburn Caldari Verdant Inquiries Asomat Drive Yards	Posted - 2010.05.11 07:46:00 - [443] Originally by: Marlakh Greetings, I'm rather new to the CSM process and politics, so pardon me if I have not done full research on all the CSM candidates and their past views and achievements, or separated all the facts from the multitude of opinions. My opinion below is based on my observations, and it is entirely possible that these may be disputed by facts. Ankh has applied to join the Ammatar Free Corps out of what I believe is her own desire to live the full range of corporation and alliance social experiences, and to make herself a more complete capsuleer. In spite of her numerous achievements in past CSMs, she has impressed me with her humility and dedication to our corp, by dutifully fulfilling the tedious maintenance of our POSes for a long time. As she had been what is effectively our version of the General Secretary of the United Nations, it is a very humbling experience to see that she can carry out her tasks without ever complaining once. Throughout her stay in the AFC/CVA, Ankh has been closely observing the situation post-Dominion, with the issues concerning NRDS alliances, sovereignty mechanics, and even roleplaying styles and motivations. She has sought valuable feedback from fellow alliance members and I believe this will be taken into account in her feedback to the council and CCP. In her replies to our alliance members, I have not detected any strong pro-CVA stance, merely her desire to listen to all perspectives, and to make herself a true representative for all capsuleers. And, although I am now Ankh's CEO in-game, she is a giant in her own right. She has done more for the Eve community than most of us can ever imagine ourselves doing. For someone who has the passion and concern to improve the game that we all love (or love to hate), and has the determination and will to run for the council again, she has my vote. I hope you will give her your support. Good luck to all the candidates! Nice propaganda piece, but there's evidence in this thread that directly contradicts a lot of what you've said. ---
Arwen Tyler	Posted - 2010.05.11 07:55:00 - [444] Originally by: Sofia Roseburn Nice propaganda piece, but there's evidence in this thread that directly contradicts a lot of what you've said. Indeed, On my main ( can't post on these forums because of lolRP restrictions ) I know a few of the members from this corp and they all say she's done F-all for corp until term limits were done away with and she realised she could stand again and wanted support.
Stevakis Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.11 08:17:00 - [445] Originally by: Sofia Roseburn Nice propaganda piece, but there's evidence in this thread that directly contradicts a lot of what you've said. Sorry but that so-called evidence has already been proven false most of the time. I rather believe a statement from her direct CEO than some professional mudflingers and trolls. Her CEO has a credible reputation.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.05.11 08:33:00 - [446] Originally by: Alticius Espionicus Ankhesentapemkah: the Sarah Palin of EVE.
Digital Solaris Caldari	Posted - 2010.05.11 09:09:00 - [447] Originally by: Stevakis Originally by: Sofia Roseburn Nice propaganda piece, but there's evidence in this thread that directly contradicts a lot of what you've said. Sorry but that so-called evidence has already been proven false most of the time. I rather believe a statement from her direct CEO than some professional mudflingers and trolls. Her CEO has a credible reputation. Truth is, Marlakh's sudden involvement and statement, with the classic examples of nepotism here and there, sounds more like a crusade that is getting more and more desperate to keep her campaign on life support after going from vegetative state to persistent vegetative state when it only begs for a painless death without any suffering. And as for you, it is apparent you would believe anything any one tells you to believe because it is so much simpler that way for you, isn't it?
Stevakis Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.11 09:33:00 - [448] Originally by: Digital Solaris Truth is, Marlakh's sudden involvement and statement, with the classic examples of nepotism here and there, sounds more like a crusade that is getting more and more desperate to keep her campaign on life support after going from vegetative state to persistent vegetative state when it only begs for a painless death without any suffering. And as for you, it is apparent you would believe anything any one tells you to believe because it is so much simpler that way for you, isn't it? If I look at the past times she and the other take care people ran for CSM, we saw the same smear on the campaign thread. All these people won the elections regardless. When on the CSM, Ankh, Erik and Z0D performed well, and time and again the whines and accusations from the griefing/ganking/0.0 crowd were proven false.
Niraia Gallente Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.05.11 09:51:00 - [449] Originally by: Alticius Espionicus Ankhesentapemkah: the Sarah Palin of EVE.
Face Palmer Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.05.11 09:56:00 - [450] Originally by: Alticius Espionicus Sarah Palin: the Ankhesentapemkah of RL.



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